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abuimak posted:Disclaimer: I don't know poo poo about cars Yes, it has power steering. Has the steering always been as heavy as it is now? Do you hear a whining noise from under the hood when you turn the wheel? Any wet spots on your parking space or garage floor?
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McMadCow posted:Yes, it has power steering. Has the steering always been as heavy as it is now? Do you hear a whining noise from under the hood when you turn the wheel? Any wet spots on your parking space or garage floor? Yea its always been that way, I don't hear any noises or anything like that, I'm just going to assume that car has heavy steering, but is there a way I can modify it to not be so heavy? My wife has problems with it.
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E90s have heavy steering. I've never heard of a solution.
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Now I'm curious just how heavy it is. My E36 is noticeably heavier than my E30 in the steering department, but has it increased with every generation?
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abuimak posted:...is there a way I can modify it to not be so heavy? Add 5lbs of pressure to your front tires. Seriously.
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McMadCow posted:Now I'm curious just how heavy it is. My E36 is noticeably heavier than my E30 in the steering department, but has it increased with every generation? that's a bit wierd cause if anything, the opposite has been happening. The e46's steering was so overboosted that enough people complained and they revised it the following year and offered to change it if you brought the car in.
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Has anyone here ever attempted to install BMW GT1 and/or Progman in VMware and interface with a 20pin BMW or ODBII connecter? I've been reading fairly heavily about it and might make this my next project. So far I have determined that the hardest/cheapest/most comprehensive way to interface with my e46's computer is by emulating the GT1 hardware in VMware and using an ebay cable. (As opposed to Carsoft, or other seemingly inferior proprietary software) I've found several great resources, such as this tutorial http://dis.robmw.altervista.org/dis/index.htm This forum that requires invites: http://ecubb.bmwecu.org/board/ but has these useful articles: http://www.bmwecu.org/article001/ http://www.bmwecu.org/article002/ and this section of bimmerforums: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=233 I haven't yet even attempted to try any of this yet, because I'm still not entirely clear about exactly what software and cables I want. This subforum is really great for the basics http://ecubb.bmwecu.org/board/viewforum.php?f=19 I have surmised that I want to use GT1/DIS using an Inpa interface, as many have had success in this thread: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=803202&page=8 There is apparently an archived thread from 318ti.org that got deleted because of  OBD_diagnose_with_round_20pins_-_318ti_org_forum.zip that seemed to have some important information in it. However, I have not obtained this allusive .zip file yet  Granted, I haven't tried really hard yet.All of the information out there is very unorganized, and if/when I do figure this all out, I plan to make a succinct/organized repository for all information in the form of a thread or website. Until then I should mention that the reason I'm looking into all of this is partially because it would be really cool and nerdy to be able to tweak/program anything on my e46 to my heart's desire, but mainly because I was pulling out of my driveway and the dreaded ABS/BRAKE/DSC lights all turned on (like what flublandDrussiavelt mentioned on the last page, not an unheard of BMW problem), a little bit later ALL FOUR BRAKES LOCKED UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD and would not budge, even with the ignition off, and key out of the car. To disable the brake pump, I had to disconnect the battery and have it towed, where I eventually disconnected the ABS computer in the engine bay, which finally released the brakes. This is not a perminant solution obviously, and I would like to pull some codes. I have already determined I had a funky speed sensor that I have since replaced, which did not fix the problem. I called BMWNA, and they said I need to bring the car to a dealer and pay for them to scan the codes ($120). They have no interest in investigating this potentially dangerous symptom of ALL FOUR BRAKES LOCKING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. Someone on this forum suggested I bring it to a local Porsche shop that specializes in these sorts of failures, and they said my ABS computer is responsive, gives codes, and likely is not the culprit. From there they wanted more money to try throwing new parts at it (understandably), but weren't sure either. I guess eventually I'll take it to the dealer and get raped, or maybe the Porsche shop again, but first I'd like to try my hand at diagnosing it myself. SA:AI, car nerds on a computer nerd forum, someone else has got to be as interested in this as I am: Pimpsolo fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Nov 11, 2009 |
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Be careful, BMW is very protective of their software. And you can't actually "program" modules using DIS, you can simply load updated software. And even that feature was removed from DIS as of 2004.
