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Halloween Jack posted:Half-dragons and such aren't necessarily of any particular alignment, even if they have black dragon ancestry. So if Rich is playing this sensibly, V probably pulled the Ark-of-the-Covenant on a lot of Good and Neutral individuals. That's not true. Half-dragon alignment is listed as "Same as the dragon variety." So no, they're always Chaotic Evil. ...Well I'm just SAYING.
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It's a good thing DnD has alignments, I don't know what else we'd fill this thread with between updates.
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Ashcans posted:It's a good thing DnD has alignments, I don't know what else we'd fill this thread with between updates. If I ever make an RPG, I'm going to make sure it has a subjective complex badly-defined four-axis alignment system. "Yeah, well, I'm Lawful Selfish Atheist Neutral! My alignment requires that I behave that way!" "You're completely misinterpreting the rulebook. That behavior is what a Neutral Corporate Buddhist Neutral character would do. Don't you even understand what Atheist means?" "Hey guys, if I use Smite Heretic, but I'm Polytheistic, does it work on demons?"
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No I think it's better to go the other way, have an RPG that just cleanly cuts everything into Good and Evil.
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oobey posted:No I think it's better to go the other way, have an RPG that just cleanly cuts everything into Good and Evil. Cleanly and inconsistently.
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ZorbaTHut posted:If I ever make an RPG, I'm going to make sure it has a subjective complex badly-defined four-axis alignment system. I think I would play this game.
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The second edition would double the alignment axis with optional 'Very' modifiers, in both directions.
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ZorbaTHut posted:If I ever make an RPG, I'm going to make sure it has a subjective complex badly-defined four-axis alignment system. Were it the 1980s, you could be writing for Palladium right now.
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ZorbaTHut posted:If I ever make an RPG, I'm going to make sure it has a subjective complex badly-defined four-axis alignment system. Have you considered RIFTS?
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oobey posted:The second edition would double the alignment axis with optional 'Very' modifiers, in both directions. I'm having a hard time deciding whether I'd want these axes to be a collection of nonlinear options or points on a line. I'm really loving the idea of the Religion line though. Atheist -- Agnostic -- Neutral -- Buddhist -- Christian -- Polytheistic Because, obviously, the more religious you are, the more gods you believe in, right?  If I had a ton of spare time I'd write up the rules for this game as a subtle elaborate two-hundred-page playable troll.
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ZorbaTHut posted:I'm having a hard time deciding whether I'd want these axes to be a collection of nonlinear options or points on a line.
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ZorbaTHut posted:If I ever make an RPG, I'm going to make sure it has a subjective complex badly-defined four-axis alignment system. 
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Clearly that depends on whether demons (both demons in general and the particular demons you want to smite) are part of the pantheon you worship. Yeah, this could be awesome.
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Okay what are the classes for our new game and who's going to do the themed web comic
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May 6, 2009 02:15
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The classes have to have an oversaturated category while neglecting the others. For example: Combat classes: - Street brawler - Archer - Knight - Dragon hunter - Captain - Ninja - Savage - Griffin tamer Magic classes: - Wizard Support classes: - Healer - Manservant
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KOraithER posted:The classes have to have an oversaturated category while neglecting the others. For example: In addition to Street Brawler, we need Martial Artist. And Monk. Also, either every class needs access to alignment based abilities, or we need some kind of Holy Knight to have all the abilities like Smite Heathen, Smite Heretic, Smite Adulterer, Smite Someone Who Works on Holy Days, and so on. I kinda like the idea of a class whose every attack is some kind of smite, actually. And none of them work unless the person you're trying to smite actually fits into that category for your (subjective) belief system.
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I like the Warhammer way of dividing up the universe into "Beings which deserve to die" and "Us".
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Sefer posted:I kinda like the idea of a class whose every attack is some kind of smite, actually. And none of them work unless the person you're trying to smite actually fits into that category for your (subjective) belief system. The most powerful class will be Paladin With Multiple Personality Disorder.
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Pope Guilty posted:I like the Warhammer way of dividing up the universe into "Beings which deserve to die" and "Us". Actually, most of Us deserve to die too. In His name, if we're cool enough.
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Having insomnia gets a little better when there's a new strip:
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You know, today's comic seems to be pretty strong evidence for the Monster being a piece of the Snarl, if you think about it.
