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Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
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Paul MaudDib posted:

Doesn't Rodinal age pretty fast once it's been opened, though?

Negative. I have a six or seven year old open bottle of Rodinal that still works just fine. I never topped it off with Dust-Off, stored in it glass bottles. It's just been sitting in the original white plastic bottle.

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caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I was at a camera store and they were selling a whole bunch of film bodies of various conditions at the bargain bin for around 70 bucks. I found a EOS Kiss and the mirror looks good (not sure about sensor the sensor is the film itself right?) and I am really interested in getting it. However, what should I be noticing when I get old used film bodies? The shutter condtion (might need to replace?), the light meter (not really matters)?

caberham fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Sep 18, 2009

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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The KISS is a film camera. There's probably a reason it's in the bargain bin. $70 is way too much for one, also. The shutter condition is probably impossible to assess, I would guess that there's no way to read it out without factory equipment on film bodies. The light meter will probably be fine unless it's a really ancient camera with a selenium meter, but you can just stick a lens on and see if it picks something reasonable for the shutter/aperture. Unless it's an old selenium meter, don't worry about accuracy, it will either work or not, pretty much.

Hot Dog Day #20
May 5, 2004
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caberham posted:

I was at a camera store and they were selling a whole bunch of film bodies of various conditions at the bargain bin for around 70 bucks. I found a EOS Kiss and the mirror looks good (not sure about sensor the sensor is the film itself right?) and I am really interested in getting it. However, what should I be noticing when I get old used film bodies? The shutter condtion (might need to replace?), the light meter (not really matters)?
I'm pretty sure it was an entry level SLR when it was new, you can pick up a much more fancy Canon body for $70 on KEH.

Laser Cow
Feb 22, 2006

Just like real cows!

Only with lasers.
Yay, went to my girlfriends parents house for dinner. Came back with a Nikon FG and some lenses. It's dirty as hell, the shutter was jammed and it hasn't been used in 20 years but the internet told me that the shutter wasn't jammed (just having a quiet moment to itself) and the batteries from my Centon DF-300 made it go so hurrah for free camera stuff no matter how old. Will buy it a new UV filter tomorrow as the current one is 20 years of pitted filth and then see how it handles some out of date Superia 200.

Sadly it also means that the Centon that has served me well for the last fifteen years light meter is hosed as it only shows over range now matter where I point it. I had hoped it was the battery but a bit of digging for a manual on-line has shown that this is not the case.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Hot Dog Day #20 posted:

I'm pretty sure it was an entry level SLR when it was new, you can pick up a much more fancy Canon body for $70 on KEH.

I live in Hong Kong so KEH and other online stores is not a viable option for me. Prices are on average 75% of what the retails stores are offering. At least Hong Kong supposedly has a bunch of camera stores but the selection is a hit and miss. Sometimes I wish I had a Nikon system so I could buy old used lenses instead of looking at piles of FD.

killabyte
Feb 11, 2004
Blue Horeshoe Loves Anacot Steel

Paul MaudDib posted:

Doesn't Rodinal age pretty fast once it's been opened, though?

My own experience says "no", because I have been using the same bottle for 5 years with no ill effects. Here's a thread on photo.net to the same effect.

http://photo.net/black-and-white-photo-film-processing-forum/008kEQ

It really is a fantastic developer. It's very easy to mix, and you only have to worry about the temperature of the water, and not the developer, since you use so little of it. It's very economical as well.

Laser Cow
Feb 22, 2006

Just like real cows!

Only with lasers.
Arse, my rescued Nikon FG appears to be full of disintegrating seals. Does anybody have any experience of replacing seals, how easy is it exactly, was considering using something like this. Anybody done this before or have any better ideas?

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

Mickey Eye posted:

Arse, my rescued Nikon FG appears to be full of disintegrating seals. Does anybody have any experience of replacing seals, how easy is it exactly, was considering using something like this. Anybody done this before or have any better ideas?