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Of course, and with SA's rules, obviously there would be no sharing of isoz or anything of that sort. A discussion of BMW programming software is surely warranted though. I am aware you can't "program" modules using DIS, however I understand that you can program them with Progman, as I mentioned. Also, consider that the main feature I am interested in is the actual diagnosis side (if I didn't make that clear in the above post) and would absolutly consider the Carsoft option if it's clear that it will provide the level of services I need. I hate how I own a car that I can't diagnose and fix myself, and will likely become obsolete some day, when there's no reason it should. For all intents and purposes it is impossible to fix my e46's problem without the dealer, or heavily equipped independent shop. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember reading that it is impossible to reset the SRS light in late model e30s becasue BMW no longer supports interfacing with a car that old, and there's no independant options available. I hate the thought that without independent tinkerers, it will literally be impossible to keep e46s (or any modern cars, GT-Rs? etc. etc.) on the road. I want to be able to fix my own car.
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Wouldn't be easier (and not terribly expensive) to just buy the BMW pack from AutoEnginuity? It looks pretty comprehensive from their list of modules they claim the ability to talk to.
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Pimpsolo posted:Of course, and with SA's rules, obviously there would be no sharing of isoz or anything of that sort. A discussion of BMW programming software is surely warranted though. I am aware you can't "program" modules using DIS, however I understand that you can program them with Progman, as I mentioned. Also, consider that the main feature I am interested in is the actual diagnosis side (if I didn't make that clear in the above post) and would absolutly consider the Carsoft option if it's clear that it will provide the level of services I need. Progman is still just a program for uploading software, not a utility to write code. And Progman is already outdated. I agree that it's frustrating that we can't fix every problem on a car with a wrench and a machine shop anymore, but it's an inevitable side-effect of the growing complexity in car equipment. And there's a special tool for wiping the e30 airbag light, and I'm sure there are alternative ways to clear it short of sourcing a 20 year old tool.
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SlapActionJackson posted:Wouldn't be easier (and not terribly expensive) to just buy the BMW pack from AutoEnginuity? It looks pretty comprehensive from their list of modules they claim the ability to talk to. Like I said, I'm still open to considering good aftermarket solutions, however I still want to know and understand the advantages and disadvantages of each. Presumably there wouldn't be a massive number of people going though the complicated process of emulating the factory BMW setup if there wasn't some clear advantage over Carsoft or AutoEnginuity. peterjmatt posted:Progman is still just a program for uploading software, not a utility to write code. And Progman is already outdated. peterjmatt posted:I agree that it's frustrating that we can't fix every problem on a car with a wrench and a machine shop anymore, but it's an inevitable side-effect of the growing complexity in car equipment. peterjmatt posted:And there's a special tool for wiping the e30 airbag light, and I'm sure there are alternative ways to clear it short of sourcing a 20 year old tool. You seem to have a fairly good grasp on the BMW computer tools, why are people emulating them? Just for posterity? I wouldn't rule it out, but it seems extremely functional. Am I wrong in my belief that SSS allows you to change factory settings like DRL, and HVAC settings and such? Am I mistaken in my belief that Carsoft and/or AutoEnginuity do not perform those functions? Pimpsolo fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Nov 11, 2009 |
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flublandDrussiavelt posted:There is no manual 540 wagon in the united states, the best you can hope for in a manual is a 525it or a 528it. I'll second this. My wife drives a E39 525 and I don't regret not getting a V8. The inline six has less niggling maintenance issues. Like the stated cooling and intake hassles. We so a lot of travelling in her car and getting 29-30mpg all day long is pretty nice. E39 wise they are great cars and pretty bug free. I would recommend getting a pre-buy inspection done on anything you want to buy though.
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Sorry, the SSS is simply the name of the computer that runs the Progman application. There are no field provisions to actually write code. I don't think you realize just how difficult that would be. I don't have any experience with Carsoft, but I've been told that it does allow car-key memory changes (personalization settings). These changes are very minor, such as turning on day time running lights or deactivating one-touch unlocking. The basic fact is that when computers fail in the manner that your DSC unit appears to have, they need to be replaced. We can't program them back to life. Now, with more recent cars BMW is still writing new software to address known issues, and sometimes a software update is all that's needed. However we don't create that software in the field, and not every computer problem can be fixed with new code. And the e30 airbag tool is a single-tasker, not a code reader. It looks like an old 20-pin service light reset tool. I'm sure it either powers or grounds some of the pins on the diagnostic connector, and I'm sure its functionality could be duplicated by someone with a better knowledge of how it works. And people are emulating BMW diagnostic software and stealing diagnostic tools because buying them legitimately is prohibitively expensive, even for successful specialty shops. A GT1 use to cost a dealership about 17K to replace. I'm not sure what they charged the aftermarket, but I'm sure it was more. BMW recently released a new diagnostic and informational system that integrates a lot of features that make it difficult to pirate or outright steal. They have been trying to make their cars difficult for independent shops to work on for years, and this is just another step. They were actually sued back in the late 90s because the diagnostic port wasn't OBD2 standard compatible. And again in the early 2000s because generic scan tools couldn't read some of the proprietary codes in the car.
