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oh come to think of it, he took ages to regenerate last time, didn't he? like, he came bakc in partsHKR posted:I would totally forgive Rich stopping the webcomic and focusing on only putting out books every year or two if it stopped discussion like this. i mean it's possible that boney-sue will just own everything, but if he doesn't, there's likely to be some kind of plotline about the soulbox, or the lich regenerating, or someting
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happyelf posted:
Stop that. Xykon isn't the self-insertion character.  The Demon Roaches are.
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New Strip The bird gets to be badass. Though I'm surprised V has no feather falls, at least.
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Hasn't the bird expressed a disinterest in dying on a mammal's behalf?
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Sefer posted:New Strip Amusingly enough, spells like that do exist: Spell Compendium, pg. 130, posted:LAUNCH ITEM Doubt he has that prepared, though!
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Now I bet that's small enough that the imp can teleport it!
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Shavnir posted:Now I bet that's small enough that the imp can teleport it! Cloister!
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DoctorTristan posted:Cloister! The rift is within Cloister's area of effect.
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DoctorTristan posted:Cloister! Ah right. Well then V, lets see those cantrips.
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Cabbit posted:Amusingly enough, spells like that do exist: OOTS is the only source of DnD info I've ever had, but isn't Transmutation V's barred school, anyway?
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DrakePegasus posted:OOTS is the only source of DnD info I've ever had, but isn't Transmutation V's barred school, anyway? No, that's conjuration.
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It's strange that I don't want them to actually succeed. Xykon is awesome and I'm kind of rooting for him here. At least, he should be way too badass to be foiled by V's stupid bird.
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If he can be foiled by a stupid bird, he was never really badass, was he?
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I'm guessing if they actually get to toss it into the Snarl the magic is gonna go nuts and something crazy is gonna happen.
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DrakePegasus posted:OOTS is the only source of DnD info I've ever had, but isn't Transmutation V's barred school, anyway? The Werle posted:No, that's conjuration. And Necromancy, I believe, seeing as you have to have two of them. V was firing off a ton of transmutation spells in Azure City's battle (Mass Bull's Strength, MAss Enlarge Person, etc.)
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So if getting killed by the Snarl destroys your soul, does this mean that the destruction of the phylactery (which holds Xykon's soul) results in making Xykon an undead abomination that cannot regenerate again once he's destroyed? He can't just forge another phylactery if that poo poo goes down, can he?
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The phylactery debate is more annoying than the alignment debate. Fact.
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Featherfall maybe? EDIT: Dammit so close... http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0049.html
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ShadowCatboy posted:So if getting killed by the Snarl destroys your soul, does this mean that the destruction of the phylactery (which holds Xykon's soul) results in making Xykon an undead abomination that cannot regenerate again once he's destroyed?
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Which would probably add considerably to the drama.
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Uh just so you're all clear, Xykon's soul is not presently in the phylactery, it's in Xykon's body.
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Goffer posted:Featherfall maybe? We know V has featherfall in her spell book- she used it when she was polymorphed into a lizard. We don't know whether she prepares it when she can speak, though. I'd hope so, since it's one of those just in case spells that every wizard can have, but I don't remember her using it in any other case.
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This comic has been on loving fire for the last few weeks.
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Did 3E remove the constitution/hp loss if a familiar is slain? That would have been a hilarious way for V to die.
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oobey posted:Uh just so you're all clear, Xykon's soul is not presently in the phylactery, it's in Xykon's body. True, but it going into the rift is a pretty serious setback that even Xykon has to take seriously. If the phylactery is destroyed by the rift, then he's gotta waste a good amount of time making a new one, and he's pretty vulnerable in the meantime. If it isn't destroyed, then that means that if he's destroyed, then his body will reform inside the rift, which will probably be a Bad Thing for him. Either way, I don't see him wanting to leave the house for a while.
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DoctorTristan posted:Did 3E remove the constitution/hp loss if a familiar is slain? That would have been a hilarious way for V to die. Yeah. You lose XP instead.
