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Toasticle
Jul 18, 2003

Hay guys, out this Rape
First line was his comment

quote:

Words fail. . . . . . yes we can. L

Subject: ACTUAL POLICE PHOTOS - Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words...

The New Fashion Rage In Mug Shots

These are actual Police Photos...too funny.

Just think about this for a second: Did you ever see anyone arrested wearing a Bush T-shirt, or for you older guys, an Eisenhower, Gerald Ford, Ronald Reagan, or even Nixon, or Bob Dole shirt?

Obama must be proud of his supporters!

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bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
You should ask him if Ken Lay was wearing pro-Bush underwear when he was arrested. Heh.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre
This is how real people do it:
http://images.chron.com/blogs/whitehouse/archives/tom-delay-mugshot.jpg

Gripen5
Nov 3, 2003

'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.
I've never seen someone wearing an Obama T-shirt before this email. It's called selection bias. Glad we have a nice email about it.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
There isn't a "(NOT RACIST)" big enough.

EngineerSean
Feb 9, 2004

by zen death robot
I guess some judge got in trouble for having that email tacked up on the public bulletin board at the court, I'll see if I can find the story.

Found it!
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/11/lubbock-poster-obama/

Toasticle
Jul 18, 2003

Hay guys, out this Rape

RagnarokAngel posted:

There isn't a "(NOT RACIST)" big enough.

Thats nothing, he sent me a copy of "Dangerous Demographics" which is a 8 minute infomercial on how brown people are outfucking us. All I remember from it is a reproduction rate of 1.3 is "not reversable" and islamics produce at a rate of 8.3 or something. It's like a racist Civ IV expansion or something.

FEAR THE BETTER CHILD PRODUCING ISLAMIC

Found it on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou5iaVSw_dE

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Toasticle fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Sep 29, 2009

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Toasticle posted:

Thats nothing, he sent me a copy of "Dangerous Demographics" which is a 8 minute infomercial on how brown people are outfucking us. All I remember from it is a reproduction rate of 1.3 is "not reversable" and islamics produce at a rate of 8.3 or something. It's like a racist Civ IV expansion or something.

FEAR THE BETTER CHILD PRODUCING ISLAMIC

Found it on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou5iaVSw_dE



Wow this is...horrifying.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Toasticle posted:

Thats nothing, he sent me a copy of "Dangerous Demographics" which is a 8 minute infomercial on how brown people are outfucking us.

FEAR THE BETTER CHILD PRODUCING ISLAMIC


So what's he doing? Is he doing his part? How many yowling progeny has he produced for the White Race?

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

Toasticle posted:

Thats nothing, he sent me a copy of "Dangerous Demographics" which is a 8 minute infomercial on how brown people are outfucking us. All I remember from it is a reproduction rate of 1.3 is "not reversable" and islamics produce at a rate of 8.3 or something. It's like a racist Civ IV expansion or something.

FEAR THE BETTER CHILD PRODUCING ISLAMIC

Found it on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou5iaVSw_dE



Silly Racists, everyone knows babies are born atheists! :science:

Slaan fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Sep 29, 2009

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

BullitNutz posted:

Far be it from me to question why they think universities are hotbeds of liberal thought, then.
Marxists infiltrated them in the 60s, have run them ever since. Duh.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




dphrag posted:

In the future, the cute sounding girl at the pizza place will be able to see that you are, in fact, impotent.

Enjoy your sprout sub, loser!

This is from a couple pages ago, but I personally thought that the fact she knew he was going on vacation with his wife, was impotent, and still needed a 48 pack of Trojans was the best part.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
I don't get crazy political emails. I get crazy political phone calls. My Mom was pissed, PISSED that Obama was flying AF1 on government money to promote Chicago's Olympic bid, and he should have just showed up via video or something.

"If he wants to promote Chicago, he should do it on Chicago's dime."

unnoticed
Nov 29, 2005

That's odd...
Hope this hasn't already been posted. A Juggernaut of craziness. Has pretty much everything. I even took the time to upload the images for the full experience. Enjoy:

quote:

How's this for apocalyptic literature. This was written by a pastor's

wife in biblical prose as a commentary of current events.

It is brilliant.

------------------------



And it came to pass in the Age of Insanity that the people of the land

called America, having lost their morals, their initiative, and their

will to defend their liberties, chose as their Supreme Leader that

person known as 'The One.'



He emerged from the vapors with a message that had no meaning; but He

hypnotized the people telling them, "I am sent to save you. My lack

of experience, my questionable ethics, my monstrous ego, and my

association with evil doers are of no consequence. I shall save you

with hope and Change. Go, therefore, and proclaim throughout the

land that he who proceeded me is evil, that he has defiled the nation,

and that all he has built must be destroyed." And the people rejoiced,

for even though they knew not what 'The One' would do, he had promised

that it was good; and they believed. And 'The One' said, " We live in

the greatest country in the world. Help me change everything about it!"

And the people said, "Hallelujah! Change is good!"



Then He said, "We are going to tax the rich fat-cats." And the

people said "Sock it to them!" "And redistribute their wealth." And

the people said, "Show us the money!" And then he said,

"redistribution of wealth is good for everybody."



And Joe the plumber asked, "Are you kidding me? You're going to

steal my money and give it to the deadbeats??" And 'The One'

ridiculed and taunted him, and Joe's personal records were hacked and publicized.

One lone reporter asked, "Isn't that Marxist policy?" And she was

banished from the kingdom!



Then a citizen asked, "With no foreign relations experience and

having zero military experience or knowledge, how will he deal with

radical terrorists?" And 'The One' said, "Simple. I shall sit with

them and talk with them and show them how nice we really are; and they

will forget that they ever wanted to kill us all!" And the people

said, "Hallelujah!! We are safe at last, and we can beat our weapons

into free cars for the people!"



