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Uncle Ulty posted:Is Zack Ryder the same person as this JR Ryder in this video? JR Ryder... Didn't he invent the between the legs slam dunk?
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I'm happy cos Zack Ryder went from Chavo status to #1 contender status.
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Sep 16, 2009 11:37
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Veg posted:I'm happy cos Zack Ryder went from Chavo status to #1 contender status. Yeah, because Chavo was never involved in the ECW title scene.
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Sep 16, 2009 11:56
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Jerusalem posted:WWE allowed two backstage documentaries I can think of be made - Wrestling With Shadows and Beyond The Mat - and became upset with conflicting interpretations on what would and would not be filmed for both. Wrestling With Shadows in particular details quite clearly the Harts going over the planning for a match, inter-cut with scenes from the match itself, which I think upset Vince even more than the pro-Bret stance the documentary took. There was a documentary on one of the WM dvds, 20 or 21 it must be, it shows footage from an earlier year with Brock doing the shooting star which was 19? Its called The Mania of Wrestlemania. That has footage of them backstage before and after the matches. edit: http://www.wrestling101.com/101/newsitem/509/
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Ziggy Tsardust posted:Yeah, because Chavo was never involved in the ECW title scene. Chavo has been a jobber since he dropped the ECW title.
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When watching Japanese clips on youtube, while I don't understand the words, I like to think I can read the inflections and meter a little bit, and it seems very much like they're not in any way conversational. While I don't like WWE people talking over big moves, I think I'd get annoyed if the "commentary" was simply just guys running off the move names. What sort of thing do the Japanese guys talk about?
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Sep 16, 2009 23:50
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Captain Strange posted:While I don't like WWE people talking over big moves, I think I'd get annoyed if the "commentary" was simply just guys running off the move names. Don't listen to ECW Joey Styles...
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Sep 17, 2009 00:13
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Someone posted this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-l-oeDEPIk&NR=1 in another thread and it drummed up a couple questions of mine. 1) When was the last time WWE had an anti-American type heel? Was it Hassan/The Un-Americans, or was there someone more recent? I know sometimes a wrestler will get cheap heat by insulting whatever town they're in, and I know Regal recently made some crack about the US, but that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about it being an actual gimmick. 2) I remember hearing Hassan got actual death threats and it made me think of other stories of classic heels being harrassed by crazed marks. Does this still happen? When was the last instance? 3) Is it true Daivari actually spoke Persian?
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Over-Sold posted:Someone posted this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-l-oeDEPIk&NR=1 in another thread and it drummed up a couple questions of mine. Kozlov? quote:2) I remember hearing Hassan got actual death threats and it made me think of other stories of classic heels being harrassed by crazed marks. Does this still happen? When was the last instance? Chris Jericho last year. quote:3) Is it true Daivari actually spoke Persian?
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nyratk1 posted:Kozlov? nyratk1 posted:Chris Jericho last year. nyratk1 posted:Yes, he spoke fluent Farsi. edit: Does anyone remember a promo of his, probably when he was starting out, when he was getting heavy heat and, of course, the crowd started chanting U.S.A. and he just sort of looked at them  ly and said something along the lines of "I'm an American, idiots"? I might have made that up, actually, but I could swear something like that happened...
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Sep 17, 2009 06:45
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Over-Sold posted:See, I thought it might be him, but I don't really remember him being so much anti-American as much as pro-Russian, and I'm not going to hold a little bit of national pride against a guy (which I guess makes me a bad mark). I think he was more anti-American on Smackdown. Also, in some indy fed, Kofi had an anti-American gimmick. It was really weird seeing him heel it up. quote:Huh, I wouldn't've thought Jericho of all people. I mean, I know he's a good heel, but what exactly did he do that pissed someone off so much? Was it that incident where his car got rushed or something and he hit a woman? Yeah. quote:Does anyone remember a promo of his, probably when he was starting out, when he was getting heavy heat and, of course, the crowd started chanting U.S.A. and he just sort of looked at them nyratk1 fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Sep 17, 2009 |
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quote:Huh, I wouldn't've thought Jericho of all people. I mean, I know he's a good heel, but what exactly did he do that pissed someone off so much? Was it that incident where his car got rushed or something and he hit a woman? Some mark fans (I believe in Canada) got out of control and basically tried to dogpile Jericho/his rental car. I imagine this would happen more often if the arena security was always as hapless as it was in this instance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxM3nLleA9s quote:edit: Does anyone remember a promo of his, probably when he was starting out, when he was getting heavy heat and, of course, the crowd started chanting U.S.A. and he just sort of looked at them He would bring up that he was from Detroit a lot. At first it was sort of a "thinking man's gimmick" but anyone could see where it would eventually go, in the same way Jericho has become more of a subtle comedy heel as far as promos go, rather than a champion against Shawn Michaels and fan hypocrisy or whatever.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:
I noticed Jericho's recent change, with "I'm not gonna fight you either!" to Shaq and his willingness to take on Bob Barker. I guess this is them starting to maybe turn him face/comedy heel again, or at least planting some seeds for when he and Show finally break up. Back to Hassan though, I honestly though he was just going to be a regular blue chipper when his promos started and I was disappointed in people because I thought it was the fan's racism that made them turn him. If what you're saying is right, well, I guess that's just the usual stereotyping bullshit from WWE (and really all wrestling promotions) I've grown to grudginly accept and somehow that makes me feel a bit better about how things went down... though it probably shouldn't. Still, that man was a heat magnet, he could come back now and be the number one heel in WWE in about 2 weeks and never even need to hold a major championship.
