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Since they were promoting a Submissions Count Anywhere match with DX, and hyping DX as a team not tapping before tonight, I got to thinking: I don't think I've ever seen a tag team match end with a submission before. It seems really counter intuitive to the story of a normal tag match. I'm sure it's happened before, but when?
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They've ended in submissions plenty of times it's just not many people have any established submission finishers.
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Wazzu posted:Fixed. Big stupid muscle is an intergral and extremely important part of wrestleing, and Batista shouln't feel ashamed. Also, it's usually just too drat easy to break up a submission attempt in a tag match.
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TL posted:Since they were promoting a Submissions Count Anywhere match with DX, and hyping DX as a team not tapping before tonight, I got to thinking: I don't think I've ever seen a tag team match end with a submission before. It seems really counter intuitive to the story of a normal tag match. I'm sure it's happened before, but when? Back when WWE actually gave a gently caress about submission finishers, guys like Angle, Benoit, and Jericho won with their signature submission moves in tag matches all the time.
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TL posted:Since they were promoting a Submissions Count Anywhere match with DX, and hyping DX as a team not tapping before tonight, I got to thinking: I don't think I've ever seen a tag team match end with a submission before. It seems really counter intuitive to the story of a normal tag match. I'm sure it's happened before, but when? Big Show and Jericho vs Cryme Tyme
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It doesn't happen in WWE much because who the hell has sub finishers anymore? Not guys in dedicated tag teams.
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weekly font posted:It doesn't happen in WWE much because who the hell has sub finishers anymore? Not guys in dedicated tag teams. Chris Jericho 
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Sep 14, 2009 21:22
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Karmine posted:Chris Jericho Strike Force won the Tag belts with a submission victory over the Hart Foundation.
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Karmine posted:Chris Jericho Was not in a dedicated tag team until a month ago.
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Davros1 posted:Strike Force won the Tag belts with a submission victory over the Hart Foundation. 22 years ago?! That's what you're using for proof?
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Wazzu posted:He's being pretty drat great for the last few years. Not to knock Taker, but it's pretty easy for a wrestler with a decent talent set to produce quality matches when you're rarely expected to wrestle outside of PPVs.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:22 years ago?! That's what you're using for proof? Money Inc defeated The Natural Disasters by submission to win the tag belts, that recent enough for ya?
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TL posted:Since they were promoting a Submissions Count Anywhere match with DX, and hyping DX as a team not tapping before tonight, I got to thinking: I don't think I've ever seen a tag team match end with a submission before. It seems really counter intuitive to the story of a normal tag match. I'm sure it's happened before, but when? Didn't Masters tap out just last Monday?
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I think it has more to do with the decline of tag team wrestling in the WWE than anything.
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Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:I think it has more to do with the decline of tag team wrestling in the WWE than anything. I think what always hurt tag team wrestling was the brand split. Your rosters were too small to allow you to book several teams for each brand. Now that they have one tag title again its better because you have several teams currently in contention like Jerishow, Cryme Tyme, Legacy, MarkVP, DX, etc.
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Since I don't ask enough questions in this thread, here's a random one: Has there ever been a tag team or stable based on the Baseball Furies? I've never seen one, and for some reason I think it would be awesome.
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ICP. I think that's as close as you're gonna get.
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CubsWoo posted:Not to knock Taker, but it's pretty easy for a wrestler with a decent talent set to produce quality matches when you're rarely expected to wrestle outside of PPVs. So "Not to knock Taker but I'm going to knock Taker"?
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CombineThresher posted:Since I don't ask enough questions in this thread, here's a random one: They would have to sell baseball bats as their weapons and it would be even worse than HHH's sledgehammer of doom.
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ultimateforce posted:They would have to sell baseball bats as their weapons and it would be even worse than HHH's sledgehammer of doom. Sting had a baseball bat and he did okay with it. Hell, Sting was kind of a Baseball Fury in his rafter days.
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Batmanuel posted:Baseball Furry I have a gigantic mancrush on Kevin Burkhardt.
