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Akaikami posted:Did you even read my post? I got punched in the face riding my BIKE down a MAIN ROAD for no reason other than me being white/looking like an art student. Just for reference, what road were you going down? What intersection? What time was it? I've seen some crazy poo poo in Savannah while I was there (I've since graduated and moved) but I'm going to have to agree with everyone else that you were probably somewhere stupid. Yes it's in the south. Yes it's voluntarily segregated as hell. You're going to get caught up in the middle of it. Don't rock the boat, get your education, then get out. It doesn't sound like you even got into your major, so if you're judging the faculty of the liberal arts and foundations departments, you haven't seen anything. At least in my major, I've had three amazing professors that I'm close enough with to have them help me find work and keep in touch with regularly as colleagues.
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Does anyone at top-level ad agencies (more Saatchi/TBWA/WK than small-town) come from a graphic design background? Namely, art directors. On my previous course at college (I'm from England, BTEC ND Graphic Design) we did a unit of advertising which was great, but I'm now doing a graphic design degree which specifically doesn't deal with advertising. I'm looking at all this loving awesome advertising work on Behance and in D&AD books and I'm gutted I didn't decide to do an ad design degree. By all accounts I'm on an awesome graphic design course, I love where I am and am glad I didn't go to Salford or Manchester Met because really, gently caress Manchester; I have no inclination to change where I am, at all. At the same time, the further I get into this course the more I realise how different graphic design and advertising are, and I'm worried about getting stuck into the graphic design mode of operation rather than approaching problems like an ad man would. I'm not really sure where to go from here - should I try and go to Fabrica or Miami Ad School postgrad, or do you get junior art directors with next-to-no ad experience (other than D&AD competitions and such)
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My girlfriend (  ) is a B.A./M.A. Interior Architect (with an interest in graphic design) from RISD. We're in Boston now, and she's been spinning her wheels trying to find anything that's up her alley. Do any Boston-area design/architecture goons know of any leads?
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Euthyphro posted:My girlfriend ( I'm Boston-based and all my designer/architecture friends have been laid off within the past 2 months. I'm waiting for the axe to drop any day, myself. Sorry, dude.
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Zurich posted:Does anyone at top-level ad agencies (more Saatchi/TBWA/WK than small-town) come from a graphic design background? Namely, art directors. On my previous course at college (I'm from England, BTEC ND Graphic Design) we did a unit of advertising which was great, but I'm now doing a graphic design degree which specifically doesn't deal with advertising. I don't know about Art Directors, but couldn't you be a Designer in an ad agency with your graphics background? My agency (it's definitely no W+K, mind) has heaps of designers doing web stuff, emails and print. Or do you definitely want to do concepting?
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marshmallard posted:I don't know about Art Directors, but couldn't you be a Designer in an ad agency with your graphics background? My agency (it's definitely no W+K, mind) has heaps of designers doing web stuff, emails and print. Or do you definitely want to do concepting?
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Zurich posted:I'd like to do the conceptual stuff. I like pretty things but witty things are better. OK, well I see absolutely no reason why you can't. Creatives come from all over the place. Granted, the majority come from Bucks Uni and places like that these days, but that doesn't mean you can't have a different background. I'm a Copywriter and I didn't go to Bucks. You don't need qualifications, you just need to be good. Your graphics skills will definitely help in producing a good portfolio ("book") to show at interview. You just need to buddy up with a copywriter and get a book together. You could maybe start with the D&AD Workshops: http://dandad.co.uk/education/workshops.html - it's six weeks of getting a brief, having a week to work on it and then presenting your work to the agency that set the brief for feedback. It's knackering but it's pretty useful.
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Thanks for the advice  I guess it's time to stop talking and start working on some D&AD and YCN briefs. For what it's worth, my friend is at Bucks (on BA Creative Advertising - my second choice course) and hates it, so I'm pretty glad I'm not there all things considered. e: forgot to say, did you do a D&AD workshop? I completely forgot to apply this year, might go for the summer one, but might wait till next year (2nd year) when I'd get more out of it. Zurich fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Dec 24, 2008 |
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Zurich posted:Thanks for the advice Yeah, I did the integrated one 'cause I work in an integrated agency. And also because that one goes to some agencies I've actually heard of (Iris, Kitcatt Nohr etc) whereas the above-the-line one seemed to go to random places I've never ever heard of (England (apparently an agency), jwtcheethambell (not just JWT) etc). It's a bit of a myth that you go round BBH and Saatchis on the ATL one. What year is your friend in? I know some folks at Bucks.
