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rockcity
Jan 16, 2004
Not bad, but they look like bastardized versions of Joey L's photo shoot with protest the hero.

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Zoowick
Apr 9, 2007

Making fifteen year old girls looks like whores since 2006

rockcity posted:

Not bad, but they look like bastardized versions of Joey L's photo shoot with protest the hero.



You got it. Huge fan of his.

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004

Zoowick posted:

You got it. Huge fan of his.

Yeah, so am I. Now that I think about it, that would certainly explain why you were emulating the twilight photos for seniors. That Protest the Hero shoot was what got me into his work. I actually didn't know he did the twilight photos until a couple months ago when I saw a video from the shoot. A lot of my post production is based off of his methods. He is definitely on my "to meet" list if I ever get a chance.

man thats gross
Sep 4, 2004

Anti_Social posted:

That is really good lighting. I'm working on a concert I shot for fun a month ago at a local venue, and this is the best i've been able to coax out considering:



Noisy as hell. :(

low f/ = :)

buddhakitten
Aug 17, 2009

by Fistgrrl
Some shots from a few months ago. Andre Williams.





rockcity
Jan 16, 2004

buddhakitten posted:





Ya seeeeee the Jazz is like a Jello pudding pop.

man thats gross
Sep 4, 2004
Note to every musician ever: Wear white.

drat those shots look nice.

psylent
Nov 29, 2000

Pillbug
I did band promo shots for a friend's band ages ago and really had no idea what I was doing and wasn't at all happy with the results. I've learnt a lot about post-processing etc since then and I went back and had a look at what I'd done to see if I could improve them.





I made the rookie mistake of shooting in the middle of the day with some very harsh sun, but I really like how these look after editing.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
Jumps and hair tosses! Yay!





Henchman 21
Apr 3, 2005

HENCH 4 LIFE

HPL posted:

Jumps and hair tosses! Yay!


Do you mind if I ask what kind of setup your using?

Sadi
Jan 18, 2005
SC - Where there are more rednecks than people
I shot my first show the other night. Heres 3 of what I consider the best. I have a few other ones I thought were pretty good but I took them off flickr by accident and haven't bothered putting them back up. First lesson learned, bring ear plugs. Any way im not sure what post I should do on them if any at all. Id love to hear some input.




HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

KickStand posted:

Do you mind if I ask what kind of setup your using?

Canon 40D, Metz 58AF flash, various lenses.

Knux
May 18, 2003

ask me about my cock ring
Oh Sups Blink-182 / Fall Out Boy show





I met up with the photographer Joe Gall down there and he was kind enough to get a shot of me creepin' on Tom DeLonge:

man thats gross
Sep 4, 2004

Knux posted:



"E.T. Phooone Hooo- go gently caress yourself."

MMD3
May 16, 2006

Montmartre -> Portland

Sadi posted:

I shot my first show the other night. Heres 3 of what I consider the best. I have a few other ones I thought were pretty good but I took them off flickr by accident and haven't bothered putting them back up. First lesson learned, bring ear plugs. Any way im not sure what post I should do on them if any at all. Id love to hear some input.






man, DSLR's have changed the game sooo much. If I showed you photos from the first concerts I shot with a film SLR you'd question if I had any business owning a camera.

Pretty good shots for your first gig, a few small things. The first shot has too much room at the top, would benefit from a tighter crop even if it means losing the lights. Second shot captures the action well and is pretty good compositionaly considering the monitor in your way, only problem I have with it is that it's an awkward (unflattering) expression from the subject and your highlights are blown (pretty much unavoidable with harsh red light like this). Third shot is out of focus (easy to do when shooting at f/1.8, just something you'll get better at with practice.

Anti_Social
Jan 1, 2007

My problem is you dancing all the time

man thats gross posted:

low f/ = :)

The quickest lens I had was a 2.8 at this point. I wised up and bought the 1.4 prime the next day, and surprisingly love it.

man thats gross
Sep 4, 2004

Anti_Social posted:

The quickest lens I had was a 2.8 at this point. I wised up and bought the 1.4 prime the next day, and surprisingly love it.

Noice.

Knux
May 18, 2003

ask me about my cock ring

rockcity posted:

Jeremy Saffer is probably the best example I can give of that.

I'm a little bit late, but god do I hate that guy. Shai Hulud was pushing his book recently at a show and his work is just flat and boring.

Recently shot a promo some dudes who wanted that 'grunge' feel. Here is the original and edit. I normally don't use textures too much, but thought it fit well for what this band was going for.

Original:


Edit:

click for large/strobist info

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004

Knux posted:

I'm a little bit late, but god do I hate that guy. Shai Hulud was pushing his book recently at a show and his work is just flat and boring.

Damnit, not them too. I like those guys. My buddy drummed for them for a while.

And for another guy whose promos sucks way more than people will ever admit, Todd Owyoung.

Seriously, if I were slayer I'd have beaten him with my metal chains if he made us look this boring.



Hey, I have 7 lights, let's use them all at full power and just surround them so there's no depth to anything and no shadows anywhere. Yeah, that'll look awesome.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

rockcity posted:

Seriously, if I were slayer I'd have beaten him with my metal chains if he made us look this boring.