Run a test roll through. It may not need seals depending on how the camera is designed. Old Pentax cameras are good that way.

krnhotwings
May 7, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Mickey Eye posted:

Arse, my rescued Nikon FG appears to be full of disintegrating seals. Does anybody have any experience of replacing seals, how easy is it exactly, was considering using something like this. Anybody done this before or have any better ideas?
The interslice seal kits are nice. I recently replaced the seals and mirror-dampening foam thing for my FM2n using the kit. The kit comes with pretty nice instructions and is easy to apply. But taking the foam and gunk off is a complete pain in the rear end. It took me a good 3 hours or so to finish the job, mostly because I had a hard time taking the old stuff off the camera...

Educated Eggdicator
Sep 4, 2006
I just came upon an ad on kijiji and I'm wondering if anyone can identify any of the cameras in the picture http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-Cameras-W0QQAdIdZ156739519

Is there anything worth picking up? The topmost one in the middle seems especially fancy.

Laser Cow
Feb 22, 2006

Just like real cows!

Only with lasers.

HPL posted:

Run a test roll through. It may not need seals depending on how the camera is designed. Old Pentax cameras are good that way.

The mirror cushion is falling apart quit hideously so I think that no matter what something has to be done, the back plate seals are crumbling but maybe intact enough. Problem is the mirror has been jammed up against the dampener for 20 years till I fixed it. I think it's just something that will have to be done.

krnhotwings posted:

The interslice seal kits are nice. I recently replaced the seals and mirror-dampening foam thing for my FM2n using the kit. The kit comes with pretty nice instructions and is easy to apply. But taking the foam and gunk off is a complete pain in the rear end. It took me a good 3 hours or so to finish the job, mostly because I had a hard time taking the old stuff off the camera...

Cool, that's useful. I have access to a pretty well tooled up workshop at my job so I shouldn't have trouble doing the work. Did you use any kind of solvent on the old glue or what?

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

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Would a Beseler 67C for $50 with assorted darkroom supplies (vague ad, have to go check it out) be good? It doesn't look like it has a dichro head, and I'm also not sure how well it would handle printing 6x6 and 6x7. No idea what lens (presumably it has one) is mounted.

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

Educated Eggdicator posted:

I just came upon an ad on kijiji and I'm wondering if anyone can identify any of the cameras in the picture http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-Cameras-W0QQAdIdZ156739519

Is there anything worth picking up? The topmost one in the middle seems especially fancy.

One of them looks like a Yaschica Electro, which is a pretty decent 35mm rangefinder although a bit on the big and heavy side. For the most part they can't handle fast film though. The orangeish one on the furthest right is most interesting to me although I have no idea what it is, maybe a Polaroid? Some of them can be converted to 4x5. I wouldn't pay more than $50 for the lot of them at any rate, especially if you don't have the ability to test them out.

pseudonordic
Aug 31, 2003

The Jack of All Trades
Last weekend I brought my EOS 3 and 430EX to a party. It was a themed party in honor of the movie we were watching that night. 1950's dress (optional) for the Hitchcock masterpiece "The Rear Window."

I shot on three rolls of film:

1 Roll of Arista II 400 @ ISO 400
1 Roll of Arista II 400 @ ISO 800
1 Roll of Arista EDU 100 @ ISO 400

I developed all three rolls at the same time using Diafine (thanks Clayton Bisby!) and fixed w/ Kodak Rapid Fix.

I scanned them with my Epson V500 and didn't do anything fancy.

My favorites are:





The rest are here: http://3l337.org/gallery/Hitchcock_Party

Gnomad
Aug 12, 2008

Paul MaudDib posted:

Would a Beseler 67C for $50 with assorted darkroom supplies (vague ad, have to go check it out) be good? It doesn't look like it has a dichro head, and I'm also not sure how well it would handle printing 6x6 and 6x7. No idea what lens (presumably it has one) is mounted.

For 6x6, you'd want a 75mm lens, and make sure you would be getting the 6x6 and 6x7 negative carriers. I don't think you'd need a dichro head for BW, and honestly, having done color printing in the past, I'd scan and print on a good inkjet befor messing with that again.

