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The entire thing (Mr. America) was a joke and was NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER meant to be taken seriously. From the very first second of the gimmick every single person in the world was in on the joke and everyone was expected to go along with it for just the sheer fun of it all. I loved the entire storyline and was sad that it just got cut off for reasons I was never entirely sure of (although I presume it incorporates Vince and Hogan having another falling out).
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apsouthern posted:Promo on Vince : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFLWZEHEoYc I hadn't seen the lie detector one before. It's definitely a rip off of The Simpsons version. It's a pity they didn't have Vince say "Get this off me, I don't deserve this!", *BUZZ*
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Jerusalem posted:The entire thing (Mr. America) was a joke and was NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER meant to be taken seriously. From the very first second of the gimmick every single person in the world was in on the joke and everyone was expected to go along with it for just the sheer fun of it all. I liked it too - it beat Hulk's usual shtick.
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Jerusalem posted:I loved the entire storyline and was sad that it just got cut off for reasons I was never entirely sure of (although I presume it incorporates Vince and Hogan having another falling out). Yup, that's pretty much exactly the reason. Hogan wanted too much money or something, Vince refused it, so they just wrote him off altogether.
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Oct 4, 2009 00:29
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Do Mexican wrestling companies often steal things from other companies? I'm watching AAA on Galavision and they did some backstage bit and the DX theme is clearly playing in the background. I wouldn't think that WWE would give them permission to use that, would they?
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How many of yesterday and todays' top singles superstars were not members of a successful tag team/stable? Now, I'm not counting people who've been in a tag team match, here or there, or even people who won the tag team belts on a fluke. I'm talking about people in legitimate teams, like D-X or the Hardyz. So far the only two that me and my friends were able to come up with were Rey (teaming with Batista for a while doesn't count, and since none of us could recall how long he was co-champ with Eddie, we decided it was OK... though if it was longer than 4 months I guess I'll have to admit he doesn't count either) and Cena (he was a champ with HBK, but again, that was more to promote them as reluctant allies than as an actual team). None of us knew enough about pre-Attitude Era stuff to say for certain. Hell, I'll make this a two parter, to make coming up with names a bit easier, who was a successful singles champ BEFORE becoming a tag team/stable member? I think Undertaker is OK here, ignoring his stint in WCW under a different name and gimmick because that doesn't count, and his affiliations with Paul Bearer (manager =/= stable/tag team). I don't know enough about ROH to make a ruling yet on Punk, but I know he was in a stable with Joe and Cabana. If they were a 4 Horsemen-ish stable, then Punk's out of the running, if they were just some guys who hung out, then he's still OK I guess. How over were the Hollywood Blondes? Was he Steve Austin then, or still the Ringmaster?
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A Dapper Man posted:Do Mexican wrestling companies often steal things from other companies? I'm watching AAA on Galavision and they did some backstage bit and the DX theme is clearly playing in the background. I wouldn't think that WWE would give them permission to use that, would they? copyright laws in mexico aren't exactly something that can be strongly enforced. Over-Sold posted:How many of yesterday and todays' top singles superstars were not members of a successful tag team/stable? Now, I'm not counting people who've been in a tag team match, here or there, or even people who won the tag team belts on a fluke. I'm talking about people in legitimate teams, like D-X or the Hardyz. quote:How over were the Hollywood Blondes? Was he Steve Austin then, or still the Ringmaster? STING 64 fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Oct 4, 2009 |
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Oct 4, 2009 00:35
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Rey was in Eddie Guerro's mexican WCW stable, and The Filthy Animals, although I'm not sure either of those could be considered successful. The only guy I can really think of is Rob Van Dam.. Does ECW/WCW count as a stable?
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Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:Didn't WCW also throw wads of cash at the Maestro because he owned the rights to the "Gorgeous George" name, and Macho Man's pornstar girlfriend wanted to use the name "Gorgeous George?" WCW bought the name and the original idea was to redo the gimmick with Lanny Poffo. Like many things in WCW, it was half-baked and they never used the name and paid Poffo to sit at home. Then, years later, they thought it would be funny to name a woman George. WeaselWeaz fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Oct 4, 2009 |
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grody but still def posted:They were fairly over but not to a main event level. He was still billed as Steve Austin, Ringmaster was just a WWF gimmick. Hmm... was he a redneck rear end in a top hat? Tyma posted:Rey was in Eddie Guerro's mexican WCW stable, and The Filthy Animals, although I'm not sure either of those could be considered successful. Oooh, nice. Yeah, not gonna count The Alliance or WCW/ECW as a stable, because then technically the opposition of WWE was also a stable and thusly everyone around at that time was in a stable by default. So, yeah, Cena, Rey, 'Taker, maybe Austin, and RVD so far.
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The Maestro sure has one hell of a website: http://www.thestro.com/
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Cordialatron posted:The Maestro sure has one hell of a website: Is there a wrestler who's website isn't terrible (that doesn't work for WWE I mean)?
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Over-Sold posted:Hmm... was he a redneck rear end in a top hat?
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grody but still def posted:actually he was a pretty boy type character. "Stunning" Steve Austin, if I remember right. He didn't really start the bad rear end part of his character until he went to ECW as "Superstar" Steve Austin. Also, he looks really strange with long, blonde hair.
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A Dapper Man posted:"Stunning" Steve Austin, if I remember right. He didn't really start the bad rear end part of his character until he went to ECW as "Superstar" Steve Austin. Also, he looks really strange with long, blonde hair. He was Stunning Steve for a long time in WCW as part of the 'Hollywood Blondes' He was a better worker then.
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FishBulb posted:He was Stunning Steve for a long time in WCW as part of the 'Hollywood Blondes' He also had two knees and a movable neck then.
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A Dapper Man posted:He also had two knees and a movable neck then. Excuses, excuses.
