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Here's the last two strips: V: Go away, Imp. Imp: No. Wanna be evil? V: No. Why did that take 24 panels? V's storyline immediately drags the pacing down to a glacial crawl every time it gets brought up and Burlew keeps on seeming to think that this plot is just awesomesauce and he should linger on it whenever possible. This isn't even writing for the trade; tell me that if you buy this collection, you're not going to say "Oh gently caress, V pages" and start immediately flipping ahead to something good.
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Right. I kind of like the whole V subplot, but it is just sitting there and not doing anything ever since V cast Invisibility.
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Jan 25, 2009 20:37
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I guess I like how he sets up these subplots and ends them quickly. Well, sort of quickly. Erfworld > OOTS there I said it
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Jan 25, 2009 20:38
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If that wasn't supposed to be a sucker punch to all the people theorizing lichdome or whatever then I don't know what is. It was a very long and drawn out sucker punch sure but this is sort of his thing with fan predictions.
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Jan 25, 2009 21:47
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Say what you want about Erfworld, the man sets up a valid point: 4chan IS a giant nuclear explosion of poo poo.
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Jan 26, 2009 01:38
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I like the V subplot.
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Jan 26, 2009 05:03
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Cuchulain posted:I like the V subplot. We argue about every subplot and it's value for some reason. Most people tend to like them although a lot bitch about how long it takes for the issues to come out or how many strips it takes or both because if you can't bitch about free poo poo, what can you bitch about?
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Jan 26, 2009 06:21
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Cuchulain posted:I like the V subplot. I like the subplot. I don't like how glacially it moves along.
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Jan 26, 2009 13:41
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Really, if V had taken him up on the offer, the last two strips would be moving the subplot along at a good clip. Instead, the way things turned out, they did the exact oposite. I think Burlew is going beyond messing with reader expectation. I think he is reading this thread laughing his rear end off at us. "Fifteen posts about how pissed off they are? Awesome!"
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Jan 27, 2009 04:42
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Maybe we should talk about Erfworld then. That'll show him!
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Jan 27, 2009 05:12
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Maldraedior posted:Maybe we should talk about Erfworld then. That'll show him! Have you noticed how the author takes a traditional fantasy theme, and then adds pop culture and/or internet references? Wow-ee! Gets me every time~!
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Jan 27, 2009 05:44
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PFlats posted:Have you noticed how the author takes a traditional fantasy theme, and then adds pop culture and/or internet references? I actually find myself occasionally getting sucked into Erfworld. I'll see there's a new one, and become moderately interested again, if only because Parson is interesting, if not sympathetic. I'll go back, and read 10 issues of him trying out tactics, working around his boss, wondering if about the consequences of dying in this crazy world that might be his subconcious, and I start reading. Then they make an atomic poop joke with a sound effect of "4chan!", and I shake my head at the retarded pandering to the lowest common denominator, and ignore it again. Nothing really more really needs to be said about the comic. It's like that acquaintance you have that tries really hard, almost too hard. You hang out with him, and just figure he's really lonely, and that those rumours are overstated. And then you hear he's dating a girl who is ten years younger than he is who has... tourette's or something. And you regret it all.
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Jan 27, 2009 06:15
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New Strip! Click here for the full 708x938 image. Plot! So, V just said Disintegrate 4 times, right? (I doubt those are the 4 words, but I suspect that that moment is coming up quick)
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Jan 27, 2009 10:01
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E:^^^^^^drat YOU Um...poo poo. Is this the dragon I think it is???
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Jan 27, 2009 10:03
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LuchadoresDelNixon posted:E:^^^^^^drat YOU Well, drat you too! I just spent ten minutes hunting that bit out! It could be. Eyes are a different colour and that dragon got left as a pile of dust, but it makes sense.
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Jan 27, 2009 10:09
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LuchadoresDelNixon posted:E:^^^^^^drat YOU I'm thinking it might be "Mommy". Or "Daddy". I failed Dragonology 101, and they never let you lift their tail to check.
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Jan 27, 2009 14:44
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That dragon was only a Young Adult. I agree, it's mommy or daddy out for some revenge.
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Jan 27, 2009 16:46
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I will KILL a human being if the next strip focuses on Elan's lovely Adventures of Boring poo poo.
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Jan 27, 2009 17:25
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We've been getting good, frequent updates lately and I would feel bad about suddenly kvetching over an interlude.
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Jan 27, 2009 19:26
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That "fleeting dominance in a mortal coil" sounds interesting. There are good elven liches, aren't there?