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marshmallard posted:Yeah, I did the integrated one 'cause I work in an integrated agency. And also because that one goes to some agencies I've actually heard of (Iris, Kitcatt Nohr etc) whereas the above-the-line one seemed to go to random places I've never ever heard of (England (apparently an agency), jwtcheethambell (not just JWT) etc). It's a bit of a myth that you go round BBH and Saatchis on the ATL one. I'm sure I saw a summer workshop on the Saatchi & Saatchi website a year or two ago, can't find it now. That would be the dream though...
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Jabe posted:why does everyone ignore me on these forums ? There's not enough work on there. Keep building it up. The only way you'll know if it's good enough for entry level jobs is to submit it with your resume and cover letter and see if you get a job or a reply.
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I spent 2 days reading through every reply here, and didn't find anything to help me, or the other photographers looking for some answers. So, I'll just ask my questions, and hope someone will help me.  I currently am a sophomore at Ohio State as a Photography and Journalism major. My biggest problem is I don't really know, outside of internships, how to get my foot in the door. In my photography classes, my instructors keep saying to get into shows and find ways to get my name out there. In my journalism classes, they don't have much in the way of how to get a photojournalism job, because they don't really teach that. At this point, I don't really care if my photography job is a journalism job or not - I'm basically keeping that part on because I figure it'll just open up another option when I go to get a job later. Anyway, my point is, how do I go about making a way for myself into photography? Where do I find shows, and other ways to gain some recognition in the photography world? And where should I be looking, outside of newspapers, to find some photography jobs in the journalism track?
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Zurich posted:He's a first year. Does your agency have any connections with Ravensbourne out of interest? No... I've never even heard of Ravensbourne but maybe the creative PA would have. She deals with work experience and placements and stuff. S&S do a summer scheme every year, yep... it's more of a grad scheme/traineeship thing, though, and geared towards account management. Also, it's fiendishly difficult to get on - the year before last they wrote on a piece of paper "Turn this piece of paper into a job". And that was your application. Jeez.
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I've been wanting an opinion on a decision I've been trying to make, so I'd appreciate any insight: I already have a BA (in Psychology), but my main passion is art, mainly animation/illustration/writing. I'd like to go back to school to study it, since I have no experience, and think I need a LOT more training (I've taken one animation class so far). I'd either like to get an MFA or another BA (granted I'd much rather the MFA). I was wondering if this is really necessary, or if I should just take a few classes and just apply to jobs with a strong portfolio when I feel ready. My main issues are: 1)money 2)portfolio 3)recommendations I don't really have any of these things. Well, I may have a portfolio, but not a very big or good one. poo poo, I don't even know what I should put in it. I want to go back to school, but I don't want to feel pressured to go back for an MFA, if I don't need to in order to have job opportunities. So should I just take some classes, apply for a degree program, or both (take the classes, then apply for the MFA later)? Also, are there any good programs out there for people like me who really wanna do art but don't have a strong background? Also, I applied for a production assistant position at an animation company, but got turned down due to "lack of experience". Are there any other kinds of positions I could apply to so I can get my foot in the door?
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KittenofDoom posted:You're not being too harsh at all, or at least not any more than is fair. I absolutely understand I have a buttload of work ahead of me to get to where I'm supposed to be, and hopefully that'll fill out within the next few months. Harshness is completely deserved at this point. I'm certainly no expert at all and I'm sorry to sound harsh, but I think your site looks pretty amateurish; just the fact that a new tab pops up to show the small sketchy ninja. Why not having the picture enlarged in the same page (like the conceptart.org galleries)? It looks weak both in illustration and in graphic design; I can't understand what the pique box is for and the design of the pique card is almost the same. Don't intend to drag you down, just trying to help with my two cents.
