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quote:keshik: what has the DOE ever done to you? And this whole "ECONOMICS IN ONE LESSON ECONOMICS IN ONE LESSON" business doesn't make him sound any more rational.
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# ? May 18, 2024 18:39 |
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Your friend is terrible. Also, I was wondering about this last bit here: quote:keshik: what if it infringes on peoples' property rights but not on their liberty I'm missing something here, and while it's probably something simple, it's eluding me.
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Plom Bar posted:Out of context or not, your friend is a monumental tool. but economics doesn't exist. There is no such thing as "economics". Milton Friedman has a degree in nothing. Nothing.
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Moinkmaster posted:Your friend is terrible. If people had true property rights, then the Emancipation proclamation would have been illegal. It specifically banned people from 'owning' their property and released all of it from custody. I guess that is what is said there in that clippit, but I didn't feel like going back for the context.
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Keshik, you have the patience of a saint. I doubt I could've gone through that conversation for more than a few minutes. I couldn't even finish the chatlog. This isn't a tl;dr or anything, I just think your friend is an idiot.
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Nekumi posted:Keshik, you have the patience of a saint. I doubt I could've gone through that conversation for more than a few minutes. I couldn't even finish the chatlog. This isn't a tl;dr or anything, I just think your friend is an idiot. If you want some live action fun, come over to https://www.tikilive.com and join the Fox News chatroom. It's nothing but ignorant Freepers spouting Fox talking points. It is quite fun to tear them to shreds with facts.
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friend: property rights are inherent to liberty keshik: EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION keshik: BOOM HEADSHOT
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quote:friend: and like anything - if someone wants something they should earn it gently caress you, got mine, but maybe you can count on me for charity?
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Isn't that all the Ayn Rand arguments? Ask him if he follows Ayn Rand, then ask if he supports the drug war. The funny thing about these emails, and the fact that whatshisname is creating a new fake one for kicks... is just maybe all the emails in this thread are sourced somewhere in the bowels of some other internet forum, with users cackling at the hilarity that their poo poo is getting sent around, and in turn sharing with each other the amazing stupidity of this new email they just got about federal prison camps.. ![]()
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Keshik, I hit my head against a literal brick wall while reading the transcript of you hitting your head against a figurative brick wall. I especially liked the bit where he was fine with a group of people getting together and doing it, but they can't use the word government because government is only there to support some vague and oversimplified idea of liberty.
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EDIT: Nm
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chesh posted:Keshik, I hit my head against a literal brick wall while reading the transcript of you hitting your head against a figurative brick wall. Yeah, that's the part where I was being way more polite than I felt was appropriate because my friend, who'd accused me of ignorance, clearly had no understanding of the concept of the social contract or of any political philosophy. But yeah, that really does represent the best of the arguments being produced by the right-wing. My friend works in our nation's capitol for a non-profit that specializes in training conservative political operatives. His mindset is what is being taught to hundreds of people who will work in the political arena and on the staffs of major policy makers. That is frightening to me.
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Keshik posted:Yeah, that's the part where I was being way more polite than I felt was appropriate because my friend, who'd accused me of ignorance, clearly had no understanding of the concept of the social contract or of any political philosophy. It reminded me a lot of the gay marriage debate. "Why, yes, of course gay people should have all the legal protections straight people get. Sure, they should be able to have a ceremony. DO NOT CALL IT MARRIAGE MARRIAGE IS A SACRED BLAH BLAH BLITTY BLAH." So I say let's give gays MAWIGE, and your friend GUMINT?
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Naet posted:FW:FW:FW:FW: SCARY!!! What the loving christ. I thought this was a fake one that you wrote up. I just received this email as a forward. Didn't you make this up? I thought you made this up! OH GOD ITS STARTING ALREADY
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Deuce posted:What the loving christ. I thought this was a fake one that you wrote up. Nope, it's real. I have to give props to the guy who sent it to me though. I sent him a polite reply telling him that the e-mail was full of poo poo and then linked him to the bill. Next time I saw him, he thanked me and said that even though he disagrees with UCH, he's not a fan of the propaganda coming from the right and didn't like how dishonest the e-mail was. I think he was a little taken aback about how many of those bullet points weren't even just misleading misinterpretations but straight up lies with no basis anywhere in the bill. Of course, his mother then told me that Oregon has socialized medicine and that they're literally letting dumpsters of sick babies die by the hour because the system is out of money and that if the fed was in control of health care, anyone not in the physical shape of an Olympiad would be thrown to a pack of wolves while Obama cackled maniacally.