Then 'The One' said, "I shall give 95% of you lower taxes." And one,

lone voice said, "But 40% of us don't pay ANY taxes. So 'The One'

said, "Then I shall give you some of the taxes the fat-cats pay!"

And the people said, "Hallelujah! Show us the money!"

Then 'The One' said, "I shall tax your Capital Gains when you sell

your homes!" And the people yawned and the slumping housing market

collapsed. And He said, "I shall mandate employer-funded health care

for every worker and raise the minimum wage. And I shall give every

person unlimited healthcare and medicine and transportation to the

clinics." And the people said, "Give me some of that!"

Then he said, "I shall penalize employers who ship jobs overseas."

And the people said, "Where's my rebate check?"



Then 'The One' said, "I shall bankrupt the coal industry and

electricity rates will skyrocket!" And the people said, "Coal is

dirty, coal is evil, no more coal! But we don't care for that part

about higher electric rates." So 'The One' said, "Not to worry. If

your rebate isn't enough to cover your expenses, we shall bail you out.

Just sign up with the ACORN and your troubles are over!"



Then He said, "Illegal immigrants feel scorned and slighted. Let's

grant them amnesty, Social Security, free education, free lunches,

free medical care, bi-lingual signs and guaranteed housing..." And

the people said, "Hallelujah!" and they made him king!



And so it came to pass that employers, facing spiraling costs and

ever-higher taxes, raised their prices and laid off workers. Others

simply gave up and went out of business and the economy sank like unto

a rock dropped from a cliff.

The banking industry was destroyed. Manufacturing slowed to a

crawl. And more of the people were without a means of support.



Then 'The One' said, "I am 'the One'- The Messiah - and I'm here

to save you! We shall just print more money so everyone will have

enough!" But our foreign trading partners said unto Him. "Wait a

minute. Your dollar is not worth a pile of camel dung! You will have

to pay more..." And 'The One' said, "Wait a minute. That isn't

fair!!" And the world said, "Neither are these other idiotic

programs you have embraced. Lo, you have become a Socialist state and

a second-rate power. Now you shall play by our rules!"



And the people cried out, "Alas, alas!! What have we done?" But yea

verily, it was too late. The people set upon 'The One' and spat upon

him and stoned him, and his name was dung. And the once mighty nation

was no more; and the once proud people were without sustenance or

shelter or hope. And the Change 'The One' had given them was as like

unto a poison that had destroyed them and like a whirlwind that

consumed all that they had built.



And the people beat their chests in despair and cried out in anguish,

"give us back our nation and our pride and our hope!!" But it was too

late, and their homeland was no more.

(image was too big here for waffleimages, but its an animated gif of biden, hillary, barack and michelle dancing in a car)

You may think this a fairy tale, but it's not.

It's happening RIGHT NOW



THIS really tells it like it is. After reading it -- and before you go into the bathroom to throw-up -- forward it to your friends and those you know who care about our country and what is happening to it under the rule of Commissar Obamanation.

P.S. -- Yeah, this is too true to be funny. Tragic, but not funny; tragic but true.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


unnoticed posted:

Hope this hasn't already been posted. A Juggernaut of craziness. Has pretty much everything. I even took the time to upload the images for the full experience. Enjoy:
I like how it isn't at all written like biblical prose, except maybe the first sentence, despite the description.

also, shit_that_never_happened.txt

sword_man.gif
Apr 12, 2007

Fun Shoe
I'm too lazy to re-copy the stock photos of Cosby and re-create how the text keeps changing size/color but this entire thing is just stupid.


quote:

Bill Cosby has done it again..............HE HAS MY VOTE.

Bill Cosby has done it again...
Nothing we haven't all said.. but not so eloquently.
BACK TO CASH AND CARRY WOULD HELP ALSO!
Bill Cosby has a great way of "distilling" things. Looks like he's done it again!


AMERICA NEEDS A CANDIDATE WITH THIS PLATFORM!!


I HAVE DECIDED TO BECOME A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT IN THE YEAR 2012..


HERE IS MY PLATFORM:

(1). Any use of the phrase: 'Press 1 for English' is immediately banned. English is the official language; speak it or wait outside of our borders until you can.

(2). We will immediately go into a two year isolationist attitude in order to straighten out the greedy big business posture in this country. America will allow NO imports, and we'll do no exports. We will use the 'Wal-Mart 's policy, 'If we ain't got it, you don't need it.' We'll make it here and sell it here!

(3). When imports are allowed, there will be a 100% import tax on it coming in here.

(4). All retired military personnel will be required to man one of the many observation towers located on the southern border of the United States (six month tour). They will be under strict orders not to fire on SOUTHBOUND aliens.

(5). Social Security will immediately return to its original state. If you didn't put nuttin in, you ain't gettin nuttin out. Neither the President nor any other politician will be able to touch it.


(6). Welfare. -- Checks will be handed out on Fridays, at the end of the 40 hour school week, the successful completion of a urinalysis test for drugs, and passing grades.

(7). Professional Athletes -- Steroids? The FIRST time you check positive you're banned from sports ... for life.

(8). Crime -- We will adopt the Turkish method, i.e., the first time you steal, you lose your right hand. There is no more 'life sentences'. If convicted of murder, you will be put to death by the same method you chose for the victim you killed: gun, knife, strangulation, etc.

(9). One export of ours will be allowed: wheat; because the world needs to eat. However, a bushel of wheat will be the exact price of a barrel of oil.

(10). All foreign aid, using American taxpayer money, will immediately cease and the saved money will help to pay off the national debt and, ultimately, lower taxes. When disasters occur around the world, we'll ask The American People if they want to donate to a disaster fund, and each citizen can make the decision as to whether, or not, it's a worthy cause.

