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I had a two page argument with a guy on walking basslines where he simply did not believe that you could walk a Dm7 to G7 using D - D# - E - F. Finally John Goldsby posted, saying that weird things can still make a walking bassline work.
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Hamidon posted:I had a two page argument with a guy on walking basslines where he simply did not believe that you could walk a Dm7 to G7 using D - D# - E - F. Finally John Goldsby posted, saying that weird things can still make a walking bassline work. Haha yeah technically you can walk anywhere chromatically too... doesn't mean it'll always sound right, but you can. The funniest thing I think ever saw on there was a thread saying "Paul McCartney is underrated!" Really? I'm pretty sure he gets plenty of props.
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Apr 17, 2009 15:58
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Yeah talkbass has definitely slipped. It used to be all about the best gear and the best bassists and now it's a bunch of feel-good crap about how your bass is "good enough" and how every bass has its day and poo poo. That, and people don't openly hate on Ampeg anymore.
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Apr 17, 2009 16:04
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The Jeff Berlin threads were really interesting. I'm not sure I agree with Jeff on some things (most things, even) but it was a refreshing diversion from 'name your favourite bassists, part IIIV'.
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Apr 17, 2009 16:08
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Indi86 posted:Yeah talkbass has definitely slipped. It used to be all about the best gear and the best bassists and now it's a bunch of feel-good crap about how your bass is "good enough" and how every bass has its day and poo poo. That, and people don't openly hate on Ampeg anymore. They don't let anyone openly hate on anything. I <3 ampeg tho  Hamidon posted:The Jeff Berlin threads were really interesting. I'm not sure I agree with Jeff on some things (most things, even) but it was a refreshing diversion from 'name your favourite bassists, part IIIV'. Cliff notes? I didn't feel like reading it.
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Apr 17, 2009 16:10
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Oh, not really relevant but I got to shake hands w/ my idol, George Porter Jr. last night 
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Apr 17, 2009 16:16
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Scarf posted:Cliff notes? I didn't feel like reading it. One time, Jeff Berlin posted a thread saying that he had heard that people there had problems with some things he had said and if he could help straighten out any misconceptions. It instead turned into a big Q & A session where people could pick Jeff Berlin's brain for an hour or two. He posts a new thread every couple of weeks, I think. If you go to the Bassists forum, you can see a stickied thread called "Hi from Jeff Berlin" and from there search for all his posts. Scarf posted:Oh, not really relevant but I got to shake hands w/ my idol, George Porter Jr. last night Wow! Did you instantly become funkier?
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Apr 17, 2009 16:40
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Hamidon posted:Wow! Did you instantly become funkier? You know, I like to think I'm pretty good. I can usually hold my own in most situations and get some asses moving in the audience. But holy poo poo, he definitely put me in my place. Every note he played was perfect, both in placement, duration, etc. And he played a lot of notes, but again, it was perfect. The voicing, the phrasing, everything. I hate to sound like a complete fanboy but honestly, I've yet to pick my jaw up off the floor. Also, he was playing a Lakland Bob Glaub signature P-bass  Apparently on dates that are not within driving distance of NOLA, he takes the Lakland instead of risking his Fender on the plane.edit: And yeah, I'd seen the thread, but not really being a Berlin fan, I just didn't read it
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Apr 17, 2009 16:44
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Oh and my personal favorite threads: "Hi, I've only been playing a year, here is my review of several different basses ranging in price from $200 to $2000 and I have no idea bout what objective measures by which to judge a bass. Buy the Squier it sounded way better than the Fender!"
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Apr 17, 2009 19:08
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Scarf posted:Oh and my personal favorite threads: They get off on saying their SUPER CHEAP SX BASS kills their 'friends' p. bass or jazz. EDIT: Back to bass talk, who here thinks a 36 inch scale bass is too much? I am thinking of building a sixer for F# and I want it to sound reall good.
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Apr 17, 2009 19:22
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Demolisher posted:They get off on saying their SUPER CHEAP SX BASS kills their 'friends' p. bass or jazz. I think Phil Lesh plays with a 36" now.  Well actually, I'm not sure if that's a 36" scale or not. the bridge doesn't appear to be too much farther away from the nut. Who knows tho... go for it. I'd imagine it'd give very piano-like tones.
