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jamal posted:he purposely braked late and rammed him to gently caress up the porsche's corner exit. that's probably the most dick thing that happened the whole race. The porsche parked it in the corner and the Vette had no where to go (Just as he did at 34 seconds into the video) Also are you seriously saying a small bump in the corner is more of a dick move then fully spinning a guy out at 140 mph on purpose?
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Seems to me they were both being dicks, and they both got penalized for it.
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Oct 20, 2009 04:44
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Its probably the motorsports embodiment of "its all fun and games until someone loses an eye"
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Oct 20, 2009 04:58
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The 'vett couldn't get past with out doing an illegal maneuver. Frustrated with his inability to pass, he purposely rammed the Porsche as he exited the last corner, of the last lap. For this, he was sent to the wall. Maybe it's because I play too much Forza but I hate it when some pubbie purposely crashes into you because they can't win.
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Oct 20, 2009 06:04
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By my account the Porsche had no business winning, theres defensive driving but that was on a whole other level. If you get a wheel beside another car its pretty crass to come flying over and his car was visibly weaker after he finally got passed, which was an awesome move if a little dangerous. However, I'm not conviced he slowed too much in the last corner and there is noway I would want to lose after being shunted out of the way on the very last corner, weaker car be damned. loving awesome racing though.
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Blocko posted:This is what happens when you race someone and drive balls out on a wet track This totally loving owns, the Rex driver was clinical even after being spun and made a bloody good go of it. Also I want my Monaro to sound like that Vett, holee poo poo.
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Oct 20, 2009 06:41
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destructo posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brNtbaMadX4&feature=player_embedded Wow, that was like watching BTCC all over again. I gotta get me some more ALMS
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Oct 20, 2009 08:54
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gently caress BURGMEISTER. There's protecting your line and then there's driving a much slower car all over the loving track so someone can NEVER pass you. If anyone agrees with the Porsche victory, then I'm sure they won't have an issues when the guy sitting on pole position just adds 30 feet of bodywork to either side of the car and drives 5mph the whole race. I can't remember the last time I saw such bullshit on a track. I suppose the slower car can always win if you never take your eyes off the rearview.
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Oct 20, 2009 14:01
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kill me now posted:The porsche parked it in the corner and the Vette had no where to go (Just as he did at 34 seconds into the video) That's your viewpoint. The Porsche team says he was trying to spin the Porsche at that last turn. Based on his driving throughout the last lap (cutting off other drivers, etc.) I am inclined to believe them. There are a lot of different viewpoints on what happened and who was right and who was wrong.
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Oct 20, 2009 14:21
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-Spiffy- posted:This totally loving owns, the Rex driver was clinical even after being spun and made a bloody good go of it. If the camera is in the Rex, the rex driver is a loving idiot for not looking for where he was going when getting back on the course and slamming into the side of that Vette.
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ozziegt posted:If the camera is in the Rex, the rex driver is a loving idiot for not looking for where he was going when getting back on the course and slamming into the side of that Vette. Yeah that's what I was seeing, a bunch of people not being careful reentering the track.
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-Spiffy- posted:By my account the Porsche had no business winning, theres defensive driving but that was on a whole other level. Being blocked because the slower car in front of you wont let you past is no excuse to cut corners, going flat out full speed in the pit lane. My god what if someone was exiting. Trying to ram someone off the track on the last corner of the last lap out of spite is vastly different from merely trading paint during aggressive overtaking maneuvers. It's good that the 'vette was punished for his actions, but it's equally good that the Porsche was punished for it's retaliation, but he still deserved that hard won 1st place.
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The corvette driver was being extremely dangerous by loving passing on the pit-out. Yes the Porsche was slower but that's racing, if you can't get around them and they aren't penalized for blocking then you were not good enough. The final turn was the vette making a last ditch effort to get the Porsche loose and scrub his exit speed. The Porsche defended his line by pinching the vette driver off and neither gave up the line. When no one lifts then it will always become a clusterfuck. Other than that it was good racing all around.
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Oct 20, 2009 19:35
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Blah blah blah Porsche Vette blah blah. I think Frozenphil will like this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsvknc4HzGc
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^^^ That was some funny poo poo, I laughed so hard, my eyes squirted! I dont know the rules and stuff related to racing, so if someone could explain what rule violations were committed, and by whom/where, that would probably help clear things up for the rest of us. From my perspective, I would say the bumping the rear (even in a corner) stuff as a normal part of racing, and generally tolerated. I would imagine that racing in pit row a clear violation, and slamming another car into the wall a clear violation. Were I the dude in charge, I would say that intentionally slamming another car into the wall should get you disqualified, that is not racing, that is more like roller derby. (Sidenote: I went to see some roller derby a few months ago, and it did kick rear end, if you get a chance, check it out.) hippynerd fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Oct 20, 2009 |
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Oct 20, 2009 20:27
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T-Square posted:Blah blah blah Porsche Vette blah blah. Glorious. Everyone here could learn a lot from this fellow.