(11). The Pledge of Allegiance will be said every day at school and every day in Congress.

(12). The National Anthem will be played at all appropriate ceremonies, sporting events, outings, etc.

My apology is offered if I've stepped on anyone's toes .... nevertheless....


GOD BLESS AMERICA!


Sincerely, Bill Cosby



Please forward this to everyone you know, no matter which side of the fence they're on.

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005
That was posted on the previous page. But yeah, the stupid never stops.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre
This has been on snopes for at least a year as I forwarded the link over a year ago to my parents.

Gripen5
Nov 3, 2003

'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.
I take it that it was not authored by Cosby.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

Gripen5 posted:

I take it that it was not authored by Cosby.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/platform.asp

quote:

BILL COSBY IS NOT A WRITE-IN CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT

I am not a write-in candidate for President. The statement purportedly from me stating that I am a candidate is a hoax. The platform attributed to me (and at various times to Robin Williams, Andy Rooney and George Carlin) does not represent my views and in many respects is abhorrent to me. Apparently those bloggers and websites who continue to spread this hoax do not care to do even minimal fact checking.

sword_man.gif
Apr 12, 2007

Fun Shoe
I thought I had seen a couple things (especially the isolationist thing) on there before with very similar wording.

Sorry bout the repeat

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out
Just got this one from my girlfriend's parents. It's not blowing anyone out of the water, it's just stupid

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL BUT, I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MONTHS, I FIND I SAVE MONEY!!!! AND THE PRODUCTS ARE JUST AS GOOD OR SOMETIMES EVEN BETTER.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD!!!!



GOOD REMINDER =======




Good idea . . . one light bulb at a time . . . .

A physics teacher in high school, once told the students that while one grasshopper on the railroad tracks wouldn't slow a train very much, a billion of them would . With that thought in mind, read the following, obviously written by a good American .


Good idea . . . one light bulb at a time . . . .

Check this out . I can verify this because I was in Lowes the other day for some reason and just for the heck of it I was looking at the hose attachments . They were all made in China . The next day I was in Ace Hardware and just for the heck of it I checked the hose attachments there . They were made in USA . Start looking .

In our current economic situation, every little thing we buy or do affects someone else - even their job . So, after reading this email, I think this lady is on the right track . Let's get behind her!

My grandson likes Hershey's candy . I noticed, though, that it is marked made in Mexico now . I do not buy it any more . My favorite toothpaste Colgate is made in Mexico now . I have switched to Crest . You have to read the labels on everything .
This past weekend I was at Kroger. (Can be true for any store.) I needed 60W light bulbs and Bounce dryer sheets . I was in the light bulb aisle, and right next to the GE brand I normally buy was an off brand labeled, "Everyday Value . " I picked up both types of bulbs and compared the stats - they were the same except for the price . The GE bulbs were more money than the Everyday Value brand but the thing that surprised me the most was the fact that GE was made in MEXICO and the Everyday Value brand was made in - get ready for this - the USA in a company in Cleveland , Ohio .

So throw out the myth that you cannot find products you use every day that are made right here .

So on to another aisle - Bounce Dryer Sheets . . . yep, you guessed it, Bounce cost more money and is made in Canada . The Everyday Value brand was less money and MADE IN THE USA! I did laundry yesterday and the dryer sheets performed just like the Bounce Free I have been using for years and at almost half the price!

My challenge to you is to start reading the labels when you shop for everyday things and see what you can find that is made in the USA - the job you save may be your own or your neighbors!

If you accept the challenge, pass this on to others in your address book so we can all start buying American, one light bulb at a time! Stop buying from overseas companies!

(We should have awakened a decade ago . . . . . . )

Let's get with the program . . . . help our fellow Americans keep their jobs and create more jobs here in the U . S . A .
The same applies to doing business locally, support your local stores and ask them to buy American

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
No-name products that are cheaper and just as good as name brand items? Why i never heard anything so crazy!

Diogines
Dec 22, 2007

Beaky the Tortoise says, click here to join our choose Your Own Adventure Game!

Paradise Lost: Clash of the Heavens!

That Cosby thing..... drat, there has bee a lot of stupid crap in this thread, but that takes a large chunk of cake.

I think I can feel my brain cells dying.

Vilerat
May 11, 2002

quote:

•If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one.
•If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he feels that no one should have one
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•If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat.
•If a liberal is, he wants to ban all meat products for everyone.
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•If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
•A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
•If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
•If a liberal is homosexual, he loudly demands legislated respect.
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•If a black man or Hispanic man is conservative, they see themselves as independently successful.
•Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.
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•If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
•A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
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•If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
•Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
•If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
•A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God or religion silenced.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
•If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
•A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

Well when they put it that way...

Ortsacras
Feb 11, 2008
12/17/00 Never Forget

Vilerat posted:

If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
•Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

Oh come the gently caress on.

Capn_Marrrrk
Apr 12, 2007
Yarrrr!
Note: This is a long loving post. And I like to think it's point is to show both the Loony Email and my attempt to deal with said Loony.

If this is too much or too E/N let me know and I'll either reformat it or dump it.

Here's the email that came from my father-in law and the ensuing bullshit that entailed when I finally got sick of his countless FW:

Read Below Please:


I will continue the boycott to not mail with this stamp.
It is really off the mark-
Others will be doing the same- I Buy the universal stamp.
I received this info from someone else.

Harv
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Can you believe this????? Obama has done it again!! We always wondered about his Muslim background.
USPS New 42-Cent Stamp!!! Celebrates Muslim holiday.


If there is only ONE thing you forward today... let it be this!


REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of Pan Am Flight 103!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon !

