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bison wings posted:
Probably best to have it rehosted and save giantitp.com some bandwidth anyway.
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CK07 posted:What checks do you make vs. pickpocketing? It's been way too long since I've played... SRD posted:If the character tries to take something from another creature, the character must make a skill check against DC 20. The opponent makes a Spot check to detect the attempt. The opponent detects the attempt if her check result beats the character's check result, regardless of whether the character got the item. So, to steal a small bag of diamonds is a DC 20 check. If a DC 20 is made, the thief gets the item. The only thing the victim can do is notice the theft, not stop it. This lead to an old CO character, the Stripper, a thief who could use spring attack to move up 15 feet, hit someone with a greatsword, steal every magic item besides armor, weapon, and shield, drop a cursed Scarab of Fleshgrinding down their pants, jam boots of tripping on their feet, and then spring 15 feet back as a full action. 
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Apr 30, 2009 05:59
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Mystic Mongol posted:This lead to an old CO character, the Stripper, a thief who could use spring attack to move up 15 feet, hit someone with a greatsword, steal every magic item besides armor, weapon, and shield, drop a cursed Scarab of Fleshgrinding down their pants, jam boots of tripping on their feet, and then spring 15 feet back as a full action. I'd allow half of that maybe and if my thief character pointed at the books and kept insisting i'd have a dragon eat him.
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Apr 30, 2009 10:16
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It's worth mentioning that Sleight of Hand checks are a standard action, unless you take a -20 penalty to make it a free action. Why that never got errata'd into a swift action is beyond me.
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Apr 30, 2009 13:55
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So I'm hearing about these book-thingie supplementals. Are they available online anywhere? I can't find it, and nothing about it - and I very much doubt that there's any store in my country with them in supply.
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Apr 30, 2009 14:09
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Cabbit posted:It's worth mentioning that Sleight of Hand checks are a standard action, unless you take a -20 penalty to make it a free action. Why that never got errata'd into a swift action is beyond me. It was a level 9 build, if I remember correctly, and not only was it taking the -20, the build had some obscure feat that let you take 10 for pickpocket at any time. Also, they were too busy coming up with monsters like the sarrukh to bother fixing their old stuff.
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V. Illych L. posted:So I'm hearing about these book-thingie supplementals. Are they available online anywhere? I can't find it, and nothing about it - and I very much doubt that there's any store in my country with them in supply. Mostly, no. As far as 3E and 3.5E goes, you can get the System Rules Document (SRD) from various sources, the best of which is d20srd.org. The material included in the SRD is the core rulebooks minus tables for character progression (that is, the level/XP table from the PHB and the challenge rating/XP table from the DMG) and whatever monsters are WOTC's intellectual property; stuff like Mind Flayers and Beholders. There are two additional books that were released as OGL by WOTC, which are Unearthed Arcana, which is all kinds of variant rules, and the Expanded Psionics Handbook, which is psionics. Everything else is only available in book form. D&D books are available pretty well anywhere--try retailers like Amazon.
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Apr 30, 2009 18:35
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Spazmo posted:Mostly, no. As far as 3E and 3.5E goes, you can get the System Rules Document (SRD) from various sources, the best of which is d20srd.org. The material included in the SRD is the core rulebooks minus tables for character progression (that is, the level/XP table from the PHB and the challenge rating/XP table from the DMG) and whatever monsters are WOTC's intellectual property; stuff like Mind Flayers and Beholders. I'm pretty sure he's talking about the OotS books.
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Apr 30, 2009 18:48
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Idran posted:I'm pretty sure he's talking about the OotS books. Well, if he is, then no, they're not (legally) available anywhere online. Unless you count ordering the books online, that is.
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Apr 30, 2009 18:51
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Idran posted:I'm pretty sure he's talking about the OotS books. That... makes a lot of sense. I got tripped up by the rules discussion.
