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Azulita
Dec 9, 2006

by Lowtax
My RE says it does not matter how faint the second line is, if you see it, you're pregnant. Congrats!

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Susan B. Antimony
Aug 25, 2008

Well, now I've started to have some bleeding--guess I'm that rare false positive. =/ Does this mean I need to mistrust any future positive results?

Eia
Nov 5, 2003

Susan B. Antimony posted:

Well, now I've started to have some bleeding--guess I'm that rare false positive. =/ Does this mean I need to mistrust any future positive results?

It could have accurately reported a chemical pregnancy - a very very early miscarriage, where the egg got fertilized but then did not implant.

About.com posted:

Chemical pregnancies are not uncommon. Doctors sometimes advise women to wait to use a pregnancy test until their menstrual periods are actually late in order to avoid detecting and grieving chemical pregnancies because an early pregnancy test often will come up positive but then the woman's menstrual period arrives on time or a few days late.

I'm sorry for the disappointment :( Are you guys trying to conceive or was this a surprise?

Lannie
Nov 21, 2005

snookie snookeie snnnokeid

Susan B. Antimony posted:

Well, now I've started to have some bleeding--guess I'm that rare false positive. =/ Does this mean I need to mistrust any future positive results?

It could just be that it was the "dreaded" evaporation line. Some tests are more reliable than others. I've never seen an evap line personally, but it's often discussed on some of the pregnancy/parenting boards that I sometimes read.

I also think a pregnancy as far along as you potentially could have been would have shown a darker line. At 11dpo I had a faint line, by 20dpo it was as dark as could be. The only other thing that I can think of is that you could have had a chemical pregnancy. That happens when the egg is fertilized but can't properly implant in the uterine lining. You start to produce small amounts of HCG and then it tapers off as the egg passes. The period after a chemical pregnancy is often slightly to moderately heavier than a normal period.

Edit: Arrrgghhh! EFB by Eia. :P

Susan B. Antimony
Aug 25, 2008

It would have been a surprise...but a nice surprise. Ah, well. Cheers, ladies.

Fire In The Disco
Oct 4, 2007
I cannot change the gender of my unborn child and shouldn't waste my time or energy pretending he won't exist

Fire In The Disco posted:

Hey all. I've been posting my woes in the Pregnancy Megathread; figured I may as well post over here too.

I'm 30, my husband is 26, and we've been married for a little under a year. Since we got married, I have been totally and utterly depressed, thanks to a miscommunication where I thought we agreed I'd go off birth control when we got married, and he thought we'd agreed to talk about it when we were married.

Fast-forward, and after many, many, many discussions/arguments, my husband has finally seen the light (special thanks to Lannie and hepscat, whose posts really helped convince him!) and we're officially going to start trying...well, soon. I have to get the all-clear from the doc, because I'm diabetic and I'll have to go off medication and onto straight-up insulin while pregnant, and for all I know, I'll have to do the same while we're trying just to be safe.

Anyway, I'm praying that we get pregnant really soon! I ordered a pregnancy test/ovulation test package from http://www.early-pregnancy-tests.com/ myself, can't wait to get it!

I went to my primary care physician today, and he gave us the green light from his point of view for going ahead and trying for a baby. However, he wants me to see an obstetrician before we actually start trying, because he determined that while my diabetes medications are Class B meds and therefore fine for pregnancy, my high blood pressure meds are Class C and not ok. Thankfully, there are a lot of blood pressure medications out there, some of which are fine for pregnancy, so I will probably be switching. And, as far as the diabetes meds go, if the obstetrician wants me to change those up too, I'm game. I just want to have a safe and happy pregnancy!

So, one down, one more to go. Now I need to find an obstetrician. I am not sure if there are any at the birth center I plan on using for prenatal care; I know they have nurses and midwives and doulas, but I don't think they have obstetricians. Still, they're probably a good place to start, and maybe they have recommendations I can try. Anyway, just thought I'd keep you all updated. Here's to hoping for another green light soon!

Fionnoulla
Jan 30, 2006

Drop the chalupa!

Fire In The Disco posted:

Now I need to find an obstetrician. I am not sure if there are any at the birth center I plan on using for prenatal care; I know they have nurses and midwives and doulas, but I don't think they have obstetricians. Still, they're probably a good place to start, and maybe they have recommendations I can try.