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Jan 27, 2009 20:27
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I seem to remember there being good liches in general, but that they were clerics. This was back in second edition, though.
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seaborgium posted:That "fleeting dominance in a mortal coil" sounds interesting. There are good elven liches, aren't there? Yeah, baelnorns or whatever. 'Course half of them end up turning evil/insane, but hey, such are the consequences of becoming a mockery of life for whom mere mortal concerns are increasingly difficult to care about compared to the mystical weave that sustains their super-awesome goody-goody immortality.
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FR at least has Baelnorn, the good elven liches. Obberon has the Undying, again with elves, which are like undead but powered by positive energy. I guess this could be an angry parent but I thought dragons didn't really give much of a poo poo about their young past a point.
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Jan 27, 2009 22:21
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Just out of curiosity, say Xykon gets killed and the phylactery smashed. What happens to him? Wouldn't he still be an immensely powerful spirit in the chaotic evil afterlife, or whatever? Couldn't he still come back?
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Jan 27, 2009 23:28
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Wolfsheim posted:Just out of curiosity, say Xykon gets killed and the phylactery smashed. What happens to him? Wouldn't he still be an immensely powerful spirit in the chaotic evil afterlife, or whatever? Couldn't he still come back? The worst thing about this post is that it made me think "Oh yeah, Xykon. Whatever happened to him anyway?"
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Jan 27, 2009 23:51
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Does anyone else feel that the art style is now getting in the way of the story? Stick figures are fine for light-hearted jokes about the game mechanics and archetypes, but a lot of the  we've been getting lately could have been conveyed much more concisely with a well-drawn facial expression or two.
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NutShellBill posted:Then they make an atomic poop joke with a sound effect of "4chan!", and I shake my head at the retarded pandering to the lowest common denominator, and ignore it again.
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Jan 28, 2009 05:56
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Mylan 2 posted:Obberon has the Undying, again with elves, which are like undead but powered by positive energy.  Eberron. The positive-energy version of undeath is being 'deathless', which I guess sounds nicer. The guys in charge are called the Undying Council, whom a lot of elves that have not naturalized to Khorvaire (i.e. who aren't civilized) worship as living deities (and receive spells from, since they're basically nearly godlike in power when the council is taken as a whole). Basically if poo poo starts to really go down in a biblical scale in Eberron, they are probably the only thing of any divine scale that might answer the call for the forces of capital G good, short of the Silver Flame worshiped in Thrane (which is the only other actual tangible divine force in Eberron, as a living spiritual monument made of like the lifeforce of all of Eberron's couatl after they sacrificed themselves for something or other). I think every other entity or group that receives worship in Eberron is either silent, or doesn't actually exist. Not that it seems to interfere with receiving clerical spells, even if you're a complete and total bastard who uses their power directly in opposition of everything your God stands for. Wow, I am way off topic. In any event, I don't think V is anywhere near becoming a Deathless. Maybe a lawful neutral lich?
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Jan 28, 2009 07:11
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Is there any chance that this dragon can be the one disintegrated by V ages ago?
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welp, Click here for the full 743x933 image. Updates sure are comin' along fast these days.
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Jan 28, 2009 12:06
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So still pushing for V to become a Liche.
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Commissar posted:So still pushing for V to become a Liche. I hope so. If this side story ends up amounting to "...Meanwhile, V gets killed by a dragon in the middle of nowhere," I'm going to be nonplussed.
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I don't think I've ever heard of an elven lich as normally that's more of a human thing (with the short life span and all.) That said I'm very very happy about the quick updates 
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Deathless are stupid ("undead, except not because we're good!") and I'd rather see V become a lich.
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Amateur Sketch posted:I hope so. If this side story ends up amounting to "...Meanwhile, V gets killed by a dragon in the middle of nowhere," I'm going to be nonplussed. Oh, please. That'd be dumb storytelling anywhere, and Burlew is not a dumb storyteller.
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Jan 28, 2009 15:21
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That dragon has some badass lines there.
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LuchadoresDelNixon posted:That dragon has some badass lines there. Is it too late to get the dragon in the party? Maybe impersonating V? I'd buy that.
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NutShellBill posted:Is it too late to get the dragon in the party? Maybe impersonating V? I'd buy that. Elan: V, you look different... did you... gain weight?
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I would say that the dragon is going to put V on the ropes bad enough that he will have to deal with the Imp, but I'm at a loss as to what the Imp could actually do to help - teleport them away I guess?
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Commissar posted:Elan: V, you look different... did you... gain weight? I meant more with magic, but your way has merit as well.
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