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the walkin dude posted:I'm now accustomed to the heavy brake dive on my Ninja and how long it takes to brake (just ok). How is the SV in comparison, when braking hard? And with a passenger? With a passenger, there's a huge dive on my Ninja, and I don't like it when they dig into my back. I know that SV's have two front brake discs, and I'm wondering about the difference. Okay...brake dive could be several things, but since you're just starting out I'm guessing it's a combination of lack of practice stopping and a front suspension that's overly soft. The other factor could be that you're riding too hot for your level of experience and having to break too hard as a result. If you're significantly heavier than the mythical average Japanese guy for whom your suspension was designed you could be reaching the end of the useful point of your suspension travel while the bike is still trying to transfer weight forward. If that's the case (and it was for me) you'll have similar problems on the SV. You can readily address them on either bike by replacing the front fork springs with something that has a stiffer spring rate. I upped the springs on my front forks to 1.0kg/mm and have seen the braking performance improve dramatically. The other thing I'd suggest is trying a 2-fingered brake pull if you've been gripping the lever with your whole hand. I found early on that a 2-fingered pull was much smoother for me.
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Yeah, I've been practicing stopping with the rear brake, with engine braking, and with 2-fingered braking and getting better results but I've been wondering how the SV compared. My Ninja's a '98 model, so I'm not sure how old the front forks are (they have inspection stickers on 'em, and the bike was recently inspected, but I'm not sure how that works with relation to them). I'm 6'4'' and 190 pounds so, yeah. Still not the rider Kawasaki was aiming for.
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Decent pads will do a lot to help the braking on a stock SV, but anyone who weighs over 130 will easily overwhelm the front suspension even with proper braking technique. Besides, using a lot of fork travel is pretty standard under heavy braking, but you should still have roughly 1/3 to 1/4th of your overall travel to take up bumps. Bikes that are set more softly for comfortable street riding are going to use a lot more suspension travel under heavy braking than a bike set up for the track. Springs are all that most riders need to really transform the SV's front end, although Ricor Intimators or RaceTech gold valves can help too. I don't have a spare seat floating around, sorry. And I left my camera in SB so I don't have the picture of the undertail...sorry! I'll up it when I get back.
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A few days ago I picked up an '06 with 6300 miles. Fluids all flushed and new tires put on it. Awesome machine. Looking for only one mod right now, a fender eliminator kit...
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Has anyone else had a problem with the passenger side mirror vibrating more than the drivers side? My 07's right side mirror seems to vibrate just enough to make it a PITA to view cars at a certain distance behind me. Left side is just fine. Is it just the difference between left hand having full contact with the handle, while the right side is loose since it sits on the throttle sleeve? Both of the stock rubber/metal bar-end weights are on the bike.
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Sep 21, 2009 19:16
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So... Is the passenger side mirror on the back of the bike?
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Depending on who you are, you may or may not care, but apparently the SV650 is about to get a set of brand new Ricor shocks that're currently under development... The KLR650 just got em and the SV650 is next: quote:Originally Posted by Hal and a guy from Ricor just posted this: quote:The 3rd Gen Ricor IAS just had it's race debut this weekend at Infineon Raceway on a production class SV650. The race bike has been running the Intiminators for the entire season, hence the #1 points lead. During practice, the team performed a 'Penskectomy' and the Ricor IAS was installed. The SV650 won first place by over 23 seconds. IMO, it's like bringing a gun to a knife fight. The rider commented the bike didn't jump out over the bumps like with the Penske. Unfortunately, I have a Triumph, which could end up being pretty far down their to-do list, but you guys might be happy about it... 
