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rararasputin
Apr 27, 2006

LtKenFrankenstein posted:

Man that's a great movie.


I know! I thought I had just about run out of actual good horror movies, and just had a million "bad" ones left to watch, and then I realized a couple weeks ago that I had never watched Candyman.

And I like your answer. It's sort of a middle ground, and does make sense given the very end.

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Sizzlechest
May 7, 2007

ayb posted:

We have to watch 2 documentaries that offer "opposing" views on the topic(and of course analyze them). I know of the more well known documentaries but don't know what has come out that opposes them.

Michael Moore Hates America vs. any/every other MM documentary made before 2004 (except Blood in the Face, I guess).

I'm sure if you looked up the various Penn and Teller Bullshit episodes, you will easily find a documentary with the opposing viewpoint. The "Holier than Thou" episode talks poo poo about Mother Teresa, Mahatma Gandhi and the Dalai Lama. It's a slam dunk!

Crazy Mike
Sep 16, 2005

Now with 25% more kimchee.
What's the name of the bonus scene that some movies have after the credits? Is there a website that has these in a non spoiler fashion so I know to expect one when I get to the theaters?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Crazy Mike posted:

What's the name of the bonus scene that some movies have after the credits? Is there a website that has these in a non spoiler fashion so I know to expect one when I get to the theaters?
Those are called "codas" (singular: coda)

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

tendrilsfor20 posted:

Those are called "codas" (singular: coda)

I wouldn't agree with that. In my mind, a coda is a kind of epilogue for books and movies that acts as commentary.

What I think you're after is a Stinger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-credits_scene

Darth Freddy
Feb 6, 2007

An Emperor's slightest dislike is transmitted to those who serve him, and there it is amplified into rage.
Oh god help me, this is driving me insane. You know when you have part of a song stuck in your head and can not tell where its from? I have that with a movie scene.

The good guys are trying to escape and alien ship that is about to blow up, there is a countdown over the speakers but it is in alien and I believe it is a semi female voice.

This driving me insane and no amount of googeling helps, any one have any idea?

Edit. Sorta sounds like this, forgive my horrible...alien?

conto kleyak, conto klen

Darth Freddy fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Apr 24, 2009

tickle monster
Aug 20, 2006
is in your closet
I swear we used to have a recommendation thread, but I couldn't find it. I've been on a stylized sci-fi fantasy film kick, and every place I've searched has told me to just rewatch Star Wars. Can someone recommend me a sciifi film like Barbarella, Forbidden Planet, or Flash Gordon? As long as the visual style holds and it's watchable, quality doesn't really matter.

Darth Freddy
Feb 6, 2007

An Emperor's slightest dislike is transmitted to those who serve him, and there it is amplified into rage.

tickle monster posted:

I swear we used to have a recommendation thread, but I couldn't find it. I've been on a stylized sci-fi fantasy film kick, and every place I've searched has told me to just rewatch Star Wars. Can someone recommend me a sciifi film like Barbarella, Forbidden Planet, or Flash Gordon? As long as the visual style holds and it's watchable, quality doesn't really matter.

The Last Starfighter will allways be on of my favorites, Fortress 1 and 2 can be fun, Ice Pirates and the He-man movie is a good camp sci fi.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

tickle monster posted:

I swear we used to have a recommendation thread, but I couldn't find it. I've been on a stylized sci-fi fantasy film kick, and every place I've searched has told me to just rewatch Star Wars. Can someone recommend me a sciifi film like Barbarella, Forbidden Planet, or Flash Gordon? As long as the visual style holds and it's watchable, quality doesn't really matter.

Depending on your cheese and seriousness, here are a few to consider. (No particular order)
Accion Mutante - batshit insane spacefaring dystopia black comedy.
Circuitry Man - post Apoc road movie about sex robots, bounty hunters, and Commando's Bennet as the titular character. It's not a space movie though.
Battle Beyond the Stars - 80s classic space war/Seven Samurai with a fun cast

Edit: I guess it goes without saying that The Fifth Element is the best response.
If you've got the Roger Corman sensibility, you might like stuff such as Spacehunter.

