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HankMcCoy posted:gotta say, i'm digging the H2 trailer. Is it vastly different looking the then original series? yea, but that's not a bad thing. The worse part about the original series was the strict copying of the original's formula with much less talented directors. This actually looks like a Rob Zombie Halloween movie. Highly stylized and not-adherent at all to the original, addressing what was the biggest problem of his remake. This is what makes it a good remake, even if it's not a 'good' remake. He's not slavishly copying the original while also dumbing it down and including in-jokey references. It's like the thing or the fly - completely different, but thematically similar enough to justify keeping the name.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:This is what makes it a good remake, even if it's not a 'good' remake. He's not slavishly copying the original while also dumbing it down and including in-jokey references. It's like the thing or the fly - completely different, but thematically similar enough to justify keeping the name. For one, why add all the unnecessary stuff about Michael Myers and his hosed-up white-trash life when you're still going to portray him as a psycho even as a kid? For one, the thing that makes Michael Myers so scary to begin with is that there is no reason for his actions: he's the pure embodiment of evil. That's it. No reason. He's evil incarnate. So even if you try to "explain" Myers by saying he had a horrifically abusive childhood and snapped, that takes all the terror out of it and turns him into nothing but a run-of-the-mill serial killer. Except, Zombie's flashbacks didn't even do that. Myers is already a hosed up psycho kids, yet we need all this background on his home life for... what reason? In the original, it seems like his sister's sexuality is the catalyst that finally snaps him. But he was evil, and he was going to be evil no matter what. With Zombie, suddenly it's fifteen loving minutes of the life and times of the white trash. I don't get why that was necessary. It came off as stupid and goofy to me, not scary. Two, the acting was awful. Laurie was especially unbearable. We're supposed to identify with her/root for her and yet she drove me away from the movie. And between her and the other characters and the acting and the dialogue, I literally couldn't sit through the movie after 45 minutes. This is why I think Zombie shouldn't be remaking jack poo poo. I actually really like House of 1000 Corpses for what it is. And I think Devil's Rejects is a fantastic movie. But Halloween was just loving bad. And I wanted to like it; I was determined to like it. And I still hated it. Zombie has real talent as a director. But Halloween is not good or even passable. Maybe the sequel will be different, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Slasherfan posted:I'm confused, didn't Dr Loomis die at the end of the first Halloween? He got his eyes gouges out so how is he back with eyes? Or does it all depend on which version you saw? In the version I saw, I think he was strangled and just sort of tossed aside. In the movie, he was probably meant to be dead but Zombie could definitely work around it. Edit: Does someone know/have a link to the differences between the cuts? Mine was the "Blockbuster Video Unrated Cut" or something similar, and it was just over 2 hours long compared to the theatrical 1 hour 45 minute version. Edit 2: Also, I thought the one really clever thing Zombie did was reverse the deaths in the "Carpenter section": instead of Michael coming back to the room in the ghost sheet, we merely think it is and it's actually the boyfriend screwing around with his girl, only for Michael to leap from the shadows of the hallway and kill him. That was the one part that actually made me jump. timeandtide fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Jun 25, 2009 |
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UncleMonkey posted:I don't think the failing was that he didn't slavishly copy the original. He could have gone in his own direction and still not have failed. But his remake was full of flaws. I think Zombie has a talent that keeps growing, with each one of his movies getting a little better each time(although I did like DR more that Halloween). To be fair there was really only so much he could do with a Halloween remake. Halloween is an iconic classic from a great director. John Carpenter had some huge shoes to fill and I think Zombie did an admirable job with what he was given. Look at the majority of the critisism against his remake. It's mostly centered around the changes he made to the original. "I liked it better with no explanation, he was creepier as just a force, etc. etc." The thing is he had to make those changes, or else it would have just been a shot for shot remake with more blood and tits and rape. I actually like Zombie's Myers more than the original. He may have made some missteps, but all in all he did a good job. I"m looking for to this sequel alot more that the first remake. It seems to be alot more instep with Zombie's earlier work. I"m glad he decided to do the sequel as well since they leave alot more wiggle room to reinterpret and change. Halloween is undeniably a classic, but the series got worse and worse as time goes on. People may say they didn't like some of Zombies choices, but I like them alot more than psychic deaf mutes, Cult of Thorns, movies that don't even have Meyers in them, reality show in his house, etc. etc. timeandtide posted:
The only major difference I can recall is that in the theatrical version Meyers escapes during a transfer, while in the directors cut he escapes during the rape scene. I really dislike that scene and wish he would have kept the original. Having the two rednecks rape a girl seemed way to " look out how more extreme I can be" and was really unneccessary. KillRoy fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Jul 1, 2009 |
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KillRoy posted:The only major difference I can recall is that in the theatrical version Meyers escapes during a transfer, while in the directors cut he escapes during the rape scene. Yeah and Bill Moseley's character was cut 
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So you guys want to see a nice gory pick from FD4? This is kinda spoiler-y, so don't click on the link if you want to go into the movie knowing as little as possible. Also, I put NWS tags on it just to be safe. There's no nudity or anything. But it's gory, so, you know, yada yada yada your own discretion and all that jazz. http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/32461/spoiler-y-image-from-the-final-destination
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Interesting wallpaper to come from H2: Full size I don't know what it means but at least it looks cool 
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Secks posted:I don't know what it means but at least it looks cool HVP: Halloween vs Pumpkinhead. 