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phishnut posted:Depending on who you are, you may or may not care, but apparently the SV650 is about to get a set of brand new Ricor shocks that're currently under development... It's worth noting that the SV650 mentioned is being ridden by Dave Raff, who was the 2008 650P winner. I'm sure their stuff is good, but he's got a history of running really, really drat well, and is a fantastic rider. I'm also curious as to how much their shocks are going to cost... Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked for any development for the SV, but it's not like the Intiminators were the main factor that got him on the front line like they imply. I've talked to him about them in person and while he was very complimentary of them, I didn't get the impression that they were any better than the AK20s that the production front runners run. Although the fact that they exist on the same level as a set of high quality cartridge internals is pretty impressive, and for the price, they can't be beat, but it's not like the Intiminators took him from back marker to race winner, he was winning races and championships long before he ever got hooked up with Ricor. Although it's smart of them to choose someone who's already winning to run their stuff 
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Sep 22, 2009 17:56
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 double post.   Is that the undertail you need?
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Mine has that...had something underneath it which is what fell off. I made a trip to home depot and made something to hold the plate, still need to make something to cover the hole under the seat but thats minor. Thanks though
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NitroSpazzz posted:Mine has that...had something underneath it which is what fell off. I made a trip to home depot and made something to hold the plate, still need to make something to cover the hole under the seat but thats minor. Thanks though No problem, sorry it took me so long to post pics 
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Holy loving hell. Dude takes his sv650 out for 2 supermoto races..... http://www.supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?t=88535
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Z3n posted:It's worth noting that the SV650 mentioned is being ridden by Dave Raff, who was the 2008 650P winner. I'm sure their stuff is good, but he's got a history of running really, really drat well, and is a fantastic rider. I'm also curious as to how much their shocks are going to cost... Yeah, I realize that there's a lot of marketing bluster going around, but they really sound like great shocks... The guys at Ricor are saying that the Intiminators are limited since they're just a bandaid for old fork tech, but since these new shocks are a self-contained unit, they're free to use all of their advancements from their Baja shocks, etc... So far, the KLR guys are really digging them: some guy posted:Today I took it for a run down some bitumen roads, dirt roads and tracks that I ride quite a bit so I know them well. We had a howling wind today and I thought I just can’t get into the groove, I was missing braking markers, running a bit wide and not quite with it, then I took notice of my speed and I think I was averaging an extra 10-20kmh approaching each corner, so that was the reason. It just didn’t feel like I was going faster, that is how much smoother it is. So re-adjust brain to compensate.
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Well for better or worse I took the SV down to the Gap this afternoon. Drove the truck down and helped do an end of the season cleanup from 7-10:30 or so. Did a few runs before traffic started to get bad and headed home. Made some lunch, looked at maps and tried to decide where I wanted to ride today. Was actually looking for a different road but after missing a turn and being generally lost I saw a sign for 129 and decided to go for it. Got there around 5 and only saw one other bike headed towards but tons were driving away...good sign. I took it very easy and just enjoyed the road, put it in second gear and just concentrated on my line and having fun. Thanks to the engine braking I could have done the whole run without touching the brakes, rarely needed to use them. I was able to get more comfortable leaning the bike and worked on looking through the corner where possible. One thing I did find that I need to work on is getting off the bike, I didn't think the gap was an ideal spot to start playing with that but I did for a few of the hairpins I did slide off to the side and while I felt good I wasn't able to get back on smoothly. I've been doing it on the way to/from work on one of the twisty roads that I am on each day. I did realize a few things...First that bike is very very capable and it is going to be a long time before I am able to get everything out of it. Secondly I have a lot to learn, from body position to easing on/off the brake. Third if you want to ride the road do it before 11am or after 5pm, a lot less traffic and I didn't get stuck behind anyone. Overall it was a blast and I'm really glad I went, now I'm trying to decide if I want to do the group ride tomorrow down there. I'm a bit sore and my body is not used to these 3-4 hour rides. Also didn't cross the center-line once...if I can do it anyone can. NitroSpazzz fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Oct 4, 2009 |
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I found a really nice 2005 SV650 that has a lot of good components on it, but it is of course a fairingless bike, and I want a fairing. The guy also replaced the stock headlight assembly with a twin headlight setup, and perhaps the mount for that is custom as well. How much pain and suffering and dollars will it take to slap on a reasonable windscreen (I don't even care about having a lower fairing) akin to the SV650S? I might even not need a headlight, since my main goal is to have some wind protection during track days where you don't need a headlight. Could someone suggest a full solution for this, brackets and all? And also, how difficult is it to install clip-ons? It has a regular handlebar setup right now. French Canadian fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Oct 5, 2009 |
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Installing clip-ons seems pretty painless provided you're okay with a couple holes in the top triple. Only thing you need to worry about is the cables and hoses being too long, but it's not really a big deal. The other alternative is swapping in clubman bars which is considerably cheaper and gives a very similar riding position.