Ape Agitator fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Apr 25, 2009

NeuroticErotica
Sep 9, 2003

Perform sex? Uh uh, I don't think I'm up to a performance, but I'll rehearse with you...

tickle monster posted:

I swear we used to have a recommendation thread, but I couldn't find it. I've been on a stylized sci-fi fantasy film kick, and every place I've searched has told me to just rewatch Star Wars. Can someone recommend me a sciifi film like Barbarella, Forbidden Planet, or Flash Gordon? As long as the visual style holds and it's watchable, quality doesn't really matter.

Star Crash - it's the finest of the $30,000 Italian Star Wars rip-offs.

Fart Jesus LOL
Mar 11, 2007

tickle monster posted:

I swear we used to have a recommendation thread, but I couldn't find it. I've been on a stylized sci-fi fantasy film kick, and every place I've searched has told me to just rewatch Star Wars. Can someone recommend me a sciifi film like Barbarella, Forbidden Planet, or Flash Gordon? As long as the visual style holds and it's watchable, quality doesn't really matter.

Planet Of The Vampires by Mario Bava if you're looking for cool visuals. Also, Mario Bava sci-fi. Yeah

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe

tickle monster posted:

I swear we used to have a recommendation thread, but I couldn't find it. I've been on a stylized sci-fi fantasy film kick, and every place I've searched has told me to just rewatch Star Wars. Can someone recommend me a sciifi film like Barbarella, Forbidden Planet, or Flash Gordon? As long as the visual style holds and it's watchable, quality doesn't really matter.
That's a pretty wide swath of galactic adventuring.
Yeah you'll probably like Ice Pirates and

  • Cherry 2000.
  • CQ is a stylish movie about the filming of a movie similar to Barbarella; not the greatest plot but a good cast.
  • The American Astronaut. Check it out, scifi made with no budget. Entertaining with a unique visual style and sense of humour.

Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Apr 26, 2009

Keanu Grieves
Dec 30, 2002

I just finished watching A Complete History of My Sexual Failures and although I'm certain a good portion of it was staged, I can't find anything on the Internet highlighting what exactly is fake and what, if any of it, is real. Has anyone come across any articles written by the subjects that could shed any light on the subject?

It's an enjoyable diversion...I just wish it would've been more penetrating (no pun intended) and honest. Wandering around the streets of London begging someone to gently caress him after what looks like a fake O.D. on Viagra is certainly not documentary material, and it's not even as funny as Jackass.

Also, has anyone else read anything about the mental problems one girlfriend describes him as having? I wish the documentary would've explored more of that a la Tarnation...if he's genuinely crazy, that would paint the documentary in a new light.

Universe Master
Jun 20, 2005

Darn Fine Pie

Why do the Highlanders/Immortals want to kill each other?

Most of their problems stem from the fear of beheading/constantly having to train for battles/ the loneliness of mortals aging and dying and the inability to connect with other immortals because they might try to kill you. Yes, there is some vague notion of "The Prize" but it seemed to be morality with telepathy when Connor "won" it, and he may not have "won" it anyway.

Seriously, if they just got together and ended the fighting and they could all hang out and form immortal corporations with super long term investment strategies to get rich. They could form friendships and relationships with each other and not have to worry about watching their friend/partner eventually age and dye. Pretty much live forever in paradise and all they have to do is not cut each others heads off! How hard is that?

Dr. Video Games 0069
Jan 1, 2006

nice dolphin, nigga
I have a real question. What is the source of the quote "The world goes on for millions of years and how long is a man's life? A handful of years and then an eternity under the ground! Why does he have to die almost the moment he's been born?"

Elijya
May 11, 2005

Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.

Crazy Mike posted:

What's the name of the bonus scene that some movies have after the credits? Is there a website that has these in a non spoiler fashion so I know to expect one when I get to the theaters?

Dunno about non-spoilers, but IMDb listings have a "Crazy Credits" section on the left hand column.