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Kugyou no Tenshi posted:Of course not. What's surprising is that anyone hasn't already heard that entire "things heard at a travel agency" - I first saw it in '98 and I'm sure it goes back years before that. Well, you could fire one back filled with the vile "Someone needs to shoot the president" "There needs to be a terrorist attack" "The president is a racist" poo poo from the GOP.
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This is an original from my dad after I responded to a forward he sent me with one sentence that suggested that Fox News might have a slight bias much like the "state run media" he was villifying.Dad posted:Scott, Love you too, crazy. Pungent Mammy fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Aug 29, 2009 |
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I had some time off yesterday and took apart that "here's whats in HR3200 email." Edit: On second thought, I posted it in the Obamacare thread. Go here http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3178343&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=41#post365107556 Edit2: Does anybody know if the second half of this email actually exists? Deuce fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Aug 29, 2009 |
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Pungent Mammy posted:This is an original from my dad after I responded to a forward he sent me with one sentence that suggested that Fox News might have a slight bias much like the "state run media" he was villifying. Holy crap. That is slightly scary.
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Deuce posted:I had some time off yesterday and took apart that "here's whats in HR3200 email." That's taken from a website that 1000 right-wing blogs copied in order to create the illusion of truth (argumentum ad populum). I've debunked this nonsense several times myself. Nothing like comparing the actual text of the bill with what these clowns claim is says - since they would never bother doing that themselves. Good work.
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Pungent Mammy posted:This is an original from my dad after I responded to a forward he sent me with one sentence that suggested that Fox News might have a slight bias much like the "state run media" he was villifying. Your father is insane.
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quote:Simple logic should dictate that you cannot spend your way out of a recession. Did you know that the majority of “Cash for Clunkers” money is going to Toyota, Honda and Huyundi dealers, not Ford, GM or Chrysler. More jobs lost. You don't turn a company around to future profitability simply by paying off all its debts, and you don't turn an economy around that way, either. You can turn your personal, consumer finances around that way, but that's because personal finance doesn't produce anything. Turning all of your efforts toward paying down debt is called bankruptcy. In short, you do, in fact, spend your way out of debt. Also, nearly all of the "foreign" cars above are produced in the US by American workers. Interestingly, the Cash for Clunkers program has been a great success in terms of Keynesian deficit stimulus. The government pays to incentivize those who otherwise would have waited to buy a new car, new cars are sold, people remain employed. Typhoon Jim fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Aug 30, 2009 |
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the posted:Your father is insane. I say we systematically refute his letter and accompany our rebuttal with loud proclamations about what a horrible jerk he is in a vain attempt to get back at the millions of other horrible jerks who think just like him that we see on the tee vee. Who's with me?
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lothar_ posted:I say we systematically refute his letter and accompany our rebuttal with loud proclamations about what a horrible jerk he is in a vain attempt to get back at the millions of other horrible jerks who think just like him that we see on the tee vee. Who's with me? Naw man, let's grab our strawmen and go threadshit. It'll be awesome this time, I promise. Saying someone's father is insane would be an accurate assessment when the gent fires off an email saying quote:Well, that is what is going on, right now, with your country. Have your heard of Bill Ayers, The Weatherman Underground, The Black Panthers….etc. This President is surrounding himself with these kind unelected, un-vetted folks and those left in the Congress that are not part of this coalition of thieves, Communists, and criminals are afraid to question (or read) any legislation before voting on it.