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Chocolate Cocaine posted:Anyway, my point is, how do I go about making a way for myself into photography? Where do I find shows, and other ways to gain some recognition in the photography world? And where should I be looking, outside of newspapers, to find some photography jobs in the journalism track? Well, I don't know much about journalism/newspapers but you basically just asked the million dollar question. Being a professional is 10% photographic ability and 90% marketing yourself and finding the right clients to contact. Not that being good isn't important, but I know plenty of lovely photographers who are just good business people. I do commercial and editorial work and I basically spend most days doing nothing but making phone calls, mailing postcards, putting together promos, emailing, researching new clients, entering sourcebooks/annuals, etc. It's all about constantly doing anything to promote yourself and constantly making new contacts and then figuring out a way to keep in touch with those people. Right now I (and probably most other pros) are gearing up for a big marketing push for the beginning of 2009 so I have been holed up in my apartment updating my records and putting things together for that. I have had work in a good number of exhibitions and besides selling a print occasionally I have never really gotten much out of it. I think that's only worth it if you intend to be a professional fine artist, in which case an MFA is pretty much required and building up a long laundry list of exhibitions in increasingly larger/more prestigious galleries is how you build your reputation. The only time I submit to exhibitions now is if the juror is someone that I would want to get my work in front of anyways. I see it as the same as sending a portfolio over to them instead of "I want to be in show/gallery X" (ie. a few months back I had a couple of images in a show that was juried by the curator of the Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery - I ended up getting 'best in show' and now regularly keep in touch with her just like I do the rest of my professional contacts - that is someone I never would have contacted on my own, you never know who will pass your name along or help you out down the line). If you really want to be in exhibitions get a subscription to Art Deadline. The whole journalism world is hurting really bad right now, most papers are laying photographers (and everyone else) off. I don't really know what to tell you about that.
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So I really want to get into editing. I did some basic copy editing/proofreading stuff in college, and I liked it, and I think I could make a career out of this but I truthfully have no idea where to start. I live in a very non-publishing city, Colorado Springs, and it's not like there's a high demand for editing assistants. Is web-editing a good alternative? Secondly, whenever I look at an editorial assistant job, it lists a ton of editing software that I should be proficient in, and honestly, I've never heard of any of this stuff. Does anyone know what a good way to go about getting into something like this would be, and how much of this stuff I really need to know if I'm just starting out?
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Help me figure out how to get into art college Basically, I am feeling swamped. My first deadline for a portfolio is February 4th. I'm basically freaking the hell out. Planning on applying to only two colleges, because I don't want to go / live anywhere else. If I fail miserably, and can't get into either Emily Carr University of Art & Design, or Pacific Northwest College of Art, I really don't know what the hell I will do with my life. Background: I am going to a high school without art education (The School of Science and Technology). Self-taught, except for taking Drawing I and II at Portland Community College. I live in Oregon, but I want to live in the greater Vancouver area (the good Vancouver, not loving Washington). PNCA being my second choice in schools, and my "fall back" school. I'm sitting on something like a 3.2 GPA, I never completed Algebra II, or Spanish II, so I am essentially hosed out of state schools (wouldn't go there anyways). I excel in everything EXCEPT for Math, as my ACT scores showed. I've taken the only AP class I could, which was AP English (lit and comp), and passed the test, and all that jazz. Money's not an issue, don't want to get into that. And, my only work experience would be my job doing web development / management / etc. as an intern at OHSU: OGI. Why the hell I am so convicted about going to college for art: Because I am, damnit. My entire life it has been my silent passion, and something that kept me going through the worst times. I have a desire to end up working with the internet. Somewhere that could intertwine what I love most, art, and the internet. So graphic design, or whatever these schools call it, I am planning in majoring in. When I asked myself what was more important, money or passion, I decided that I'd rather go to college for something I LOVE rather than something that would make my life financially easier. What I desperately need help figuring out: I don't have any mentors, I only have you, the SA community, and whatever else I can find on the internet (nothing). I really need someone I can talk to, and just get all these boisterous and confounding questions out and answered. I'm extremely organized, and I have spent nearly three years trying to make this work. And now's the loving time to take action, and I am petrified.
General advice on getting into college much appreciated. Pm's, replying here, or gtalk/email (lacey[dot]kasten[at]gmail) are the best ways to contact me. I'd show my work, and all my "potential portfolio pieces" to someone privately. The last thing I need right now is to get punched in the face by critique, as I am about to explode as is. Thank you. 