Colinrobinson
Apr 10, 2005

Yeah I'm not positive what my deal is either, so I just sort of keep on truckin'
Question about Heat:

I absolutely love this movie, so this is not meant as a dig against such an engrossing film, but I think there's a plot hole regarding the pivotal shootout -- but maybe I am just an idiot.

Shootout spoilers:
So the only reason that Pacino and the LAPD know which bank De Niro's crew is hitting is that a criminal informant calls in the tip just before hand. The delay is of course such that the cops don't arrive until the crew is leaving the bank.


The problem is: The criminal informant is said to be Hugh Benny (Henry Rollin's character), Van Zandt's muscle man. The motivation for this is clear, considering De Niro's actions against Van Zandt earlier, BUT, how does Hugh Benny know the bank time/info?

Van Zandt/Benny are presumably given this information by Waingro, who wants to gently caress up De Niro's plans just as much (and there's a scene not too much earlier showing their introduction).


How then, does Waingro know the bank time/info? He was kicked out of De Niro's crew the night after the bearer bonds job, and was never shown in contact since that point. The only people who had info on the bank were De Niro's crew, Nate(John Voight), and Nate's computer guy. So Waingro should have no way of knowing, right?

Admittedly, Cherito is spoken of as a loose-lips character, but he certainly wouldn't have said such things to Waingro of all people.

Anyone want to clear things up for me? Alternative: I'm thinking too hard about this.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Re: HEAT (It's been a while since I've seen it, but I think this is how it goes)

Waingro cuts a deal with Van Zant, says he knows how to get De Niro out of the way. Waingro then goes over to Trejo's house, beats the gently caress out of him and gets the information about the robbery, which he then feeds to Van Zant, who then feeds it to the police.

Colinrobinson
Apr 10, 2005

Yeah I'm not positive what my deal is either, so I just sort of keep on truckin'

Timby posted:

Re: HEAT (It's been a while since I've seen it, but I think this is how it goes)

Gotcha -- For some reason I had always associated Trejo's attack/death as a simple retribution attack by Van Zant's goons, I had never put two and two together about Waingro being the one who did it.(Doesn't Trejo say something about "They", not "Him"?) I suppose that still begs the question as to how did they find Trejo, if they could find him, why didn't they just go straight after Neil, Michael, or Chris? But that's just a tactics issue, not a huge plot hole.


Thanks!

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

muscles like this? posted:

I just watched Day Watch and I was wondering, what is the deal with that short scene right before the credits with Semyon driving around?

If I recall correctly, the credits are the billboards. So like a meta-moment.

therochester
Jan 31, 2003

by Ozma
Why are so many Italian films dubbed?

Doom Mathematic
Sep 2, 2008

Universe Master posted:

Why do the Highlanders/Immortals want to kill each other?

Most of their problems stem from the fear of beheading/constantly having to train for battles/ the loneliness of mortals aging and dying and the inability to connect with other immortals because they might try to kill you. Yes, there is some vague notion of "The Prize" but it seemed to be morality with telepathy when Connor "won" it, and he may not have "won" it anyway.

Seriously, if they just got together and ended the fighting and they could all hang out and form immortal corporations with super long term investment strategies to get rich. They could form friendships and relationships with each other and not have to worry about watching their friend/partner eventually age and dye. Pretty much live forever in paradise and all they have to do is not cut each others heads off! How hard is that?

Speaking entirely within the context of the first movie, I have no knowledge of other Highlander continuity: it's for plot reasons. That's it. Without the Prize, there is absolutely no motivation for anything in the movie to happen. The true nature of the Prize is as nebulous as it is irrelevant.

We Are Citizen
Apr 5, 2008

therochester posted:

Why are so many Italian films dubbed?

In the case of Italian Westerns, at least, because a lot of times the casts are made up of actors who don't speak the same languages as each other. So they would just film the movie with everyone speaking their own language, then dub it for release.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

therochester posted:

Why are so many Italian films dubbed?

Do you mean dubbing in other languages or ADR work?