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
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Pompous Rhombus posted:

One of them looks like a Yaschica Electro, which is a pretty decent 35mm rangefinder although a bit on the big and heavy side. For the most part they can't handle fast film though. The orangeish one on the furthest right is most interesting to me although I have no idea what it is, maybe a Polaroid? Some of them can be converted to 4x5. I wouldn't pay more than $50 for the lot of them at any rate, especially if you don't have the ability to test them out.

The Electros are pretty cool, I own a bunch of them (two GSNs and a GT). The GSNs and GTNs, in particular, can support up to EI/ISO 1000 and produce nice images overall. In good working condition, a GSN might be worth $30-50 by itself, but it's hard to test them out completely without the battery (which requires an adapter you can buy on eBay, at Yashica Guy, or DIY).

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

this seems like an appropriate place to share this link:

http://tokyocamerastyle.com

i've been drooling for 45 minutes already

Dad Hominem
Dec 4, 2005

Standing room only on the Disco Bus
Fun Shoe

caberham posted:

I live in Hong Kong so KEH and other online stores is not a viable option for me. Prices are on average 75% of what the retails stores are offering. At least Hong Kong supposedly has a bunch of camera stores but the selection is a hit and miss. Sometimes I wish I had a Nikon system so I could buy old used lenses instead of looking at piles of FD.

I paid 700HKD for an EOS 50 from a used store here, and then my friend got one for about half that on KEH. Is there anyone you know in the US that can help you pick one up?

Alternatively, I'm pretty sure I've seen secondhand entry level AF SLRs like the Kiss on sale in places like Sham Shui Po (Apliu Street) and Tsim Sha Tsui (Champagne Court) for under 300, though quality may vary.

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
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dorkasaurus_rex posted:

this seems like an appropriate place to share this link:

http://tokyocamerastyle.com

i've been drooling for 45 minutes already

Lollin' at "It's a Nikon. The lens proves this fact." with the Japanese porn mosaic. I love that E-P1 with what looks like an FD f/1.2 on there, too. What would the effective focal length be, around 90mm?

Is this site some sort of setup? Because if not, Japanese people have the best taste in cameras EVER. I can't imagine seeing anyone in San Diego carrying around a Voigtlander, Ricoh GR1, or mint Nikon F2.

Laser Cow
Feb 22, 2006

Just like real cows!

Only with lasers.

Pompous Rhombus posted:

The orangeish one on the furthest right is most interesting to me although I have no idea what it is, maybe a Polaroid?

Polaroid SX-70 or similar I believe. My mum used to have one of those back in the day, great fun. I'd take that in a jiffy if I thought I'd be able to get film for it.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

Mickey Eye posted:

Polaroid SX-70 or similar I believe. My mum used to have one of those back in the day, great fun. I'd take that in a jiffy if I thought I'd be able to get film for it.

I have it. It's pretty nifty. Good luck finding SX-70 film though.

fronkpies
Apr 30, 2008

You slithered out of your mother's filth.
Am I missing anything from my shopping list? (only the essentials for the minute, budget is tight)

Paterson universal tank
Paterson auto loading reel
Kodak HC110 (1 litre)
Ilford hypam fixer
Set of 41oz graduate cylinders
Thermometer
Syringe

Tri-x

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
You probably want Photo Flo or its equivalent, and some clothespins to hang/weight your drying film.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

this seems like an appropriate place to share this link:

http://tokyocamerastyle.com

i've been drooling for 45 minutes already
Some of the poo poo people walk around with is pretty amazing
What's even more amazing is that quite a few walk around with no film loaded :eng99:

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Fronkpies, you might want to invest in a small funnel if you're going to be pouring a batch of fixer back into its' container, as you should. Go to a dollar store and pick one up. I think it's essential because good luck pouring that smelly poo poo back into a thin necked bottle otherwise.

If you have an iPhone get either the Massive Dev Chart app ($5) or [other cheaper one I don't remember the name of] timer apps. If you don't have an iphone you can probably find some kind of app for your PC, or just use a stopwatch or something. This is an essential because you pretty much need to know how long you're developing.

