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I wonder what Xykons strength score is, he tosses people around and kills with his bare hands more then spells so what is the deal with that?
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Olanphonia posted:So, I guess the monster is finally coming out of the box? Or he could just shuffle around inside the box and do whatever it is Xykon wants him to do. Hey, it worked for Snake in the Metal-Gear games.
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Jun 13, 2009 14:13
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I think being a lich automatically turns your hands into natural weapons, which he sorta of referenced by telling V he has magic AND the ability to crush her windpipe.
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Jun 13, 2009 14:13
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bison wings posted:I think being a lich automatically turns your hands into natural weapons, which he sorta of referenced by telling V he has magic AND the ability to crush her windpipe. Becoming a Lich also gives you crazy bonuses to pretty much all of your stats. Taking into account that he's level 30, once beat someone to death with an improvised weapon, and can lift giant slabs of stone, his STR is probably 20, or higher.
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Jun 13, 2009 15:26
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NutShellBill posted:Becoming a Lich also gives you crazy bonuses to pretty much all of your stats. Taking into account that he's level 30, once beat someone to death with an improvised weapon, and can lift giant slabs of stone, his STR is probably 20, or higher. Liches get +2 Int/Wis/Cha and get paralyzing touch, but no other natural weapons. In that he's epic and a +5 book and +6 to all stats item are really cheap (and we can be pretty certain he's been fiddling with some epic item creation, too, since he has an item that makes him immune to fire), he probably does have a 20+ strength anyway.
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Jun 13, 2009 16:12
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That is some Epic-level threatening of Redcloak, too. Awesome.
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Jun 13, 2009 16:14
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NutShellBill posted:...once beat someone to death with an improvised weapon... When did he do that as a lich? I remember him doing that as a human in Start of Darkness.
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Jun 13, 2009 16:26
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Kuroshi posted:When did he do that as a lich? I remember him doing that as a human in Start of Darkness. He killed Roy's dad's mentor as a human in SoD , and when you think about it, that trophy couldn't have been much more than a d4 weapon, probably less. It definitely suggests that even in his advanced years, Xykon had around 10 STR, maybe more, even with the penalties for aging.
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Jun 13, 2009 16:28
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Olanphonia posted:So, I guess the monster is finally coming out of the box? Or he could just shuffle around inside the box and do whatever it is Xykon wants him to do.
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Jun 13, 2009 17:09
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Sefer posted:Liches get +2 Int/Wis/Cha and get paralyzing touch, but no other natural weapons. In that he's epic and a +5 book and +6 to all stats item are really cheap (and we can be pretty certain he's been fiddling with some epic item creation, too, since he has an item that makes him immune to fire), he probably does have a 20+ strength anyway.
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Jun 13, 2009 21:31
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A tiny little observation. Tsukiko's shoes are colored the same as her eyes.
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Jun 13, 2009 22:32
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So the sum total of V's accomplishments this arc are: -Losing his soul for, oh, let's say 3 hours to three demons whenever the hell they feel like it. -Letting loose two epic-level evil ghosts. -Getting Xykon off his rear end and back in world-conquering mode. -Freeing O-chul (okay, 1 out of 4 isn't bad). Nice.
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Jun 13, 2009 23:46
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404GoonNotFound posted:So the sum total of V's accomplishments this arc are: Three. Three epic-level ghosts. Though the IFCC did say they'd go round Haerta back up. I assume they'd do the same for the other two.
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Jun 14, 2009 00:15
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404GoonNotFound posted:So the sum total of V's accomplishments this arc are: Killing of a very large % of black dragons. Teleporting the azurites to a haven. Getting the band back together. Unless this arc only counts as when he left the party. In which case the 2 is correct for the spirits as #3 was loosed prior to that.
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Jun 14, 2009 00:20
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He didn't get the band back together, they did that on their own
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Jun 14, 2009 01:01
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ConfusedUs posted:Three. Three epic-level ghosts. Oh yeah, I assumed he just got sucked back to the lower planes when V failed the Will roll, compared to the other two getting intentionally severed.
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Jun 14, 2009 01:14
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Whuh? He failed a Will roll here, too. You know, after getting bashed by a giant rock. What he did: He killed off a huge number of black dragons, saved the Azure Citizens' collective arse, he managed to get Xykon's phylactery to disappear and he saved O'Chul at the cost of an hour and a half or so of evil soul-possession and getting Xykon himself pretty pissed off. He also helped create something of a wedge in the Xykon/Redcloak relationship. Whether it's worth it is one thing, but it most certainly was not a wasted effort.
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Jun 14, 2009 12:08
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Question: Is "rear end in a top hat" the strongest word we've seen yet in OotS? Rich does not seem to be one for swearing, or things close to that.
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Jun 14, 2009 12:14
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Neito posted:Question: Is "rear end in a top hat" the strongest word we've seen yet in OotS? Rich does not seem to be one for swearing, or things close to that. Off the top of my head (and from skimming some of the Azure City invasion arc earlier today) he's said "bitch" more than once.
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Jun 14, 2009 14:15
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Neito posted:Question: Is "rear end in a top hat" the strongest word we've seen yet in OotS? Rich does not seem to be one for swearing, or things close to that. Hell, drat, bitch, goddamn, rear end, and now rear end in a top hat have all made an appearance.