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Does R Truth sing his annoying loving song at House Shows? and has any audience member ever punched him in the face whilst hes been singing it?
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666sinders666 posted:and has any audience member ever punched him in the face whilst hes been singing it?  What's the deal with the red ropes? I know the WWF used red, white and blue ropes until sometime in the 90s. Was changing to red ropes only just part of the attitude era, or what was the reason for it?
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bradzilla posted:
at first it was just a change for the era, and now its more of a brand identifier; smackdown blue, ecw silver.
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I obsess over the whole rope color thing. Raw is red, SD is blue, ECW is silver. Which is fine. But then I got really hung up over the rope color on the PPVs. I liked when they used the black or white ropes for the big 4 shows, but then WrestleMania XXIV used red ropes and I got upset. Now I don't see any rhyme or reason to how they determine what ropes are used. Best I can think is that they'll use whatever fits their design for the show.
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TL posted:I obsess over the whole rope color thing. Raw is red, SD is blue, ECW is silver. Which is fine. But then I got really hung up over the rope color on the PPVs. I liked when they used the black or white ropes for the big 4 shows, but then WrestleMania XXIV used red ropes and I got upset. Now I don't see any rhyme or reason to how they determine what ropes are used. Best I can think is that they'll use whatever fits their design for the show. look more carefully, they had Orange Ropes. Citrus Bowl. Orange Ropes. 
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I'm all about rope color too, and I think for PPV they should be using something besides red and blue all the time. Summerslam is the only PPV I can recall this year other than red or blue ropes for PPV. Even Wrestlemania had standard Smackdown blue ropes. HiaC would be acceptable to have red ropes, since someone should bleed in those matches.
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bradzilla posted:I'm all about rope color too, and I think for PPV they should be using something besides red and blue all the time. Summerslam is the only PPV I can recall this year other than red or blue ropes for PPV. Even Wrestlemania had standard Smackdown blue ropes. HiaC would be acceptable to have red ropes, since someone should bleed in those matches. Judgement Day had white ropes too. I think they look better than the red or blue ones, but I'm glad they stopped using black ropes, they just look dingy.
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Sep 15, 2009 18:58
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I think the American Bash had red, white and blue ropes one year. That was pretty cool.
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bradzilla posted:I'm all about rope color too, and I think for PPV they should be using something besides red and blue all the time. Summerslam is the only PPV I can recall this year other than red or blue ropes for PPV. Even Wrestlemania had standard Smackdown blue ropes. cobalt actually. it was a much darker shade of blue.  
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grody but still def posted:cobalt actually. it was a much darker shade of blue. 
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blunt posted:He's not hitting his shoulder at all!
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Think of how much work it would be to keep kayfabe going with all the access fans have nowadays thanks tot he internet. Plus no seedy road stories and shoot interviews.
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Burrito posted:He's not hitting his shoulder at all! I was pointing out the rope color 
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Judakel posted:Think of how much work it would be to keep kayfabe going with all the access fans have nowadays thanks tot he internet. Plus no seedy road stories and shoot interviews. Which leads me to a question... Would the WWE or TNA ever open itself up to a real documentary? To see what people are really like backstage and see how wrestlers interact and live day to day? My guess is no.
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müse posted:Which leads me to a question... TNA would do that all the time, for no reason whatsoever.
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müse posted:Which leads me to a question... WWE allowed two backstage documentaries I can think of be made - Wrestling With Shadows and Beyond The Mat - and became upset with conflicting interpretations on what would and would not be filmed for both. Wrestling With Shadows in particular details quite clearly the Harts going over the planning for a match, inter-cut with scenes from the match itself, which I think upset Vince even more than the pro-Bret stance the documentary took.
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Is Zack Ryder the same person as this JR Ryder in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoWGiEMLWTY It's hard to get a good view of his face, but for some reason when Zack Ryder had long hair as part of the Major Brothers, I thought it was the same guy.
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Zack would have been about 16 in 2001.
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