Be sure to let them know about your high blood pressure and diabetes when you call and ask for a referral because it may dictate which doctor you see. I was classified as a high risk pregnancy due to HBP (& some other things in my history, but primarily the high blood pressure). Pretty much my perinatologist's entire practice was made up of a few women having multiples and everyone else had HBP, diabetes, or both.

Good luck and I hope you get someone you love as much as I loved Dr. Piaquadio!

Susan B. Antimony
Aug 25, 2008

Good luck, Fire. My situation is in some ways similar to yours--I'd like a kid, I'm 26 and husband is 30 [backwards twins!], but the husband wants to wait. He's got good reasons, but I do hope for an accident. Hope things go quickly for you.

Eia
Nov 5, 2003

Fire In The Disco posted:

Now I need to find an obstetrician. I am not sure if there are any at the birth center I plan on using for prenatal care; I know they have nurses and midwives and doulas, but I don't think they have obstetricians. Still, they're probably a good place to start, and maybe they have recommendations I can try. Anyway, just thought I'd keep you all updated. Here's to hoping for another green light soon!

Definitely start with the midwives. They can refer you to a good OB if they feel that that would be necessary, or prescribe for you under certain circumstances if it's not a high risk issue. Good luck!

Fire In The Disco
Oct 4, 2007
I cannot change the gender of my unborn child and shouldn't waste my time or energy pretending he won't exist
I made an appointment with the birth center for the end of August. My very experienced sister (mother of two, both birth center kids) is coming with me, because I am sure she'll ask things that I don't even know I should be asking. I am so excited I don't even know what to do with myself. I just cannot wait for this to become a reality. I've been praying for an "oooops" since before we got married, while simultaneously feeling guilty about it because I knew my then-fiance was not at all ready for it. Now that he is, I can't wait!


edit: I was debating on posting this portion, but I think I will, and ask for what you ladies would do, were you in this situation:

Let's say I test today and detect an LH surge. Sweet, I'm going to ovulate! Being who I am, waiting would probably kill me, so I would definitely want to try to get pregnant during this ovulation (especially since I am irregular and don't know when the next ovulation would be). BUT, there's the blood pressure medication. It's pregnancy categort C, meaning "animal reproduction studies have shown an adverse effect on the fetus and there are no adequate and well-controlled studies in humans, but potential benefits may warrant use of the drug in pregnant women despite potential risks." This is the reason my doctor wants me to see an obstetrician in the first place; he wants to get me on a blood pressure medication that is category B (there probably doesn't exist one that is category A). So what do I do?

If this theoretical scenario played out right now, meaning tomorrow I ovulated, and was actually able to get pregnant, the only thing I could think of to do would be to call my doctor ASAP and say that I won't be able to see my obstetrician 'til the end of August and see what he can do. What would you do in this scenario?

Fire In The Disco fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jul 25, 2009

Lannie
Nov 21, 2005

snookie snookeie snnnokeid

Fire In The Disco posted:

I made an appointment with the birth center for the end of August. My very experienced sister (mother of two, both birth center kids) is coming with me, because I am sure she'll ask things that I don't even know I should be asking. I am so excited I don't even know what to do with myself. I just cannot wait for this to become a reality. I've been praying for an "oooops" since before we got married, while simultaneously feeling guilty about it because I knew my then-fiance was not at all ready for it. Now that he is, I can't wait!


edit: I was debating on posting this portion, but I think I will, and ask for what you ladies would do, were you in this situation:

Let's say I test today and detect an LH surge. Sweet, I'm going to ovulate! Being who I am, waiting would probably kill me, so I would definitely want to try to get pregnant during this ovulation (especially since I am irregular and don't know when the next ovulation would be). BUT, there's the blood pressure medication. It's pregnancy categort C, meaning "animal reproduction studies have shown an adverse effect on the fetus and there are no adequate and well-controlled studies in humans, but potential benefits may warrant use of the drug in pregnant women despite potential risks." This is the reason my doctor wants me to see an obstetrician in the first place; he wants to get me on a blood pressure medication that is category B (there probably doesn't exist one that is category A). So what do I do?

If this theoretical scenario played out right now, meaning tomorrow I ovulated, and was actually able to get pregnant, the only thing I could think of to do would be to call my doctor ASAP and say that I won't be able to see my obstetrician 'til the end of August and see what he can do. What would you do in this scenario?

What doctor are you seeing now that controls which medications you're on? Primary that you just met with, or a specialist? You should be able to see that doctor and they can prescribe the medication for you. I don't see why you should have to wait to see an ob first. They will know what category medication you're on and what category medication they will change you to. I'd personally recommend doing that sooner rather than later. If you happen to have an oops, you would only have a short while before the placenta forms and the things you ingest begin to affect the baby in any way.