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French Canadian posted:I found a really nice 2005 SV650 that has a lot of good components on it, but it is of course a fairingless bike, and I want a fairing. The guy also replaced the stock headlight assembly with a twin headlight setup, and perhaps the mount for that is custom as well. What sort of fairing do you want? You could swap on a SV650S fairing stay, headlight, etc. but you may have to do some form of trickery with mounting brackets/gauges. If you're just looking to run a small additional fairing, you could slap on a Buell Flyscreen.
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Z3n posted:What sort of fairing do you want? You could swap on a SV650S fairing stay, headlight, etc. but you may have to do some form of trickery with mounting brackets/gauges. I'd love to at least have something like the SV650S, with a regular sized windscreen and everything. But again, I can probably do without the headlight since I mainly want this for track use. That fly screen looks pretty neat, though. What would be involved in installing an SV650S fairing stay? Are those pretty expensive, given that they are OEM? I also recall a company that made inexpensive aftermarket fairing brackets for sportbikes. Perhaps it was mentioned on this forum.
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French Canadian posted:I'd love to at least have something like the SV650S, with a regular sized windscreen and everything. But again, I can probably do without the headlight since I mainly want this for track use. That fly screen looks pretty neat, though. Delkevic makes replacement fairing stays, but none for the SV. I'd try hunting around on an SV specific site like SVrider. They'll probably have info on swaps from SVS to Naked and vice versa and what needs to be done. If it's for track only use, I'd just pick up a cheap aluminum fairing stay from a place like Endurance Engineering, and put some race fairings on it.
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Z3n posted:Delkevic makes replacement fairing stays, but none for the SV. I just email EE about SV650 race fairing brackets, and if their solution is simple enough I might go that route, then. I'm not opposed to making my own brackets, either, I suppose.
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Is there anything actually wrong with the Gladius, other than the dumb name and the subjective looks? Per z3n's advice I'm going to pick up a used racing SV for track when I get down to CA, but would like something for commuting here. The price new is fine for me, and the riding position looks a lot better for commuting and weekend trips, as well as being a better transition from underpowered dualsports and ancient dirt bikes to a real street bike.
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SeamusMcPhisticuffs posted:Is there anything actually wrong with the Gladius, other than the dumb name and the subjective looks? No, nothing wrong with it. It's still essentially an SV. I'm curious to ride one, but I have a feeling it'll be just like the SV650N, which is one of my favorite bikes.
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I test rode one last month and it's pretty much entirely the same as the naked SV. The engine feels smoother although I can't put my finger on exactly what's different compared to the SV but the front suspension is just as poo poo. On sv650.org there's someone with a Gladius who has been fairly busy modifying it cosmetically. He's cut off most of the plastics, fitted a new exhaust and some other stuff, which makes it look pretty drat good too.
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SeamusMcPhisticuffs posted:Is there anything actually wrong with the Gladius, other than the dumb name and the subjective looks? When are you getting down to CA? I'm pretty sure I'm gonna wind up selling my SV, and it's fairly well set up for the track, especially if you weigh in the neighborhood of 200 lbs. Email me at thermald (at) gmail if you're interested.
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Zenaida posted:When are you getting down to CA? I'm pretty sure I'm gonna wind up selling my SV, and it's fairly well set up for the track, especially if you weigh in the neighborhood of 200 lbs. Email me at thermald (at) gmail if you're interested. Within the next year or so, I appreciate it, but don't go holding on to it for me.
