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I concur with the two guys above me. edit: Oh. Not above me. On the previous page.
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I have the first edition. I might buy the second edition, just for the hell of it.
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Feb 18, 2009 14:10
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Cyne posted:Fission - http://www.rogueamoeba.com/fission/ Brilliant! Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try all of these out tonight.
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Feb 18, 2009 15:51
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Kai was taken posted:I have the first edition. I might buy the second edition, just for the hell of it. I bought the second edition the other week. I've not had much of a chance to go through it, but it seems like a pretty good book. My only complaint is that the chapters dedicated to specific genres are hopeless and, imo, should be overlooked. The rest of the book seems like a useful reference, though.
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cubicle gangster posted:Anyone got any comments? Going to have another go over in an hour and see what I can tidy/finish off. Bit late if you only wanted feedback within that hour, but better late than never? All sounds pretty dope to me aside from that rimshot. It just seems to dry / loud / something. Everything else I really like, but that rimshot for some reason just kills the song for me.
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mezzir posted:Bit late if you only wanted feedback within that hour, but better late than never? Decided to wait a while to finish it off, yours is the first comment i've had on it in 50 tindeck downloads and 150 odd myspace listens... I see what you mean about the rimshot now - i'll take out some of the higher frequencies and see if I can soften it up a bit or just lower the mix. Might play around with a little reverb and layering. I do want a high snappy sound and I know it can work, just needs some changes. Thanks for liking it too 
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Feb 18, 2009 19:18
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Maybe just use a different sample? I've found it's 99.9% of the time better to switch the sound if it's not working than to load it up with FX to try and get it to fit.
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Feb 19, 2009 04:54
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Is there any way I can use the joystick on a USB gamepad as a pitch / modulation wheel? Would also be useful for the X/Y pad on z3ta
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Feb 19, 2009 07:46
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Prize Winner posted:Is there any way I can use the joystick on a USB gamepad as a pitch / modulation wheel? Would also be useful for the X/Y pad on z3ta
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Is the microKORG the best synth in its price range? I mean for something I don't have to plug into the computer.
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A MIRACLE posted:Is the microKORG the best synth in its price range? I mean for something I don't have to plug into the computer. Do buy it secondhand. Those offered usually are nothing worse for the wear, you'll save yourself money, and you can sell it for the same price if it's not what you want. However, if you can spot an MS2000 for not much more, try to get that. A Novation A-Station might be better but it's a rack synth (and not easily available) while the MK comes with a keyboard and can be had everywhere.
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I think the Xiosynth is about the same price as microkorg (300~ a few months ago), I'd recommend that over a Microkorg, it's the little brother to the X-station and has an audio interface.
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I found the MicroKorg incredibly cheesy. The keys are tiny, the sounds are generic, the arpeggios are cliche, and the microphone sucks. Go for the Xiosynth.
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A MIRACLE posted:Is the microKORG the best synth in its price range? I mean for something I don't have to plug into the computer. If you're just starting out with subtractive synthesis though, it might be better to look for something with a ton of knobs that lets you edit pretty much everything without diving into menus. It'll let you get a better feel for how the sounds are actually made and hopefully get you less reliant on presets.
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Rivfader posted:I have this and it's great. I don't know your level of knowledge, but mine's pretty limited right now and reading this is doing a great job of teaching me a lot of new things. What's this thing have to say about songwriting? Like patterns and stuff. I have some trouble figuring out what to do with notes other than have the bass follow the pads follow the lead. (Though some tracks do just that.)
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SynthesizerKaiser posted:What's this thing have to say about songwriting? Like patterns and stuff. I have some trouble figuring out what to do with notes other than have the bass follow the pads follow the lead. (Though some tracks do just that.) I cant comment on this book in particular but I think a lot of electronic musicians would benefit from a simple music theory primer, especially if they havent played a conventional instrument before. There are very simple rules for what chord change = what melody etc, and electronic music follows them (depending on your genre). Again I cant recommend one but I know Berklee publishes primers that are less dry than usual.
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Feb 20, 2009 07:26
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wayfinder posted:http://krypt.dyndns.org:81/joy2midi/ Thanks!
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I think Electronic gets the worst musicians around, just because you get a lot of people with no musical training who are like "HEY TIME TO DOWNLOAD FROOTYLOOPZ" and end up sticking patterns together that make no musical sense. At least when you get crappy rock bands they can play Smoke on the Water in key.
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Kai was taken posted:I think Electronic gets the worst musicians around, just because you get a lot of people with no musical training who are like "HEY TIME TO DOWNLOAD FROOTYLOOPZ" and end up sticking patterns together that make no musical sense. It's also because making electronic music and recording are pretty much the same thing. If you're in a band you can gently caress around all day jamming and not have anything recorded to show for it but if you're making beats on a computer, when you think you're done you can put the thing online four clicks later.