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Okay, so I'm not a visual artist myself, but I went to a college with a major art school and supported a lot of friends during undergrad and graduate application time. They all freaked out, they all got in. I know you're not able to fully believe this, but you will be fine. I think a lot of kids think colleges want them to show up with professional portfolios. If that were the case, what would be the point of art school? They want to see your potential and your work ethic. Actual artists will be along shortly to help you with putting together your portfolio. For now: deep breaths. If you knew some of the naifs I went to school with you wouldn't be freaking out half so much. One of my friends actually misspelled our school's name on his application essay, and he got in.
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Liselle posted:Planning on applying to only two colleges, because I don't want to go / live anywhere else. If I fail miserably, and can't get into either Emily Carr University of Art & Design, or Pacific Northwest College of Art, I really don't know what the hell I will do with my life. quote:Why the hell I am so convicted about going to college for art: quote:[*]How do I put together my portfolio? However, this could be a place where you have a chance to show off your creativity. One of the coolest portfolios I saw was from a tattoo artist who mounted pictures of his pieces on corrugated cardboard that was bound together by some metal pieces and two bolts. Don't feel you have to use the standard black pages approach, but getting creative here can be frustrating and you might not have enough time to get it all together how you want it.
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First off, Slashie, you are awesome. And I feel much better / less crazy. More questions, commence!
If only I was 18. I have been 17 for less than 6 months. On the ACT I received something like a 92 percentile in reading, 90's in writing, and literally 50's in math. 70's in science for a really stupid reason (I had to pee, last test, oh my god it was awful). I am not quite sure that's something to be proud about, because my overall score was a bloody 21 on the stupid ACT scale. I have only taken 1/4th of Algebra II (twice, since I dropped out twice). So I bombbbbbb once the test gets into anything with functions, or I dunno, math stuff. To Slapdick: Yes, I was actually planning on applying to a total of 5 schools. University of Washington, Western Washington University, Cornish College of the Arts, PNCA, and ECUAD. The thing is that I have not completed Algebra II, or a 2nd year language (mine would have been Spanish, because that was all that was offered at my school). That disqualifies me from admissions at WWU, UW, and I just didn't really.. want to go to Cornish. I love Oregon, but I have a bit of wanderlust, and I desperately do not want to go to PSU, OSU, UO, or any other state college. That's kind of why I am down to PNCA and ECUAD. I come from a school with a graduating class of 36, me being one of them. That should explain my aversion to big mainstream schools. Both PNCA and ECUAD are right in the range of where I'd like to be. That being said, oh my, you have something along the lines of my dream job. I've always fantasized about working myself into the game industry. Not in the sense of "Oh my god I must create an amazing RPG with ponies and fairies!" or something, but more doing something like designing UI's, or working with advertising. Mmm, your job sounds so dreamy 
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On your math issues: Is getting tutoring and retaking that class or the ACT a possibility? I realize how incredibly Not a Good Time that sounds, but I hate to see you put out of the running for state schools over something like that. If you can't/don't want to take it at your school again, most community colleges have high-school math for their students who need catching up. Slashie fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Jan 4, 2009 |
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Akaikami posted:Don't go to SCAD. I got punched in the eye riding my bike back to the dorms my first week there. And a few weeks later 4 black kids decided to steal a car, run a redlight, and totally gently caress my car up. It's a great school, but for the pricetag and the neighborhood you have to put up with it's not worth it. Unless you get some godly amount of scholarship money I would not recommend it. Then you were asking for it. I went to SCAD for 4 years and only got into fights that I chose to get into. It's a cheap, fun, wonderful, historic, interesting place to spend your college years. Don't live in the dorms.
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Liselle posted:First off, Slashie, you are awesome. And I feel much better / less crazy.
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Ugh, I am having the hardest time finding a good grad school. At this point I'm just tracking down all of my favorite artists and checking what schools they went to, but I have a feeling my ideal school is somewhere I'll never think to look.  I wish there were a fine art version of conceptart.org forums only with working/represented painters discussing everything instead of supremely talented 3D modelers.