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Someone should make a movie about a goon meet where the goons meet up and go camping together. Only someone picks them off one by one. "Someone is making the internet a better place, one goon at a time" Slasherfan fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jul 11, 2009 |
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Slasherfan posted:Someone should make a movie about a goon meet where the goons meet up and go camping together. Only someone picks them off one by one. As long as it's only a movie... right?
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Slasherfan posted:Someone should make a movie about a goon meet where the goons meet up and go camping together. Only someone picks them off one by one. The shortest chase scenes in any movie ever.
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Slasherfan posted:Someone should make a movie about a goon meet where the goons meet up and go camping together. Only someone picks them off one by one. There is a potential movie in here if some filmmaker gets extremely spiteful at his fanbase. You could twist the conventions and have the whole cast range from DJ Qualls to Jorge Garcia with the fat guys tripping and falling in the woods, or slipping on their hot pockets, or pissing themselves with fear. It'd take a real ego maniac to do it, like Lady in the Water levels of ego only pointed at fans instead of critics. Totally self destructive and hilarious.
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RichterIX posted:The shortest chase scenes in any movie ever. I don't know, the fat guy in Behind the Mask managed to outrun the killer pretty well for a while.
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UncleMonkey posted:So you guys want to see a nice gory pick from FD4? This is kinda spoiler-y, so don't click on the link if you want to go into the movie knowing as little as possible. Also, I put NWS tags on it just to be safe. There's no nudity or anything. But it's gory, so, you know, yada yada yada your own discretion and all that jazz. That is so fake looking I can't believe it's actually going to be used in a movie.
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Do any of you guys have any details about this movie called The Collector? I was watching some television yesterday when I saw the trailer and it looked like it may be decent. I just hope it doesn't become fixated on the traps and such like the Saw series. Here is the trailer for anyone who hasn't seen it. The Collector
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Welp the new Nightmare on Elm Street has wrapped shooting. (And yet it still doesn't come out until April? Does it really take that long to add the special effects and edit? Christ.) I can't remember where I read it but word is the new Freddy is supposed to be revealed at Comic-con. We shall see.
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weekly font posted:That is so fake looking I can't believe it's actually going to be used in a movie. Yeah it looks a bit crap in a snapshot taken from a cheap camera with out the proper lighting or angel or anything but i'm sure as soon as its set up right it will look just as real as any other FD death. Its a big Hollywood movie I'm sure there not just going to suddenly screw up and buy a $1.50 model. Although i guess that has occasional happened in the past. Still until we get an actual film still there's no point in talking about how crap it looks.
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spixxor posted:Welp the new Nightmare on Elm Street has wrapped shooting. (And yet it still doesn't come out until April? Does it really take that long to add the special effects and edit? Christ.) I can't remember where I read it but word is the new Freddy is supposed to be revealed at Comic-con. We shall see. You partially answered your own question. When a movie wraps, there is all sorts of post-production, but there's also all of the promotional work (and hype) that has to go into it. The studio will want to build some interest before just dropping it into theatres.