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Oh yeah, and the first edition of the book had some decent grounds for electronic music theory, although it's not a "theory" book. It shows off, structurally, some aspects of genres (EG, trance leads are minor keys, and they progress a certain way).
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stun runner posted:It's also because making electronic music and recording are pretty much the same thing. If you're in a band you can gently caress around all day jamming and not have anything recorded to show for it but if you're making beats on a computer, when you think you're done you can put the thing online four clicks later. you say this like its a good thing
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I am having an rear end of a time making the SIMPLEST GODDAMN SOUND. It's the lead from PPK - Resurrection Basically sounds like a sine wave. The one that hits at 0:41. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYPTgJbfJZ8 Someone help me out here. What the poo poo I can't get it to sound correct.
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Feb 20, 2009 10:14
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Try saturating your sine.
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Terrible Horse posted:I cant comment on this book in particular but I think a lot of electronic musicians would benefit from a simple music theory primer, especially if they havent played a conventional instrument before. There are very simple rules for what chord change = what melody etc, and electronic music follows them (depending on your genre). Again I cant recommend one but I know Berklee publishes primers that are less dry than usual. I agree with this. https://www.musictheory.net is your friend. Kai was taken posted:Oh yeah, and the first edition of the book had some decent grounds for electronic music theory, although it's not a "theory" book. It shows off, structurally, some aspects of genres (EG, trance leads are minor keys, and they progress a certain way). Yeah that's a lot of what I'm looking for. It was really helpful to begin to understand music theory (major/harmonic minor scale, chords & intervals). Unfortunately it seems I still don't understand how to write anything under 132 bpm. 
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Kai was taken posted:I am having an rear end of a time making the SIMPLEST GODDAMN SOUND. Using Synth1 to figure this out, and I think yoozer's right that saturating helps but I think my initial intuition was right that you want a triangle layered in there as well as a sine. Rather than a printscreen cause its fairly simple, start a new sound, set osc2 to triangle, set the osc1/2 mix to somewhere in the middle (thuogh I'm thinking maybe 2/3 towards triangle), osc2's fine adjust to 0, and up the saturation under the filter section, and that should just about do it (fiddle with the saturation to get it right).
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Help, please. I have used Fruity Loops for about for 9 years I think. I feel its limiting in its automation interface and overall toy like nature. I am trying Ableton on a highend PC. Knowing this, should I continue learning Live or something else? I mainly create dark dubstep and industrial/noise and chiptune tracker stuff. Im used to the tracker organizing playlist for an interface. NI Massive, wav samples, and Synth1 are what I use most often in a DAW. What DAW is going to have less of a steep learning curve for my tracker mindset?
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gargamale posted:Help, please. I have used Fruity Loops for about for 9 years I think. I feel its limiting in its automation interface and overall toy like nature. I am trying Ableton on a highend PC. Knowing this, should I continue learning Live or something else? I mainly create dark dubstep and industrial/noise and chiptune tracker stuff. Im used to the tracker organizing playlist for an interface. NI Massive, wav samples, and Synth1 are what I use most often in a DAW. What DAW is going to have less of a steep learning curve for my tracker mindset? Let me get this straight: You've used Fruityloops for 9 years and you've just now decided it's too limiting? Refer to the original post. Use whatever software you feel like you can get the job done more effectively. If you feel Fruity was limiting you, all you should have to do is ask yourself if those limitations are removed by another software suite you've tried. Not to be a dick here, but if you've been at this for 9 years, you should already know what you're looking for.
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gargamale posted:Help, please. I have used Fruity Loops for about for 9 years I think. I feel its limiting in its automation interface and overall toy like nature. I am trying Ableton on a highend PC. Knowing this, should I continue learning Live or something else? I mainly create dark dubstep and industrial/noise and chiptune tracker stuff. Im used to the tracker organizing playlist for an interface. NI Massive, wav samples, and Synth1 are what I use most often in a DAW. What DAW is going to have less of a steep learning curve for my tracker mindset? Shed all your shackles and experience the freedom* of Buzz! *You'll be free from almost all limitations, but also from lots of safety nets. I'll still not seriously recommend anyone to "just use Buzz" because it's so easy to get it wrong but I'll say this: If you do it right, there's nothing better.
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For less freedom, but more safety nets, might I suggest Renoise for your tracker mindset? The audio engine is absolutely superb and it is constantly updated.
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Kai was taken posted:Let me get this straight: You've used Fruityloops for 9 years and you've just now decided it's too limiting? WAIT, Fruity Loops has been out 9 years? drat.
