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Professor Funk posted:Yeah, but my point still stands, because it just so happens that Friday the 13th Part 4 was neither a good movie nor a scary one. What? It's widely accepted that Part 4 is the best entry in the series.
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InfiniteZero posted:I thought it was OK, if not a bit disappointing. I had two main problems with the film: Wait, what? Okay, this is getting ridiculous, any handheld cam is now known as "shaky cam?" This movie didn't really use any quick cuts (Batman Begins) or purposely shaky shots (Bourne). The difference between this and the old ones was that it was shot more heavily in shadow, and the kills were "faster" (the older ones had lots of shots of Jason sloooooowwwwlly harpooning and the like). quote:More importantly, I was disappointed by the whole Texas Chainsaw Massacre elements thrown into the film, with the old houses filled with weird stuff (again, yeah -- I know that Jason builds a weirdo shrine in Part II, but it didn't look like a reused TCM set), Jason trapping somebody in the basement and tying her to a chain, and even the Leatherface head tilts when he confronts her. I agree with the set looking like TCM which I complained about. However, that's the Michael Meyers head tilt, which was stolen by Kane Hodder for Jason in 7. So you've got it all out of order. quote:I would have hoped that Nispel would have gotten it out of his system by now. Don't misunderstand me, I love the original TCM (and TCM2 -- and even Nispel's remake), but that doesn't mean that I want Jason Voorhees and Michael Myers to act like Leatherface and I don't go into every horror film hoping for a hideout that looks like Leatherface's hideout and weirdo hillbillies to be running around. I agree in execution. But to be fair, when you combine parts 1-4 of Friday the 13th, you -do- get a lot of those elements including hillbillies (you need Crazy Ralph, after all), shrines, etc. However, I didn't like them looking so much like TCM stuff, I agree.
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Feb 17, 2009 17:40
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The Monocle posted:I didn't see if someone already mentioned it, but I loved the Blue Velvet reference. I don't think anyone else in my theater caught it. I got it. First thing I thought was "DENNIS HOPPER!"
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Feb 17, 2009 17:41
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The Monocle posted:What? It's widely accepted that Part 4 is the best entry in the series. I'm no Friday the 13th nut or anything, but Jesus Christ are you serious? I really had no idea that this was true. I hated it. 
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Feb 17, 2009 17:44
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edit: ^^^ yeah, most people like 4 the best out of human killers, and 6 out of zombie/supernatural ones. Professor Funk posted:Yeah, but my point still stands, because it just so happens that Friday the 13th Part 4 was neither a good movie nor a scary one. You were comparing the movie to classic Jason, but 4 is normally known as THE classic (scary) Jason movie (6 is the classic silly one). I don't get it.
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Feb 17, 2009 17:48
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Darko posted:edit: ^^^ yeah, most people like 4 the best out of human killers, and 6 out of zombie/supernatural ones. Well I guess I'll change my argument a bit. I'd say that the house in Friday the 13th 2009 is a far cry from the little house in Friday the 13th Part 4. I guess I'd say that the mansion in 2009 was a too lavish for the environment that the filmmakers were trying to create.
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Feb 17, 2009 17:56
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Darko posted:However, that's the Michael Meyers head tilt, which was stolen by Kane Hodder for Jason in 7. So you've got it all out of order. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the "Mommy?" head-tilt has been a part of Jason's character since the second movie. Not saying it wasn't lifted from Halloween, but it's definitely a recurring character trait and I was glad to see that it survived the reboot.
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Feb 17, 2009 17:57
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Professor Funk posted:Well I guess I'll change my argument a bit. I'd say that the house in Friday the 13th 2009 is a far cry from the little house in Friday the 13th Part 4. I guess I'd say that the mansion in 2009 was a too lavish for the environment that the filmmakers were trying to create. They're actually pretty much the same size in practice  The difference in the two is essentially the idea of a summer home 25 years ago, and one now. This one has a more modern design and is on the water and "nicer."Don't get me wrong, I totally get your point. Aesthetically, it feels a lot different, even if, conceptually, it's essentially the same thing.
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Feb 17, 2009 18:02
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The Monocle posted:I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the "Mommy?" head-tilt has been a part of Jason's character since the second movie. I think he may have done it in two, but it disappeared until 7, and Kane Hodder is normally credited with that. Your point about him doing it in 2 may be right, though - I'll have to look on Youtube or something for that scene.
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Feb 17, 2009 18:04
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Darko posted:I think he may have done it in two, but it disappeared until 7, and Kane Hodder is normally credited with that. Your point about him doing it in 2 may be right, though - I'll have to look on Youtube or something for that scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXhywQJyvRQ&feature=related There you go.