In the former, Italians financed a lot of international productions and featured a hodge podge of cast nationalities. Because they did so much international work, it didn't matter what language everyone spoke because they'd just dub them for whatever nation it was going to be in. So you get Spaghetti Westerns where one actor doesn't know a bit of english being opposite someone who doesn't know Italian and they both come out smelling like roses at the end. Dub

I think, based on my experience with Italian genre films, that very few of their films used location sound at all (probably to keep costs down avoiding controlling the environment) so almost all of their audio is extensively done in studio as ADR so the filmgoers are well used to it.

I don't think that's the case with contemporary Italian cinema though, most just stuff from the 60s to the 80s.

therochester
Jan 31, 2003

by Ozma
Yeah, I meant ADR. The example that spurred the question today was I fidanzati. There were several scenes where it looked so bad, yet I couldn't see a justification for it. In particular there were a couple of scenes in a barber shop and an apartment. I would think it would be easy to control for extraneous noise in those cases, so perhaps they were foreign actors. It really takes me out of the movie.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole

therochester posted:

Yeah, I meant ADR. The example that spurred the question today was I fidanzati. There were several scenes where it looked so bad, yet I couldn't see a justification for it. In particular there were a couple of scenes in a barber shop and an apartment. I would think it would be easy to control for extraneous noise in those cases, so perhaps they were foreign actors. It really takes me out of the movie.

Ape Agitator is correct in that almost all sound was added in post. There was a long time when ADR was a whole industry unto itself in Italy. Onscreen actors would be cast specifically for their faces and voice actors would be cast specifically for their voices and regional dialects.

It is distracting, but most of the time you get used to it. I don't notice it at all in I Fidanzati, but maybe that's because I love the movie so much.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
Filming with sync sound as a matter of course is a comparatively new development (internationally at least). This is mostly because of the technical difficulty of shooting in synch prior to the existence of digital timing. For a long time if you wanted decent sound quality you had to use a separate camera and sound recording equipment. This required an elaborate mechanical interlink between the camera and recorder and the gear was expensive and finicky.

New sync sound systems started being developed in the early '60s that were more portable, and they were used by for example many of the French nouvelle vague directors. But this was motivated by a desire for a more immediate, intimate feel in film over a concern for recording quality. Studios continued to shoot films the way they had for years. This was partially because of institutional inertia and partially due to other factors. Cinecittą's studio was famously close to Rome's main airport, for example.

Anyway, I doubt that you can find any Italian films made around when I Fidanzati was made (1963) that were filmed with synch sound. I don't think it was common practice in most Italian studios until the mid '70's. Hong Kong studios and most Bollywood studios held out even longer.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

FitFortDanga posted:

Ape Agitator is correct in that almost all sound was added in post. There was a long time when ADR was a whole industry unto itself in Italy. Onscreen actors would be cast specifically for their faces and voice actors would be cast specifically for their voices and regional dialects.

Isn't that basically exactly what happened with Gabriele Ferzetti in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, or was that just a matter of his accent being so goddamn thick that no one could understand a word he was saying?

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

Timby posted:

Isn't that basically exactly what happened with Gabriele Ferzetti in On Her Majesty's Secret Service, or was that just a matter of his accent being so goddamn thick that no one could understand a word he was saying?
They did a ton of dubbing for various European actors in the old Bond movies. It's pretty seamless (a lot more than in Italian movies from what I've seen), you would never know it wasn't Gert Frobe's voice in Goldfinger unless somebody told you.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

In Gladiator, are we meant to think that Maximus is going to escape and lead his army against Commodus? Obviously that's the plan, but is it a surprise/twist when his plan is foiled, or just the progression of the story? I can't remember the first time I saw the movie so I don't recall what my reaction was.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Cacator posted:

They did a ton of dubbing for various European actors in the old Bond movies. It's pretty seamless (a lot more than in Italian movies from what I've seen), you would never know it wasn't Gert Frobe's voice in Goldfinger unless somebody told you.

Or Robert Rietty dubbing for both Largo in Thunderball and Tiger Tanaka in You Only Live Twice.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

Tender Bender posted:

In Gladiator, are we meant to think that Maximus is going to escape and lead his army against Commodus? Obviously that's the plan, but is it a surprise/twist when his plan is foiled, or just the progression of the story? I can't remember the first time I saw the movie so I don't recall what my reaction was.