To be fair, just about all of Slayer's promo shots have been like that regardless of photographer.

Knux
May 18, 2003

ask me about my cock ring

rockcity posted:

Seriously, if I were slayer I'd have beaten him with my metal chains if he made us look this boring.

It's always really good and inspiring to see awesome photographers get the larger names and see what they can do with them. Joey L usually always pulls through with an awesome shot or idea, then matches it with killer lighting. But when one of those guys gets to shoot a name as monumental as Slayer and they pull some local lovely metal band style shoot, it just makes me think that it depends more on knowing the right people.

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004

Knux posted:

It's always really good and inspiring to see awesome photographers get the larger names and see what they can do with them. Joey L usually always pulls through with an awesome shot or idea, then matches it with killer lighting. But when one of those guys gets to shoot a name as monumental as Slayer and they pull some local lovely metal band style shoot, it just makes me think that it depends more on knowing the right people.

It really does, which sucks. Right now there are only a few names I really keep an eye on in terms of band promo photos. Joey L, Adam Elmakias, and my friend Nicole Rork.

As for Todd, I just think he has no idea how to use lighting. Everything is waaaay too evenly lit. He just surrounds them with flashes and blasts in a ton of light. It's boring as all hell. He mostly does it outdoor too which means he's matching the sunlight and it loses all depth between the subject and the background.

rockcity fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Aug 26, 2009

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
If you read the accompanying article, he had about three minutes to do the shots, so you're not exactly going to be getting the most personal of shots in that time. And like I said, Slayer has a fine history of "standing there" promo shots.

If I were to find fault with his promo shots, I would say that it's that he often puts subjects too far to the edge with ultra wide angle lenses and group shots so the people on the sides of the group end up being very distorted. He would probably be better served by using a narrower lens and backing up if space is available.

HPL fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Aug 26, 2009

nicolerork
Feb 9, 2009

rockcity posted:

As for Todd, I just think he has no idea how to use lighting. Everything is waaaay too evenly lit. He just surrounds them with flashes and blasts in a ton of light. It's boring as all hell. He mostly does it outdoor too which means he's matching the sunlight and it loses all depth between the subject and the background.

Agreed. He doesn't know how to use light evenly. All of his promos are way too bright and too wide. The subject just doesn't pop and I get bored. No emotion, no depth of field, etc. Wide angle works for landscape style promos (when the focus is more on the background than the band), but it doesn't work for portraits.

PS: Todd, if you read this, I'm not trying to knock you, I just feel you have a lot of potential and just aren't using it.

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004

HPL posted:

If you read the accompanying article, he had about three minutes to do the shots, so you're not exactly going to be getting the most personal of shots in that time. And like I said, Slayer has a fine history of "standing there" promo shots.

If I were to find fault with his promo shots, I would say that it's that he often puts subjects too far to the edge with ultra wide angle lenses and group shots so the people on the sides of the group end up being very distorted. He would probably be better served by using a narrower lens and backing up if space is available.

I agree with them just standing there, but still, he could have done a lot more set up work beforehand to dial in his lighting. Heck, you could even do some minor work on post to darken that up and add some drama to the photo. A lot of his photos could be made so much better by simply adjusting the power on some of his lights, or using less of them.

And I definitely agree with the thought of using a tighter lens and backing up. Wide angle all the time is boring and it gets distorted.

nicolerork
Feb 9, 2009

HPL posted:

If you read the accompanying article, he had about three minutes to do the shots, so you're not exactly going to be getting the most personal of shots in that time. And like I said, Slayer has a fine history of "standing there" promo shots.

I understand what you're saying, but if you know what you're doing, you'd only need three minutes to shoot. Some of my best photos were taken in under three minutes. Of course the setup and prep time took longer, but since I knew exactly what I was going for, the actually shoots were short and easy. Here's a few recent ones:

Set up time: 5 minutes. Shoot time: 2 minutes


Set up time: 3 minutes. Shoot time: 4 minutes


Set up time: 2 minutes. Shoot time: > 1 minute

nicolerork fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Aug 31, 2009

AtomicManiac
Dec 29, 2006

I've never been a one trick pony. I like to have a competency in everything. I've been to business school.
On the subject of Ear Plugs:

I'm 23 on Saturday, I've been in bands that practiced twice a week for 2 years, played about a dozen shows, and been to several hundred others since I was 15. I used to wear ear-plugs at practice with my metal band. I've never really had trouble hearing, the only time my ears ring is at big (1,000+ people) shows. Anywhere else is really about as loud as being in a car at 3/5-3/4 volume of the radio.

Granted it seems like a lot of you guys are shooting more of those big shows, I usually only go to the smallish local shows though.

rockcity
Jan 16, 2004

AtomicManiac posted:

On the subject of Ear Plugs:

I'm 23 on Saturday, I've been in bands that practiced twice a week for 2 years, played about a dozen shows, and been to several hundred others since I was 15. I used to wear ear-plugs at practice with my metal band. I've never really had trouble hearing, the only time my ears ring is at big (1,000+ people) shows. Anywhere else is really about as loud as being in a car at 3/5-3/4 volume of the radio.

