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multigl
Nov 22, 2005

"Who's cool and has two thumbs? This guy!"
this is old, but I'd like some critique if I could

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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Warm it up a tad.

Cannister
Sep 6, 2006

Steadfast & Ignorant

multigl posted:

picture

Yeah as far as post critique I'd say warm up the photo and clone out the power line in the upper left hand corner.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Just adjusted WB and toned down the topleft corner.

multigl
Nov 22, 2005

"Who's cool and has two thumbs? This guy!"
Thanks for the feedback, I hadn't even considered the other corner.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
That tree is buggin the living daylights out of me. It feels like there's a lot of chromatic aberration around it even though it doesn't look like that much up close.

I don't want to say desat the entire top left corner because you've got leaves and things but I'm having trouble thinking of what else I'd do. Maybe crop it by like 25-30%, get rid of the very left and very top?

Does anyone else agree on the tree or am I just being weird?

Edit: On second thought I think it might just be how the light bleeds against the tree itself. I guess I'd just crop it completely to be blunt.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

multigl posted:

Thanks for the feedback, I hadn't even considered the other corner.
And all it cost you is your D700! Will PM address.

Martytoof posted:

Does anyone else agree on the tree or am I just being weird?
If you crop you lose the top right flowers, so no.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I dunno, I guess I'd take it in a completely different direction seeing as how the flowers are already pretty cropped.

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 22:54 on May 19, 2009

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Yeah that'd work, but it's a pretty significant loss of resolution.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Probably. What was the original resolution? It might still be good enough to get decent prints off of.

Edit: I mean the original original.

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


Hey guys

What I want to know is, is there anything I can do for this photo?

It was an extremely sunny day, and the middle got all glared out. Any advice is welcomed, and feel free to grab it and play around with it.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mparsons1982/3547295102/" title="IMG_1079 by alctel, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3375/3547295102_51b4c23de0.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="IMG_1079" /></a>

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Do you have the raw CR2 file? YOu can try opening it in Adobe Camera Raw and using the Recovery slider maybe? It doesn't look too blown out so it might be recoverable.

At least I think that's what it's called in ACR.

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


I use Lightroom, and yes I have the raw. I will try playing around with the recovery slider... Is it kosher to host RAWs somewhere?

multigl
Nov 22, 2005

"Who's cool and has two thumbs? This guy!"

Martytoof posted:

Probably. What was the original resolution? It might still be good enough to get decent prints off of.

Edit: I mean the original original.

the original is much bigger, I heavily cropped it. I'm currently debating the best crop on it myself as well.

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mparsons1982/3547295102/" title="IMG_1079 by alctel, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3375/3547295102_439f7b9647_b.jpg" width="1024" height="683" alt="IMG_1079" /></a>

Ok that looks a lot better, thanks!

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Alctel posted:

I use Lightroom, and yes I have the raw. I will try playing around with the recovery slider... Is it kosher to host RAWs somewhere?

Maybe check out Dropbox? That's where I put big files that I don't want to host forever and ever.

(alternately if you sign up under a referral you get 250mb more)

Anyway, if you use lightroom try playing around with the clarity and recovery sliders.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

multigl posted:

the original is much bigger, I heavily cropped it. I'm currently debating the best crop on it myself as well.

Oh if it's already cropped then yeah, my crop might make it too small to do much with other than an email fwd: fwd: fwd: fwd:.

Personally, I like my crop because it puts focus on the couple and that drat tree is out of my face but that's just me :)

multigl
Nov 22, 2005

"Who's cool and has two thumbs? This guy!"

Martytoof posted:

Oh if it's already cropped then yeah, my crop might make it too small to do much with other than an email fwd: fwd: fwd: fwd:.

Personally, I like my crop because it puts focus on the couple and that drat tree is out of my face but that's just me :)

the original is wide, and has some brides' maids in it -- honestly, my biggest complaint about it is the DJ in the background who was all to handsy with the ladies at the wedding :argh:

I HATE CARS
May 10, 2009

by Ozmaugh

Martytoof posted:

Maybe check out Dropbox? That's where I put big files that I don't want to host forever and ever.