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Nilbop posted:Wait, why is he keeping O-Chul alive at this point? Doesn't he already know where the gate is? Redcloak convinced him that knowing something of the defenses of the next gate would be useful. He also refuses to admit that O'Chul actually knows anything, so they just keep torturing him.
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Yeah, Redcloak hates the Sapphire Guard with a burning passion and probably very much enjoys having one around to torture.
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seaborgium posted:Redcloak convinced him that knowing something of the defenses of the next gate would be useful. He also refuses to admit that O'Chul actually knows anything, so they just keep torturing him. Also, saying, "Sorry Xykon, we can't go to the next gate until I finish torturing the Paladin, I'd be done by now if you didn't keep playing games with him," is a great excuse to stick around the city and do administrative things. Redcloak finally has a goblin city, and isn't going anywhere until the place is self-sufficient.
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The solution to all of V's problems has existed this entire time. All that time V wasted on divination magic was pointless. V could have contacted Durkon using his/her own powers without relying on anything else. V had a God damned familiar and everyone forgot, including the readers, the characters, and even the damned wizard in question. The familiar could have been sent to find Haley. The familiar could have asked Durkon for help. The familiar could have fixed it, but it wasn't important because it wasn't a spell.
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Augustus posted:The solution to all of V's problems has existed this entire time. All that time V wasted on divination magic was pointless. V could have contacted Durkon using his/her own powers without relying on anything else. OK, few questions. Why would she want to talk to Durkon? In fact, why would she have needed powers to talk to him? She could just go up on deck and say hi. How would the raven find Haley? If it found Haley, why wouldn't she just shoot it for Belkar to cook? Once the raven found Haley, how would it find its way back to Vaarsuvius? And what help of Durkon is V desperately missing? Besides the obvious answer of, very shortly, a raise dead.
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Augustus posted:The solution to all of V's problems has existed this entire time. All that time V wasted on divination magic was pointless. V could have contacted Durkon using his/her own powers without relying on anything else. That's the joke. Have you ever known a wizard or sorcerer who remembered about their familiar most of the time?
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My former group's wizard did some excellent work by delivering touch spells via familiar and scry on it. Basic stuff that comes with having a familiar, but very useful they way he utilized them.
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You know the familiar can just fly high above the snarl and drop the thing in. Of course then Xykon might be able to intercept it on the way down.
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Xykon could just laugh at the whole thing and shoot down the bird without too much trouble.
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Affi posted:Xykon could just laugh at the whole thing and shoot down the bird without too much trouble. Imagine if V lost a level because of the XP loss, that would prompt another gloating from Xykon no doubt.
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V's gonna lose more then a level, you know, when Xykon kills them both. They have no chance to survive. Wonder if they'll become zombies.
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I wonder how much time has past during this whole thing so far. 3 minutes? I wonder when they flip back we'll see Roy up and walking around. I know there is no way to have them get there and help them out though.
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All this phylactery discussion. This reminds me of some funny poo poo that went down in a game of mine. Our group wizard wanted to eventually become a lich, and was mostly insane. He wasn't evil or anything, he just wanted to be a skeleton man(note this was a mid to low level character, there was absolutely no chance of him ever accomplishing lich-hood). During one excursion some dark goblins(like the duergar of goblins) burned down a house and we went to take them out. We killed the goblins, except one was knocked out. Well, our wizard decided instead of killing the Goblin, he would 'domesticate' him, and kept charming the hell out of him. He only taught the goblin one word of common "phylactery". Which he would always pronounce phonetically: "phiii- lact- tooor- reeee". He routinely let the charm spell run out to see if the goblin had been properly domesticated yet, and then go catch him if he rebelled. Our GM eventually ruled that the continuous low level charm spells constantly cast on him over the course of a game-year combined with repeated head trauma gave the goblin a brain tumor and he died.
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Haha. Throwing an item? Who needs that? All V needs is MAGE HAND. Haha.
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