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On a related note, I thought the Hogfather movie was pretty awesome. When I saw it I had just read Hogfather a couple days before, and it was clear to me that basically every line in the movie was ripped directly from the book, and I thought that was kinda awesome. I wish more movie adaptations worked that way.
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Out of all the books I think Mort would've been the best to make into a movie. It's very self-contained, and for some reason Mort's transformation into Death really sticks with one of the rare(if not unique) things in the Discworld series that would work even better on film. That or Witches Abroad. I'm just dying to put an audio track to Baron Saturday's entrance in the climax.
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Feb 15, 2009 11:13
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DontMockMySmock posted:On a related note, I thought the Hogfather movie was pretty awesome. When I saw it I had just read Hogfather a couple days before, and it was clear to me that basically every line in the movie was ripped directly from the book, and I thought that was kinda awesome. I wish more movie adaptations worked that way. There were some super-awkward lines though.. The way the 'like about five in the afternoon?' line came out was just very confusing and not so great as it read in the book, that's the only example I can think of offhand though. I have to say I haven't seen Johnny and The Bomb, so hey maybe that worked  I seem to remember that Truckers had a TV show sometime in the 90s too..
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Feb 15, 2009 14:47
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Kasonic posted:Out of all the books I think Mort would've been the best to make into a movie. It's very self-contained, and for some reason Mort's transformation into Death really sticks with one of the rare(if not unique) things in the Discworld series that would work even better on film. Witches Abroad could be done like a (not sucky) live-action fairy tale, like Enchanted. The book has a concise beginning, middle, and end and most of the humor is just a twist on standard fairy-tale stuff anyway, which cuts down on the required exposition. It'd probably be even easier to make than Mort.
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Feb 15, 2009 16:15
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Kojiro posted:None of the interpretations have been any good, to be honest. The Colour of Magic was godawful, terrible casting (David Jason? Really?) and the wrong tone entirely. I've seen a couple of plays (Guards! Guards! and Carpe Jugulum), they worked pretty well. quote:People, seriously. . . stop judging the witches based on Equal Rites. That book sucks. Read the rest of them. Wyrd Sisters, Witches Abroad, Lords and Ladies, Maskerade, and Carpe Jugulum are all very well written, very funny, very parody-y.
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Feb 16, 2009 12:15
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Finished Hogfather (read all of the Death series now) and I can see where people have issues with it. It's a very odd book compared to the rest of the series and a lot more serious overall than most of Pratchett's writing. Moving Pictures is probably up next. I'm tempted to try a few witch or Rincewind books, though, as a change of pace.
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Feb 25, 2009 04:02
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Mokinokaro posted:Moving Pictures is probably up next. I'm tempted to try a few witch or Rincewind books, though, as a change of pace. Moving Pictures is pretty weak standalone that fits most thematically with the super-light tone and thin plots of the earlier books. It does introduce Gaspode though, and he's an awesome character whenever he shows up.
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Feb 25, 2009 06:20
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I've read the whole Watch series so I know all about Gaspode.
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Feb 25, 2009 18:51
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While I liked the Hogfather adaptation, it did start dragging horribly after a while, and it occured to me that it was perhaps trying to be too faithful to the book. Adding in every incidental character, special moment and so on just because you can leads to a very inflated story. That said, I enjoyed it a lot more than the CoM one.
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Feb 25, 2009 21:31
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Mokinokaro posted:I've read the whole Watch series so I know all about Gaspode. Yeah, but perhaps not about his mysterious and fantastic origin story.
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Feb 25, 2009 21:52
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About 1/3rd in Moving Pictures and liking so far, even if a lot of the jokes are cornier than usual for Pratchett Holy Wood? Really? I guess I'd probably be fine reading the his earlier Rincewind and Witches stuff. I've read much worse comedy/satire.