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quote:Back to Hassan though, I honestly though he was just going to be a regular blue chipper when his promos started and I was disappointed in people because I thought it was the fan's racism that made them turn him. If what you're saying is right, well, I guess that's just the usual stereotyping bullshit from WWE (and really all wrestling promotions) I've grown to grudginly accept and somehow that makes me feel a bit better about how things went down... though it probably shouldn't. Still, that man was a heat magnet, he could come back now and be the number one heel in WWE in about 2 weeks and never even need to hold a major championship. Well all I'm saying is that WWE doesn't do "thinking man's heel" unless the heel is allowed to write his own material. And within the storybook fantasyland of WWE, the heel is still the bad guy even if his argument makes sense in some measure. So rather than being persecuted, Hassan was just being a jerk and picking fights with people who didn't have any problem with him to begin with, you see! U-S-A! Also in case you are not sped up on Hassan, the Undertaker essentially kayfabe killed him at Great American Bash '05 by Last Riding him through the stage. The guy who played him has pretty much dropped off the face of the Earth, not a peep from him that I can find since then--which suggests he either left on bad terms or decided to be a plumber or something.
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Over-Sold posted:I noticed Jericho's recent change, with "I'm not gonna fight you either!" to Shaq and his willingness to take on Bob Barker. I guess this is them starting to maybe turn him face/comedy heel again, or at least planting some seeds for when he and Show finally break up. Well, Shaq is 7' tall and Bob Barker is 85, so I can see why a guy would be willing to fight one and not the other...
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Sep 17, 2009 12:08
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Question: how many times has WWE rehashed the Montreal Screwjob? Off the top of my head I can think of Rock/Mankind Survivor Series Rock/Hogan II No Way Out Punk/Undertaker Breaking Point I'm guessing I'm missing some?
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reality_groove posted:Question: how many times has WWE rehashed the Montreal Screwjob? On top of the ones you mentioned, during the Rock/Benoit feud in the summer of 2000 they had a submission match on Raw with Shane McMahon (managing Benoit at the time) as the guest referee. Benoit got Rock in the crossface, and when Rock was trying to get to the ropes his hand brushed the canvas. Shane called for the bell. Another Benoit moment was at Backlash 2004 in Edmonton. There was a rematch of the WrestleMania XX main event, and Michaels got Benoit in a sharpshooter. Earl Hebner started freaking out, looking for all the world like he was gonna call for the ball whether Benoit tapped or not. The crowd ate it up.
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While Shawn Michaels was feuding with the McMahons, he had a match against Shane. They KO'd Shawn, put him in the Sharpshooter, and rang the bell.
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Honestly, at this point I think Montreal like the rest of the Wrestling World does not give a poo poo about Bret. Its just one of those things that has become part of the wrestling shows and the crowd loves being a part of it, hell Shawn does too.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky_b-RLCWVY Osaka Screwjob
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Axissillian posted:Honestly, at this point I think Montreal like the rest of the Wrestling World does not give a poo poo about Bret. Its just one of those things that has become part of the wrestling shows and the crowd loves being a part of it, hell Shawn does too. Yeah Shawn is just a good performer and knows hes going to get it in Montreal so he plays along, but the crowd just chants it because they can, most of them never even saw Bret wrestle...
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Slaapaav posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky_b-RLCWVY Favoring without watching yet.
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Dr. Video Games 0055 posted:They were both in the lower midcard, but the WWE clearly wanted them to be headlining in the near future. Evolution was their grand plan to do this. Sorry to rehash the Evolution talk, but does anyone remember the dirtsheets talking about Triple H's four horsemen variation for the year+ leading up to them actually forming? I remember Mark Jindrak was heavily rumored to be a part of it. Then I want to say there were a few other guys, maybe Lance Cade or Sean O'haire? I just remember the dirtsheets having a blurb about Triple H's upcoming group for quite awhile before they actually debuted. Then I remember something happening where both Orton and Batista were finalized as members before Wrestlemania 19, but then they both seemed to get hurt within a few weeks of each other.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Also in case you are not sped up on Hassan, the Undertaker essentially kayfabe killed him at Great American Bash '05 by Last Riding him through the stage. The guy who played him has pretty much dropped off the face of the Earth, not a peep from him that I can find since then--which suggests he either left on bad terms or decided to be a plumber or something. Probably bad terms; according to Lance Storm, Hassan was an rear end in a top hat who couldn't wrestle and was always getting hurt, and given the short shelf life of that type of character, he didn't go out of his way to secure longterm employment for himself.