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Feb 17, 2009 18:10
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Darko posted:Wait, what? Okay, this is getting ridiculous, any handheld cam is now known as "shaky cam?" Darko posted:This movie didn't really use any quick cuts (Batman Begins) or purposely shaky shots (Bourne). The difference between this and the old ones was that it was shot more heavily in shadow, and the kills were "faster" (the older ones had lots of shots of Jason sloooooowwwwlly harpooning and the like). Darko posted:However, that's the Michael Meyers head tilt, which was stolen by Kane Hodder for Jason in 7. So you've got it all out of order. Darko posted:I agree in execution. But to be fair, when you combine parts 1-4 of Friday the 13th, you -do- get a lot of those elements including hillbillies (you need Crazy Ralph, after all), shrines, etc. However, I didn't like them looking so much like TCM stuff, I agree. The other shot I found sort of unintentionally funny was the one where you see Jason standing on top of the porch holding the machete. He looked like a french swashbuckler more than anything else.
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Feb 17, 2009 18:17
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ok, i just saw it last night and here is my take: Pros - Lots of uber-hot boobs - pretty solid kills - lots of really hot boobs - characters that are straight up slasher-cliches but NOT winking at the camera doing it (rear end in a top hat boyfriend... i miss that character) - Jason is muy badass in it - Jason is still a ninja-teleporter Cons - plot holes, why would he choose to attack the house and wouldnt the rear end in a top hat bf have known about Jason considering it seemed like he's been to the house many times? And does Jason kill because of stolen pot? - bordered on torture/TCM territory with the girl chained up - didn't go all the way thankfully but still not good Basically it was good and satisfying but nothing great. It did capture the feel of an 80's slasher without being tongue/cheek and winking at the camera. I'd rank it my 3rd fave but it might grow on me with a repeat viewing (4,6 are my tops, then this, then FvJ, then F13 3-d, then Jason X....)
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Feb 17, 2009 18:23
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I don't think Leatherface really "counts" - he was gesturing all over the place and screaming and dancing around, so one gesture doesn't stand out, whereas Myers and Jason only do "one thing" that shows any thinking or emotion on their part. Nitpicky, I know, but that's why it's typically credited to Mike.
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Feb 17, 2009 18:23
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Darko posted:I don't think Leatherface really "counts" - he was gesturing all over the place and screaming and dancing around, so one gesture doesn't stand out, whereas Myers and Jason only do "one thing" that shows any thinking or emotion on their part. Nitpicky, I know, but that's why it's typically credited to Mike. I'm in agreement here. I don't really understand where you're getting a Leatherface "head-tilt" from. He's mentally retarded and he's always moving and rocking and tilting his head, there's never an emphasis on his head turning to the side. Wow...we're really debating B-movie characters tilting their heads to the side here, fellas.
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Feb 17, 2009 19:11
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Jason does the head tilt whenever he thinks he sees his mother, though I should watch Fv.J again to make sure. I enjoyed the callback to it though. I'm going to need to watch it again to decide my final opinion on it. I went into it focusing more on zombie Jason than human Jason, so the first half of the movie didn't sit right with me. I did enjoy that they showed about 5 different things he could kill with that he didn't use. It made it less formulaic in a good way.
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Feb 17, 2009 19:15
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Professor Funk posted:Yeah, but my point still stands, because it just so happens that Friday the 13th Part 4 was neither a good movie nor a scary one. Dude if you think part 4 was a bad movie your in the wrong thread.
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Feb 17, 2009 19:32
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The scene with the baby oil bordered on porn, and not torture porn. I also appreciated the fact that my prime candidate for final girl got killed unexpectedly.
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Feb 17, 2009 19:35
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The Remote Viewer posted:The scene with the baby oil bordered on porn, and not torture porn. There was one too many there for where the movie was and one was in the back of the line. Ah well...
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Feb 17, 2009 21:16
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The Remote Viewer posted:The scene with the baby oil bordered on porn, and not torture porn. It was funny because I knew going into the movie that there would be 13 kills and at that point I thought I had counted all of them already but then I realized that I had counted the sister from earlier in the film who we all were supposed to think was dead, and as soon as I realized my mistake the other girl gets offed.
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Feb 17, 2009 21:41
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Seeing this on Friday night at a theater right on the Philly waterfront was absolutely perfect. It would've been tough to find a crowd more into it. They lost their poo poo when the title screen came up 20 minutes in, and lost it again at Trent's girly scream. And any number of times between.
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Feb 17, 2009 21:44
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Toaster Beef posted:They lost their poo poo when the title screen came up 20 minutes in, and lost it again at Trent's girly scream. They did the exact same thing here in DC -- those were the two stand-out moments in terms of audience reaction.
