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Almond Crunch
Oct 29, 2005
God-damn tasty..
this might be stupid because i get the feeling that they're already a stupidly easy band to get into, but where should i start with death cab for cutie?

and where should i start with pavement?

Almond Crunch fucked around with this message at 02:21 on May 7, 2009

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Organic Robot
Dec 26, 2007

Fig 1.
"Blueboy sees a moth."

Almond Crunch posted:

this might be stupid because i get the feeling that they're already a stupidly easy band to get into, but where should i start with death cab for cutie?

and where should i start with pavement?

I would go with either Wowee Zowee or Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain. Slanted and Enchanted is their best, but it takes some getting used to.

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

With Pavement it's best just to go in order with their LPs, starting with Slanted and Enchanted.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Almond Crunch posted:

this might be stupid because i get the feeling that they're already a stupidly easy band to get into, but where should i start with death cab for cutie?

and where should i start with pavement?

For Death Cab, I'd say We Have The Facts And We're Voting Yes or Transatlantacism.

For Pavement, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain.

Wild Cantaloupe
Jun 16, 2008

:420:fly like paper, get high like planes:420:

Almond Crunch posted:

this might be stupid because i get the feeling that they're already a stupidly easy band to get into, but where should i start with death cab for cutie?

and where should i start with pavement?

Well, I don't know about death cab for cutie but for Pavement most people seem to say that their two essential albums are "Slanted & Enchanted", their first album, and "Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain", their second album.

The songs in Slanted and Enchanted are lower fidelity, shorter, and have a bit more of a punk-rock feel to them.

The songs on Crooked Rain have a bit more of a "classic rock" feel, and are longer, I guess.

It really depends which type of thing you listen to. I got into them through Slanted & Enchanted, and it worked fine for me.

Fors Yard
Feb 15, 2008

Aside from getting shot in the head, David, what have you done with yourself?

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

For Death Cab, I'd say We Have The Facts And We're Voting Yes or Transatlantacism.

These two, but also The Photo Album.

Bulk Vanderhuge
May 2, 2009

womp womp womp womp

A Violence Gang posted:

Where to begin with Neko Case? Listening to what's available on last.fm but most of the full tracks that are available are from The Tigers Have Spoken and I'm not big on live albums generally so I'd like to start elsewhere.

I understand some of her work is more easily classified as alt-country and other parts are less so. I'm a fan of alt- and classic country (digging her take on "Wayfaring Stranger", though as far as recent versions go, I'd probably take Blanche's off If We Can't Trust the Doctors). Also, she's part of the New Pornographers, right? Didn't really care for what I heard of their stuff, though I haven't heard much. So based on those preferences, what should I start with?

Super old post but more Neko is always a good thing. Her early stuff is a bit honky tonk and pretty traditional in terms of song structure, instrumentals, and vocal style. With subsequent albums things get more interesting as she started pushing the boundaries of those aspects. I'd start with Blacklisted, then Fox Confessor Brings the Flood and Canadian Amp EP. After that go older or newer depending on what you like.

Bulk Vanderhuge fucked around with this message at 19:42 on May 7, 2009

MoroniK
Feb 24, 2006
Any hot tips for an aspiring Dinosaur Jr. fan?

Raccoon Leaf
Jul 5, 2005

It's like 60 Minutes on acid.

MoroniK posted:

Any hot tips for an aspiring Dinosaur Jr. fan?

One word:

Bug

Also, You're Living All Over Me

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005

Fun Shoe

Almond Crunch posted:

this might be stupid because i get the feeling that they're already a stupidly easy band to get into, but where should i start with death cab for cutie?

and where should i start with pavement?

Go with what people have said but make sure you wait to go to Wowee Zowee until after CR,CR and S&E. It's an acquired taste.

I don't even like S&E, but everyone goes nuts for it so you should try it.

king teh
Jan 30, 2009

by Fistgrrl
For the Death Cab For Cutie question: Transatlanticism is probably their most accessible album that still retains everything that's good about DCFC as a whole.