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Don't normally post on D&D, but the making a fake chain letter seems like a fun project. I'm thinking....a 'God' gene that's been dying out, weakening the general US population... I've gotta say though, I'm surprised science hasn't been brought up in these chain letters. Anyway, this is my shot at a fake letter -------- The Holy Gene Dr, Edward M., PHD, Liberty University On the third autosomal chromosome, around the 13,000th ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/SCIENCE96/ ) base pair, lies a very special gene. This gene, according to our research, is responsible for HIGHER brain function, and its activity is most pronounced when in the act of prayer! Amplification of this gene seems to cause subjects to speak with God himself! This research has been both a secret, and a joint effort with several international HIGHER learning institutions as well, as this gene is also social in nature. We shared our gene findings with secret labs in Cuba and Russia during the Cold War ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War ). We compared the gene activity between several subjects: US Soldiers (Post-Vietnam), Citizens from Russia and Cuba, DEFECTORS from Russia and Cuba, and Students from University of California - Berkley ( http://www.berkley.edu ) What we found is remarkable! US Soldiers and Communist Defectors scored OFF THE CHARTS with the ability to pray to God, as facilitated by the power of this holy gene. (If some could make and label a graph for this, and the following paragraph, that would be amazing) But in the citizens of Russia and Cuba, as well as in the California students, the gene was no where to be found! It was simply gone, and the subjects simply weren't interested in praying. There were other things they considered more important for their time. We could have gone public 20 years ago with this information, but there was something else our scientists needed to check out.... We continued observing this God gene through times of strife in our nation, most notably, through elections. In the following graph, shows the gene activity in randomly selected AMERICAN students. ((Graph)) Notice something? Every time a godly politician, such as Ronald Reagan or George Bush is elected, our citizens are closely linked to God. Remember that this is a social gene; its efficacy is dependent on the population in which it resides, in our case, this great nation, The United States of America. But when we elect someone with COMMUNIST tendencies ( http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/presidents/williamjclinton/ ).... ((Graph of 1990 - 1993 )) Our biological link to His Lord weakens. But that's not the most troubling part. ((Graph of 2007 - 2009)) Recent samples from many of our students show that the gene is completely gone! After this election ( http://www.barackobama.com/ ), the gene itself has dwindled and gone so quickly that praying is considered WEIRD by our own children! There has never been a more extreme left-wing icon in office, and his mere presence seems to be irreparably damaging our youth to their VERY CORE! Please, as an educator, it is impossible for me to understate the need for our kids to have a holy direction in their studies and in life. Bring the power of prayer, part of the very core of our American beliefs, back to our nation. Bring it back to our children. By any. Means. Necessary ________________------
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pillsburysoldier posted:Don't normally post on D&D, but the making a fake chain letter seems like a fun project. I didn't spot the part about you making this up and thought this was legit until after I read it a second time. This is a great and horrible thing. Suggestion though, change the wikipedia link to conservapedia.
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Don't add to the problem! Anything crazy you make up, there's some dumb fucker out there who will believe it. Someone will honestly believe that commies are genetically incapable of religion and therefore don't have souls or something. If they don't have a soul, they aren't really people right? Hey, isn't Obama a communist? Don't stir the pot. It's already full of crazy.
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Deuce posted:Don't add to the problem! Anything crazy you make up, there's some dumb fucker out there who will believe it. Someone will honestly believe that commies are genetically incapable of religion and therefore don't have souls or something. If they don't have a soul, they aren't really people right? Let the masses do what they may with it. I wonder what units of measurement prayer would use in those graphs, though
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Mo_Steel posted:I didn't spot the part about you making this up and thought this was legit until after I read it a second time. This is a great and horrible thing. Suggestion though, change the wikipedia link to conservapedia. I was thinking about it at first when I put the entirely unnecessary link to information about the cold war, as if it's somehow too antiquated and esoteric that people don't know what it is now. Plus, it tips the hand a little too early that this is THAT goddamn retarded
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pillsburysoldier posted:Let the masses do what they may with it. The Jovi, of course. 1.21 GigaJovi gets a 6-year old girl a pony for her birthday. The better part is when you do a little arithmetic and see that anyone born during the Reagan era must've had that gene knocked out of their 'nome right from the start.
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quote:Joys of Muslim Women fuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkk
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Vilerat posted:fuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkk Pretty sure the ACLU would argue in favor of the rights of women.
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Vilerat posted:fuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkk
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In 20 years, the majority of the US is going to be Muslim? MY GOD, I better get quiverfilling!
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dphrag posted:"MY" GOD, I better get quiverfilling! ![]()
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BullitNutz posted:So, it is correct to assert the man's father has long slipped the surly bonds of sanity, as opposed to being a whole bunch of personal bitching about how big of a horrible jerk he (and TV personalities, as you lumped in when nobody has mentioned any in discussing the crazy dad email) is. No, not TV personalities, the people yelling and screaming at the town halls and holding up the "Obama = Hitler" signs. Those horrible jerks.
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pillsburysoldier posted:I wonder what units of measurement prayer would use in those graphs, though Well duh. The Graham.
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I don't believe I saw this yet. A friend of mine forwarded this to me (his crazy family sent it to him):quote:How's this for apocalyptic literature. This was written by a pastor's wife in biblical prose as a commentary of current events. It is brilliant.
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Vilerat posted:>> Only five defining forces have ever offered to die for you: I know its just a crazy email, but i felt slightly insulted that all the other countries whose soldiers have died arent good enough to be mentioned ![]()
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Because gently caress the French.
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