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SeamusMcPhisticuffs posted:Within the next year or so, I appreciate it, but don't go holding on to it for me. I'm not in a big hurry to sell it, and I'd prefer to sell it to someone who can properly appreciate (with $) the suspension work I've put into it.
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I managed to track down a guy who did a naked to race faired SV conversion, and it seems pretty simple. I only need the Vortex fairing stay, and then a few OEM brackets and I should be able to mount a regular set of race fairings. Now should I go for Catalyst or Armour Bodies?
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I just finished converting my S to an N and I sold all the bracketry and plastics on SVRider or eBay. It's a pretty popular swap lately, so the leftover parts are readily available. I still have my first-gen gauge pod to get rid of if you're looking for one.
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Aww son of a bitch. Cleaning the chain I found a stiff spot. Spinning the wheel around, when that spot hits the front sprocket the resistance increases, then as the spot goes past it spins like normal. What chain/sprocket combo have you guys had good luck with on the SV? I would prefer longevity over performance/weight.
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Z3n posted:No, nothing wrong with it. It's still essentially an SV. I'm curious to ride one, but I have a feeling it'll be just like the SV650N, which is one of my favorite bikes. One interesting difference that you'd notice is the secondary throttle butterfly. It's ECU controlled, and the computer takes a lot of the edge off the engine braking, which makes blip-shifting a lot easier. It also makes for odd behavior at low speed and barely-open throttle. Edit: Z3n posted:Springs are all that most riders need to really transform the SV's front end, although Ricor Intimators or RaceTech gold valves can help too. Mr. Eric Praline fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Oct 6, 2009 |
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It's starting to cool down here in Texas, time to get back on my bike
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Captain Apollo posted:It's starting to cool down here in Texas, time to get back on my bike Back from the dead! Good to see you alive and kicking
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Yessir! Just got my pilot's license and now I'm able to get back on the bike for any length of time 
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Captain Apollo posted:Yessir! Just got my pilot's license and now I'm able to get back on the bike for any length of time So how much is it going to cost us to load the bikes in the back and fly out to some random Caribbean island and ride around for a week?
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On my sv 1000 I replaced both the handlebars, but now I can't get the triple clamp (not the main one underneath, the top cover one) to get on all the way. It may be because the forks are slightly bent, but I was told by someone that the fasteners may have been jolted in the high speed crash and that if I just loosen all the bolts and screws, then re-tighten them back up everything will re-align. Is this true, has anyone ever heard or done this?
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blugu64 posted:So how much is it going to cost us to load the bikes in the back and fly out to some random Caribbean island and ride around for a week? We're going to need a bigger plane hahaha
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Jack the Smack posted:On my sv 1000 I replaced both the handlebars, but now I can't get the triple clamp (not the main one underneath, the top cover one) to get on all the way. It may be because the forks are slightly bent, but I was told by someone that the fasteners may have been jolted in the high speed crash and that if I just loosen all the bolts and screws, then re-tighten them back up everything will re-align. Is this true, has anyone ever heard or done this? It's absolutely possible. Loosen everything up, pump the front forks as best as you can, and go from there. Chances are if it doesn't line up nicely, though, the lower triple is tweaked. Loosen the bottom axle and pinch bolts and pump the forks through their travel and then loosen the triples (with the bike supported so it doesn't slide down the fork tubes) and if things will straighten out, they'll straighten out then. Once everything's been loosened up and given a chance to return to it's natural position, give it another shot.
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Captain Apollo posted:We're going to need a bigger plane hahaha I've got no masculinity issues with the honda express 
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Thanks, and I got one more question: How do I properly align the handlebars? Any tools or techniques that can be recommended? I of course need to have both sides the exact same height and angle. And, is there a recommended angle and height? I want the most lean forward, in control, racing body position (I've been doing it so long I feel more comfortable than sitting up).
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