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I just played some GO on the Internet! Haven't played for a while, but I still remembered the rules which is a plus, and everyone was very nice to me, even letting me keep a group or two alive. More people need to start playing so I can have a chance at winning.
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Any tips on helping my ragtag Go club defeat the mightiest dans in America? We don't have any montages or Emilio Estevez, just 10-17 players showing up twice a month at a game shop averaging about 20kyu.
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Apr 17, 2009 18:16
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Triped posted:Any tips on helping my ragtag Go club defeat the mightiest dans in America? We don't have any montages or Emilio Estevez, just 10-17 players showing up twice a month at a game shop averaging about 20kyu. get on kgs and find some relatively high ranked pubbie human being to help you somehow. I would bet that sort of teaching situation is literally the wet dream of some mid-dans. Normally I would be really wary of soliciting a pubbie's help with anything but you can't fake a dan rank; it takes a lot of time and effort and you have to know an awful lot of poo poo about go to carry one. Alternatively you can write the AGA (they will help you start an organized club, but they will not do much else for you if you don't live in california) or you personally could come to our room on kgs along with whatever of your friends are cool and you could hang out and learn go there. If you guys are all around 20 kyu, probably all you really need is someone to get about ten stones higher who can teach the rest. Most likely you won't all move up as a group, you'll just be stuck together. I'd beware of anyone who was only a few ranks higher than you who wanted to teach, since that probably means they are too dumb to improve and they will teach you a bunch of crap. At the low ranks, you can gain 3-4 stones a month with a little effort and it's pretty rare to just find someone who is currently at 15k, almost as hard as it is to find a boyfriend-free girl.
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Apr 17, 2009 18:43
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Under 15 posted:it's pretty rare to just find someone who is currently at 15k, almost as hard as it is to find a boyfriend-free girl. Quote for truth. But everything Under 15 said is true. The worst thing you guys can do is just play each other over and over. You won't really learn much from each other because you're not being put into new situations and if you are no one knows how to grow from them. Come join the goon team.
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Apr 17, 2009 18:53
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Under 15 posted:get on kgs and find some relatively high ranked pubbie human being to help you somehow. I would bet that sort of teaching situation is literally the wet dream of some mid-dans. Normally I would be really wary of soliciting a pubbie's help with anything but you can't fake a dan rank; it takes a lot of time and effort and you have to know an awful lot of poo poo about go to carry one. Blendy posted:Quote for truth. But everything Under 15 said is true. The worst thing you guys can do is just play each other over and over. You won't really learn much from each other because you're not being put into new situations and if you are no one knows how to grow from them. Come join the goon team. Thanks for the advice, guys. The situation's a little better (or worse) than you're thinking - we have a 7 and a 12 at the club, a few 18-22, and some truly awful players. So there's some teaching going on, but we could really use dan help. We're an official AGA chapter (with three official members), but all of their "help" costs money for us in IL, like you said. I'll work on getting them to play on KGS. Some of them probably just don't know how easy it is.
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Apr 17, 2009 19:34
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With a 7k and a 12k that's not so bad. I'm 12k on KGS and I like to help out the 18+ kyus. Getting on KGS is still a great idea since diversity is a important part of learning. What part of IL are you guys in? I'm moving to Chicago soon and I've been looking/hoping to join a club.
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Apr 17, 2009 19:42
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Blendy posted:With a 7k and a 12k that's not so bad. I'm 12k on KGS and I like to help out the 18+ kyus. Getting on KGS is still a great idea since diversity is a important part of learning. We're probably too far from Chicago for you, but email triped . sa @ gmail dot com if you like.
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Apr 17, 2009 19:53
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everyone should play on some kind of internet service, if not KGS than IGS or something. The amount of other players you encounter is invaluable.
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Apr 17, 2009 22:28
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Does anyone here play on IGS? I haven't but when I started looking into online go most information I found suggested KGS was a better place for a few reasons. Mainly larger player base, stronger player base, and ease of use for things like reviewing.
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Apr 17, 2009 22:31
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I tried IGS a few years back when I first started playing Go and didn't really like it, KGS was much more user friendly and had a better player base for beginners. It used to be generally accepted that IGS had stronger players at the high dans, but I don't know if this is true any more - I think nowadays the really strong players play on Tygem.