I'm a little bored with rock of all kinds right now, and I'm wondering if I can get a few recommendations of where to start with older rap. I'm not a big fan of today's mainstream rap but there are some people/groups I'm fond of (Tech N9ne, Immortal Technique) that my friends turn me on to and are a bit more out there. Basically I'm wondering if anyone can point me to some of the best 80's-90's rap albums. I have no reservations at all so any recommendations are appreciated.

1000 umbrellas
Aug 25, 2005

We thought we'd base our civilization upon yours, 'cause you're the smartest animals on earth, now ain't you?

CSD42 posted:

I'm a little bored with rock of all kinds right now, and I'm wondering if I can get a few recommendations of where to start with older rap. I'm not a big fan of today's mainstream rap but there are some people/groups I'm fond of (Tech N9ne, Immortal Technique) that my friends turn me on to and are a bit more out there. Basically I'm wondering if anyone can point me to some of the best 80's-90's rap albums. I have no reservations at all so any recommendations are appreciated.

As the whitest kid you'll ever meet, pick up N.W.A's Straight Outta Compton.

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

MoroniK posted:

Any hot tips for an aspiring Dinosaur Jr. fan?

Start with You're Living All Over Me, then Bug. After that I'd suggest skipping ahead to their 2007 comeback Beyond, since it's the first album in years with the original lineup. If you still can't get enough Dino Jr, there's their self titled debut, which is pretty uneven but it has a few good songs. The rest of their discography is basically J Mascis solo. The compilation Ear Bleeding Country covers most of the highlights from that period, but misses some of the highlights of the first three albums. So basically:

You're Living All Over Me
Bug
Beyond
Dinosaur and Ear Bleeding Country

Also, they're releasing an album in June.

Amazon Review
Mar 3, 2009

1F YOU B3LI3V3 H4RD 3NOUGH 1N 1M4G1N4RY TH1NGS, TH4T M4K3S TH3M SL1GHTLY L3SS F4K3!
Siouxsie And The Banshees. I've heard some songs, and am intrigued, but I need people on the internet to verify my interests. :colbert:

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Amazon Review posted:

Siouxsie And The Banshees. I've heard some songs, and am intrigued, but I need people on the internet to verify my interests. :colbert:

Hyæna is a good one, from 1984. Robert Smith plays guitar on it.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

The Postman posted:

Any album I should start with for Mustard Plug?

In this order

Evildoers Beware!, Pray For Mojo, In Black And White, Yellow #5, Big Daddy Multitude, Skapocalypse Now

Working from best to meh

Gaylor Moon
Apr 6, 2005

Gender? I hardly know'er
Where should I start with Beastie Boys? I saw Paul's Boutique mentioned earlier, but what else? I'm gonna get poo poo for this, but do they have anything you could compare to 3oh!3?

flirty dental hygienist
Jul 24, 2007

All aboard the knuckle train to FIST PLANET!!

Rotten rear end Joe posted:

Where should I start with Beastie Boys? I saw Paul's Boutique mentioned earlier, but what else? I'm gonna get poo poo for this, but do they have anything you could compare to 3oh!3?

I've never heard 3oh!3 so I have no idea. I'd start with "Check Your Head" from the Beastie Boys first. It's probably the best way to get into them. Then I'd check out "Ill Communication" for more of their rap side. From there go on to "Hello Nasty." I've not heard "The Mix-Up" so I can't comment on that album, but I do know it's all instrumental. Stay away from "To the 5 Boroughs" and "License To Ill."

Paul's Boutique is an amazing album, but check those first two I mentioned to get a feel for the Beasties if you've never really listened to them.

EDIT - After just listening to 3oh!3 on Last.fm, I can safely say that the Beastie Boys are nothing like that band at all.

flirty dental hygienist fucked around with this message at 02:56 on May 14, 2009

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005

Fun Shoe
License to Ill for some bizarre reason is still called a great album, so listen to him. It has aged loving terribly and really is a cringeworthy album.

MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.
Where does one start with the Grateful Dead anyway? My friend played me some of the Dick's Picks albums over the weekend and I really liked what I heard.


Edit: While I'm at it, does anyone know any good queercore?

MIDWIFE CRISIS fucked around with this message at 18:57 on May 14, 2009

azechiel
Mar 16, 2009

Admiral Goodenough posted:

Where does one start with the Grateful Dead anyway? My friend played me some of the Dick's Picks albums over the weekend and I really liked what I heard.