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Apr 17, 2009 19:42
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I'm gonna go ahead and toss a TalkBass topic right here: My campus's music club basically has some incoming funding and we'd like to invest in a bass + amp so bassists don't have to carry all our stuff whenever we want to jam. I have a budget of around $1000-1200 CAD. So based on the discussion here and a friend's input, I've basically isolated a few bass choices: MIM Fender J-bass Ibanez SR700 Warwick RockBass Amp-wise: SWR Workingman 15 (local store is clearing one for $480 CAD) Ampeg BA115 Acoustic B200 I'm leaning towards those choices, in that order of preference. I did a bit of research but since I'm still a bass newbie I'd like to double check to see if these are good, relatively versatile choices.
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Apr 17, 2009 19:51
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Scarf posted:I think Phil Lesh plays with a 36" now. Thats what i'm going for. I'm probably going to go for a delano or something for the pick-up.
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Apr 17, 2009 19:55
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Jan posted:MIM Fender J-bass
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Apr 17, 2009 20:02
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I'm just now getting to a point where I'm concerned with finding the right tone for the song I'm playing along with being accurate and in harmony. I set my mid frequency to 250 Hz but am still having trouble achieving that Lakland growl I hear on the site and in videos, etc. If I turn the mids up it sounds too twangy but if I cut them and boost the bass a little it sounds a little too sludgy. I'm looking for something like the neck pickup hard rock sample with flats if I can dial it in. It sounds like a pick really helps bring it out so I am sure that's a big part of the problem. I can time alright with one but can't control it enough yet to hit it at a consistent strength. Is there anything else I should be doing to help me along in achieveing that tone?
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Apr 18, 2009 02:05
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pantsfish posted:I'm just now getting to a point where I'm concerned with finding the right tone for the song I'm playing along with being accurate and in harmony. I set my mid frequency to 250 Hz but am still having trouble achieving that Lakland growl I hear on the site and in videos, etc. If I turn the mids up it sounds too twangy but if I cut them and boost the bass a little it sounds a little too sludgy. I'm looking for something like the neck pickup hard rock sample with flats if I can dial it in. It's going to have a lot to do with your amp as well. On that Lakland vid, the guy is using an Ampeg SVT. So that's giving a lot of growl.
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Apr 18, 2009 04:25
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Jan posted:I'm gonna go ahead and toss a TalkBass topic right here: That reminds me of what SUNY Buffalo's Jam Club did when we first started. The club was designed for basically the same purpose as yours, to get musicians together to play, but with the added caveat of trying to assemble bands and play out, along with getting gigs for the bands. JAM Club managed to get the manager of the local Guitar Center to agree to give them dealer pricing on gear in return for hanging a GC banner at every show and putting a logo on all the fliers. It saved the club a big chunk of change, and allowed the club to get much closer to providing all the equipment it needed to both run jam sessions and shows.
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Apr 18, 2009 17:00
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I'm looking for a pedal/effect that will make my bass sound, well, punchy? I don't really know how else to describe it, maybe bouncy is a better description. Something that twangs a bit when it gets up high, like Duran Duran or No Doubt.
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Apr 18, 2009 18:37
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UkraineGirls posted:I'm looking for a pedal/effect that will make my bass sound, well, punchy? I don't really know how else to describe it, maybe bouncy is a better description. Something that twangs a bit when it gets up high, like Duran Duran or No Doubt. I would start with a tech 21 SansAmp if you don't have it.
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I just discovered this sub-forum, and lo and behold, the perfect thread is right on the front page. I think I am going to pick up an acoustic bass when my tax return comes in and I would love some input from you guys. On the many recommendations in this thread, I checked out Rondo Music, and saw that they carry a pretty nice looking acoustic bass . . . http://www.rondomusic.com/product1818.html Apparently, it is their Agile brand, which is supposed to be on the nicer end of their scale, and its a pretty decent price. The main concern I have is that they list it as having a 32.5" scale. I may be misunderstanding the specifications, but I thought a standard bass scale was 34". I definitely don't need a shorter scale, but I don't know if having one would be enough of a drawback to disqualify this bass. All things considered, I'd probably incline toward a standard scale unless you guys think it doesn't make an appreciable difference. The other one I was looking at was this Michael Kelly http://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/firefly.html It sure looks nice, and is also is a decent price (it looks like it usually goes for around $320). I hadn't heard of Michael Kelly before, and after looking them up it appears to be a fairly new company. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of reviews for their basses out there (aside from the ones on MusiciansFriend or the Michael Kelly website) and I was wondering if anyone had any experience with them that they could pass on. Finally I was wondering if anyone knew of an acoustic bass that I might have missed. I think the price range I'm trying to stay in is 200-350, but in the past I've been convinced to go to the "next model up," and I've usually been happy that I did so, so if someone can make a case for a nicer instrument, I'd love to hear it.