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T-Square posted:Blah blah blah Porsche Vette blah blah. Oh my god that was fantastic.
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T-Square posted:Blah blah blah Porsche Vette blah blah. Hahhah loving hell that is awesome.
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Awesome. To be honest, though, the back straight at VIR seems like it gives you enough time to check your voicemail messages even when driving a stick.
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City bus loses brakes going downhill. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO2rW1alVv8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVOOdhf_N0U
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Toyota's LFA supercar montage. No matter how the car comes out, the hype built up here is pretty exciting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDsXsdNgov0&fmt=18 The carbon fiber shaft weaving machine is mesmerizing. Their inclusion of the 24 hour race is pretty funny, though.
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I could listen to that car all day. V10 in a production car with a 9k redline - ridiculous.
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kimbo305 posted:Toyota's LFA supercar montage. No matter how the car comes out, the hype built up here is pretty exciting. I couldnt find any videos of it, but I worked at a place that made ultrasound cables, they have a braided shield about 1/2" diameter, and the machiens that make that are really cool to watch, especially if they slow it down for you.
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I gotta say that the LFA looks the Fastest and the Furiousest. Really, the front end looks like a cheesy body-kit, I'm surprised Lexus went for that look and not something more elegant.
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I think it looks great. Looks very aggressive. The digital dashboard is absolutely amazing. You see a glimpse of the digital dash here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fTfRh0_RQ4 (jump to 1:00) ozziegt fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Oct 21, 2009 |
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Dave Inc. posted:I gotta say that the LFA looks the Fastest and the Furiousest. Really, the front end looks like a cheesy body-kit, I'm surprised Lexus went for that look and not something more elegant. The front is maybe a tiny bit overdone, but the overall shape looks really, really good. The beltline isn't hideous because that long door profile, it just looks completely unexpected. I love if when the Japanese make fast cars.
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Amazing and insightful interview with the grand wizard who created the GTR http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=20819 http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=20841
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Hypnolobster posted:The front is maybe a tiny bit overdone, but the overall shape looks really, really good. The beltline isn't hideous because that long door profile, it just looks completely unexpected. I love if when the Japanese make fast cars. I agree on the overall shape, especially the profile, but that front-end really doesn't belong. Especially the little "fangs" at the corners, that's standard tuner body-kit fare and looks out of place. The engine makes up for all of this though, sweet mother mercy.
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willd58 posted:Amazing and insightful interview with the grand wizard who created the GTR They seemed to be grilling him about the heavy weight, and he was belaboring the explanation. But finally he whipped out his expertise with designing the Nissan GT race cars (and he added, winning race cars), and explained how even with the experience on those high speed high downforce cars, he chose the design parameters he did for the GTR. It was pretty neat.
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willd58 posted:Amazing and insightful interview with the grand wizard who created the GTR
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destructo posted:I liked how he was stating how supercars should be compared by their personalities and character, not just by bare numbers. He probably designed the GT-R's manual with all the sweet pictures. 
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Sockington posted:He probably designed the GT-R's manual with all the sweet pictures. Warning - don't rice your GTR?
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1985 60 Minutes special on the Lamborghini Countach Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OwCR8AP2G0 Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY09dM3JNTk&NR=1 Their marketing director kicks rear end.
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ab0z posted:Warning - don't rice your GTR? Essentially, yes.
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Okay so it goes around a corner and accelerates and brakes so fast because it's heavy. That goes against everything I thought I know.
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pigdog posted:City bus loses brakes going downhill. Russian rescue truck at 2:10 is awesome. I want one.
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Ak Gara posted:Okay so it goes around a corner and accelerates and brakes so fast because it's heavy. Yeah it's really difficult to grasp what he's getting at, but I think he was talking about making the car the most stable as possible under all conditions/speeds?
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Dave Inc. posted:Yeah it's really difficult to grasp what he's getting at, but I think he was talking about making the car the most stable as possible under all conditions/speeds? He was trying to say that weight is needed to full apply all the forces the car can make (acceleration, braking, turning), but a CERTAIN weight can make the car all that much better. How do we make the R35 faster by removing weight (what loaded question?) ? And he goes back to his weight vs. contact patch talk to try and get the guy to understand.
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Sockington posted:He was trying to say that weight is needed to full apply all the forces the car can make (acceleration, braking, turning), but a CERTAIN weight can make the car all that much better. I get that with the weight he has created the most use-able super car on the market, but what I think the journalist was getting at was more, could you remove weight to make it perform better on a dry race track in optimum conditions and just not use it in bad conditions?
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willd58 posted:could you remove weight to make it perform better on a dry race track in optimum conditions I think there were 2 points the chief was trying to make: - a lightweight, high downforce car is way less stable at speed and of course antsier to drive - if you don't use much downforce, mechanical grip can only be achieved by weight used on your contact patches. e: obviously light cars can still have tons of grip, but the chief obviously had desired target normal forces he wanted over each patch. So while you could probably lighten the car and make it faster, it would still be giving up some mechanical grip even in the dry. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Oct 21, 2009 |
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