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the military Barracks in Saudi Arabia !

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American Embassies in Africa !

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack on 9/11/2001 !

REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks!


Now President Obama has directed the United States Postal Service to REMEMBER and HONOR the EID MUSLIM holiday season with a new commemorative 42 Cent First Class Holiday Postage Stamp.

REMEMBER to adamantly & vocally BOYCOTT this stamp, when you are purchasing your stamps at the post office.

All you have to say is "No thank you, I do not want that Muslim Stamp on my letters!"

To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors.

REMEMBER ~
Pass this along to every Patriotic AMERICAN that you know and let's get the word out !!!

Here is something to chew on...


They (MUSLIMS) don't even believe in Christ, & they're getting their own Christmas stamp! BUT, don't dare to dream of posting the ten commandments on federal property! This is truly UNBELIEVABLE


This was my response:

quote:

Hey, what about the about the Muslim Americans who died serving in Iraq and Afganistan? http://www.scribd.com/doc/8744179/American-Muslim-Soldier-Kareem-Rashad-Sultan-Khan-died-in-Iraq Or the other Muslim Americans who help this country run.

Plus...This is an ubran legend which is untrue: http://www.snopes.com/politics/stamps/eidstamp.asp

"The U.S. Postal Service originally issued its Eid stamp commemorating the Muslim holidays Eid al-Fitr (marking the end of Ramadan) and Eid al-Adha (marking the end of the pilgrimage to Mecca) on September 1, 2001 as part of its multicultural Holiday Celebrations series."

You sir, dishonor America with your blatant racists blather.

Then he went totally apeshit. Here are a few things you should know about Harvey. A)He moved out to Mid Missouri ostensibly to prepare for the end of the world. He won't openly admit it, but he's said things along the line of, "Civilization collapses you can stay on the farm." B)He's my wife's step-father and I've heard him say to his wife: "Your ex-husband is from Italy, and that's close to Africa where they had a lot of trade. So your ex-probably likely has some friend of the family blood in him." C) Once, not too long ago, while at the farm my Mother in Law was casually tossing around the word friend of the family. When we told her it was a bad word (she's a foreigner ) she said she didn't know that because Harvey says that all the time.



quote:

Marrrrk,
 
In my opinion, I believe that those muslims who died in Irag were fighting for their own Iraqi country and possibly the USA and rightly so.  I thoroughly resent being called a racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  If I were, then you as a Jew would be on my list too.  Wake up man, I'm not racist.  I don't care what color, race  nationality or religion someone is as long as they don't damage my country or my family.  I have black friends also. I only care what a person stands for and does that is important. 
 
You want to stand up for the president that you and you lib friends voted in.  Well you will rue the day.  I'm tired of having our tax money spent to bring those mistreated Palestinians to the USA. I'm tired of Obama bowing to Arab rulers.  I'm tired of taxpayers supporting Obama's favorite charity the ACORN!  I and millions of others don't want a poor healthcare system installed like Europe & Canada have where you have to get in line.  I'm tired of the camel in the tent approach of big goverment.  Wilson was right when he said the president lied because healthcare for the illegals was in the original bill.  Guess what, we already have healthcare for illegals by giving them care through the schools.  I know that the kids need care but do you want to pay taxes for any form of care, social security or other programs they can get while helping the Democrats to stuff the ballot boxes?
 
And what about Queen Pelosi that has to have her own large airplane after chiding CEOs for coming to DC in their corporate aircraft?  Wy are their no complaints in the press about this waste of taxpayer money?
 
What about the Democrats sham upset about Wilson's outburst destroying the DECORUM of the presidential speech.  When they booed the former president speech before the house?  Where is the memory for tha or is it OK because libs are arrogant & condescending of any one's right to free speech.
 
Why won't the big media touch the multiple true Acorn exposes?  Why, because big media is in bed with the lib movement no matter how rotten to the core it is.
 
If Snope says that this Muslim stamp story is a hoax, you should be able to understand that it is easy for people to jump on this as fact since so many other abuses are being heaped upon the public day & day out.
 
You know Marrrrk you are just short of STUPID to call me a racist-spewing-blatherer when all that Ana & I have tried to do & probably will do for you and wife.  You spout the ususal lib crap that no one else can have an opinion.  The previous message was sent as a BCC.  This one wil be sent as a To:  NO ONE GETS TO CALL ME RACIST - I have worked with more races & religions than you have ever seen across this world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  


:argh:

I really opened up a HUGE can of poo poo here. No one EVER sees themselves as the Bad Guy, especially the Bad Guy. So realizing he sent this to everyone on his mail list. So what was a one off, now has gone public. Perhaps I could have used a little more tact, but sometimes you are just tired of this poo poo.

quote:

Hi Harvey,
I've given it much thought and a little research and I realize that you are not a racist. I apologize for calling you a racist. It was my misinterpretation of the word and I was wrong for calling you so.

I'm not going to get into the politics of the email, just know I am "You Liberals". Remember, not everyone walks lock-step with the political party of choice. But from a political standpoint, you and I will never agree, so let's just leave it at that.

Now the important part of the email is this. I love you and Anabela and I respect you both. You have acted more a family to me than my own family and I cherish that. However, that doesn't mean I hold you up to be saints, perfect in thought and deed. And while I love you and think you are the Bee's Knees, I am going to call you out for sending me a bigoted email.

Does this email of anti-Islamic rhetoric reflects your views of the Muslim population of the United States?

A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one who regards or treats members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.[1] Bigotry is the corresponding mindset or action.
The term bigot is often misused to pejoratively label those who merely oppose or disagree with the devotion of another. The correct use of the term, however, requires the elements of obstinacy, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing devotion.