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Hwangin Tough posted:https://www.m3ta.co.uk Hmm, and as for being taken seriously, it's hard for me to say. The designs themselves are basically solid and not that bad, but I've also seen plenty of more impressive web design. For me, front-end web development implies more than just the graphics and look, and in which case, an employer might like to know the process behind these sites, so perhaps describe the systems you've implemented and how the sites work with a bit more detail. Well, even though I'm not an actual employer or even a web developer (though I've done some freelance web design projects), I hope that helps. And good luck! Authentic You fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Jan 6, 2009 |
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Authentic You posted:The reason I did not put my cv and contact info on there is because only prospective employers would have that url as it is on my resume. I am not trying to get work from random people searching for a freelance web developer, but intend to apply for permenant front end web dev roles only. I can see your point though and maybe I will have to add my resume and contact info to the page. Your comment about describing the development in more detail is a good one and something I stupidly hadn't considered because there is so much more I can describe in that regard. Thanks for your comments and I look forward to further comments from other people.
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You're certainly welcome. And some more thoughts about having your contact info/resume on your site, even if it's redundant because you've already given the prospective employer the resume. When you have a portfolio with absolutely no reference to your person (even the page title is just 'Portfolio'), it's really easy for anyone looking at it to dissociate. It becomes just some applicant's online portfolio. But if you restate your name, contact info, and have your resume available, then the potential employer reacts more along the lines of, 'So this is Hwanging Tough's portfolio!' The association will be stronger and therefore more memorable. Right now the lack of contact info and even your name makes it really impersonal. Another thing I thought of is, when you're in the process of looking for a job position and are on alert at all times, what's easier to have on you at all times, a business card or a stack of letter-sized resumes? When you're talking to industry people outside of a formal interview situation, then it's always nice to give them a business card. You link your site on it, and they they can see (more of) your work, and your resume. And once again, the association is there. But yeah, having your info on your portfolio doesn't mean for a second you're just soliciting yourself as a freelancer to random people who see it on the internet. Even in freelance you need to refer people to your site, work, and resume first. So really, offering easy access to your resume and reference to YOU, from multiple mediums (printed copy, available online, etc), makes you more memorable and accessible, which may prove helpful in landing you a job.
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It's really important that you have everything on your portfolio. I get a lot of hits to my website from google searches of people looking for resumes. I wouldn't worry about it sending the wrong message because most designers have online portfolios whether or not they're working.KittenofDoom posted:I'm not sure why, but sometimes when I load your page the first tab for "Ehouse" doesn't pop open all the way. It fixes itself when I click back from another tab, but it shows up weird the first time.
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KittenofDoom posted:I'm not sure why, but sometimes when I load your page the first tab for "Ehouse" doesn't pop open all the way. It fixes itself when I click back from another tab, but it shows up weird the first time. Hmm, that's weird it doesn't happen for me in firefox or ie 6 or 7. Hmm must fix that. I will add my resume as it seems to be the "done thing". I welcome more comments on my original post. Thanks.
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Liselle posted:Why the hell I am so convicted about going to college for art: Having passion and guts to do what it is you want to do with your life is one thing, actually having a career in that field is another. When it comes to the real world, people aren't going to be interested in arbitrary passion, it'll be a good way to connect with your employee, but more importantly they'll want to know how good of a worker you are, what marketable skills you have, how well you take to direction, that you're able to do the work without having to be monitored all day, that you can work under pressure, that you can meet deadlines, if you can do that with passion then that's what's important, it's business. It's not always going to be something you enjoy either, especially starting out, where you'll be doing a lot of low end jobs to get to a place where you want to be, and it's not always going to be something you like the look of, or can put in your portfolio, that'll be your passion getting you through that. If you want to keep that passion going you may want to consider creating projects in your spare time to stay creative and do something you actually like, and depending on the amount of work you're doing, that time may be limited, but it's that creative work that can help you open doors down the road. You may also consider doing pro bono work where you have full creative rights. But unless you plan on living somewhere like New York or LA or Europe where you can get top end jobs from rich edgy clients who aren't afraid of risk, creative work isn't going to pay the bills. This is not to crush your dreams, but to say that it's very important you stay realistic and keep a clear head as school can be a real vacuum with no relevance to reality. It's important to consider the career you'll be having once out of school, and what it'll be like on a day