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Apr 17, 2009 22:35
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I think the only reason anyone uses IGS is because "all the good players use IGS" but who knows if that's true. IGS is full of legends about pro players going on under pseudonyms, but it's anyone guess if that still happens. It does have a neat 3d client though.
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Apr 17, 2009 22:48
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Sensei's Library posted:Rank Comparison I found this when searching about Tygem. The Sensei's library page says it was last updated the 6th, but I'm not sure if that means the rank comparisons are up to date. Also from 2007 http://go-news.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-strong-are-tygem-stars.html
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Apr 17, 2009 22:54
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Just thought I'd mention this here. A strong Go player died today. http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/43380732.html quote:A 19-year-old man died after he fell asleep and crashed into a eucalyptus tree early Tuesday. RIP Landon Brownell, 7d. You were pretty cool.
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Apr 22, 2009 03:22
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I'm in the room as we speak - at least, I think this is the room. Anyone else around or am I really in an Anime room? edit - should have known better  ceaselessfuture fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Apr 22, 2009 |
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Apr 22, 2009 18:23
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thats amateur 7d right because otherwise holy lord I always think about go ranks first when I hear someone has died.
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Apr 22, 2009 22:45
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Urban Renewal posted:thats amateur 7d right because otherwise holy lord I found this https://www.gocongress08.org/list.php?o=faladdracasa it's from the 2008 Go Congress. It doesn't seem to say who is pro and who isn't but seeing as there are only 17 pros there I'm going to guess he wasn't a pro. When I googled him I couldn't find anything that said he was pro. Still 7d amateur at his age is impressive.
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Urban Renewal posted:thats amateur 7d right because otherwise holy lord Yeah, amateur. But he's still ridiculously strong.
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Apr 23, 2009 01:28
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Found "Teach Yourself Go" (Charles Mathews) for under $2 on Half.com, so I ordered that and another Go book (Book of Go, by William Cobb) that the guy happened to have, which seemed cheap everywhere. I played through a couple of the Javascript tutorials, I found I have a hard time visualizing the shapes but I guess that's normal for a new player. Anyways, I need another couple of exercises and probably a bit more reading before I feel qualified for my initial rear end-kicking. Anyway we could get an updated OP with book lists, links to tutorials/etc?
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Pompous Rhombus posted:Anyway we could get an updated OP with book lists, links to tutorials/etc? There are a ton of go books out there. If you go to keishido's page you can get a good description of what a lot of people would say are the core books. Also for some online stuff search Go at scribd.com.
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Pompous Rhombus posted:Found "Teach Yourself Go" (Charles Mathews) for under $2 on Half.com, so I ordered that and another Go book (Book of Go, by William Cobb) that the guy happened to have, which seemed cheap everywhere. I played through a couple of the Javascript tutorials, I found I have a hard time visualizing the shapes but I guess that's normal for a new player. Anyways, I need another couple of exercises and probably a bit more reading before I feel qualified for my initial rear end-kicking. The core books for a new player are basically just Lessons in the Fundamentals of Go, which is an all-around book, then books 3 and 5 in the Elementary Go series, Tesuji (a tactical book) and Attack and Defense (a strategic one.) Between those three and a lot of playing it's more than enough to get you to dan rank. As for online tutorials, really there isn't anything that will be worth looking at after day one. Maybe we can have Woss update the OP with that stuff, but in all honesty there isn't much to say on the topic of books since they are mostly just there for when you get stuck.
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Apr 23, 2009 06:04
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Books are great and all, but for advancing in rank, theres nothing quite like playing a couple games, or 100 or 200.
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Emo Rodeo posted:Books are great and all, but for advancing in rank, theres nothing quite like playing a couple games, or 100 or 200. I have mixed feelings about this statement. From 20-14kyu I did nothing but play games and review, but then I took a month off and I just did problems and read some chapters out of Fundamentals and I jumped from 14k to near 11k. So I think it can be both ways. Also I think the higher your rank the more benefit you get from reading. I dunno, just how I feel.