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666sinders666 posted:Does R Truth sing his annoying loving song at House Shows? and has any audience member ever punched him in the face whilst hes been singing it? I sure hope he's not there - I'm going to a house show this Sunday. Background: I stopped watching wrestling from the beginning of 2002-around the 2009 Royal Rumble. Perusing YouTube, I found a couple clips with Triple H involved in some sort of racist angle with Booker T, which also seemed to involve Vince dropping the 'N' word talking to Cena with Booker T nearby. I know in today's pretty PG wrestling world this wouldn't fly but what the hell was the reaction to this back when it first aired?
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Shitty_Wok posted:I sure hope he's not there - I'm going to a house show this Sunday. The Booker T storyline was absolute bullshit. The entire time leading up to his match against HHH for the WORLD TITLE at Wrestlemania 19, Triple H constantly cut "your kind don't get to win championships at mania. You're just supposed to entertain us and make us laugh." The entire buildup had it done in a way that Booker T HAD to win the title. Then a few days before Mania, everyone found out Goldberg was signing with WWE so they just had HHH retain in the worst possible way. He hits the Pedigree, HHH collapses, rests for about 10-20 seconds, rolls over, covers Booker, gets the 3. Made Booker T look like a total joke and like he didn't belong anywhere near the main event. Add in to the fact that Goldberg and HHH didn't even start feuding until the summer, and it's even more baffling. It makes no sense why they couldn't have given Booker at least a 30 day reign or something.
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Shitty_Wok posted:which also seemed to involve Vince dropping the 'N' word talking to Cena with Booker T nearby. This was pretty much glossed over. tangental question: was there ever a booker T "Can you dig it suckaaaaa" tshirt that looked like the old ipod commercials and had him looking at his hand and doing the hairshake or am I just making that up? Katie Cou Baby Boo fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Sep 19, 2009 |
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Well then, I can't say as I'm sad I missed it. I guess I also dodged a bullet with the HHH-Kane corpse-banging storyline. Man, what happened to you HHH? You used to be cool a decade ago.
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Nobody mentioned it but Vince saying "nigga" and the HHH/Booker feud were not related and in fact happened years apart from each other. HHH/Booker was 2003 and Vince saying my nigga was 2005.
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I got the idea that we should compile a list of, say, the 100 top defining moments in wrestling. If this has been done, we could always do an updated version since some recent important poo poo has happened. Would there be any interest in doing this? Has it been done? If so, what thread/s has it spawned? This might make me actually get archives. Also, what is the irc channel? I swear I read the rules and FAQ 20 times and missed it.
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The Berzerker posted:Nobody mentioned it but Vince saying "nigga" and the HHH/Booker feud were not related and in fact happened years apart from each other. Ah, ok. The videos didn't have dates that I could see, and I just figured they were around the same time.
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Batmanuel posted:I got the idea that we should compile a list of, say, the 100 top defining moments in wrestling. If this has been done, we could always do an updated version since some recent important poo poo has happened. Would there be any interest in doing this? Has it been done? If so, what thread/s has it spawned? This might make me actually get archives. I'm game, but would it be in a serious manner, such as "Austin 3:16" and the Montreal Screwjob, or in a joking, mocking manner, such as D-X bested the entire Spirit Squad and mailing them to OVW?
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Batmanuel posted:Also, what is the irc channel? I swear I read the rules and FAQ 20 times and missed it. #wrestling on SynIRC
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The Taker segment on Smackdown was hilarious and I'm trying to think of other times people have being kidnapped in limos, ambulances and other automobiles. Of the top of my head, I can think of: Undertaker and Steph Kane and Shane Kane and Lita (or was it Matt Hardy?) Kane and Paul Bearer by DX Cactus Jack by DX Can anyone think of any more?
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:The Taker segment on Smackdown was hilarious and I'm trying to think of other times people have being kidnapped in limos, ambulances and other automobiles. Of the top of my head, I can think of: not sure if this fits but the time dx showed up on raw in a limo and owen dives through the roof and they drive off.
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Moose Bigelow posted:not sure if this fits but the time dx showed up on raw in a limo and owen dives through the roof and they drive off.
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grody but still def posted:you know looking back, the DX vs Owen feud was some good stuff unfortunately they had owen do the "look how tough i am when i snarl" face aka the diego sanchez.
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