Fire In The Disco
Oct 4, 2007
I cannot change the gender of my unborn child and shouldn't waste my time or energy pretending he won't exist
Primary. I think he just wanted to see if an obstetrician had specific recommendations for me above what he was able to see about my drugs (e.g. that my diabetes meds are category B and considered safe for pregnancy whereas my HBP are category C and not). If the OB recommended changing all of the medications, my doctor would do that. I think he's just not as comfortable with the OB side of things, dealing more with general practice for non-pregnant folks.

Lannie
Nov 21, 2005

snookie snookeie snnnokeid

Fire In The Disco posted:

Primary. I think he just wanted to see if an obstetrician had specific recommendations for me above what he was able to see about my drugs (e.g. that my diabetes meds are category B and considered safe for pregnancy whereas my HBP are category C and not). If the OB recommended changing all of the medications, my doctor would do that. I think he's just not as comfortable with the OB side of things, dealing more with general practice for non-pregnant folks.

In that case, it really would be best to prevent an oops as much as possible at this point unless you can safely stop taking the medications that are worrisome. I personally wouldn't recommend it though. If you're really anxious to switch fast, you can always look for an ob outside of the birth center group and then switch to them after your appointment in August.

Keep in mind that the ob might not feel comfortable switching your medications as well and are likely to send you to a perinatologist. In which case, switching medications might potentially take longer than hoped.

Eia
Nov 5, 2003
Which bp drug do you take? There are a lot of category C drugs that are routinely prescribed to pregnant women and others that are routinely avoided.

Fire In The Disco
Oct 4, 2007
I cannot change the gender of my unborn child and shouldn't waste my time or energy pretending he won't exist
Clonidine and Propranolol (generic Enderol). I am more than willing to get off 'em; my doctor has even expressed that he's not sure I need two drugs. The two drugs were first given to me when I was hospitalized last year with BP through the roof, like 220 over 140. If I can go down to one that's actually safe for pregnancy, I'll be more than happy to. Aldomet seems to be commonly prescribed to hypertensive pregnant women.

Fire In The Disco
Oct 4, 2007
I cannot change the gender of my unborn child and shouldn't waste my time or energy pretending he won't exist
So, some bad news today that led to some somewhat good news: I talked to a midwife at the birth center I wanted to go to for prenatal care and she told me I can't go there. I was coming to terms with the fact that I wasn't going to be able to have a birth center birth with my medical conditions, but I figured I could still see a midwife for prenatal care, and maybe even have a midwife delivery at the adjunct hospital. I was pretty disappointed to learn that I couldn't even get that.

The good new is, the midwife recommended me to an OB/GYN practice very near the birth center that they often work with. The practice specializes in low intervention and natural childbirth, and has a midwife on staff. Better yet, I can get in to see them in 2 weeks, so I don't have to wait until the end of August like I was going to do at the birth center. This helps alleviate my concern over what to do if we get pregnant sooner than the appointment and I'm still on category C drugs. So, maybe this is a blessing in disguise. I can meet with an obstetrician and even if we do get pregnant I'll be able to talk to her about making the right changes.

Azulita
Dec 9, 2006

by Lowtax
Fire - I kind of guessed that they'd insist on an OB for you, but I am really really glad that you found a low intervention practice!

So this is my last cycle using fertility drugs alone, if this cycle is a bust, we are moving on to IUI with injectibles. We have insurance approval and a plan in place and everything. A friend recommended TCOYF, but I'm already half way through this cycle and doing IUI next cycle - do you guys think it's still worth reading?

Eia
Nov 5, 2003
Fire in the Disco -- I think working with a low-intervention OB is probably the best possible path for you. Hospital births don't have to be high intervention. I had a beautiful hospital birth in an atmosphere that overall respected my natural birth preferences. I risked out of homebirth or birth center births based on high blood pressure, but you will be happy to know that my preexisting high blood pressure in no way harmed my beautiful, healthy child and did not complicate the birth. I wish you the best.

Fire In The Disco
Oct 4, 2007
I cannot change the gender of my unborn child and shouldn't waste my time or energy pretending he won't exist
Thank you for that! I, of course, worry immensely that my hypertension and diabetes are going to cause major issues, and hearing stories like yours help me a lot!