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InfiniteZero posted:You partially answered your own question. When a movie wraps, there is all sorts of post-production, but there's also all of the promotional work (and hype) that has to go into it. The studio will want to build some interest before just dropping it into theatres. Yea, I understand that, but you'd think a new Nightmare movie would pretty much promote itself. It's not like they don't have a fan base ready and waiting. Sure they'll be doing the whole "Hey look at this trailer!" type thing, but it shouldn't take 8 months to build interest in a movie that's using established characters. I guess I'm just impatient and don't know dick about marketing, but still.
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spixxor posted:I guess I'm just impatient and don't know dick about marketing, but still. I figure they're trying to take a franchise view. Reboots right now are big in that they allow for really profitable sequels. And finding a good time to release it is going to be key. The fall is a little thick with horror stuff so I'd wager they padded this with tons and tons of time so that they can to tests and (if necessary) reshoots and deal with any shooting delays. That way, if all goes well, they're on pace to have the brand new Nightmare pumping out well attended sequels for years and years.
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Ape Agitator posted:I figure they're trying to take a franchise view. Reboots right now are big in that they allow for really profitable sequels. And finding a good time to release it is going to be key. The fall is a little thick with horror stuff so I'd wager they padded this with tons and tons of time so that they can to tests and (if necessary) reshoots and deal with any shooting delays. That way, if all goes well, they're on pace to have the brand new Nightmare pumping out well attended sequels for years and years. It also sounds like since they're releasing it in April instead of January-March that they might want to give it a bigger push than usual. Most horror films just get dumped out there with a trailer and a shitload of TV spot advertising the week of. And from what I've read, most of the actors have signed a three picture deal for the new series.
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spixxor posted:I can't remember where I read it but word is the new Freddy is supposed to be revealed at Comic-con. We shall see. Bloody Disgusting posted an article tonight saying that we'll be seeing the first official picture of Freddy sometime tomorrow, and that it'll be released on MySpace. They also posted a bit of interview with the make-up guy, who says they went with "more of a healed-burned Freddy" instead of a more charred or freshly burned look, and that they got rid of the big witch-looking nose that Robert England's Freddy had.
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Yeah Devin at Chud posted a brief snippet of his set visit and said that Freddy looks like an actual burn victim now. A move which also means they can't really franchise him with toys and everything anymore.
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Not sure if I should start new thread for Saw VI as it's not really a slasher flick. Anyway, motion poster. http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/saw-vi-motion-poster.html Adore this poster. Best poster of the series.  Also new picture of Freddy. 
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e:f,b. I like the photo, but I hope they release a better one soon.
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Saw posters have always been pretty creative. Also Slasherfan, you should probably thumbnail that bigass table breaker.
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I'm looking forward to the new Nightmare flick, should be fun. I was Freddy for Halloween once in my youth. And that Saw VI poster is funny because it looks like a Halloween VI poster.
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Ape Agitator posted:Saw posters have always been pretty creative. How you do that? EDIT, never mind, got it. Slasherfan fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Jul 23, 2009 |
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Another Freddy pic, with glove! Click here for the full 608x900 image. Ok, so they've got the Freddy look, they didn't gently caress up the glove, and judging by Jackie's Watchmen performance he's got a good Freddy voice and the acting chops...I'm trying to be loyal to Robert Englund but dammed if I'm not pretty excited about this thing now. I'll wait for a trailer before I get too happy, but so far so good. spixxor fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Jul 23, 2009 |
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First Saw VI Clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsV2W-1YNnw
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spixxor posted:Another Freddy pic, with glove! It's almost as if a slow hype machine is at work instead of just dropping the movie into theaters and expecting it to "market itself" ... (sorry, I had to mention that) The poster does look pretty cool. Sadly, so did the poster for the F13 remake. What do I know though, I was all apalled about the MBV remake, and that one turned out well. Time will tell I guess.
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InfiniteZero posted:It's almost as if a slow hype machine is at work instead of just dropping the movie into theaters and expecting it to "market itself" ... All right, I give, you got me. Yeah, a badass poster does not a good movie make, but it can't be worse than the F13 remake. It just can't. Even if it doesn't live up to the original, Freddy as a character is way more interesting than Jason, and ability-wise gives you a lot more to play around with creatively. There's only so much you can do with a mentally challenged giant with mommy issues and a machete. Christ, I've come full circle to defending this thing now. Fake edit: I'm half asleep and retarded, what is MBV? I just can't loving think of it.