American Beauty and Workingman's Dead. Two albums both released in 1970 and they are amazing. After that, if you want some of their more acid-rock sound, try their first s/t album or Aoxomoxoa. Also, any of their like four disc live albums are worth picking up.

hipster goku M.D.
Dec 26, 2008
Where would one start with Napalm Death and early grindcore in general?

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


An Old Box posted:

Where would one start with Napalm Death and early grindcore in general?

Napalm Death's first two albums are very highly rated as early grindcore goes. Other than that, check out Repulsion and Terrorizer, and use Amazon/last.fm recommendations to help your search. Napalm Death moved towards more conventional song structures later in their career, but their output has been pretty good all along, so check out some of the later albums too. If you like later grindcore, you need to hear Brutal Truth's Need to Control.

President Kucinich
Feb 21, 2003

Bitterly Clinging to my AK47 and Das Kapital

CSD42 posted:

I'm a little bored with rock of all kinds right now, and I'm wondering if I can get a few recommendations of where to start with older rap. I'm not a big fan of today's mainstream rap but there are some people/groups I'm fond of (Tech N9ne, Immortal Technique) that my friends turn me on to and are a bit more out there. Basically I'm wondering if anyone can point me to some of the best 80's-90's rap albums. I have no reservations at all so any recommendations are appreciated.

Depends on how far back you really want to go; Grandmaster Flash or Melle Mel are very much early 80's funk/disco influenced rap. Grand master Flash and the Furious Five's album Message is a good jumping off point.

If you enjoy the grittier sound of rap like NWA, then try EMPD. they use samples from musicians such as Eric Clapton's "I Shot the Sheriff" and they make it sound good. Start with Strictly Business.

I'm also going to second NWA starting with Straight Out of Compton as well as Easy E's Easy does It and Snoop Dogg's older catalog. If you want cleaner beats focused more towards lyrics I'd recommend Missy Eliot or Busta Rhymes.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Admiral Goodenough posted:

Edit: While I'm at it, does anyone know any good queercore?

Limp Wrist is pretty decent.

quote:

Where would one start with Napalm Death and early grindcore in general?

As far as Napalm Death, I highly, highly reccomend Scum, their first album. And as far as other grindcore goes, you really can't go wrong with Carcass. Necrotism and Heartwork are my favorite of their albums.

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot

LtKenFrankenstein posted:

And as far as other grindcore goes, you really can't go wrong with Carcass. Necrotism and Heartwork are my favorite of their albums.

Those albums aren't even grind, though.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

LtKenFrankenstein posted:

Limp Wrist is pretty decent.


Really

Queercore and you don't mention Pansy Division the hell is wrong with you man

bairfanx
Jan 20, 2006

I look like this IRL,
but, you know,
more Greg Land-y.
Right, so I figured I may want to give this "Radiohead" group a shot, and am wondering where a good place to start is? I've only ever heard Creep and True Love Waits, and thought they were both decent, but nothing amazing.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


bairfanx posted:

Right, so I figured I may want to give this "Radiohead" group a shot, and am wondering where a good place to start is? I've only ever heard Creep and True Love Waits, and thought they were both decent, but nothing amazing.

OK Computer. Any list of the best rock albums of the 90s will feature it near the top, and with good reason.

Xynobia
Mar 17, 2007

An Old Box posted:

Where would one start with Napalm Death and early grindcore in general?

The guys that posted about Napalm Death already are right...Scum is a great place to start. Their last few albums (from Enemy of the Music Business on up) are all totally up to par, and easier to find than some of their early albums.

As far as other early grind bands go, absolutely do not miss Repulsion. Their first (and only) full-length, Horrified, is the stuff of legend. And their drummer, Dave Grave, had a Hitler mustache.

Boiled_Dove
May 10, 2009

An Old Box posted:

Where would one start with Napalm Death and early grindcore in general?

I'd go with everyone else and recommend Scum, the defining classic of the genre, and to a lesser extent From Enslavement to Obliteration. Carcass have been mentioned, you should pick up Reek of Putrefacation, the first goregrind album, and the first, as far as I'm aware,to utilise pitchshifting vocals. Other seminal grindcore bands were the Electro-Hippies, Extreme Noise Terror, Unseen Terror, Terrorizer, and come to think of it - any band with 'Terror' as part of it's name..