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V. Illych L. posted:So I'm hearing about these book-thingie supplementals. Are they available online anywhere? I can't find it, and nothing about it - and I very much doubt that there's any store in my country with them in supply. So far the best place I've seen for them was comic book stores. Surprisingly, our local nerd shop doesn't have them (the owner is far too busy with Magic the Gathering and nerd-raging against White Wolf and Games Workshop stuff, it appears).
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May 1, 2009 03:26
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If supporting your local comic/game store isn't an option, APE Games is the official retailer for the books and the game
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May 1, 2009 03:31
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Right, many thanks. Um, which of these are worth getting?
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May 1, 2009 14:04
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On the Origin of PC's and Start of Darkness are the supplemental ones. The other three are essentially the online comic but with some added content like comments or extra strips.
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May 1, 2009 14:38
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Yikes, it updated again. The wait to the next comic after this will be agonizing!
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May 3, 2009 04:53
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The server is hammered right now: Click here for the full 707x939 image.
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May 3, 2009 05:18
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Seeing how the site goes down more often than a baby giraffe with a skateboard under each foot... Edit: gently caress, beaten.
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May 3, 2009 05:19
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so, Xykon isn't a lvl 50 character, but he's not going to lose this fight. I wonder if the cloister spell effect will purge the soul splice or something like that.
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May 3, 2009 06:03
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Remember, V lost the most powerful member of the splice and has been slinging high level spells left and right. Thus V has a severely reduced caster level and probably is running low on higher-level spells. Xykon is still probably mostly charged. There's also the possibility that Xykon may have already left Azure City.
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May 3, 2009 06:07
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bison wings posted:so, Xykon isn't a lvl 50 character, but he's not going to lose this fight. I wonder if the cloister spell effect will purge the soul splice or something like that. Considering Xykon is himself an epic level sorcerer, has an army of cannon fodder at his fingertips, holds two very powerful evil divine casters at his beck and call, and basically has the reigns of the series Deus Ex Machina, I can't really see that even needing to happen. V is deep within the throes of some pretty deific hubris here, on top of all that, so.. yeah, this won't end well at all for her.
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May 3, 2009 06:19
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We still haven't seen the last soul do a big, awesome spell yet. While I have no doubt this won't matter and Xykon will still gently caress V up something hard, its going to be sweet, and I cannot wait!
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May 3, 2009 06:54
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Assuming that V breaks through cloister, which is a big assuming, he still has access to 3 very powerful spells. In his surprise round he burns a Time Stop. This buys him a minimum of 2 rounds. 1st round of timestop, a delayed blast fireball, set to detonate the beginning of the round that timestop ends. 2nd Round of timestop, Force Cage around Xykon, she can do this because area spells are allowed. Finally he should move directly next to the force cage. All rounds in between, should she have any more, he throws delayed blast fireballs into the cage. V's damage output should be ludicrously high. If this enough to destroy Xykon, she then burns a location spell to find Red Cloak and the phylactery, Red Cloak should pose no challenge. If it is not he must then dismiss his force cage on her turn, and then hit Xykon with Imprisonment. Odds are a sorcerer did not pick freedom as a spell choice.
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May 3, 2009 11:07
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Judging by the souls' reactions, this is what the fiends had intended to happen all along. I guess we're about to find out what happens when an unblockable teleport meets an impenetrable barrier.
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May 3, 2009 12:03
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Unless Xykon and Redcloak have already moved out to Girard's Gate. Thpppbt, another soul gone!
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May 3, 2009 12:57
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Red_Mage posted:Assuming that V breaks through cloister, which is a big assuming, he still has access to 3 very powerful spells. Probably should do different types of damage instead of just fireballs in case of resistances or protections. I wonder how any Protection from Good/Neutral/Evil spells Xykon has up will react to V's condition. (PLEASE nobody answer that if it brings up the alignment argument again...)