Now remember, this doesn't mean I don't love and respect you, it means I disagree with this mindset and I think it is wrong of you to feel this way about all Muslims.
Sending this email about the stamp is tacit agreement with this mindset and you ignore the fact that there are millions of law abiding, tax paying Muslims who don't want to destroy America. http://is.gd/3nHsq .

Now if you don't agree with this, and think that every Muslim in the United States is out to wreck the American Way of Life then you're a Bigot, plain and simple. It is possible to be a Bigot and still be loved and respected by your family. That just means, there is one quality out of many admirable ones, that I don't like.

For everyone else. Please remember this.

1. Think carefully about if what you are forwarding will be of value (accurate information — check for hoaxes @ Snopes.com), appreciated (something the recipient needs) or humorous (do they have the same sense of humor as you do) to the person on the other side. Or do you just think it is worthy? If you cannot think of why the person you are forwarding to would like to receive the email – then don’t forward it. If on company time using company e-mail — think not twice, but three times if forwarding is worth the risk of your on the job credibility and professionalism being diminished.
2.
3. It should go without saying (But I have to say it because folks do so anyway.) that forwarding of chain letters; regardless how noble the topic may seem, virus warnings or anything that says “forward to everyone you know” simply shouldn’t be forwarded because in most cases it is plain old B.S. (again check before forwarding @ Snopes.com). Email is email–there is no chain to break or continue–no cause or effect whether you do or not. Also, the fact is not all commentary will be appreciated by the other side if they have a different viewpoint than you do–be very careful here.

Harv, I love you irregardless of this issue and appreciate everything, and every care you've ever shown me.


quote:

Hi Marrrrk,
 
No, I do have the mindset of a bigot   Showing alarm to celebrating the Muslim religion via stamps is the concern.  And yes the Christian and Jewish religons have had stamps commemorating various holidays.   There is nothing wrong with allowing the Muslim, Jewish, Christian religion to be practiced here in the USA.  Religious freedom was one of the cornerstones of the founding of this country.
 
However I am very concerned with the religious fanatics within the Muslim religion.  The Bush administration rushed to assure the Arabs and the world that this was not a crusade to wipe out Arabs and rightly so.  However they do not see it that way, whether a learned opinion from the first crusades or the following colonialism.  They now have our money since the Greenies have effectively blocked oil & gas recovery in the USA.  Now the Arab clerics see the opportunity to branch out into the world to preach hate & conquest and have the money to do it.
 
The Bush administration further stated that the Muslim religion was a religion of peace in order to prevent as much anti defamation here in the US as possible and calm the non-muslim world
too.  However, those who have been exposed to the teachings and who have studied the Koran carefully have exposed the "Peace Lie".  The Koran approves the killing of any non-Muslim even if that person is an aetheist or agnostic.  Translation your are muslim or you are dead.  The Koran also approves a muslim to lie to any non-muslim to further muslim objectives.
 
Marrrk, you have several times in my prescence disallowed your Jewish heritage as a choice.  I instead think & support that Israel with the Jewish religion are a religion of peace that does not seek to conquer the world.   You as a free individual with the freedoms provided by the USA can choose to not recognize the religion of your heritage.  Not so in other countries (including previously non Muslim African countries)  - you are Muslim or you are dead.
 
My alarm comes from seeing the infiltration of Europe by the Muslims. When their numbers grow great enough, they make demands of the country to allow them special privileges.  When they don't get their way initially, the terroist activity seems to magically start.  They have no interest in adopting the culture of the host country contrary to what our own legal immigrants
did.  Their's is a movement of stealth aided and abetted by the ignorance of the resident populist.
 
So Mark, unless liberals want to see the world dominated by Muslims, they had better change their tacit or overt agreement with allowing Muslims to start demanding their way here.  The forthcoming day of prayer in DC is their way of showing their muscle and of getting various factions together.  You want to bet on the goals to be initiated in the back room conferences that will take place when the key clerics and closest faithful are finally gathered together in DC?
 
So Mark, in order for a liberal to cope with any conservative, it is necessary to trot out an easy label.  However, I'm not a bigot nor a racist so what label do you want to try to apply next?  Liberals are so quick to play the race card in order to get conservatives on the defensive - well that is not working so well any more!  The race card is pulled when libs have only emotion to work with and not the real facts.  The most recent instance, besides you, was our Jimmy Carter coming to Obama's aid by saying that the millions in the streets of DC were really protesting a BLACK president and not healthcare.  Gee, don't you think that  a lot of those people voted for Obama for Change (but they don't want the Change they are getting).  Do you think the biased broadcast media missed the chance for showing "anti-black" signs on TV?
 
The truth is Mark, I am an anti-socialist and have been since my high school days when most of my classmates didn't even understand or care about the direction of the government or even what socialism meant. 
 
Let me ask you about the end result liberals are seeking, that is when true liberalism has been achieved?  Let's see if that end result matches with the Muslim movement.  In my opinion, socialism (also known as liberalism & also known as Big Government) is a disease that ends in mass sameness with individual initiative ultimately squelched.  An example is post war Europe.  The people there seem to have become numbed by their "cradle to crave security".  Here we seem to have the aim of extending that to "conception to resurection". Why did that happen in Europe:  High taxes, the desire for total security after WWII, fear of a Communist takeover all degenererated into big government, lethargy & why rock the boat   But now their boat is being rocked by the Muslim movement.  I believe our time is coming next.
 
Well enough of trying to put labels on me - I've had to hand a label to you.  Protestations of  the love and respect you profess for the family is severly damaged by such an unwarranted attack on a non-Snope approved e-mail put together by someone with their own agenda.  When I was clicking down the BCC list, I clumsily and unintentionally added your name to the list.  I'm well aware that your mind is made up too, and sending it to you would be useless.
 
