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CapnAndy posted:Depends on the DM, I guess, but personally I would have knocked V straight to Neutral for agreeing to the pact, and would be watching like a hawk for Evil acts. Wasn't he already Neutral?
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V waited(held action) for the dragon to cast a spell because he was anticipating another anti-magic field. He then used the quickened version to interrupt the spell, since all that damage would make a concentration check to keep the spell nigh-impossible. It's highly unlikely the dragon memorized THREE anti-magic fields.
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Mar 11, 2009 15:40
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He used Disjunction to counter the Anti-Magic Field; Disintegrate was used to, you know, try and disintegrate the dragon. Or his family, maybe; we won't know until we get a zoom out on and see whatever it was he targeted.
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Mar 11, 2009 15:42
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Cabbit posted:He used Disjunction to counter the Anti-Magic Field; Disintegrate was used to, you know, try and disintegrate the dragon. Or his family, maybe; we won't know until we get a zoom out on and see whatever it was he targeted.  I really hope the dragon isn't Hungarian.
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Mar 11, 2009 15:57
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Pope Guilty posted:What are the odds that V is bright enough to immediately end the Soul Splice, thereby minimizing demonic access? I think at minimum V will teleport his family to Durkon for healing. He could let the power go at that point, but I get the feeling he'll make excuses to just do one more thing while he has it.
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Mar 11, 2009 16:01
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CapnAndy posted:Disintegrate is sorta a quick death, isn't it? Maybe V's banking that the dragon will survive it. Terry Pratchett has a bit about how long it takes to kill people in at least one of his books. Evil people will draw a death out and enjoy watching their victim suffer before death, much like the dragon is doing to V's family. A truly good person will kill their victim quickly and decisively. Let's see what kind of person V is. Edit: Also love the Rolling Stones lyrics as comic titles for soul-spliced V.
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Mar 11, 2009 16:14
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IMJack posted:Terry Pratchett has a bit about how long it takes to kill people in at least one of his books. Evil people will draw a death out and enjoy watching their victim suffer before death, much like the dragon is doing to V's family. A truly good person will kill their victim quickly and decisively. Men at Arms is maybe my favorite Pratchett book, and that little bit at the end is part of it.
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Mar 11, 2009 17:05
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Cabbit posted:He used Disjunction to counter the Anti-Magic Field; Disintegrate was used to, you know, try and disintegrate the dragon. Or his family, maybe; we won't know until we get a zoom out on and see whatever it was he targeted. Ah, I didn't even see the disjunction panel, I figured he was interrupting spellcasting. Also I doubt disentigrate will kill the dragon, there is only so much damage that spell can do, probably not as much as a dragon has.
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Mar 11, 2009 17:20
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greatn posted:Also I doubt disentigrate will kill the dragon, there is only so much damage that spell can do, probably not as much as a dragon has. Disintegrate tops out at 40d6 damage (assuming V's still playing 3.5)--maximum of 240 damage. An ancient black dragon has 387 HP on average. Even if the dragon failed his save (usually unlikely, but V's got a lot of power), it's still going to be around for a few more rounds of magic blasting.
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Mar 11, 2009 17:28
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He's using Disintegrate as a callback purely for sentimental reasons. Remember, he disintegrated the dragon's kid.
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Mar 11, 2009 18:29
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rex monday posted:He's using Disintegrate as a callback purely for sentimental reasons. Remember, he disintegrated the dragon's kid. "Say 'Disintigrate' one more time, Vaarsuvius. For me."
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Mar 11, 2009 18:56
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greatn posted:It's highly unlikely the dragon memorized THREE anti-magic fields. don't dragons use magic like sorcerers in 3.5?
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terminal mehmet posted:don't dragons use magic like sorcerers in 3.5? Yeah. Although with all the power stuffed in V (including a sorcerer), he's probably got more disjunctions than the dragon has sixth-level slots, and with V quickening spells, it's a waste of the dragon's spells and turns to just throw up further antimagic fields.
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Mar 11, 2009 22:28
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A Big Dark Yak posted:Yeah. Although with all the power stuffed in V (including a sorcerer), he's probably got more disjunctions than the dragon has sixth-level slots, and with V quickening spells, it's a waste of the dragon's spells and turns to just throw up further antimagic fields. Except that it's been a scant few minutes at most since the dragon left V on the island and has no idea what she(?)'s facing currently. It's quite possible that the dragon tries it again out of desperation as the situation progresses.
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Mar 11, 2009 22:54
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Pope Guilty posted:What of it? Cabbit posted:He used Disjunction to counter the Anti-Magic Field; Disintegrate was used to, you know, try and disintegrate the dragon. Or his family, maybe; we won't know until we get a zoom out on and see whatever it was he targeted.