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May 4, 2009 05:13
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ahahah this thread reminds me of OOtS after Sage Advice, as it's reaching Williams-Cook levels of rules lawyering. Dragon magazine featured some pretty loving good comics.
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May 4, 2009 10:42
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CK07 posted:Probably should do different types of damage instead of just fireballs in case of resistances or protections. I wonder how any Protection from Good/Neutral/Evil spells Xykon has up will react to V's condition. (PLEASE nobody answer that if it brings up the alignment argument again...) I don't see how there even is any argument. He is clearly still whatever alignment he was before. He hasn't done anything evil.
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Half-dragons and such aren't necessarily of any particular alignment, even if they have black dragon ancestry. So if Rich is playing this sensibly, V probably pulled the Ark-of-the-Covenant on a lot of Good and Neutral individuals.
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Amused Frog posted:I don't see how there even is any argument. He is clearly still whatever alignment he was before. He hasn't done anything evil. no no no no no Halloween Jack posted:Half-dragons and such aren't necessarily of any particular alignment, even if they have black dragon ancestry. So if Rich is playing this sensibly, V probably pulled the Ark-of-the-Covenant on a lot of Good and Neutral individuals. NO NO NO NO NO Forget I asked. For the sake of the thread.
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May 4, 2009 18:26
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/fan flames hey guys, do you think the Snarl is Chaotic Neutral or Chaotic Evil?
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He's obviously Lawful Good because he follows orders and is nice to people. duh
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bison wings posted:/fan flames Oh, that's a lame flame-fanning post. Hey guys. Redcloak's not really evil, because he's just doing it for his people and blah de bloo.
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There's this little-remembered clause to Protection From spells you guys are ignoring in order to start up the whole alignment terror thing again: all of them provide a barrier to Outsiders. Outsiders cannot touch the protected individual. I don't think that will be a factor. Protection from * doesn't prevent ranged attacks or casting (with the exception of mind-affecting spells and possession). Spell resistance also allows the Outsider to ignore the protection as well, and didn't V cast some kind of resistance spell while dealing with the dragon? I like the idea of the unblockable teleport/impenetrable barrier conundrum, especially since it's so close to a known tear in the fabric of reality. There's definite kablooey potential there.
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bartolimu posted:I like the idea of the unblockable teleport/impenetrable barrier conundrum, especially since it's so close to a known tear in the fabric of reality. There's definite kablooey potential there. ...and I just realized how Rich is gonna manage to keep the party separate for another couple years. 
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rotinaj posted:Hey guys. Redcloak's not really evil, because he's just doing it for his people and blah de bloo. That'd sound ridiculous if every single alignment argument ever didn't have at least one guy who pretty much goes with exactly that. "Shouldn't protection from evil give Killfuck Babyeater McRapenburn a bonus to AC against the paladin? After all, from Killfuck's point of view, the paladin is evil!" Alignment arguments are impossible to parody like that--there isn't a fake argument you can make in them that someone hasn't already done in all seriousness.
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May 5, 2009 00:57
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I want to play a character named Killfuck Babyeater McRapenburn now.
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May 5, 2009 01:46
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bison wings posted:I want to play a character named Killfuck Babyeater McRapenburn now. Only if he's a Paladin.
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bartolimu posted:There's this little-remembered clause to Protection From spells you guys are ignoring in order to start up the whole alignment terror thing again: all of them provide a barrier to Outsiders. Outsiders cannot touch the protected individual. No, they provide a barrier to summoned creatures.
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rotinaj posted:Oh, that's a lame flame-fanning post. I would agree with this entirely. Redcloak is probably closer to good than any of the central characters, with the possible exception of Varsuvius, who seems to be close to actually becoming an avatar of pure good that a Paladin could only dream of being.
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Amused Frog posted:I would agree with this entirely. Redcloak is probably closer to good than any of the central characters, with the possible exception of Varsuvius, who seems to be close to actually becoming an avatar of pure good that a Paladin could only dream of being. Miko must be so jealous.
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