But since this became an open airing, I'm throwing this dialogue open to all CC list people who wish to add to or correct my positions.   If they are not interested in entering this dispute, (which is probably useless also), so be it. I will honestly forward the comments of all individuals - if the individual gives me express permission to do so, otherwise their comments shall remain anonymous.  This is not just a family dispute, but one that affects all of us - not only the ones of outspoken opinions.  So what say you?


Of course there really is no dialog here. I have to wonder about what his source is for "The Peace Lie" as it seems to me that there are plenty of non-radical Muslims who just want to be left the gently caress alone to go about their business. The rest of the email is madness. I'm not retired, I don't have days to looks poo poo up and refute every point. I would say that he sounds like one big talking point, but I'd be wrong. He's taken the talking points, digested them and made them his world view. And here I think we live in two entirely different worlds. Everything he believes I think the complete opposite. It's weird.

I also find it strange that he mentioned "Snopes Approved" email. I didn't know until I came here that there was a Snopes is Liberal FW going around. It makes me think of Cults that tell you not to listen to your family because they will dissuade you from the True Path.

quote:


Hi Harv,

Sorry for the delay, but it took a couple of days to digest the personal aspects of your email. You're right, I am very quick to draw my guns and fire on anyone. Look, as a rule in general, I don't have a lot of opinions on things, but something about perceived bigotry really sets me off.
My father used to own a clothing store that specialized in Black fashion, and I used to work for him. It really bothered me that he, my stepmother, step brother and sister used to refer to the clientele as "Them." For example, "Oh you know how They are. You have to watch Them at all times or else They'll rob you blind." So yes, it was a complete knee jerk reaction that may have been laying dormant for 20 years, and it just so happens you triggered that explosion. That my family believed this doesn't mean that I didn't love them, I did, I just didn't agree with their view of race. That's unconditional love, and it's the same emotion I feel towards you and the rest of the Schulte family, even if I'm quick to jump your case.

My family's view of race pissed me off to no end, and to me, that's exactly how that stamp email reads. Irregardless of your mindset on the matter, it's not one man's opinion and name calling, it's a matter of definition. That email is the round peg that fits in the round hole defined by bigotry. This is not a "you liberals" definition, this is a dictionary definition.

You claim you are not a bigot, and based on that, I'll believe you and apologize from the bottom of my heart for saying you were, but the stamp email is by all definitions bigoted. Even so, if you get down to the bottom of the stamp email where it mentions Jesus Chist, Christmas and the 10 Commandments, this email turns into a  not so subtle Pro-Christian screed. I am forced to ask if the writer of the email is him/herself, not a fanatic of a different stripe. In my opinion, all religions are a mind-virus that seeks to dominate the host world and remake it in their image, whether Muslim, Jewish (the "Chosen" people), or Christians of all denominations. But again, I'm talking about the email and not about you for having sent it.

I'm not going to address the rest of the this last email because I'm not fully up on all my research, and everything I would say is a matter either of uninformed opinion or cherry picked from my sources. So on that we'll have to just disagree. The whole Socialized Medicine thing is a huge mess, and the arguments fall outside of reason when the rhetoric gets ratcheted up.


And we agree to disagree. The fact of the matter is, I lied my rear end off to keep the family peace. I have almost no respect for the guy. You can't keep blindly sending these emails out that are indeed racist/bigoted etc and not lose the respect of your family?

Capn_Marrrrk
Apr 12, 2007
Yarrrr!
Of course you think my father in law would know better than to keep sending me these FW: but 2 days later I got another one:

quote:

I would love to give the Pastor of this predominantly black church in Virginia a hug and a high
five. This guy is obviously a leader and not one of the sheep. Perhaps we should each decide who our real leader is.. It
is amazing to see that very little has changed in 4,000 years.
> > >


RECENT VIRGINIA CHURCH SERVICE -STIMULUS SERMON

Gen 47:13-27
> > >
Good morning, brothers and sisters; it's always a delight to see the pews crowded on Sunday
morning, and so eager to get into God's Word. Turn with me in your Bibles, if you will to the 47th chapter of
Genesis, we'll begin our reading at verse 13, and go through verse 27.
(Reading from Bible) > > > > > > >
& ;nbs p;
So we see that economic hard times fell upon Egypt , and the people turned to the government of Pharaoh to
deal with this for them. And Pharaoh nationalized the grain harvest, and placed the grain in great storehouses that he
had built.


So the people brought their money to Pharaoh, like a great tax increase, and gave it all to him willingly in return for grain.
And this went on until their money ran out, and they were hungry again.

So when they went to Pharaoh after that, they brought their livestock -their cattle, their horses, their sheep, and their donkey -

to barter for grain, and verse 17 says that only took them through the end of that year..

But the famine wasn't over, was it? So the next year, the people came before Pharaoh and admitted they had nothing left,

except their land and their own lives. "There is nothing left in the sight of my lord but our bodies and our land. Why
should we die before your eyes, both we and our land? Buy us and our land for food, and we with our land will be
servants to Pharaoh.." So they surrendered their homes, their land, and their real estate to Pharaoh's government, and
then sold themselves into slavery to him, in return for grain. What can we learn from this, brothers and sisters?

That turning to the government instead of to God to be our provider in hard times only leads to slavery?
Yes. That the only reason government wants to be our provider is to also become our master? Yes!



But look how that passage ends, brothers and sisters!

"Thus Israel settled in the land of
Egypt , in the land of Goshen . And they gained possessions in it, and were fruitful and multiplied
greatly." God provided for His people, just as always has! They didn't end up giving all their possessions to
government, no, it says they gained possessions!

