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bananasinpajamas posted:Regarding Carolla's politics, the worst thing he's ever said is that voting changes nothing. That whole "wake up in 4 years and tell me if you can tell the difference" nonsense. I actually essentially agree with him on the second part of this one. Yes, there are a lot of macro level issues decided on by the president and congress, but rarely do they ever do much effect most people's every day life (though they don't necessarily believe so).
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He has a point, but his larger point that you shouldn't give a poo poo unless it affects you personally is grating. I realize my personal life isn't likely to be radically different between Obama and McCain, but there's more to the world than me.
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What I got out of it is that voting on local propositions and initiatives is much more important than voting for president. Which I essentially agree with.
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We really need a thread for this podcast, because it's really different than Loveline..I'll see if I can't work on it later today. Regardless...George Takei on today. Involuntarily, I spouted 'oh my!' when I refreshed the podcast and saw his name pop up  Edit: and no lovely intro music!! GobiasIndustries fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Apr 7, 2009 |
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Apr 7, 2009 12:13
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Grand Fromage posted:He has a point, but his larger point that you shouldn't give a poo poo unless it affects you personally is grating. I realize my personal life isn't likely to be radically different between Obama and McCain, but there's more to the world than me. Pretty good political talk with George Takai.
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Listening to him discus the motivations for the internment was kinda painful. I could understand broaching the idea that they thought they were being pragmatic, but he really takes it to a level of insistence that just shows he isn't listening.
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UltraRed posted:Listening to him discus the motivations for the internment was kinda painful. I could understand broaching the idea that they thought they were being pragmatic, but he really takes it to a level of insistence that just shows he isn't listening. I think it was really was just a case of Adam not being able to get through his whole point, I think if he had just said something along the lines of that the point of the camps wasn't to gently caress with the Japanese as much as it was a way to keep America safe, even though it was a really lovely, and an evil act. I think both of them kinda had their points and weren't really listening, or rather, not really understanding each other's points, so it just felt awkward and dragged on really long.
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Epic Cuntpuncher posted:I think it was really was just a case of Adam not being able to get through his whole point, I think if he had just said something along the lines of that the point of the camps wasn't to gently caress with the Japanese as much as it was a way to keep America safe, even though it was a really lovely, and an evil act. I think both of them kinda had their points and weren't really listening, or rather, not really understanding each other's points, so it just felt awkward and dragged on really long.  They weren't interned to keep America safe. They didn't really suspect them of espionage (how many people interned were even suspected of espionage? How many trials were formed? Do you think they would have just let someone who they honestly suspected of espionage go when they camps were decommissioned?), or thought they would form an armed force and try to assassinate Americans/the American way of life. They were interned because they hated them for being Japanese, and they saw the Japanese as the enemy. Yes, it was hysteria that made them go so far as to form the camps, but their reason was never "keep America safe" any more than any of the Jim Crow laws had the motivation of "Protecting our women folk".
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Epic Cuntpuncher posted:I think it was really was just a case of Adam not being able to get through his whole point, I think if he had just said something along the lines of that the point of the camps wasn't to gently caress with the Japanese as much as it was a way to keep America safe, even though it was a really lovely, and an evil act. I think both of them kinda had their points and weren't really listening, or rather, not really understanding each other's points, so it just felt awkward and dragged on really long.
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Yeah, nobody wants to admit it, but America back then? Not really all that different from the Nazis. Only instead of exterminating Jews, we were interning 'Japs'. Japs that just happened to be born in America and as 'Japanese' in nationality as Anglos born in Maine. Don't think for a second that, if the war against the Japanese had continued any longer that things wouldn't have become 6 million dead Japanese-Americans.