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Apr 27, 2009 05:18
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The guy who runs my Go club sat down with me and we played out/talked about the opening for like an hour because everyone else was late... the next game I played that night, "it seemed like I had gotten three stones better." So playing vs. reading, I would say that a combination of both would work. If you're reading books about it, and you make sure to really ABSORB everything and understand why a certain piece of advice is the way it is, you'll get leaps and bounds better.
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Apr 27, 2009 07:45
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The best way to do it is just to read through books slowly and play a lot of games as you do, trying to think in terms of what you're learning in the book and attempting to apply it. I'm 8k and have been there for months so obviously you should follow my advice.
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Apr 28, 2009 01:37
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Just made it to 11k and I think I might have made a 13k cry.
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Apr 28, 2009 05:21
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 Click here for the full 640x480 image. Double post woot for new goban. It just arrived in the mail. Only $25 for shin-kaya!
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Apr 30, 2009 22:25
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Blendy posted:
post a picture of you smashing your head through it from that perspective
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Apr 30, 2009 22:30
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Under 15 posted:post a picture of you smashing your head through it from that perspective By picture I'm sure you mean sweet animated gif. Blendy fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Apr 30, 2009 |
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Apr 30, 2009 23:13
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that is a straight up lovely pic dogg gotta say
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Yeah sorry it was taken on my iSight right before I had to go to work and it was dark in my living room  I'll take a better one sometime.Edit: So my iSight is still taking crappy pictures but here is a pic of the board with my 'stones.' I'm using it to solve problems cause i don't have anyone to play with  Click here for the full 640x480 image. Blendy fucked around with this message at 07:45 on May 3, 2009 |
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May 1, 2009 07:03
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That looks like a decent board, it deserves to have some nice stones to be friends with
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May 3, 2009 20:33
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Urban Renewal posted:That looks like a decent board, it deserves to have some nice stones to be friends with Fancy stones would be nice, but as I am poor I can only afford these. But that being said I like the feel of these stones and I like how easy the are to use on the board. In person the look isn't so awful. Edit- also more than nicer stones I would like some wood bowls instead of the weird plastic things they came in Blendy fucked around with this message at 21:46 on May 3, 2009 |
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May 3, 2009 21:29
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Blendy posted:Fancy stones would be nice, but as I am poor I can only afford these. But that being said I like the feel of these stones and I like how easy the are to use on the board. In person the look isn't so awful. Keep them in cigar boxes until they pick up that stogie scent for a touch of class. That's some fucken wabi-sabi right there
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May 4, 2009 10:02
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If they're going to smell anything like the cigars my friend's smoked at the last wedding I went to then I'll pass. But now I'm trying to think of other manly things I can use to scent the stones. Gunpowder?
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May 4, 2009 16:50
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I am very sad that you haven't moved yet Woss. Also I haven't seen you in a long time (get on KGS). <3
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May 4, 2009 17:50
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put them in the hollowed out skulls of defeated go champions if you can't actually defeat the champions at go, try knife fighting
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May 4, 2009 22:39
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loving hell I was in the middle of a good game and KGS went down I cannot express my rage
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May 4, 2009 23:11
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Team Go Sluts strikes again. This dude from Brazil just got his mind blown. ft: very cool i saw ur photo!!!! ft: =D blendy: Haha that's not my photo blendy: I am a guy ft: come ooooon....AHBUHGAHSUAHUSHAUSHUAHSUAHUS blendy: haha ft: really!?!??!!??! ft: haushuashuashuhaushuashuas ft: ok..... blendy: Yes ft: is that ur girlfriend?!?!? blendy: Ha no, I just found it online. I'm part of a go group that puts girl's pictures in our profiles ft: HUAHUHUASHUAHSUHAUSHUAHSUHAUSHUASHUAHSUHAUSHUAHSUHAUSHUASHUASHUAHSUHAUSHUASHUHUSHUAHSUHASUHUAS
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If wossname doesn't return to KGS to play go by the time I reach shodan, it will prove his teaching is nothing but poison 
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ITGO: SHUASHUASHUASHUASHUAHSHASUUSUAS
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