Miyamoto Musashi
Jul 22, 2006

ultrafilter posted:

OK Computer. Any list of the best rock albums of the 90s will feature it near the top, and with good reason.

Yep, no question this is the place to start. After that, I'd go for The Bends as that's also very accessible. From there, things tend to get a little more experimental.

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

Can anyone suggest a starting point for Elliot Smith? I sort of ignored his albums back when he was around, but now I'm intrigued to dive in and find out what the fuss was all about.

King of Spit
May 18, 2006

hatelull posted:

Can anyone suggest a starting point for Elliot Smith? I sort of ignored his albums back when he was around, but now I'm intrigued to dive in and find out what the fuss was all about.
Either / Or was my starting point 3-4 years ago. Either that or XO. Both are superb.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

cryme posted:

Those albums aren't even grind, though.

Tomato, tomato.

Dr Aldous Huxtable
Oct 6, 2008

by angerbot
So I've been listening to Dark Was the Night lately, and there are a few artists on it that I'd really like to hear more of. Any pointers for Iron & Wine or Andrew Bird?

How about David Byrne? I know he's done a whole lot with a lot of different people, but I haven't heard much of it. Where should I start with him?

KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009

Bulk Vanderhuge posted:

Super old post but more Neko is always a good thing. Her early stuff is a bit honky tonk and pretty traditional in terms of song structure, instrumentals, and vocal style. With subsequent albums things get more interesting as she started pushing the boundaries of those aspects. I'd start with Blacklisted, then Fox Confessor Brings the Flood and Canadian Amp EP. After that go older or newer depending on what you like.

Haha, thanks. After getting no response I just went chronological and that worked for me, but I imagine somebody less into traditional/alt-country that I am would want to start where you suggest.

a few people posted:

talking about the Beastie Boys
Check Your Head and Ill Communication are definitely the best starting points. Paul's Boutique is by far my favorite but it took me like ten spins to begin to appreciate it and it might turn you off the Beasties if you don't have the patience for it.

Ikari Worrier
Jul 23, 2004


Dinosaur Gum

Ellen Page Reactor posted:

So I've been listening to Dark Was the Night lately, and there are a few artists on it that I'd really like to hear more of. Any pointers for Iron & Wine or Andrew Bird?

For Iron and Wine, it'd be best to start with either the Woman King EP or The Shepherd's Dog, since starting around Woman King he started introducing more instrumentation into his sound. His early stuff tends to be really lo-fi and solo acoustic, which, while I enjoy it, can get kind of dull.

I'm not really a big Andrew Bird fan, but going by my friend who really likes him, start with either Armchair Apocrypha or The Mysterious Production of Eggs.

Ikari Worrier fucked around with this message at 23:53 on May 20, 2009

kundalini rinsing
Jun 3, 2007

Ellen Page Reactor posted:

How about David Byrne? I know he's done a whole lot with a lot of different people, but I haven't heard much of it. Where should I start with him?

I'm assuming you don't need an intro to Talking Heads, but as far as his solo stuff goes, except for some of his movie sountracks they're all consistently good and pretty accessible so you could pretty much start with any of them. Some of his albums have a specific 'theme' to them (Rei Momo, his self titled and Sounds From True Stories are more Latin, The Knee Plays is kind of like experimental bluesy dixieland jazz, Feelings has kind of a 40s-50s movie soundtrack feel but also sort of new wavey, Look Into The Eyeball is funky almost discoish, Grown Backwards is kind of operatic, Uh-Oh is new wavey and the closest to Stop Making Sense era heads stuff) but all of them range a lot. I guess if I had to pick a favorite it would be Look Into The Eyeball. His soundtracks are more hit and miss but The Catherine Wheel is probably the best and is kind of funky but with an experimental bent. If you're interested in his collabs with Brian Eno, Everything That Happens Will Happen Today is a better starting point than My Life In The Bush of Ghosts imo.

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CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
Where do I start with Clutch? I'm digging the new songs up on their myspace, but they've got a pretty big backcat. Where's a good place to start?

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