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evilontwolegs posted:They did the exact same thing here in DC -- those were the two stand-out moments in terms of audience reaction. Those, and Lawrence fighting back. He almost made it too, until the axe to the back. People were cheering though at his initial stand. It was pretty cool to experience. This is a movie that definitely benefited from being with the right audience.
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Man, we need to speculate about the next Friday the 13th in here. I actually wouldn't mind a Jason in an urban environment kind of film. Jason Takes Manhattan could have been really fun if done right, though it is still a pretty funny movie.
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I didn't see this mentioned, but, did anyone notice shortly after the boat scene we find our heroes in Jason's bedroom... there's two archery trophies and a hockey trophy shown in the foreground. I love stuff like that!
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PsychoGoatee posted:Oh man, you've got to watch Part 4: The Final Chapter and Part 6: Jason Lives. Please, oh man, you'll thank me later. Didn't care much for Part 4 when I watched it earlier today, but I just finished watching Part 6 and thought it was the best one in the series. Thank you! Haha Also, I watched Jason Goes To Hell and it wasn't nearly as entertaining as it seemed like it'd be. The part where the coroner eats Jason's heart and his face starts melting off was extremely awesome, but that was about the only cool part of the movie.
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I liked how Jason dodged the mallet the main guy swung at him instead of just standing there and taking the hit like so many horror villians And I feared the movie was gonna be poo poo when they made not one but two stereotypical black guy 'cuz I'm black aint it?' but luckily they steered clear of that poo poo for the rest of the movie.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Didn't care much for Part 4 when I watched it earlier today, but I just finished watching Part 6 and thought it was the best one in the series. Thank you! Haha Right on, I knew we'd agree on one of them. 
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Feb 18, 2009 08:06
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I'm not normally a wearer of t-shirts with characters on them, but I got this one last year for my birthday and had to wear it to the movie last Saturday: http://www.fright-rags.com/index.php?main_page=product_reviews_info&products_id=27&reviews_id=10 Figured some of you other enjoyers of slasher movies might want one.
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I've ssen Friday The 13th 3 times now and it still kicks rear end. I can only hope Sorority Row is as good. Anyone else hope they do a proper remake of Prom Night?
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:So I watched The New Blood, Jason Takes Manhattan and Jason X tonight. New Blood and X were both loving awful, and Manhattan was pretty stupid too, except for a few awesome parts. But The New Blood is my favorite one 
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I've watched the first six Jason movies, and I'm currently watching the 7th movie. The biggest issue I have is that he has super strength and gets shot like 15 times in part six, only for him to actually struggle to overpower Tommy at the end.
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RichterIX posted:But The New Blood is my favorite one Same here. If they keep releasing the series in special editions, hopefully we'll finally get to see it uncut.
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RichterIX posted:But The New Blood is my favorite one It was when I was a kid, but the only part I like now is the Jason makeup FX when his mask gets smashed and he growls at the psychic girl.
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evilontwolegs posted:Same here. If they keep releasing the series in special editions, hopefully we'll finally get to see it uncut. I would give an arm and a leg for an uncut version of Part 7.
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Pillowpants posted:I've watched the first six Jason movies, and I'm currently watching the 7th movie. The biggest issue I have is that he has super strength and gets shot like 15 times in part six, only for him to actually struggle to overpower Tommy at the end. Well, that's where the series went after part 5. I can't really say I liked it, so I'm happy that, from what I've read here, the remake is more like part 1-4.
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DominoDancing posted:Well, that's where the series went after part 5. I can't really say I liked it, so I'm happy that, from what I've read here, the remake is more like part 1-4. It really is. Except I think it's better. The first few parts all feel very dated. And I know I'm just watching them now for the first time so I'm sure I don't appreciate them as much as I probably would have had I seen them when they were brand new, but the remake just feels a lot stronger. I felt bored while watching the first few parts. I definitely saw potential for them to be awesome, but they just didn't seem to live up to the hype and didn't really hold my attention. I never felt bored while watching the remake, though. I guess it's just because it's new and pretty and easier to relate to, but I just had a hell of a lot more fun watching that one than the originals.
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So is this like the designated horror thread now? Cause I just wanted to recommend a great (Portugese? Spanish?) horror flick called Shiver that I grabbed off instant Netflix that was surprisingly good. I guess it's kind of a slasher flick.
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I hate getting into genre dick-waving, but this is more Slashers than Horror.
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Pet Rock Band posted:I hate getting into genre dick-waving, but this is more Slashers than Horror.  Hell, I get exhausted just thinking about it now.
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