But I also tell you a great truth today, and an ominous one. We see the same thing happening today - the government
today wants to "share the wealth "once again, to take it from us and redistribute it back to us. It wants to take
control of healthcare, just as it has take control of education, and ration it back to us, and when government
rations it, then government decides who gets it, and how much, and what kind. And if we go along with it, and
do it willingly, then we will wind up no differently that the people of Egypt did four thousand years ago -
as slaves to the government, and as slaves to our leaders.

What Mr. Obama's government is doing now is no different from what Pharaoh's government did then, and
it will end the same. And a lot of people like to call Mr. Obama a "Messiah," don't they?


Is he a Messiah? A savior? Didn't the Egyptians say, after Pharaoh made them his slaves, "You have saved our lives;

may it please my lord, we will be servants to Pharaoh"?

Well, I tell you this - I know the Messiah; the Messiah is a friend of mine; and Mr. Obama is no Messiah!
No, brothers and sisters, if Mr. Obama is a character from the Bible, then he is Pharaoh.


Bow with me in prayer, if you will.
Lord, You alone are worthy to be served, and we rely on You, and You alone. We confess that the
government is not our deliverer, and never rightly will be. We read in the eighth chapter of 1 Samuel, when Samuel
warned the people of what a ruler would do, where it says
"And in that day you will cry out because of your king, whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the LORD will not
answer you in that day." And Lord, we acknowledge that day has come. We cry out to you because of the
ruler that we have chosen for ourselves as a nation. Lord, we pray for this nation. We pray for revival, and we pray

for deliverance from those who would be our masters. Give us hearts to seek You and hands to serve You, and protect

Your people from the atrocities of Pharaoh's government.

In God We Trust...

<

My repsonse

quote:

After a quick search I must say: I find it odd that A) This quote was not attributed to anyone. No one says who preached it. B) No one says what church it was. C) There's no proof that that is was even said in either a predominantly black church, nor that it was even in Virginia. D) No one is claiming to have been there to hear it, or transcribe it.

I find it odd that people are passing this message around as proof of someone's leadership without actually having proof.

Personally, I think this whole sermon it's a work of fiction that uses out of context religious texts to sway the minds of the readers. A little research, I mean a smattering of research shows that even if the bible were true and taken as historical writ...you have follow the story to it's conclusion (from King James Bible. Exodus 1)

8Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.

9And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we:

10Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.

11Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.

So what happened was one Pharaoh rescued the Jews by giving them land, who then offered up 1/5 of their crops as thanks for Land and multiplied. http://is.gd/3BlNw Then along came another Pharaoh who didn't know the agreement, was threatened by the Jews, who then decided to make them their slaves.

What is means is that in the metaphor and the comparison of Obama to Pharaoh is false. There is no logical sense in the story nor how it could possibly apply to Obama. The Jews became slaves only when Pharaoh feared the people.

Please Harvey, please...Stop sending me this stuff.

Oddly enough, for an email praises this nameless pastor a Leader, it's awfully sheeplike to just FW: it on and leave the same copy about wanting to give the pastor a hug that's on every version of this email.

BTW, he hasn't stopped sending them to me, but I now have a filter on my email.

Diogines
Dec 22, 2007

Beaky the Tortoise says, click here to join our choose Your Own Adventure Game!

Paradise Lost: Clash of the Heavens!

Wow, that’s just some Old Style racism right here. I think that stamp is pretty neat. Why did you bother even responding to this idiot? It is clear that Harvey is racist and based on his own emails, a moron.

Capn_Marrrrk
Apr 12, 2007
Yarrrr!

Diogines posted:

Wow, that’s just some Old Style racism right here. I think that stamp is pretty neat. Why did you bother even responding to this idiot? It is clear that Harvey is racist and based on his own emails, a moron.

He just pushed my button. It's odd. There are many different types of intelligence. Harvey designed and built his own house, so he's not stupid. He can fix nearly anything (provided you didn't want a neat or elegant solution) However he's losing a crap ton of money trying to find a system to beat the Stockmarket while listening to Fox all day.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Vilerat posted:

•If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
•If a liberal is homosexual, he loudly demands legislated respect.

HOW DARE THEY!

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

RagnarokAngel posted:

HOW DARE THEY!

Hey man it's not like the Blacks or Hispanics ever wanted to be regarded as oh jesus I can't do it

The Macaroni
Dec 20, 2002
...it does nothing.

Diogines posted:

Wow, that’s just some Old Style racism right here. I think that stamp is pretty neat. Why did you bother even responding to this idiot? It is clear that Harvey is racist and based on his own emails, a moron.
I'm amazed that a stamp which has been around since before Obama was a Senator is now being linked to him. What kind of idiot thinks stamps cost $0.42 at any point during this administration? :confused:

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

RagnarokAngel posted:

HOW DARE THEY!

I freaking love that one. I about died laughing.

Yes, they quietly lead their life because if they were open about it they'd be completely ostracized from friends and family. Or have anonymous gay sex that everyone and their mothers knows about but hey, they're totally not gay!

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

RagnarokAngel posted:

HOW DARE THEY!

My thoughts exactly. I read that one and all I could think was "drat straight".

Turnquiet
Oct 24, 2002

My friend is an eloquent speaker.

Capn_Marrrrk posted:

Of course you think my father in law would know better than to keep sending me these FW: but 2 days later I got another one:

:words:

The funny thing about all this was that the preceding chapters dealt with Joseph instituting a government rationing program for grain harvested during the seven years of plenty so the nation of Egypt could survive the seven years of famine. 14 years of -~SOCIALISM~-!

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
My retort to a conservatives vs liberals email..

wormil posted:

If a conservative doesn't have an enemy they manufacture one.
If a liberal doesn't have an enemy they have a party.