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Sep 20, 2009

dunno
Sep 11, 2003
If only he knew...

Radbot posted:

Is this site some sort of setup? Because if not, Japanese people have the best taste in cameras EVER. I can't imagine seeing anyone in San Diego carrying around a Voigtlander, Ricoh GR1, or mint Nikon F2.

Japan also has a long history of film camera culture, and a really vibrant, fantastic used market as a byproduct, as well as shops selling film that look like this:

pseudonordic
Aug 31, 2003

The Jack of All Trades

Martytoof posted:

Fronkpies, you might want to invest in a small funnel if you're going to be pouring a batch of fixer back into it's container, as you should. Go to a dollar store and pick one up. I think it's essential because good luck pouring that smelly poo poo back into a thin necked bottle otherwise.

Quoting this to remind myself I need one. When I developed the film yesterday, the fix left my entire house smelling like catfood.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

dunno posted:



Holy mother of gently caress.

hybr1d
Sep 24, 2002

I took my Bronica ETRSi and Nikon Coolpix to the beach today in medium-high surf. I finally know the difference between film and digital... when you drop your viewfinder from the Bronica in the drink, you can rinse it and clean it off, and it's fine. When seawater splashes on your Coolpix, you need a new camera :)

SquallStrife
Jan 20, 2009

"The Goon" by Metanaut.

Mickey Eye posted:

Will buy it a new UV filter tomorrow

Don't waste your money, just take it off. :)

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3163404 (first post)

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine

Martytoof posted:

Holy mother of gently caress.

http://www.photoness.de/yodo_analog/

And yeah, tokyo camera style is a great blog, I've been following it for awhile, and it makes me so jealous.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
... and I have to custom order HP5+ in 120 from my local store :(

Japan :argh:

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

Reichstag posted:

http://www.photoness.de/yodo_analog/

And yeah, tokyo camera style is a great blog, I've been following it for awhile, and it makes me so jealous.

Well I am punching the very next japanese person I meet in the face. I want a supermarket produce section full of film.

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
Probation
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8th-samurai posted:

Well I am punching the very next japanese person I meet in the face. I want a supermarket produce section full of film.

I was browsing around that album... and boy, if that film is as expensive as their cameras, I'll have to mortgage my house to buy some of it. They're charging the equivalent of over 50 bucks for a vanilla Holga!

Laser Cow
Feb 22, 2006

Just like real cows!

Only with lasers.

Radbot posted:

I was browsing around that album... and boy, if that film is as expensive as their cameras, I'll have to mortgage my house to buy some of it. They're charging the equivalent of over 50 bucks for a vanilla Holga!

I probably shouldn't mention that I paid 130 dollars for a Holga in Oslo then? Norway sucks.

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
Probation
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Mickey Eye posted:

I probably shouldn't mention that I paid 130 dollars for a Holga in Oslo then? Norway sucks.

I'll trade you a Holga for healthcare ;)

Ghost Mutt
May 10, 2009
I just got my first roll of film developed today (DNP Centuria 200) and pretty much everything turned out like this. I was using a Voigtlander Vito Automatic and was manually controlling the aperture (which is all you can do + focus).





It looks really overexposed obviously, but as you can see, its also really blurry. Is there anything that looks mechanically wrong or is it most likely I just suck?

dunno
Sep 11, 2003
If only he knew...

Mickey Eye posted:

I probably shouldn't mention that I paid 130 dollars for a Holga in Oslo then? Norway sucks.

Most people pay more than that because they end up buying something lomo branded and resultantly marked up. The gift shop at the big local art gallery was selling the coloured flash ones for over $110.

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SquallStrife
Jan 20, 2009

"The Goon" by Metanaut.

beastathon posted:

I was using a Voigtlander Vito Automatic
...
It looks really overexposed obviously, but as you can see, its also really blurry. Is there anything that looks mechanically wrong or is it most likely I just suck?

That looks to me like the shutter was open for too long... You can see the trails.

It's possible that the shutter isn't moving as fast as it's supposed to, perhaps?

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