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Anacostia posted:I've gotten the point where I can think of (or whatever) a sound in my head and transpose that onto the mechanical workings of a synth. I still have real trouble with making bass patches, however. I conceptually don't understand how artists get bass sounds that just gently caress your mind when you hear them. I know that's a sort of crappy description but I don't know how else to describe it. I feel as if my basses lack weight or they aren't "fat" enough. Sounds almost like a donk, but I could be way off here. It's just that I associate the woody clicking sound in the beginning with a donk.
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Doesnt sound too far from a recording of someone actually playing a bass, if it is it's heavily eq'd and looped to be perfect. Either way it's not that simple, they've layered the sound to emulate an actual bass as closely as possible with the slight click at the start and little slides at the end. Could just get browsing presets for your synths, find one (or two) close and adjust to fit/layer up. To make your bass sound bigger look into selective eq'ing, sidechaining, making room for frequencies poo poo. It's very easy to output something lower than your speakers can play, so even though it's very quiet you're almost redlining and it's making your kicks sound weird. I spent a few weeks just trying to get depth to bass because I knew it was a major flaw of mine. I cant really give you specifics with such a vague question though, it was 3 20 odd hour weeks of trial and error just on one area.
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Feb 23, 2009 13:43
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cubicle gangster posted:Doesnt sound too far from a recording of someone actually playing a bass, if it is it's heavily eq'd and looped to be perfect. Alright, practice makes perfect I guess. Thanks for the advice.
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Anacostia posted:Alright, practice makes perfect I guess. Thanks for the advice. http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/production/make-and-mix-a-running-16th-note-bassline/ i dunno if that will help but there it is. also, maybe try setting your synth to unison and maybe like 2-3 voices going or two oscillators and some detuning, then maybe saturate(overdrive) it some. i use ableton's analog to make basses and its absolutely wicked. if you have live and analog i would give it a try.
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Deific Presence posted:Wow, I never knew you could actually edit the sounds on the MicroKorg. Now it doesn't seem like it sucks quite as much. Isn't that the whole point of a synth? I mean if you couldn't edit the presets and you were stuck with those that come from Kord, it would be more like a keyboard right? (although some keyboards have synth-like functions and the line between both is quite blurry at some I guess, my dad has a Roland keyboard that I recall could do some nice basses but you didn't have knobs so you couldn't play with the cutoff live or anything).
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oredun posted:http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/production/make-and-mix-a-running-16th-note-bassline/ I do, thanks for the link. I just downloaded an ungodly amount of midi files for popular house/trance songs. I'm not going to lie, just seeing the midi of good (depending on your musical tastes)/complete songs laid out in front of me helps. 9b817f5 fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Feb 23, 2009 |
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Feb 23, 2009 19:54
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Kai was taken posted:I am having an rear end of a time making the SIMPLEST GODDAMN SOUND. It sounds like a sine wave with some noise wave underneath it. If you have Ableton's Operator, load up a sine wave and set the LFO to noise wave, the LFO Range to "H", and Rate: 50 Mod: 25% Then throw on a bunch of reverb and delay and what have you.
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Anacostia posted:I do, thanks for the link. I do this all the time when I'm trying to remake a sound. I pull the midi file of the instrument, then A/B what I make with the song.
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Feb 25, 2009 07:14
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The Fog posted:Sounds almost like a donk, but I could be way off here. That's what it sounds like here, too (though I'm listening on laptop speakers for now). Try layering your bass in Thor with a sample of a taiko or something. Layering's ridiculously effective to get sounds that a single synth would have a lot of trouble with, and it's (IMHO) an underrated tool. You can't get this out of a single machine.
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Alright I have a very basic question and I hope I didn't skip over an entire section on this. Let me start by saying I'm an amateur, I have no real musical aspirations other than having fun making stuff. What I want to know is the difference between a drum machine, a sampler, an MPC pad and similar things. What I believe I'm looking for is something that can store samples, has pressure sensitive pads for those samples, options to play them into loops, and a few effects. I like those Akai MPC pads alot, but I don't know if that's above and beyond what I'm looking to do. I have a synth hooked up to my macbook, I play around in garage band. It started as a way to get better at playing piano but I don't have a passion for that anymore. I've been intrigued by sampler pads for a while now, but don't really know what I'm looking for. I've poked around online a bit and stopped by Guitar Center a few times to play with what they have on display there, but I'm not sure what to get. Admin Understudy fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Feb 26, 2009 |
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I covered Morning Mood. http://www.zshare.net/audio/56190382d3f188b9/ I think I have fixed all of the problems with it that I can find, so can anyone give me some feedback?
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Feb 26, 2009 15:24
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colonp posted:I'm looking for a vst or something that lets me preview samples without loading them first, ala what you can do with Redrum in Reason. Any free stuff that does that? I'm using Reaper by the way. 
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Feb 26, 2009 16:16
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Has anyone encountered this thing in Logic where a synth will 'gasp' like a note was pressed just before the start of a song that you're bouncing out to an MP3 file? I have no idea what's going on, but in a couple different instances I've got songs that are supposed to start with silence or straight drums and on top of it there's the tail-end of some random synth note/chord, as if there was a MIDI note for it before the start of the song. Any idea what's causing this?
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Feb 26, 2009 16:38
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colonp posted:Got too annoyed with it Its good enough for James Holden.
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Are there any free plugins or anything I can use in Cubase 5 that have similar functionality to Dr. Rex or Halion 3?