(alternately if you sign up under a referral you get 250mb more)


Just make loving sure you don't put anything into your public folder on Dropbox.

Dropbox TOS posted:

While you own the content contained in Your Files, files placed in your public folders are automatically available to other Dropbox users and to the general public. By placing Your Files in your public folder, you hereby grant all other Dropbox users and the public a non-exclusive, non-commercial, worldwide, royalty-free, sublicensable, perpetual and irrevocable right and license to use and exploit Your Files in your public folder. In other words, a file in your public folder can be used by anyone, for any purpose except commercial use.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Whoops, that's what I get for not reading the TOS carefully.

How the gently caress does Dropbox give away full rights to my files. I've got some MP3s I ripped from a CD in my public folder so I could access them from my UNIX server, somehow I doubt that they're now available to use free of licensing :v:

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 01:36 on May 20, 2009

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


This is a great thread though it makes me feel stupid since I know NOTHING about post-processing, I pretty much just tweak WB if its off in Lightroom.
Oh, and I used the recovery tool once :V

Why do people use Photoshop as well as Lightroom? Is it because it has a bunch more features than LR? What are the main advantages?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Alctel posted:

Why do people use Photoshop as well as Lightroom? Is it because it has a bunch more features than LR? What are the main advantages?

It's much more powerful once you get past small adjustments and minor manipulation. The cloning/healing tools in LR are good for dust but anything more than that and you'll be wanting for PS.

I found it would be much more feasible to use Photoshop without Lightroom than Lightroom without Photoshop. Lightroom makes all the basic adjustment controls central and integrates them into a pretty, easy to use photo cataloguing system.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Alctel posted:

Why do people use Photoshop as well as Lightroom? Is it because it has a bunch more features than LR? What are the main advantages?
It's a lot more flexible. Lightroom's just faster for 80% of the stuff you'd want to do to pictures.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Not PP specific but I don't think we have (or really need) a dedicated Lightroom thread:

Is there any way to change the default import date format? By default it is:

YYYY/Month/DD, or 2009/May/21

I always change mine to

YYYY/MM - Month/DD - Shootname, or 2009/05 - May/21 - Backyard Photos

just so I can keep my months numerically listed instead of alphabetically. Is there any way to automatically prepend the "05 -" before "May"? I do it manually right now and it's not THAT much of a pain but I thought it would be neat if there was a way to do it.

brad industry
May 22, 2004
(For me) Lightroom is for RAW processing, Photoshop is for actual retouching.

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


Ok, I had a go at some post-processing

here is the original




Here it is after I followed the 'retouching 101' found on this page http://raymondshay.com/tutorials/PhotoEditing101/index.htm



Any advice? Ideas etc? It looks a bit sharper, but I am not sure if I am imagining it or not...

SirRobin
Mar 2, 2002

Martytoof posted:

How the gently caress does Dropbox give away full rights to my files. I've got some MP3s I ripped from a CD in my public folder so I could access them from my UNIX server, somehow I doubt that they're now available to use free of licensing :v:
They don't. You do. What they're saying is that your public folder is open to the public and, by putting them in a public place, you are giving them away. Don't leave them in a public place if you don't want other people using them (also, if you do, Dropbox isn't liable for what the public does with them).

quote:

...you hereby grant all other Dropbox...

also

quote:

You represent and warrant that you own or have the necessary licenses, rights, consents and permissions to grant the licenses that both your public and shared folders require, as described above.

Or to put it another way, if you've got some MP3s you ripped from a CD in your public folder you had better be the copyright holder or have the copyright holder's permission because you just said to the world "these songs are mine, come and get them!"

Good luck with that.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Welp, looks like I'm cleaning out my public folder :pwn:

I HATE CARS
May 10, 2009

by Ozmaugh

Martytoof posted:

Welp, looks like I'm cleaning out my public folder :pwn:

Too late, remember that the license is "perpetual and irrevocable".