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Alexandr posted:Yeah, nobody wants to admit it, but America back then? Not really all that different from the Nazis. Only instead of exterminating Jews, we were interning 'Japs'. Japs that just happened to be born in America and as 'Japanese' in nationality as Anglos born in Maine. Internment does not equal extermination. The internment was stupid racist bullshit that this country should be more ashamed of then they are, but there's a big leap between wrongfully jailing people and genocide. Alexandr posted:Don't think for a second that, if the war against the Japanese had continued any longer that things wouldn't have become 6 million dead Japanese-Americans. What the gently caress are you talking about? There were only a little over 100,000 people in the camps. As of a recent census there were only a little over 1,000,000 Japanese Americans in the US. There is nothing to indicate that there ever would have been an extermination. The camps were also ended 8 months before VJ day (which came much sooner than expected considering everyone expected a protracted invasion of the Japanese mainland with millions of allied casualties) so your "any longer" argument is retarded as well.
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Still, the argument the Aceman made was that, overall, the people doing the interning believed they were doing what was "good", or "necessary", when anyone who had any position of being in the know knew they were doing no such thing.
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UltraRed posted:They didn't really suspect them of espionage (how many people interned were even suspected of espionage? Did they talk about the incident in Hawaii that was used as an example of Japanese-Americans switching sides and helping the Japanese?
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Apr 7, 2009 16:40
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I didn't think Adam's point was a bad one, and eventually Takei sort of agrees with him when he finally gets it across. He saw the motivation behind it as a sense of panic. He doesn't once justify what they actually did, but the motivation behind it wasn't the same as the Nazi's rounding up Jews. The Japanese-Americans were placed in camps because they were seen as a threat to national security. As a poster previously noted. There's a difference between rounding people up in what, at the time, was considered sound logic with regards to the Pearl Harbour connection and the Germans rounding up Jews because they had all convinced themselves that the Jews were not fit to live. Hell isn't there shades of Guantanamo Bay in there? There are plenty of Arab-Americans who were just tossed in the Prison because they were perceived as a 'threat'.
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DrVenkman posted:Hell isn't there shades of Guantanamo Bay in there? There are plenty of Arab-Americans who were just tossed in the Prison because they were perceived as a 'threat'. Technically the people in Gitmo were captured in foreign lands and are not actually "Arab-Americans." You could certainly make the argument that there were some kneejerk reaction arrests post Sept. 11th of Muslim/Arab americans and foreign nationals, but I believe there was some sort of probable cause required to hold them. As an addendum to my above post I just wanted to point out that I haven't heard today's podcast yet and wasn't trying to necessarily defend any point he was making.
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BeastOfExmoor posted:Technically the people in Gitmo were captured in foreign lands and are not actually "Arab-Americans." You could certainly make the argument that there were some kneejerk reaction arrests post Sept. 11th of Muslim/Arab americans and foreign nationals, but I believe there was some sort of probable cause required to hold them. Oh yeah that's fair enough, I wasn't really trying to directly compare the 2, but we know there were just average, non-threatning people thrown in there 'just in case'. And again, Takei eventually agrees with Adam. The problem is their lines were crossed and listening to it again, it's not really to do with how Adam explains it. But Takei sort of knee jerks it (Which is understandable, as it's obviously a sensitive issue and I'm sure he's heard more than his fair share of people trying to justify it) and thinks Adam is trying to make out it wasn't an injustice. Adam doesn't try and defend it at all. But he questions the motivation behind the executive order. You could tell Adam got flustered and tried to rephrase it in a way that didn't make Takei want to slap him.
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DrVenkman posted:Oh yeah that's fair enough, I wasn't really trying to directly compare the 2, but we know there were just average, non-threatning people thrown in there 'just in case'.
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I got where they were coming from. Adam was trying to differentiate between fear and malice, and Takei's naturally very defensive. Very interesting episode, though. The Tokyo Rose story was fantastic.
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Apr 8, 2009 03:13
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Sir Liquid Jerk posted:
So I guess he is doing this out of guilt, not wanting Jimmy's brother to feel bad? Cause it is really, really terrible.
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I think that was actually the first podcast with the new theme. Many of the recent podcasts have been released out of order. I remember the day after Bobcat Goldthwait's show, Adam mentioned Bobcat would be coming on the podcast soon. It's irritating, but I guess they're trying to release certain guest shows closer to the events they're trying to plug.