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A MIRACLE posted:Is the microKORG the best synth in its price range? I mean for something I don't have to plug into the computer. I wrote in this thread about a Microkorg i bought some months ago. It's got it's cons and it's pros, like everything else. The thing I liked most about it is it's portability. It's small and you can carry it in a bag anywhere. That was crucial to me as I was moving abroad and wanted to carry it with me in the plane (not taking the risk of carrying a more expensive synth as baggage and let it be broken or lost; actually, they lost my main bag for like a week). Also, it's go a nice vocoder which is always a good thing. What I don't like about it is mainly it's small keys. I'm trying to learn to play a bit of keyboard playing and it makes it difficult, even when I have medium sized and slim fingers. Also they feel a bit fragile and you may refrain from hitting them properly for fear of breaking them or damaging them. I also don't like the whole process of editing presets, it feels too much as a "ship in a bottle" thing (ie, if you turn this knob like this, then the four knobs control attack, decay etc, but if you turn it like that then they control effects, etc etc). I think the solution for both of those is buying a MIDI-USB interface. That way you can make fast syncopated bassline patterns EBM style which would be impossible to play live (or at least I wouldn't dare to, not only for being difficult but because I don't want to break the keys). Although it doesn't solve the fact that the keys are small, it's a way to circumvent it. But what I think it's truly cool about wiring it to a PC is the Microkorg editor: it's much easier to edit presets via PC than manually (except for minor tweaks). If I were to had stayed at home, maybe I would have waited and saved more money to buy another synth (does anyone here own a Moog Little Fatty? reviews are welcome). But I had to get a portable one and I think it was a good option, even when I'm still learning to use it for now (been very busy lately and haven't had the time to fiddle with it as I should). The presets are for the most part quite awful so I wouldn't judge it based on them. They seem to be geared to cheesy euro-dance producers, or the "I want to be Dr.Dre" crowd. But if some bands get cool sounds of it, why couldn't you? And I'm not speaking about supposed microkorg users, but those who you can really see them using it: IGO, Crystal Castles, this band from Barcelona named Der Ventilator, Digitalism... (maybe they're not your cup of tea, but if you do like them, they seem to make a pretty heavy use of the MicroKorg). Or maybe their sound also has to do with EQing and producing... I'm still new to EDM so I don't know. What I think is a nice point is that the Microkorg seems to be quite easy to sell second-hand. It's a cheap, starter synth which many non-synth players dare to buy just to experiment, where you would find it harder to sell those people a more expensive synth. So you get potential second hand buyers from people who try to make almost any kind of musical genre. That's cool because I guess you won't have it hard to sell it in a far future if you get fed up of it, or in a more inmediate one if you don't really like it.
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If you hate the ship in a bottle thing then the little phatty is way more annoying than an r3 or a microkorg. If you want a microkorg save up for a used or new korg r3. fullsized keys, radias guts. Rkelly fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Feb 21, 2009 |
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Thanks for the info. Starting a rock/dance band with 3 or 4 of my buddies and we wanted a little synth for some leads or something. Could I plug a Xiosynth into a loop pedal?? or can it loop itself.. just an idea. thx though
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Wow, I never knew you could actually edit the sounds on the MicroKorg. Now it doesn't seem like it sucks quite as much. As for the Little Phatty, the interface is a little complicated at first, but once you spend some time behind it you will realize how intuitive it really is. Also, the real Moog analog mojo is there. I love mine, I just wish I had a place to set it up because it's a pain in the rear end keeping it in the box and having to get it out every time I want to use it. It's not as "Little" as you'd think.
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Deific Presence posted:Wow, I never knew you could actually edit the sounds on the MicroKorg. Now it doesn't seem like it sucks quite as much. Trentemoller uses it for his live shows, and the quality he gets out of it is ridiculous. Might take some work, but it can sound amazing.
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A MIRACLE posted:Thanks for the info. Starting a rock/dance band with 3 or 4 of my buddies and we wanted a little synth for some leads or something. Could I plug a Xiosynth into a loop pedal?? or can it loop itself.. just an idea. thx though yes and its 100 bucks cheaper. It's an audio interface and is has a step sequencer for gated rhythm patterns of justice.
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e; I posted a long winded vague question earlier that probably can't be answered succinctly so here is a better one. The bass that comes in around 1:00 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMzs_3NxEEI. Help?? It sounds pretty simple but I haven't had any luck emulating it. 9b817f5 fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Feb 23, 2009 |
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Layering.
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:Layering. Could you be more specific? e; Ignore this post, I redacted my earlier question in favor of another one. 9b817f5 fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Feb 23, 2009 |
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