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Feb 26, 2009 16:51
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Mokinokaro posted:About 1/3rd in Moving Pictures and liking so far, even if a lot of the jokes are cornier than usual for Pratchett Holy Wood? Really? About fifteen miles down the motorway from me is a town called Holywood. No relation, as far as I'm aware, but I've never gone to the cinema there 
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Mokinokaro posted:About 1/3rd in Moving Pictures and liking so far, even if a lot of the jokes are cornier than usual for Pratchett Holy Wood? Really? You don't need to spoiler that, and yeah, really.  Most of the book is that way, and it reeks of Flintstones' "tech".
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Feb 26, 2009 19:05
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LooseChanj posted:You don't need to spoiler that, and yeah, really. It's been brought up before, by several people, but Moving Pictures really is a kind of transition novel from the goofy/zaniness of the first few books into the most serious satire of the later ones.
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Feb 27, 2009 13:45
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Moist von Lipwig posted:It's been brought up before, by several people, but Moving Pictures really is a kind of transition novel from the goofy/zaniness of the first few books into the most serious satire of the later ones. It just seemed like a lot of the things should have been magical, not little imps in cameras drawing pictures, which is what the Flintstones did. And some things were just shoved in for the sole purpose of being able to tell stories that depend on certain technical prerequisites, and don't fit discworld at all. I know you could say "well, that's because the source of those things is the source of the same things in our world" but it just doesn't fit. It's hamhanded to a degree that's jarring coming from Pratchett.
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Feb 27, 2009 14:19
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Flintstones tech's fairly common in Discworld, though. That's how their normal cameras work, and then there's also the famous Disorganizer.
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Feb 27, 2009 16:38
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Having reread Thud I will have to say that Vimes is totally the best.  I am still shocked that the climax could be that hilarious and badass at the same time.Also, a scruffier Jack O'Neill from Stargate (Richard Dean Anderson!) plays Sam Vimes in my head.
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Feb 28, 2009 08:26
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Solenna posted:Having reread Thud I will have to say that Vimes is totally the best. Thud! is amazing. And the fact that they actually published a real version of Where's My Cow? is totally wonderful.
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Feb 28, 2009 16:48
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I've never actually imagined Vimes as played by a human being. In my mind he's a scruffier version of the Cookie Crisp cop. I think all Discworld characters lend themselves to cartoony images in my head, though. Except maybe Moist.
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Entropic posted:And the fact that they actually published a real version of Where's My Cow? is totally wonderful. I was kind of disappointed that it's not just a picture book version of Where's my Cow, but a kind of picture book of Vimes reading a picture book. I still read it to my son sometimes though, and my Father-in-law got me a signed copy as well which was cool of him.
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Mar 1, 2009 00:09
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Well, finished Moving Pictures. Definitely the weakest thing I've read from Pratchett, though the ending was great. It just plodded too much in the middle. There wasn't enough story for a full novel.
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Mar 2, 2009 18:57
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It's still better than
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ThaGhettoJew posted:It's still better than Whoa, people didn't like Plus the demons file everything under "P" for "People"
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There are a couple of decent gags, but the whole thing is a thinly-veiled sketch comedy setup with paper-thin characters and no story. The Last Hero, the other comparable short-form illustrated work, was a lot more fun. Admittedly it's got the plot point that gets Rincewind back into the series, but it's still my least favorite of his.
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Mar 3, 2009 04:45
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My personal reality does not allow for the existence of a worse book than The Last Continent. The first bad Simpsons episode is the one where they go to Australia and it's 22 minutes of "AUSTRALIA LOL". The Last Continent is pretty much that in Pratchett form, and it's painful.
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I'm sure if Pterry could go back he'd change a few things. I mean the place names, when we get away from the main continent all we get are Ting Lings, Bhangbhangducs and Didjabringabeeralongs.
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Mar 3, 2009 12:40
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Last Continent is worth it because the UU faculty is in top form.
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Pope Guilty posted:My personal reality does not allow for the existence of a worse book than The Last Continent. The first bad Simpsons episode is the one where they go to Australia and it's 22 minutes of "AUSTRALIA LOL". The Last Continent is pretty much that in Pratchett form, and it's painful. It was my first Discworld book, actually.  I didn't mind it, though I wouldn't call it a favourite now. On the other hand, my least favourite is probably... actually, I dunno, thinking about it. I don't think I outright disliked any of them, though a number don't exactly stand out in my memory(most of the earliest ones, most of the witch books, etc).