Granted it seems like a lot of you guys are shooting more of those big shows, I usually only go to the smallish local shows though.

Yeah, most the shows I'm at are bigger than 1,000 people. If I don't wear ear plugs it's bad. I actually just had my doctor refer me to a specialist to have my hearing checked out to make sure I'm doing alright and that I didn't destroy too much of it when I was younger.

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

AtomicManiac posted:

On the subject of Ear Plugs:

I'm 23 on Saturday, I've been in bands that practiced twice a week for 2 years, played about a dozen shows, and been to several hundred others since I was 15. I used to wear ear-plugs at practice with my metal band. I've never really had trouble hearing, the only time my ears ring is at big (1,000+ people) shows. Anywhere else is really about as loud as being in a car at 3/5-3/4 volume of the radio.

Granted it seems like a lot of you guys are shooting more of those big shows, I usually only go to the smallish local shows though.

Hearing is one of those areas where you don't want to be pulling macho bullshit. You should be wearing ear plugs even if the music isn't absolutely blasting loud because once your hearing is gone, it's gone and your quality of life will suffer, especially if you end up with stuff like tinnitus. That's why a lot of long-time musicians regret not wearing ear plugs. Often smaller venues are worse for hearing damage than larger ones because you will be much closer to the speakers and generally the music isn't mixed as well so it may be overly harsh and damaging.

If you ever leave the venue, get in your car and find that you have to turn up the stereo from the level it was when you got out of the car in the first place, you should have worn ear plugs.

psylent
Nov 29, 2000

Pillbug
Are any other photographers here based in Sydney? I've got a feeling I'm probably the only one...

Knux
May 18, 2003

ask me about my cock ring


Another shoot from over the weekend with a local band. Spent a very good amount of time in getting the color to my liking. I made an animated (and compressed to hell) gif of the original/color corrected/and edited version:



Speaking of quick setups though, this was the first of five shots I was doing before we got kicked out of that place.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

psylent posted:

Are any other photographers here based in Sydney? I've got a feeling I'm probably the only one...

Nope, another Sydneyite here, but I've not been doing a whole lot of shooting of late.

Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project :roboluv: is go
Just finished scanning a batch of photos I took of a friend's band the other night, my first attempt at doing concert photography. Shot with Tmax P3200... I'm thinking it's time to hunt down a faster lens, though, my 50mm f2 was struggling in this light.



Dr. Cogwerks fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Aug 30, 2009

pwn
May 27, 2004

This Christmas get "Shoes"









:pwn: :pwn: :pwn: :pwn: :pwn:
Local band Letters From Earth, at a local venue, Friday night. I love shooting at this place, it's lit nicely and you can instantly get behind and beside the stage.










Set on Flickr

Shooting an all-day music festival today/tonight, it's a great weekend. :dance:

pwn fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Aug 30, 2009

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

Dr. Cogwerks posted:

Just finished scanning a batch of photos I took of a friend's band the other night, my first attempt at doing concert photography. Shot with Tmax P3200... I'm thinking it's time to hunt down a faster lens, though, my 50mm f2 was struggling in this light.

It looks like the lighting was pretty bad if you were running at 3200 with an f/2 lens and still getting results like that. What shutter speeds were you using? Really, a faster lens would get you the same results, just clearer because you'd still get wicked blown-out highlights and dark shadows with that kind of lighting.

I don't have any problem with using flash myself when the lighting is really bad. I figure that if the good lord intended me to never, ever use flash, he'd never, ever give me crappy lighting.

Dr. Cogwerks
Oct 28, 2006

all I need is a grant and Project :roboluv: is go

HPL posted:

It looks like the lighting was pretty bad if you were running at 3200 with an f/2 lens and still getting results like that. What shutter speeds were you using? Really, a faster lens would get you the same results, just clearer because you'd still get wicked blown-out highlights and dark shadows with that kind of lighting.

I don't have any problem with using flash myself when the lighting is really bad. I figure that if the good lord intended me to never, ever use flash, he'd never, ever give me crappy lighting.

Yeah, the lighting was awful. Small, dingy, cheap club with four overhead stage lights and nothing at all coming from the front... so dark I couldn't see my metering needle. Was shooting at about 1/60 wide open.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

1/60 at F2 3200 sounds like an average lovely-lit club, yeah. Gogo-gadget flash to the rescue.

Some recent stuff:

Frigate


Slapshot (who were 200% amazing)


It got pretty crazy 8)

evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Aug 30, 2009

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Just got my confirmation for Ben Folds!!!!! At the Opera House!!!!!

Holy poo poo!!!!!

psylent
Nov 29, 2000

Pillbug

2ndclasscitizen posted:

Just got my confirmation for Ben Folds!!!!! At the Opera House!!!!!

Holy poo poo!!!!!
Congrats :) Who are you shooting for?

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2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

psylent posted:

Congrats :) Who are you shooting for?

FasterLouder.com.au. Photos didn't turn out that great though. Could only shoot from the edges of the stage, the lighting wasn't that spectacular and it wasn't possible to get a clear of his face. Bugger.

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