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Jun 14, 2009 14:53
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V. Illych L. posted:Whether it's worth it is one thing, but it most certainly was not a wasted effort. Except all the good things he did was quite by accident. None of it was his intention and I wouldn't even credit him with O'Chuls escape. O'Chul escaped himself by befriending the MitD.
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Jun 14, 2009 17:26
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For anyone thinking Redcloak was getting too comfortable being Supreme Leader of Azure City and sharing Big Bad limelight with Xykon after the siege, this strip is hella reassertment of just who the master is. Also, where do we think (MitD?) has teleported V and O-Chul? Back to Azure City to get the show on the road or somewhere else for more personal reflection? I'd love to see O-Chul just lambast V over his choices for the past few strips.
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Jun 14, 2009 17:48
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O-Chul has become one of my favorite characters in the strip. He's badass, but he's also the perfect embodiment of what a Paladin should be. Noble, loyal, self-sacrificing for the greater good, and living those things in order to convert evil to the side of good.
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Jun 14, 2009 17:54
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Nilbop posted:Also, where do we think (MitD?) has teleported V and O-Chul? Back to Azure City to get the show on the road or somewhere else for more personal reflection? I'd love to see O-Chul just lambast V over his choices for the past few strips. I'm hoping that MiTD's `teleport' was something that sends the target to where he wants to go rather than to where the caster wants to send them; that way V will hopefully land somewhere near the rest of the group and we can see an end to this arc. Having a split party has overstayed its welcome and I'd like to see some progress towards the gates.
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Jun 15, 2009 00:51
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ConfusedUs posted:O-Chul has become one of my favorite characters in the strip. He's badass, but he's also the perfect embodiment of what a Paladin should be: not a dumbass. That's how I feel about it. While my DnD knowledge is pretty restricted to games and the like, Paladins have always come across as fighters with a bit of magic on the side. However they have to act like holier than thou retards who have blind devotion to a cause and can never waver because they'll lose their powers.
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Jun 15, 2009 05:17
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 Ladies and gentlemen, if I am not mistaken, we are one resurrection away from having the band back together. brb, going to spraypaint O-CHUL LIVES on some walls or something.
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Jun 15, 2009 11:18
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Don't die, O-Chul! 
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Jun 15, 2009 11:21
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Wow, that's pretty much the best possible outcome. Nice work, MitD!
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Jun 15, 2009 13:13
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O-Chul is diplomatic to the last. My god is he a well-done paladin. 
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Jun 15, 2009 14:16
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Truly classy move on O-Chul's part. I really wouldn't have expected it. Great writing.
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How DID Haley and Elan get there? The Paladins are supposed to be somewhere in the elven frontier right now, while the OotS was in Greysky. And V left each of them there one scene ago. And nobody except V knew where she left the Azurites. And nobody in OotS can teleport at the moment.
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Jun 15, 2009 14:24
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V teleported them to the fleet.
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Jun 15, 2009 14:42
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If Durkon has more than one Wind Walk prepared, he could cast it on himself and four others since he's greater than 12th level, which is enough to get Haley, Elan, Belkar and either raised Roy or Celia (or possibly both if he's 15th level, since Elan is probably 14th or higher judging by the fact that he's got Mass Cure Light Wounds, which is a 5th level spell).
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Mr Deliciousman posted:Ladies and gentlemen, if I am not mistaken, we are one resurrection away from having the band back together. Note that Durkon is off panel. The res is probably done by now.
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Taerkar posted:V teleported them to the fleet.  I guess I glossed over that fact as I was scrambling to check the cast page when Haley stole that diamond from her own past.
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sfwarlock posted:Note that Durkon is off panel. The res is probably done by now. Only three minutes passed, tops. Ten minutes is along time in rounds and Haley and Elan are just now reaching Hinjo with news that V has gone to kill Xykon.
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Jun 15, 2009 22:52
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LightWarden posted:If Durkon has more than one Wind Walk prepared, he could cast it on himself and four others since he's greater than 12th level, which is enough to get Haley, Elan, Belkar and either raised Roy or Celia (or possibly both if he's 15th level, since Elan is probably 14th or higher judging by the fact that he's got Mass Cure Light Wounds, which is a 5th level spell). Celia doesn't need a spell to fly, so I think he could get everyone underway, including V (if he's not 15th level already he likely will be once the quest xp for reuniting the party gets handed out).
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Jun 15, 2009 22:54
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DoctorTristan posted:Celia doesn't need a spell to fly, so I think he could get everyone underway, including V (if he's not 15th level already he likely will be once the quest xp for reuniting the party gets handed out).
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Jun 15, 2009 23:01
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Yadoppsi posted:Only three minutes passed, tops. Ten minutes is along time in rounds and Haley and Elan are just now reaching Hinjo with news that V has gone to kill Xykon. You have got to be kidding me. Just reading all that dialogue in Xykon's throne room out loud takes at least 10 minutes.
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sfwarlock posted:You have got to be kidding me. Just reading all that dialogue in Xykon's throne room out loud takes at least 10 minutes. Talking is a free action.
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