If a conservative is criticized they pass an act that sounds patriotic and make drat sure you are afraid to criticize them again.
If a liberal is criticized they embrace new ideas.

If a conservative isn't cheating someone they are a RINO.
If a liberal isn't cheating someone they have a party.

If a conservative doesn't have a good year in the stock market they deregulate the banking system and collapse the economy.
If a liberal doesn't have a good year in the stock market they tighten the belt.

If a conservative doesn't have any drugs they make them illegal.
If a liberal doesn't have any drugs they have a party.

If a conservative doesn't have money they spend it anyway and borrow from China.
If a liberal doesn't have money they balance the budget.

If a conservative doesn't have a reason to torture someone they do it anyway.
If a liberal ... wait, what???

If a conservative doesn't like abortion they just pretend it doesn't exist while they are in power.
If a liberal doesn't like abortion they still say so but endorse a woman's right to choose.

If a conservative doesn't have Fox News they are unsure what to think.
A liberal is too busy partying to watch nonsense like Fox News.

The point was to poke fun.

Grifter
Jul 24, 2003

I do this technique called a suplex. You probably haven't heard of it, it's pretty obscure.

quote:

•If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
•Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.
A lot of dumb things in this thread, but this one jumped right out at me. The Parent's Television Council is responsible for some absurd number of FCC television content complaints, something like 97% of all complaints come from them and, big surprise, they're a conservative group.

Radd McCool
Dec 3, 2005

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Ahhh! Ahhh! Ahhhhh!

SOMETHING IN MY INBOX posted:

Subject: SS - Evolved

(The Truth about Social Security and what happened to the money the people put into the fund.)

Aren't you Democrats proud?  ;

Franklin Delano. Roosevelt 32 nd . President , Democrat Terms of Office March 4, 1933 , to April 12, 1945 GO TO HERE ! Our Social Security Franklin Delano. Roosevelt (Terms of Office March 4, 1933, to April 12, 1945), a Democrat , introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program.
He Promised: -
1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary,
2.) That the participants would only=2 0have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,
3.) That the money the participants elected to put Into the Program would be deductible from Their income for tax purposes each year,
4.) That the money the participants put into the Independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would Only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and
5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'Put Away' -- you may be interested in the following:

----------THEN--------------------------------
Dwight David Eisenhower 34 th . President , Republican , Term Of Office: January 20, 1953 to January 20, 1961 Insert by Vincent Peter Render , 1958 is the first year that Congress, not President Eisenhower, voted to remove funds from Social Security and put it into the General Fund for Congress to spend.

If I recall correctly , it was a democratically controlled Congress.

Congress logic at that time was that there was so much money in Social Security Fund that it would never run out / be used up for the purpose it was intended/set aside for.

------------- WORSE STILL ----------------------------------------------

Lyndon Baines Johnson 36 th .. President , Democrat Term Of Office: November 22, 1963 to January 20, 1969

Question: Which Political Party took Social Security from the Independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the General Fund so that Congress could spend it ?

Answer: It was Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat, Term of Office: November 22,1963 to January 20, 19 69) and the democrat controlled House and Senate.

Question: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax Deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding ?

Answer: The Democratic Party

William Jefferson Clinton (Bill Clinton) 42 nd . President Democrat Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001 Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. ( Al Gore ) 45 th . Vice President Democrat Term of Offic e: January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001

Question: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

Answer: The Democratic Party , with Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. ( Al Gore ) [Vice President Term of Office: January 10, 1993 to January 20, 2001 ] casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US .

------------------THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK !!-------------------------------

James Earl Carter, Jr ( Jimmy Carter ) 39 th President , Democrat Term of Office: January 20, 1977 to January 20, 1981

Question: Which Political Party decided to start giving Annuity payments to immigrants? - AND MY FAVORITE:

ANSWER: That' s right! JAMES EARL CARTER, JR. ( Jimmy CARTER ) ( DEMOCRAT , TERM OF OFFICE: JANUARY 20, 1977 TO JANUARY 20, 1981 AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY . IMMIGRANTS MOVED INTO THIS COUNTRY, AND AT AGE 65, BEGAN TO RECEIVE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS: THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY GAVE THESE PAYMENTS TO THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY NEVER PAI D A DIME INTO IT!

"drat", have you ever seen a Jack-rear end eating briers!

Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away! The worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! 0A

If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of Awareness will be planted and maybe changes WILL evolve ! Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn't so. But it's worth a try.

How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.

0A
AND CONGRESS GIVES THEMSELVES 100% RETIREMENT FOR ONLY SERVING ONE TERM!!!
----------------------------------------------

Thomas Jefferson 3rd President, Democrat Term of Office: January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have". ~Thomas Jefferson
AHHHHHHHHH

quote:

Question: Which Political Party took Social Security from the Independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the General Fund so that Congress could spend it ?
This e-mail is horrible, but this excerpt I know off hand is both wrong and popular. The closest it comes to being correct is that SS money is used to buy bonds, the proceeds from which go into general spending.

Someone should warn the Chinese that all that money they're investing in the US economy is just being spent by congress. I'll get a Republican, hang on China!

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ManoliIsFat
Oct 4, 2002

Grifter posted:

A lot of dumb things in this thread, but this one jumped right out at me. The Parent's Television Council is responsible for some absurd number of FCC television content complaints, something like 97% of all complaints come from them and, big surprise, they're a conservative group.
Christian groups are the ones filing all the FCC complaints against college radio and public radio stations all the time, too. They got crews of people to listen to your station 24 hours a day so they can file some complaints and hopefully get the station fined which will assuredly shut it down or at least make renewing the license a huge task. Then, when the independent station gets shut down, the Christians buy the bandwidth and pop up another Christian talk/music station. A group of people totally pumped about destroying independent media.

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