Just make sure you don't put anything else in there.

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


Whats a good book for learning about Processing in LightRoom for a beginner?

I have decided to get good at doing stuff in LR before moving on to PS.

SirRobin
Mar 2, 2002

I HATE CARS posted:

Too late, remember that the license is "perpetual and irrevocable".
Not quite. If no-one has downloaded the stuff from his public folder no license has been granted. Once they have downloaded stuff it has been granted and he can't take it back.

SirRobin
Mar 2, 2002

Alctel posted:

Whats a good book for learning about Processing in LightRoom for a beginner?

I have decided to get good at doing stuff in LR before moving on to PS.
The Lightroom 1 version of this was pretty good.

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


SirRobin posted:

The Lightroom 1 version of this was pretty good.

Yeah, it seems to be pretty popular, I think I will get it.

Any recommendations on a good PS CS4 book?

AIIAZNSK8ER
Dec 8, 2008


Where is your 24-70?
Has anyone used his other books? this one in particular looks good to me http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Shutter-Speed-Low-Light-Photography/dp/0817463011/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243453081&sr=8-2

I was thinking of picking up a couple at once.

baptism of fiber
Oct 17, 2004
compound
How does one choose an appropriate radius setting for sharpening? Should noise reduction be done before or after? Or both? Is there a reason to sharpen in Ps over ACR?

Also, for learning material suggestions, I've been very happy with Katrin Eismann's Masking and Compositing.

baptism of fiber
Oct 17, 2004
compound
When I open up a folder of raw files in bridge, then click on one, after about a half-second the color changes, looking darker and less saturated.

As I understand it, it's because the original thumbnail was a camera-generated jpg that's shown on the camera's display, and the duller version is adobe's preview that it built from the RAW file.

How do I make adobe process the raw file in a way more similar to my camera, so I can use that as a starting point?

brad industry
May 22, 2004
Sharpening should always be the very last step in your workflow, so do noise reduction before (which makes thing soft anyways). Don't sharpen in ACR unless that is the last step before output.

Radius depends on the file size and what it's being output for. I generally use .5 for web and 1.5 for print but that depends.

ferdinand
May 14, 2003
lo stupire me
For sharpening in PS I usually start out at(unsharp mask) 100/1, sometimes varying. Afterwards perhaps 10/250 for a nice richness, like to play it up on jewelry or sparkly things as well.

Sebastian Flyte
Jun 27, 2003

Golly

baptism of fiber posted:

When I open up a folder of raw files in bridge, then click on one, after about a half-second the color changes, looking darker and less saturated.

As I understand it, it's because the original thumbnail was a camera-generated jpg that's shown on the camera's display, and the duller version is adobe's preview that it built from the RAW file.

How do I make adobe process the raw file in a way more similar to my camera, so I can use that as a starting point?

You can't make Bridge or ACR recreate the camera software processing that generated the JPG. It would somehow require that the camera software saved some metadata describing the what it did to the RAW file when adjusting contrast/saturation/highlight and shadows adjustment/etc etc, and then having the Adobe software re-create most of those adjustments. And with all sorts of camera manufacturers doing all sorts of RAW processing in their camera software, it would probably be quite a task for Adobe to emulate all that.

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Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


Sebastian Flyte posted:

You can't make Bridge or ACR recreate the camera software processing that generated the JPG. It would somehow require that the camera software saved some metadata describing the what it did to the RAW file when adjusting contrast/saturation/highlight and shadows adjustment/etc etc, and then having the Adobe software re-create most of those adjustments. And with all sorts of camera manufacturers doing all sorts of RAW processing in their camera software, it would probably be quite a task for Adobe to emulate all that.

However in Lightroom you CAN make edits to make the original look a bit better, then save it as a camera default so it automatically goes through the same steps everytime you download from that camera. Not sure if you can do it in bridge though.

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