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Holy poo poo I never even considered that.
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It's not. Rich has stated previously that it's not a monster of his own creation, but one that actually exists in DnD. Also, in Start of Darkness the hunters who find him in the rainforest know what kind of creature he is.
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I'm confused as to where they can be where they can freely converse but still see V arrive.
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GigaPeon posted:I'm confused as to where they can be where they can freely converse but still see V arrive. In a comic strip.
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do you guys think the monster in the darkness is Evil since he's using black Go pieces?
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Can someone dig up the last time we saw "What's-his-face-ninja" and Monster in the Dark talking? Been a while. Don't even remember who that guy is or how he got captured.
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bison wings posted:do you guys think the monster in the darkness is Evil since he's using black Go pieces? He's pretty obviously chaotic stupid. Werner-Boogle posted:Can someone dig up the last time we saw "What's-his-face-ninja" and Monster in the Dark talking? Been a while. Don't even remember who that guy is or how he got captured. He was the guy Xykon froze right before he seized the Azure throne. Dude was paralyzed for quite a while as "Mr Stiffly"
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Werner-Boogle posted:Can someone dig up the last time we saw "What's-his-face-ninja" and Monster in the Dark talking? Been a while. Don't even remember who that guy is or how he got captured. He's a Paladin of the Azure Guard, not a ninja. His name is O'Chul, and Xykon has been keeping him alive to entertain himself. You don't remember when they dropped into an acid pit filled with firesharks (or something) with Xykon and Redcloak taking bets on whether he could make it out? Dude has probably leveled three times or something, if there is any justice in the world! It's a shame that he's going to lose his Paladin status for consorting with evil creatures! 
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I think trying to turn an agent of evil toward the light is a perfectly paladin thing to do.
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no see, the creature in the darkness is evil (small e) so that doing evil things is Good (capital G) to him. By getting the creature to do good things would be Evil, so O'Chul is doing Evil. Since he's not losing his abilities, I think he switched to a Blackguard in the interim time that we've been watching V.
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bison wings posted:no see, the creature in the darkness is evil (small e) so that doing evil things is Good (capital G) to him. This further supports my hypothesis that Xykon is really the good guy in all of this
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Noonsaliwah posted:It's not. Rich has stated previously that it's not a monster of his own creation, but one that actually exists in DnD. Also, in Start of Darkness the hunters who find him in the rainforest know what kind of creature he is. I was thinking a tarrasque after today's. Big. Eats a lot. Dumb (though technically sentient at Int 3), but not really evil. It mostly fits. Granted, the tarrasque can't actually speak, but maybe there's a way around that?  e: VVV too slow
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I'm pretty sure the monster is a baby Tarrasque. All the stats seem to fit, including the low intelligence and wisdom, as well as its father being huge and eating a lot.
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Brannock posted:I'm pretty sure the monster is a baby Tarrasque. All the stats seem to fit, including the low intelligence and wisdom, as well as its father being huge and eating a lot. Pretty much. And that poo poo would be terrifying to fight against.
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Seftir posted:Pretty much. And that poo poo would be terrifying to fight against. Speaking of which, wouldn't this be a perfect time for Xykon to let loose the Monster, with V right there?
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Given how resistant to magic the average Tarrasque is it wouldn't be the worst idea, but epic magic trumps pretty much anything so I doubt even a full grown tarrasque (isn't there meant to be only one, ever?) could slow down V at the moment. No more than a fully grown dragon would at any rate.
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Isn't V sufficiently high-level to automatically overcome a tarrasque's spell resistance anyway (He's still rocking two level 20+ casters, with their levels added to his own)? Plus he could always just disintegrate the floor, use a wall of force or do one of any number of other things.
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A Big Dark Yak posted:Granted, the tarrasque can't actually speak, but maybe there's a way around that? It's been acknowledged (in Start of Darkness, I think) that the Monster speaking is unusual.
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Brannock posted:I'm pretty sure the monster is a baby Tarrasque. All the stats seem to fit, including the low intelligence and wisdom, as well as its father being huge and eating a lot. I think the monster's "dad" was the Tarrasque, but I also think the monster would latch on to another creature as a daddy-figure, like a baby duck imprinting on a "mother" of a different species.
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