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Nemo posted:I think that was actually the first podcast with the new theme. Many of the recent podcasts have been released out of order. I remember the day after Bobcat Goldthwait's show, Adam mentioned Bobcat would be coming on the podcast soon. I was thrown off by that too, it was my understanding that each day's podcast was recorded only a few hours before its release.
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The new Matt and Dave podcast is loving golden.
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exponentory posted:Do we have a photograph yet of Adam's Dad with his afro in his double laced jeans wearing his platforms? The Loveline the other day was had Adam talking about video of him climbing on the desk in the Westwood studios and stomping a thermostat in the studio. Anyone seen this?
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You know, thanks to the Loveline stream, I know waaaay too much about what was sold at Minneapolis-area sex shops circa 2001.
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Zaasakokwaan posted:The Loveline the other day was had Adam talking about video of him climbing on the desk in the Westwood studios and stomping a thermostat in the studio. Yeah it's 2001-2002 sometime. They get pissed at the thermostat and Adam breaks it and then people from the headquarters or wherever are phoning them and yelling at them.
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Bolkovr posted:You know, thanks to the Loveline stream, I know waaaay too much about what was sold at Minneapolis-area sex shops circa 2001. Those commercials crack me up. It makes it sound like some magical Sex-toy land where you can spend all day without a care in the World.
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It is fairly cool. I was there a couple of years ago and they had a giant mechanical penis with a saddle on the shaft that you could plug quarters into and ride rodeo style. Also porn and several versions of The Gerbil, which was a bit scary to behold.
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The latest podcast with Dicky Barrett is gold. The story about the Frayed Knots is pretty much the best thing I've ever heard.
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Listening to 10-26-1997 with Sugar Ray right now and I swear I'm going to kick Mark from Sugar Ray in the balls if I ever meet him. Caller: I'm infatuated with prepubescent girls and looking at everything short of actual child porn (drawings, etc). Mark: Dude, you're fine, you'll grow out of it. Don' worry about it. Caller: I smoke weed every day and drink heavily and worry I'm an alcoholic. Mark: Dude, you're fine. That's typical college stuff, you'll grow out of it.
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Daryl DBD posted:Turn on your PMs, I have a good place. That goes for anybody else, just PM me. dunno if you're still doin' this, but if you are WEH fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Nov 30, 2016 |
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Apr 14, 2009 06:38
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WEH posted:dunno if you're still doin' this, but if you are: cheetodust(at)rocketmail.com Check your e-mail!
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WEH posted:dunno if you're still doin' this, but if you are: cheetodust(at)rocketmail.com I don't understand this...I could have sworn the hint in the OP was good enough.
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Daryl DBD posted:Check your e-mail! thanks! Jubs posted:I don't understand this...I could have sworn the hint in the OP was good enough. probably the only one who didn't get it, I'm sure it's a fine hint
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Hahaha this show with Jason Calacanis started quick with something that really pisses Adam off: lovely compilments with qualifiers. It's something he's always complained about on Loveline. "I always listened to Howard Stern over you" and "You're SO much better on your podcast than radio" Adam is civil about it and thanks him, but you know he already thinks this guy is a dick. If you're gonna compliment someone, compliment them don't include all that other poo poo.
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Phone posted:Why is Calacanis on ACP? Wanted to talk to Adam about making money off the internet. In the last 3 minutes he actually makes a good pitch (advertise the products you choose) and steers Adam away from the god awful subscription plan. He's not a great guest, but you can't always get people who nail it out of the park.
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I've never heard of this guy before, but he's got some interesting stories about growing up in his dad's bar in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.
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The first 5 minutes, I thought the guy was another Leo Laporte; just a smart tech guy. Halfway through the podcast he becomes Henry Hill from Goodfellas. And while I do think Carolla hated him off the bat, once they got into their conservative circle jerk he started to warm up to him.
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