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Chipyy posted:Are there any free plugins or anything I can use in Cubase 5 that have similar functionality to Dr. Rex or Halion 3? http://tinyurl.com/d2roh9
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Admin Understudy posted:Alright I have a very basic question and I hope I didn't skip over an entire section on this. Let me start by saying I'm an amateur, I have no real musical aspirations other than having fun making stuff. You just need a trigger finger midi pad, or the akai equivalent. I would get the korg nanopad on the cheap and just midi it. It is 50 bucks I think.
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KRFTSNGLZ posted:Has anyone encountered this thing in Logic where a synth will 'gasp' like a note was pressed just before the start of a song that you're bouncing out to an MP3 file? I have no idea what's going on, but in a couple different instances I've got songs that are supposed to start with silence or straight drums and on top of it there's the tail-end of some random synth note/chord, as if there was a MIDI note for it before the start of the song. Any idea what's causing this?
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colonp posted:I'm looking for a vst or something that lets me preview samples without loading them first, ala what you can do with Redrum in Reason. Any free stuff that does that? I'm using Reaper by the way. Non-free VST: NI Battery Non-free DAW with OOTB-support: Cubase
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Meatsplosion posted:Is your audio engine only set to run during playback? You're probably hearing the buffered sound from wherever you had it playing previously. Try setting your sound to 'always running' or just move the cursor a few bars after the end of the song and hit play to let the buffer play out before you encode your file. Ahh, that makes sense. I don't have much experience under the hood, but I'll take a look at this when I get home, thanks!
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So I just upgraded from Cubase SX3 to Cubase 5. I'm wondering how I can export .fxp-presets from a VST. The old way, where you click on the little disk and choose Export Preset, doesn't work anymore  e: Scratch that... I found you can right-click the preset and choose to view in explorer... Which brings me to my next question: .vstpreset to .fxp anyone? The Fog fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Feb 27, 2009 |
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My favorite song recently has been Hostage - The Slave. You can listen to it on his myspace (it's not on Youtube). Anyway, I have some questions about the drop on this song, which is one minute in. (something about the myspace player is messed up and the time gets all weird if you skip around) First, how does he make that synth "roll" like that? I haven't been able to make anything close to that sound by myself. All I know is that there's some filter modulation and some sidechaining involved. Second, how does he make it bounce that much? I've found ways to make it sound like that (for example, bit crushing the drums, make the drum hits themselves as short as possible, and make a punchy, loud bass drum and have no other sub bass) but I can't create anything as intense as that song. Any advice? Altoidss fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Feb 28, 2009 |
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Altoidss posted:First, how does he make that synth "roll" like that? quote:Any advice?
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Yoozer posted:Portamento. I actually don't know if this is portamento. It doesn't have the absolute consistency or curve of your typical exponential time based porta. It almost sounds to me like he's midi controlling the pitch bend wheel, manually loving with the pitch bend wheel for one take and then looping, or the sound is a sampled waveform or short hit and he's doing pitch bends in the sample domain that don't match up exactly to an exponential portamento curve.
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Pitch-bending would require a lot more work and precision, and these producers are lazy, which explains the same samples, the same sidechaining and the same square wave FLG bass all the time  
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Well there is that! Still doesn't sound like a typical portamento though.
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Yoozer posted:Pitch-bending would require a lot more work and precision, and these producers are lazy, which explains the same samples, the same sidechaining and the same square wave FLG bass all the time What's FLG?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYPqA4slnbQ "Fedde Le Grand" doesn't work outside of Yurp, like the US has Yaz and JXL because Yazoo already was taken and Junkie XL wouldn't sound right with Elvis.
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I hear that loving square bass in every 3rd new banger. I like the resonant movement on the hats though.
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Only someone who has dedicated as much time to electronic music as Yoozer could even utter a sentence packed with so much information, yet so confusing at the same time.
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I've read that four times and I still have no idea.
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yurp means europe
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stun runner posted:I've read that four times and I still have no idea. They've replaced the name "Fedde le Grand" with "FLG" for countries outside Europe to make it more marketable. Junkie XL had to replace his name with "JXL" because Elvis' family didn't want the word "Junkie" to be in one title wiht "Elvis", because people might get crazy ideas. Wikipedia posted:... Yazoo renamed to Yaz for the US market because the name was already in use by a small American rock band poo poo, I should've just stuck with "that overused loving sound everyone wants to loving imitate which drives me up the loving wall because it's 1) so goddamn easy and 2) so goddamn boring. The chances that we'll ever get songs with more than 4 chords back are dropping every day, and we really have to kick the habit of lowpassfiltering everything to fill up 8 bars. Back in 1994 they didn't do that poo poo yet, and either songs got more boring or more exciting because there's only so much you can do.
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what chall think about this? http://tindeck.com/listen/mvta needs another part
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Yoozer posted:Portamento. Really? I wasn't talking about what it does when it changes notes, but the weird modulation that happens to it when it's holding a note. EDIT: Trill rear end, I thought your song was good, but I don't necessarily think it needs a new part. I do think you should put in a really spacey break in there somewhere, though. It would be cool if at one point you just cut to all the weird background noise for a bit. Altoidss fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Feb 28, 2009 |
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Yoozer posted:The chances that we'll ever get songs with more than 4 chords back are dropping every day, and we really have to kick the habit of lowpassfiltering everything to fill up 8 bars. Back in 1994 they didn't do that poo poo yet, and either songs got more boring or more exciting because there's only so much you can do.
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trill rear end posted:what chall think about this? It needs another part, and a little more variation, but man you got it. There is something in your work that is great. It's the treatment of the kick and drums, and the little vocoded drum pattern i think I hear.
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