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oh God I didn't see "page 18 out of 21," so to make this post not totally useless, I've hated everything I've seen about Orphan, but thanks to Ebert's review, I think it might be suffering from production-studio-directing-the-trailer syndrome. Don't get me wrong, I want other people to see it first, but I guess it could actually be pretty good if they keep Esther's "secret" ambiguous until the third act. spixxor posted:Fake edit: I'm half asleep and retarded, what is MBV? I just can't loving think of it. .old post! Frontalot posted:Mark Romanek and Marc Forster also had pretty good high-profile movies after a career in music videos. Hell, I'd venture to say that One Hour Photo is one of the freakiest movies ever made. Same with Mark Pellington (Mothman Prophecies, which is one of those movies that gets a lot less credit than it deserves). And Michel Gondry. Actually, I'd dare say I really like movies by directors of old music videos. f#a# fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Jul 23, 2009 |
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spixxor posted:Yeah, a badass poster does not a good movie make, but it can't be worse than the F13 remake. It just can't. I'm on board for this Nightmare remake, but by aiming higher I'd say it has an easier chance of being worse than the F13 remake. For one thing, this Nightmare remake is actually a remake of the first Nightmare film. By having the main character be Nancy Thompson again, it draws some comparison to the Halloween remake which did the same thing, and it definitely has large shoes to fill compared to Wes Craven's masterpiece. The director of this Nightmare remake, Samuel Bayer, is a music video director who hasn't even directed an episode of a TV show. One of the writers has pretty much no credits, the other wrote the Doom movie from 2005. This Nightmare remake will also probably take itself more seriously than the Friday the 13th one, which means if it fails it'll be even less entertaining. I'll be seeing this, and I think Rorschach is a great casting choice, but this is definitely not an assured success. I'm a huge fan, and I put the Friday the 13th remake in the top three in the series. I only rank Friday 4 and Friday 2 above it. It's the classic formula, campers who are entertainingly sad, especially the "dick" character of Trent who I freakin' loved. They get slaughted by Jason, and it's stylish and classic. It didn't aim high, but it did what it set out to do with the formula, and it did it better than the majority of the other sequels I'd say. And it had a lot of great humor, who didn't love it when the nerd was blasting the 80s classic "Motorin!", Sister Christian by Night Ranger. Plus it has easily my favorite ending in the series. Jason smashing through the dock is Jason personified. Part IV is my favorite one, but the Corey Feldman ending while hilarious is not as good. Of course, the ending of the first Friday the 13th is awesome as well. PsychoGoatee fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Jul 23, 2009 |
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timeandtide posted:Well, Orphan is almost out and Ebert gave it...3 1/2 out of 4 stars? Maybe it's better than I thought. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090722/REVIEWS/907229993 quote:After seeing "Orphan," I now realize that Damien of "The Omen" was a model child. The Demon Seed was a bumper crop. Rosemary would have been happy to have this baby. Here is a shamelessly effective horror film based on the most diabolical of movie malefactors, a child. It's currently at 44% on Rotten Tomatoes, so I don't know what to think. Ebert's review makes me want to check it out, though. UncleMonkey fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jul 23, 2009 |
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Wait, I thought this new Nightmare was not a remake, but a re-imaging of the Freddy character and also an origin story. I was understanding that it was going to focus on his child murders and then the subsequent capture and burning by the parents.
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Polegrinder posted:Wait, I thought this new Nightmare was not a remake, but a re-imaging of the Freddy character and also an origin story. I was understanding that it was going to focus on his child murders and then the subsequent capture and burning by the parents. Nope, it stars Nancy Thompson, also has the character of her mom Marge Thompson, etc. It's a remake, not a prequel, and they've finished filming. I've also heard someone say the script wasn't very good, who read a version of it on the internet somewhere I guess. Take that with a grain of salt. I'll be seeing this, and I hope it's good, and the pics so far are cool. Just getting the concerns out there, don't want the hopes to be way too high.
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PsychoGoatee posted:Nope, it stars Nancy Thompson, also has the character of her mom Marge Thompson, etc. It's a remake, not a prequel, and they've finished filming. I've also heard someone say the script wasn't very good, who read a version of it on the internet somewhere I guess. Take that with a grain of salt. It's apparently Both. A remake of the first film, with hints of Freddy's past. Nancy and Marge are the only characters from the original story (beside Freddy) that actually show up (although, I am sure Nancy's dad will still be Lt. Thompson, Hero Cop)
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