Eia
Nov 5, 2003
just be prepared for the fact that come your third trimester, every single time you have contact with a medical professional they will want to just make absolutely sure that you don't have pre-eclampsia. They'll see high bp #s and worry that you've got pregnancy-induced hypertension instead of pre-existing essential hypertension and so there will be tons and tons and tons of urine tests for protein and let's-just-check-the-baby tests and the like. It's not invasive but when you're hugely pregnant it can make you cranky.

Cross_
Aug 22, 2008
Asking on behalf of my wife: how long does it take for the cycle to normalize after going off the pill?

bamzilla
Jan 13, 2005

All butt since 2012.


how regular was she while she was on the pill? If she was fairly regular, then going off shouldn't make a huge difference.

Pixi
Apr 16, 2001

I am loved.
Er, no.

I was regular as clockwork while on the pill, and after coming off it took me 9 months to get a period, and they never did regulate on their own. Even if her period was regular before the pill, your hormones and fertility can change radically between your teen years and late twenties, when most women are typically on birth control.

Every body is different. Some women will resume normal menses right away like nothing happened, some women will bleed and spot for weeks, some women won't get a period for weeks/months/even years. The only thing you can do is wait and see.

bamzilla
Jan 13, 2005

All butt since 2012.


My mistake then :) I guess I should say that it didn't affect me, then.

qentiox
Nov 8, 2005

I like dragons.

Cross_ posted:

Asking on behalf of my wife: how long does it take for the cycle to normalize after going off the pill?

It's different for every woman. I was on the pill for 3 years, and got regular periods 3 months after I stopped them. I had cycles right away, but they were really wonky.


Fire, I'm glad things are working out alright. It's great that you were able to find a low-intervention OB!

Lannie
Nov 21, 2005

snookie snookeie snnnokeid
Fire In The Disco, I had a feeling that you would risk out, but I'm really happy to hear about this new ob. Let us know how it goes! I'm very excited for you. :)

Azulita, I've only heard good things about TCOYF, but I have no experience. It can't hurt to read it.

Cross_ posted:

Asking on behalf of my wife: how long does it take for the cycle to normalize after going off the pill?

I was on the pill for 6.5 years. I was regular before, during and after coming off of the pill. It really depends on the woman though. It's one of those "wait and see" type of things. I believe most doctors that deal with the pill say that it can take 1 - 6 months usually. In my opinion, that's a really broad amount of time. I suppose they say that because they really can't say anything for sure.

Lannie fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Jul 28, 2009

opie
Nov 28, 2000
Check out my TFLC Excuse Log!

Cross_ posted:

Asking on behalf of my wife: how long does it take for the cycle to normalize after going off the pill?
I got pregnant during the second cycle after stopping the pill and I'd been on it for over 11 years.

Azulita
Dec 9, 2006

by Lowtax
My cycle was normal on the first month after stopping the pill, everything worked like clockwork. And my fertility doctor is putting me on the pill between each IUI cycle (if we need more than one) because it enhances fertility for the first month after taking it. So he seems to think things get back to normal quickly.

ScottK
Jun 28, 2006
Like I said somewhere above, my wife is pregnant again and this time it actually looks like it "stuck" so far. She is around 8 weeks now.

She's having the (what I guess are) normal symptoms, feeling nauseated, increased sense of smell (including being disgusted by many common smells), and has thrown up a couple of times. She feels nauseated at any time of the day or night, which is supposedly normal.

She quit taking her "prenatal vitamins" and instead started taking the chewable Flintstones vitamins, along with a Folic Acid pill, but she still was just as sick. Last night she only took the Flintstones vitamin, and NOT the Folic Acid, and this morning she feels pretty good. Is this a coincidence or could the Folic Acid be making her sick? It's just really hard to tell if she is sick because she's pregnant or if she's sick because of something she's taking.

Azulita
Dec 9, 2006

by Lowtax
From my understanding, it is usually the iron in prenatals that makes moms-to-be sick. I have "easy on the stomach" prenatals, and they have folic acid, but reduced iron. I bought the sensitive stomach prenatals from CVS for about $10, maybe you could give those a try.

Lannie
Nov 21, 2005

snookie snookeie snnnokeid

SKeefe posted:

Like I said somewhere above, my wife is pregnant again and this time it actually looks like it "stuck" so far. She is around 8 weeks now.

She's having the (what I guess are) normal symptoms, feeling nauseated, increased sense of smell (including being disgusted by many common smells), and has thrown up a couple of times. She feels nauseated at any time of the day or night, which is supposedly normal.