to day basis. I went to a university for a bfa in visual communication design for 4 years full of passion only to find out I really hate working in design and it's not what I wanted to do with my life. The program was excellent and highly competitive with only 19 people in my major. While I enjoyed going to school and learning about design, the real world was nothing that I'd hoped it to be. Even working with top end design firms left me sorely disappointed. Needless to say I've learned from my mistakes and don't think it was all for nothing, but I wish I'd had a better idea of what I was getting into and whether it was a good fit for me. Looking back on it, it was definitely something I kinda fell into. Have you done any internships up to this point, or even gone to visit a design firm? Are you prepared to work 12 hours or more a day for multiple days when it comes to crunchtime at a job? Are you a perfectionist when it comes to finding all the mistakes in your work? How available are the jobs in the field you want to be in, and are you willing do something similar until you can find that job? It's important to be prepared for these scenarios and not let your passion get in the way of rational thinking. quote:What I desperately need help figuring out: Are there no specifications for what's being looked for in these portfolios on each school's website? Usually a school is very specific about what they're looking for and how they want it presented. Also if you're interested in Emily Carr you may want to look at Capilano University, I find their output of design work to be far superior for a 2 year program and have heard nothing but good things about the teacher student interaction. What's the student to teacher ratio for these programs? What's the competition like? Does the school you're interested in have any career planning services, are they willing to help you find a job and prepare you for the real world? quote:
Whynot, I don't know, call and ask? Have you gone to these respective campuses for a visit? Have you considered scheduling a visit for a tour and questions? Have you made any communication with the people in charge of the graphic design departments? quote:General advice on getting into college much appreciated. Call and talk to them. Make a list of questions and the things you need to do and tackle the list. Make sure this is really the area you need to go into to get to where you want to be and ask a lot of questions. Talk to professionals who are already where you want to be. I think a lot of that panic you're feeling is due to not knowing what to do and in order to find out what that is, you need to do some thorough research on these schools instead of asking people on here for anecdotal advice that may not necessarily be relevant to what you need. Take charge of what it is you want to do.
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Hwangin Tough posted:I really love the design/xhtml/css side of web development so I am trying to get a more focused role which will allow me to become better at these things. Design and xhtml/css are wholly separate in any job you actually want. If you don't go all in for one or the other you're only going to get jobs like you're current one where they are too cheap or small to pay for two people. quote:I know not all of my stuff validates at w3c and I know my graphic design is not amazing. Really what I need is some feedback on whether I should leave websites out that do not validate. One of my sites for example - I know for a fact it does not work in ie6... should I omit it from my portfolio for this reason? For the most part no one who matters (cuts your paycheck) will care about validation. If you're interviewing with an actual developer you might mention why it doesn't validate and you know why but by and large they won't care either. Web standards are nice and all but 90% of it is Slashdot style nitpicky bullshit no one but other nerds will care about. You only ever have to worry about disability compliance (called 508 in the US) if you're working for the government or building some massive web app (think Amazon). quote:Do I have any possiblity of being taken seriously if I apply for a front end web developer role or am I wasting my time? This is kind of my dream job and although I am mostly happy with my current job, the "jack of all trades" aspect of it does cause me stress at times and I really feel I would thrive as a front end web developer given the chance. Sure, but sorry to sound like a big dick but I can't imagine how it would be anyone's dream job. Let me reiterate design and production are two wholly separate disciplines at anywhere you really would want to work. As such that means you have to decide on one or the other. Development will be way, way easier to get into/move forward in, but general front-end production stuff is not in any way creative. You get a bunch of Photoshop comps and put a page together, that's about it.
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Anyone have any advice on getting into creative advertising? I have an associates in Graphic Design and a bachelors in Advertising and I'm currently a Graphic Artist at a local newspaper. I would really like to move into a creative role at an agency as I enjoy coming up with ad/campaign concepts, copy writing, and the production of ads. During my job search after graduation it seemed like all I came across was posting for graphic designers or sales/media positions at agencies. I had a couple interviews for graphic designer positions but always got the feeling that I wasn't a good enough designer for what they wanted. (I'll be the first to admit my portfolio is a bit light/weak, don't have a lot of outstanding projects to put in) Should I keep trying for design positions at agencies? Is there some other 'generic creative services' position that places have that I should look at instead? When fleshing out my portfolio is it ok to include all these lovely little newspaper ads I've been churning out for the past couple months? Any advice would be much appreciated.
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