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Pope Guilty posted:My personal reality does not allow for the existence of a worse book than The Last Continent. The first bad Simpsons episode is the one where they go to Australia and it's 22 minutes of "AUSTRALIA LOL". The Last Continent is pretty much that in Pratchett form, and it's painful. I kinda liked it for the Waltzing Matilda parody and the accidental invention of Vegemite and the Australian version of UU
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Pope Guilty posted:My personal reality does not allow for the existence of a worse book than The Last Continent. The first bad Simpsons episode is the one where they go to Australia and it's 22 minutes of "AUSTRALIA LOL". The Last Continent is pretty much that in Pratchett form, and it's painful. You missed the joke in The Simpsons episode if you think it's just that. It's also one of the best episodes.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:You missed the joke in The Simpsons episode if you think it's just that. Is this like where idiots say that Carlos Mencia isn't making racist jokes, he's making fun of racist jokes?
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Spatule posted:Anybody read "Nation" ? Is it good ? I liked it very much indeed. I guess opinion is divided on this one, but I certainly found it better than any of his other non-Discworld books. Edit: Mind you, my opinion is tainted due to my grief regarding his Alzheimers. I've been reading Pratchett since I was nine or ten and have a signed copy of "Johnny and the dead" from his Jingo book tour of South Africa in 1998. Phaeoacremonium fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Mar 5, 2009 |
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Whalley posted:the Australian version of UU I liked their Tower of Art with the 'shorter at the bottom than it is at the top' conceit. That amused me. One of my favourites of the Rincewind series, but that's not saying much because I don't really like the Rincewind ones. God, I still need to start Nation. It was next on my to read pile, but then the guy I'm dating forced me to read his favourite book, Perdido Street Station, and it's incredibly hard going. Great book, but the text is so rich and immersive, you have to keep taking breathers. The city of New Crobuzon is very Ankh-Morpork in a way.
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The_Doctor posted:God, I still need to start Nation. It was next on my to read pile, but then the guy I'm dating forced me to read his favourite book, Perdido Street Station You need to dump him and that silly book and start Nation as soon as possible.
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Pope Guilty posted:Is this like where idiots say that Carlos Mencia isn't making racist jokes, he's making fun of racist jokes? The whole reason they picked Australia to make fun of was because they felt Australians were laid back enough to find the extremely over the top jokes too absurd to be offensive. But I guess saying Australians drink a lot of beer is a racist joke
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:The whole reason they picked Australia to make fun of was because they felt Australians were laid back enough to find the extremely over the top jokes too absurd to be offensive. But I guess saying Australians drink a lot of beer is a racist joke Hey, racism is funny: all humor arises from cruelty and tragedy, and racism is particularly cruel and tragic. Comedy gold! There's a reason why Carlos Mencia is popular enough to have his own show. Personally I think he's a terrible comedian, but whatever.
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Hey, I'm Australian and The Last Continent is rather funny, but I will admit that generally, it's not as strong as the good books of the series.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:The whole reason they picked Australia to make fun of was because they felt Australians were laid back enough to find the extremely over the top jokes too absurd to be offensive. But I guess saying Australians drink a lot of beer is a racist joke Haha, chill out. I'm not saying the book and episode are racist, I'm saying they're lazy compendiums of national stereotypes. What I'm trying to imply is that you're dumb enough to make the same argument that Mencia supporters make about his lazy compendiums of racial stereotypes.
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I like the newer, slightly larger 'adult style' cover versions of the books, unlike the older ones I can read these without bending the bindings to read the entire line of text on a page so the book stays in rather good condition. I recently took to the Watch series and have been speeding, hungrily through them, until I reached Night Watch which has yet to be published in the newer version. Not wanting to wait for the release I purchased the original paperback version and it has been very difficult not to crease the binding.
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Night Watch is only out here in the newer style. It's topped only by Thud! in the Watch series.
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