She quit taking her "prenatal vitamins" and instead started taking the chewable Flintstones vitamins, along with a Folic Acid pill, but she still was just as sick. Last night she only took the Flintstones vitamin, and NOT the Folic Acid, and this morning she feels pretty good. Is this a coincidence or could the Folic Acid be making her sick? It's just really hard to tell if she is sick because she's pregnant or if she's sick because of something she's taking.

I was having some issues with my prenatals and I switched some of the vitamins I was taking and no longer get sick. She should try a new brand/type of folic acid for now. At this point in her pregnancy, it's the most important of the vitamins to be taking. I take a folic acid with DHA gel cap by Naturemade. It's been really gentle on my stomach and I haven't had any problems taking it. If she's taking a folic acid tablet, she may want to change to a gel cap. I find the tablets start to dissolve the second they hit my tongue and it's pretty gross.

My midwife told me that if prenatals make me sick, to try to keep taking at least the folic acid and then try adding my prenatals again at 14 weeks when I'm fully out of the first trimester. I didn't have to wait that long before trying the prenatals again though. They no longer make me ill.

Also, it may help her to take a separate B6 pill. It's supposed to help relieve morning sickness. I've been taking it and I've found that it's helped. W00t, two more weeks til I'm done with the first trimester (for my midwifery practice it's 13 weeks). :D

jennyinstereo
Jan 17, 2007

[rocking faces since the 80s]
I was on the pill for many many years. I came off the pill in March. For about a year and a half, I was skipping the placebo pills and just going straight from pack to pack, not taking any breaks (= no period).

Had my first period off the pill in April. 30 days later, another period. 30 days after that, a period in June. I just got my period again on Sunday.... 45 days after the one in June. I was starting to panic but maybe this is normal after coming off the pill? Before I started taking the pill, I was regular. When I was on the pill and actually took 7 day placebo pill breaks, I was regular. But now, they're kind of off. Hopefully they regulate themselves soon!

Azulita
Dec 9, 2006

by Lowtax
I take the same folic acid/DHA supplement as Lannie with the same good results. It really is the most important of the prenatal vitamins. Everything else the baby can steal from you until the second trimester and you can take a prenatal without getting sick. Lannie is also right about the B6.

Cross_
Aug 22, 2008
Thanks for all the feedback!

Agent Burt Macklin
Jul 3, 2003

Macklin, you son of a bitch
Here's a question - once your ovulation test shows you are ovulating, that means that you are about to ovulate in the next 24 hours or so, correct?

Fire In The Disco
Oct 4, 2007
I cannot change the gender of my unborn child and shouldn't waste my time or energy pretending he won't exist
The way I understand it, the ovulation test tests for an LH surge. The luteinizing hormone (LH) is what stimulates the follicle to release the egg, so you see a surge in it right before you ovulate. 24 hours is typically around the time frame.

According to TCOYF, there are a couple of factors that can make the tests less effective, including LUFS (Luteinized Unruptured Follicle Syndrome) where there's an LH surge but no actual ovulation, mini peaks in LH that come before the big peak that makes the egg release, and the presence of fertility drugs. That's why the book talks about using them in conjuction with testing cervical mucous and basal temperature.

Longpig
Nov 23, 2004

Got my period today (first since the miscarriage) so I guess it's try, try again now... My feelings are kind of mixed but I definitely want to move forward.

Susan B. Antimony
Aug 25, 2008

Good luck, Longpig. So sorry about your loss.

Fire In The Disco
Oct 4, 2007
I cannot change the gender of my unborn child and shouldn't waste my time or energy pretending he won't exist
So, I was able to test my mucous and use my ovu test strips to determine when I was ovulating, and coincidentally it was like a week after my husband agreed we could try for a baby. We tried that time, but no dice.

Because I have a super irregular cycle, I'm gauging my "no dice" on the fact that it's now been two weeks since our week o' trying, and my pregnancy test today came back negative. I guess it's still possible that after two weeks I don't have enough hCG for the test to be positive, but I have a feeling that I'm not pregnant. I guess the OB can confirm it for me when I go next week.

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qentiox
Nov 8, 2005

I like dragons.

Longpig posted:

Got my period today (first since the miscarriage) so I guess it's try, try again now... My feelings are kind of mixed but I definitely want to move forward.

Good luck, Longpig. I got pregnant with my daughter 2 months after a miscarriage, so hopefully you won't have to wait long if you don't want to.

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