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Apr 18, 2009 23:39
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Word of caution about acoustic basses, they're awfully quiet. Like quiet enough you'd have a hard time being heard with one acoustic guitar, let alone two or more. I highly recommend you look around for a local store to try one out.
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Doomy posted:Word of caution about acoustic basses, they're awfully quiet. Like quiet enough you'd have a hard time being heard with one acoustic guitar, let alone two or more. I highly recommend you look around for a local store to try one out. Yeah, thats what I hear. Most of the time quiet should actually work out pretty well for me though, as I live in a pretty quiet condo building. I'll probably only be playing folksy country kind of stuff with my girlfriend, so I don't need it to be super loud in any event. Its something I'll keep in mind though.
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elevator music posted:Yeah, thats what I hear. Most of the time quiet should actually work out pretty well for me though, as I live in a pretty quiet condo building. I'll probably only be playing folksy country kind of stuff with my girlfriend, so I don't need it to be super loud in any event. Its something I'll keep in mind though. Strings make a surprisingly huge difference in projection and tone. My band mate just restrung after 5 months~ and it sounds alot better. Just my two.
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Apr 19, 2009 04:26
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Demolisher posted:Strings make a surprisingly huge difference in projection and tone. My band mate just restrung after 5 months~ and it sounds alot better. Just my two. Most definitely. Brighter strings will naturally be louder - especially on an acoustic - because they have louder harmonics in higher frequency ranges.
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Demolisher posted:... Plastic Snake posted:... Thanks for the replies. I feel like I've read somewhere else that strings make a big difference, so I guess this confirms that. I think the one I'm leaning toward at this point is the Michael Kelly, which comes with D’Addario strings. From what I've heard they is a pretty reputable make, but I don't know that much about bass strings to begin with, much less acoustic ones. Are there any brands or models that I should look out for that are especially bright? In any event, I'll keep the ones that come on it and at least give them a try.
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Apr 20, 2009 01:43
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As far as electric bass goes, stainless steel will be the brightest, and nickel less bright. I think there's also bronze strings for acoustic, but I don't know how those would compare. In my limited experience, I found DR highbeams to be really bright with a good low end on my p-bass.
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So I am looking into playing bass, and have pretty much narrowed down my selection to either an Ibanez GSR200 or an Ibanez Gio GSR200FM (which I can get cheaper used). So my question is: What's the difference?
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FM means flamed maple. Unsure on the Gio part. http://www.ibanez.com/BassGuitars/Series-gsr Schatten fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Apr 20, 2009 |
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Twain of Pain posted:So I am looking into playing bass, and have pretty much narrowed down my selection to either an Ibanez GSR200 or an Ibanez Gio GSR200FM (which I can get cheaper used). So my question is: What's the difference? Go with the Gio if you can find it. The Gio has a mahogany body where the regular GSR200 is made of Agathis. It also has active electronics (which is a plus for some people, a negative for others). You probably won't use it much to begin with, but it'll give you some more tonal versatility farther down the line. edit: Nevermind on the last part, apparently the GSR200 has active electronics as well. Regardless, I'd still go with the Gio.
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Scarf posted:Go with the Gio if you can find it. The Gio has a mahogany body where the regular GSR200 is made of Agathis. It also has active electronics (which is a plus for some people, a negative for others). You probably won't use it much to begin with, but it'll give you some more tonal versatility farther down the line. really pretty much any Ibanez, aside from the short-lived and completely awesome RKB, will have active electronics. on that topic, goddamn I want an RKB
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PenguinBob posted:really pretty much any Ibanez, aside from the short-lived and completely awesome RKB, will have active electronics. I could have sworn my old GSR200 was passive. But that was years and years ago.