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FishBulb posted:Is there a wrestler who's website isn't terrible (that doesn't work for WWE I mean)? Yes. Kamala.
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projecthalaxy posted:Yes. Kamala. Bzzt no.
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projecthalaxy posted:Yes. Kamala. Does his site have tips on bowling?
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Writer Cath posted:Does his site have tips on bowling? No, but it does have Kamala singing 
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grody but still def posted:actually he was a pretty boy type character. Austin can join the list.
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LastAngryMuppet posted:I was watching the Best of Smackdown DVD and after watching the Vince promo I was wondering: did someone use the quote "Life sucks, and then you diiiiiie" before their entrance music? It sounds so familiar but I can't place it. Also, I may be making it up. I don't know of anyone using that clip in entrance music, but (and this is kind of a stretch) the band Skinless uses it at the beginning of their song "The Optimist" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6jx8qSu2bA ). I'm sure other bands have sampled it here and there. Thanks for mentioning it by the way...I'd never seen that promo and didnt know where that sample came from until now.
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Austin was also in a little thing called the Dangerous Alliance which I think you'd have to call a succesful stable. It also gave us this match http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x124ep_rudeaustin-vs-bagwellzenk_sport
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A Dapper Man posted:Also, he looks really strange with long, blonde hair. 
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Taste the Rainbugh posted:Twins?  
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Taste the Rainbugh posted:So, what kind of angle would his left leg have to be at to look that strange at the knee? It looks like he's part satyr.
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The Artist-Stro match made me realize that Sharmell was The Artist's valet.
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A Dapper Man posted:So, what kind of angle would his left leg have to be at to look that strange at the knee? It looks like he's part satyr. Hes clearly emulating a Middle Kingdom Egyptian statue DUHHHHHHH
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Taste the Rainbugh posted:Wait, are you absolutely sure this isn't Jack Swagger?
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After watching the Mr. America stuff, it reminded me that the summer of 2003 is when I stopped watching wrestling as intently as I did. So, my question is, whatever became of Zack Gowan. I know he was released in early 2004, but I don't remember him doing much after feuding with Vince. Wikipedia tells me he had a feud with Matt Hardy, but I don't remember this. Also, after Austin turned heel at WMX-7, which was a few months before the Invasion started. Then, when it did start, Austin turned face again. But, by the end, he was in the Alliance for some reason. Can someone fill me in on the details for this? And, what's the probability of the WWE releasing episodes of Raw on DVD? I know it would be expensive, but I would buy it.
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Twin Cinema posted:Also, after Austin turned heel at WMX-7, which was a few months before the Invasion started. Then, when it did start, Austin turned face again. But, by the end, he was in the Alliance for some reason. Can someone fill me in on the details for this? So, Austin was a heel after WM X7. He ended up turning into a goofy heel who would hang around with Vince and Kurt Angle backstage and sing songs. Since the WWF was being invaded by Alliance wrestlers, Vince wanted the old Stone Cold back who would stunner anyone who looked at him the wrong way. Stone Cold was upset by this and left, only to return and kick the Alliance's asses and set himself up as the leader of the WWF faction going into InVasion. At InVasion, Austin turned on WWF and helped the Alliance win by dropping Booker T on top of Kurt Angle. I can't remember the exact reason he gave for the swerve but he immediately became the shining light of the Alliance and the whole faction revolved around him. There was a Steve Austin thank you night and whatnot. Over time he got increasingly paranoid and as well as fending off WWF wrestlers like Angle, he would attack guys like RVD and Tazz. When the Alliance storyline ended, Vince turned heel and alligned with Kurt Angle while Steve Austin kind of turned face and alligned with a newly debuting Ric Flair.
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There wasn't really a "face turn" for Austin per se. After the Alliance lost at Survivor Series he came out and was just a face without really doing anything to turn. I think he hit Kurt Angle with a Stunner because Vince was just going to give Angle the world title. Also, Steve Austin in the Alliance brought this to the world: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_U6mtlyLkk
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reality_groove posted:I can't remember the exact reason he gave for the swerve but he immediately became the shining light of the Alliance and the whole faction revolved around him.
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So who do you guys think hAs the best interference music? For me it is a tie between Austin and Big Show. Maybe it is because they have such striking, distictive beginnings, but those two have always been the best for me at: Wrestler:  *glass breaks* or WWWEEEEEEELLLLLL Wrestler: aaaaaaaaaahhhhh!
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projecthalaxy posted:So who do you guys think hAs the best interference music? For me it is a tie between Austin and Big Show. Maybe it is because they have such striking, distictive beginnings, but those two have always been the best for me at: *GONG*
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projecthalaxy posted:So who do you guys think hAs the best interference music? For me it is a tie between Austin and Big Show. Maybe it is because they have such striking, distictive beginnings, but those two have always been the best for me at: kane's fire.
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Captain Misc. posted:*GONG* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D_2__ULQak
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projecthalaxy posted:So who do you guys think hAs the best interference music? For me it is a tie between Austin and Big Show. Maybe it is because they have such striking, distictive beginnings, but those two have always been the best for me at: Any theme that starts with some sort of urgency is great and works great to let you know some poo poo is going down. I think the point of a good opening theme is something at the beginning to get a big pop when the wrestler comes out, whether at the beginning of a match or in the middle of someone's promo. In addition to everything else that was named, I think that "You think you know me" and "...KENNEDY!" work great for that kind of stuff.
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CM Junk posted:Any theme that starts with some sort of urgency is great and works great to let you know some poo poo is going down. I think the point of a good opening theme is something at the beginning to get a big pop when the wrestler comes out, whether at the beginning of a match or in the middle of someone's promo. This is the exact reason I've always loved Tazz and the NAO 's theme songs.
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