Well, it's sort of like Flight 93 (which I don't think needs to be spoiler protected). In both films, people make plans to deal with the horrible scenario they are in and follow that to as far a conclusion as possible. In both cases, I think the filmmakers do a good job of making you get anxious because the plan might change things. Of course, more people know the result of the Flight 93 story than would know about a fictional character so I think you're generally meant to feel like the plot might lead to him getting the upper hand. Whether you consider it a twist, surprise, or merely a turn of fate, it is a progression of the plot.

I really don't think that "surprise" or "twist" really applies in this sense. It's not exactly a "gotcha" just a course of events, really. But people might get invested in the idea of leading up to a big battle so they may find themselves surprised.

Schlitzkrieg Bop
Sep 19, 2005

Ape Agitator posted:

Well, it's sort of like Flight 93 (which I don't think needs to be spoiler protected). In both films, people make plans to deal with the horrible scenario they are in and follow that to as far a conclusion as possible. In both cases, I think the filmmakers do a good job of making you get anxious because the plan might change things. Of course, more people know the result of the Flight 93 story than would know about a fictional character so I think you're generally meant to feel like the plot might lead to him getting the upper hand. Whether you consider it a twist, surprise, or merely a turn of fate, it is a progression of the plot.

I really don't think that "surprise" or "twist" really applies in this sense. It's not exactly a "gotcha" just a course of events, really. But people might get invested in the idea of leading up to a big battle so they may find themselves surprised.

..Or United 93, the much superior movie made out of that event :colbert:

(Not trying to be an rear end, I just always champion United 93 because I think it's one of the best movies of the last few years).

Elijya
May 11, 2005

Could you please continue the petty bickering? I find it most intriguing.

Kentucky Shark posted:

..Or United 93, the much superior movie made out of that event :colbert:

(Not trying to be an rear end, I just always champion United 93 because I think it's one of the best movies of the last few years).

I couldn't bring myself to watch it. That part of 9/11 always chokes me up, I couldn't imagine sitting through a 100 minute movie about it :911:

MANIFEST DESTINY
Apr 24, 2009

Tender Bender posted:

In Gladiator, are we meant to think that Maximus is going to escape and lead his army against Commodus? Obviously that's the plan, but is it a surprise/twist when his plan is foiled, or just the progression of the story? I can't remember the first time I saw the movie so I don't recall what my reaction was.

I think the foreboding scenes that lead up to it ("Busy little bees") are meant to give us a pretty good inkling that Commodus is shrewd enough to see the plot. I don't think it was the intent to make it obvious at which point the plan would fail.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

Kentucky Shark posted:

..Or United 93, the much superior movie made out of that event :colbert:

Damnit. :(

soft fabrics
Aug 17, 2008

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man."
Help! In the version of Pixar's Up that I watched, all the text was in Russian. Can someone tell me what Ellie's adventure book says on the cover, and in big letters in one of the middle pages? I found out what the little written note in it says, but I can't find the rest.

tvb
Dec 22, 2004

We don't understand Chinese, dude!

soft fabrics posted:

Help! I pirated Up!

The front cover says "My adventure book" or "Ellie's adventure book," or something, and the middle page says something like, "Things I'm going to do."

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler

soft fabrics posted:

Help! In the version of Pixar's Up that I watched, all the text was in Russian. Can someone tell me what Ellie's adventure book says on the cover, and in big letters in one of the middle pages? I found out what the little written note in it says, but I can't find the rest.

I'm pretty sure it's says "My Adventure Book" and while I can't remember the exact wording the page in the middle says something like "Thing's I'm going to do".

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
So I was watching Robocop the other day, and when Clarance gets into his car just before they go to the Mill, it looks like his rear view mirror falls off as he slams the door.

This made me wonder, have there been any instances of something really wrong being caught on film and not being removed during editing? I've heard of stuff like planes flying by in the background of a civil war movie, or an guy playing a Indian in an old western wearing a relatively modern watch, but nothing huge.

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