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My accuracy and speed has gotten to the point where I'm starting to dive into a lot of songs, and I'm wondering what exactly is the best way to 'learn' a song. My ear isn't good enough to figure much out on my own, but using guitarpro is my new obsession. Does it make more sense to take every section separately and slow, or to make sense of them together? I'm just overwhelmed on how to remember anything!
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Schatten posted:Be patient on the fretless craigslist postings. They don't come up often, but when they do, they are cheaper than the regular MIM Jazz's. I've bought and sold a few over the years. The last one was an all black MIM Fretless Jazz. Played very well. Lined, which is essential for a beginning fretless player. Thanks. I ended up going with the MIM Fender Fretless Jazz. It's in great shape and I picked it up for 400 CAD. It's made me realize how sloppy my technique is but now that I have a bass I'm in love with I'm going to be practicing all the time. Anyone have any tips for mapping the fretboard notes? Right now I'm playing the major scale of each string and naming the notes outloud to associate the name with the tone. I have a few years of piano so I've had time to train my ear a little before. This is going to be fun. E:When I picked up the guitar the previous owner plugged it in and played Get On The Floor by MJ and I immediately said "I'll take it". 
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UkraineGirls posted:My accuracy and speed has gotten to the point where I'm starting to dive into a lot of songs, and I'm wondering what exactly is the best way to 'learn' a song. My ear isn't good enough to figure much out on my own, but using guitarpro is my new obsession. Does it make more sense to take every section separately and slow, or to make sense of them together? I'm just overwhelmed on how to remember anything! Really, either approach to learning a song is fine. I usually learn the defining section first (like a main riff or what have you) and then work on transitions and stuff.
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Scarf posted:I could have sworn my old GSR200 was passive. But that was years and years ago. My first bass was a gsr200 and it was definitely passive. This was about 8 years ago. Also the RKBs do rule, although I'm not really too sad I sold mine since my G&L p bass kicks the poo poo out of it.
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So glad to see the bass thread pick up in activity recently, it's great to have a bass resource that isn't TalkBass sometimes haha. Regardless, I found this post on TB that has links to a bunch of really great informative threads that's definitely worth a look through. http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6782137&postcount=3 Hope this helps somebody!
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Pegnose Pete posted:Anyone have any tips for mapping the fretboard notes? I'd suggest getting a poster with the fretboard laid out and put it somewhere where you will see it, that helped me out. I got one for free online somewhere, it says "Workshop Live" on it so I guess you'd find it there. Another thing I did was memorize a few tricks. You know that the 5th fret is the next string, so the fifth frets read across ADGC. The seventh frets are one octave up of the previous string and read BEAD across (easy enough to memorize) and the open strings of course read EADG. Know that up two strings and two frets is an octave, conversely down two strings and two frets is down an octave. Down seven frets is where the note will be on one string lower. Combining the open/fifth/seventh frets with those techniques I was able to place all of the notes on the fretboard by working backwards. With time you'll get it down and know where the notes are. Might seem kind of confusing, but it worked for me.
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Dr. John posted:I'd suggest getting a poster with the fretboard laid out and put it somewhere where you will see it, that helped me out. I got one for free online somewhere, it says "Workshop Live" on it so I guess you'd find it there.
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So I'm looking toward getting my third bass right now. I currently have an Ibanez GSR200 and an Ocean TB75. The bass that really jumped out at me is the Ibanez JTKB200. I've heard some of it and it sounds very similar to my friend's Thunderbird IV with a bit warmer tone. Can anyone tell me anything about it?
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Bob Shabazz posted:So I'm looking toward getting my third bass right now. I currently have an Ibanez GSR200 and an Ocean TB75. The bass that really jumped out at me is the Ibanez JTKB200. I've heard some of it and it sounds very similar to my friend's Thunderbird IV with a bit warmer tone. Can anyone tell me anything about it? That's the Jet King right? I played one in Guitar Center and nearly walked out the door with it. It could have just been the setup they did on it, but it just played effortlessly for me. The neck felt really good, nice and smooth, satin finish on the back. Having owned an old Epi T-bird, I can agree that the tone is somewhat T-birdish, but not quite as much balls to it. Granted you can get some great rock tones out of the Jet King, but I think it's a little more versatile in that you can get a slightly cleaner sound out of it as well. I'd say pull the trigger, I'm still tempted to get one... if only I didn't have like 5 other basses I want ahead of it.
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