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Mar 11, 2009 23:16
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I think OotS is suffering from what I like to call "The Erfworld Problem" right now . . . The story is good, and all these moments should be really kickass, but there is too much time between comics, which fucks up the momentum. Frankly, I don't care if he takes a month to do it right now, I think he should draw out the remainder of this sequence and then post them all everyday for two weeks, or however long it takes. That would make it even more kickass
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This episode is pretty much making my brain go like  for the next one.
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Pyre_89 posted:I think OotS is suffering from what I like to call "The Erfworld Problem" right now . . . The story is good, and all these moments should be really kickass, but there is too much time between comics, which fucks up the momentum. Once you read Goblins, OotS's update schedule seems pretty good.
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Reacean posted:Except that it's been a scant few minutes at most since the dragon left V on the island and has no idea what she(?)'s facing currently. It's quite possible that the dragon tries it again out of desperation as the situation progresses. The dragon's almost certainly got enough ranks in Spellcraft to ID the spells V just threw as ninth- and tenth-level, and thus know that V's playing a different ballgame than before. If dragons weren't arrogant sons of bitches, I'd say the dragon would suck up the disintegration damage and teleport his rear end out of there ASAP. But they are arrogant sons of bitches, so s/he'll probably try to take on V in magical combat, which I'm hoping will give us a few panels of awesome before V wastes him/her with some crazy empowered, sonic-substituted, meteor swarm.  (Unless V is really going off the deep end and uses the newfound power for maximum cruelty instead of a big kill . . . which is probably going to happen.)
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A Big Dark Yak posted:empowered, sonic-substituted, meteor swarm. Yes, this! I just remembered that that Jephton fellow was an Archmage, and could (potentially) substitute energy types. Now that, I must say, would be kickass. Edit: It's still bugging the hell out of me that the house disapeared with the Disjunction . . . maybe V's house was a magnificent mansion . . . Pyre_89 fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Mar 12, 2009 |
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Mar 12, 2009 00:35
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I don't think the house disappeared, I think it's just off-camera and the perspective of the two wide-angle shots is inconsistent. If you look at the bottom left of the lower panel you can see the gray path that would be leading up to the front door.
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A Big Dark Yak posted:The dragon's almost certainly got enough ranks in Spellcraft to ID the spells V just threw as ninth- and tenth-level, and thus know that V's playing a different ballgame than before. If dragons weren't arrogant sons of bitches, I'd say the dragon would suck up the disintegration damage and teleport his rear end out of there ASAP. That said, the chances of the dragon's soul being imprisoned strike me as being alarmingly high.
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Dragons strike me as always, ALWAYS a cliche. Everything they do might as well be accompanied by sitting in a revolving chair stroking a white cat. On that note I can't see the dragon just breathing on V's family and will instead use his last remaining moments to question V about his newfound power, perhaps attempt to make a deal, who knows.
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Bell_ posted:Honestly, the dragon's obsession with revenge will probably direct its spells against V's family instead-the dragon will quickly realize it's no match for V but still has an opportunity to strike against the kids and V's life partner. "Quickened wall of force."
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Pope Guilty posted:What are the odds that V is bright enough to immediately end the Soul Splice, thereby minimizing demonic access? That's not how pacts with demons work. tazman posted:Sooo, will this whole Soul Splice thing affect V's alignment? Seeing how the last comic mentioned he's "getting feedback, alignment-wise" I'd say he's firmly in "Evil" territory now. That and how V looks. Good/Neutral things don't have pointed teeth.
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Mar 12, 2009 05:30
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Or red fire embroidered on their now jet-black robes.
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Or, uh, gender neutrality.
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Well, that would certainly answer two questions, at least.
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SoupyTwist posted:That's not how pacts with demons work. Pretty sure they stated he would have a hard time maintaining control of the splice. I think he can dump the splice when he wants to, they're counting on him to not do so.
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Who's to bet that V's mate will be left stuck to the tree for a while as V cooks up things to do with the newfound power of 3 epic spellcasters? Personally I'm hoping for an attempt to use those scrolls the dragon had to make the splice permanent (in an attempt to stop giving up her own soul), oh the folly of it all!
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I wouldn't be suprised if thats what the IFCC has in mind. V would have to die sometime right? And if he spent say, 500 years with those souls spliced, the IFCC would have 1500 years to play with V basically. Devil's are known for their patience for greater rewards right?
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tazman posted:I wouldn't be suprised if thats what the IFCC has in mind. V would have to die sometime right? And if he spent say, 500 years with those souls spliced, the IFCC would have 1500 years to play with V basically. Devil's are known for their patience for greater rewards right? But they want to use V to unleash/control the Snarl...?
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Mar 13, 2009 11:24
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Next strip is going to be awesome. The number of things a level 70+ wizard could do to torture a dragon is already pretty insane, and V is even more ridiculously powerful than that...
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Mar 13, 2009 17:24
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Holy poo poo, V. Look about fifteen miles behind you -- that's the line.
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