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random logic posted:I'll second this. My wife drives a E39 525 and I don't regret not getting a V8. The inline six has less niggling maintenance issues. Like the stated cooling and intake hassles. You can't beat the power of the V8 though. It's basically a matter of whether or not you want to pay a little extra and risk a few extra risks of problems, for more fun and power. I've driven an E34 525 (192hp), owned an E34 530 (6-cyl, 188hp), and now own an E34 540 (286hp), the power difference is absurd. You'll strain your neck flooring it from a standstill, and even if you're driving 80mph, it rockets forward as you put your foot down. A 525 begins feeling pretty weak already at 60mph, especially if you have the A/C on and a passenger or two, it feels downright slow at higher speeds. I know a lot of people probably say this and change their minds later as they get power hungry, but I am honestly content with the power of the 540, I can't imagine needing more power for street driving. Coupled with the sweet auto gearbox, good equipment and comfort level, and I'm basically set for a long, long time. Plus I'll gladly pay a bit extra for the V8 sound, people who say they prefer I6 sound just haven't driven a V8  . Although honestly, that's a personal preference.
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peterjmatt posted:Sorry, the SSS is simply the name of the computer that runs the Progman application. There are no field provisions to actually write code. I don't think you realize just how difficult that would be. I don't have any experience with Carsoft, but I've been told that it does allow car-key memory changes (personalization settings). These changes are very minor, such as turning on day time running lights or deactivating one-touch unlocking. Ehh, I'm afraid you're not reading my posts very carefully, as I have addressed just about everything you said. I am talking about emulating the SSS hardware which is capable of running software that can alter settings and read codes. If Carsoft is able to define personalization settings for things like SRS (which I mentioned myself), you're telling me emulated GT1 is not able to? Fair, however this is contrary to the reading I've been doing. You take it that I want to upload my own homebrew ECU firmware or something? If Carsoft lets me diagnose errors, and tweak personalization settings and GT1 does not, then I think I've found my solution. However I understand that GT1 is significantly more comprehensive than Carsoft and this is why people work so hard to emulate it. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I may very well be wrong on this point. If you read above, you would see that my DSC unit has not actually failed, there is a confounding variable that is resulting in the ABS module sending the signal to lock all the brakes. When ABS/DSC modules fail, they typically go into a fail-safe mode like flublandDrussiavelt's where they just no longer function, and you get a ton of lights on in your dash. In this instance, the ABS module is still coherently readable to those with a device that is capable of doing so (the Porsche shop). Particularly, it was announcing that one of the wheel speed sensors was bad (replaced, did not fix). For this particular task, it would be wonderful if I could read the codes now that the sensor is replaced, however I would be required to bring it to the Porsche shop (who admitted the dealer has a better reader) or the monopoly of the dealer at who knows what cost. I am aware of exactly what the Peake airbag reset tools are, however I am not aware of one that works for the e30. If you are, can you send me a link? You're still missing the point that I don't particularly care about it anyway, I was only using it as an example to illustrate the potential implications of cars whose computer systems are no longer supported. Fortunately the SRS light has the workaround of pulling the bulb, but e46s in 25 years will not have this luxury for things like ABS etc. I maintain my car as if it will last as long as my 325e. edit: I found this which seems to work for e30s, however the second post in this thread said quote:In '90 and some in '91, BMW didn't bother to route the SRS reset circuit to the diagnostic port in the engine bay. If your car's SRS reset circuit does go to the diagnostic port, then it's a simple reset at the dealer, if not, you need to undo the knee bolster, and expose the SRS computer, and hookup the dealer computer to its connector to reset it. So you'll need to go to the dealer to reset it, I don't believe it's a simple jumpering of pins to reset (as is the SI board), it's more than that. Pimpsolo fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Nov 11, 2009 |
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Just because you don't get a fault saying "no communication with DSC" doesn't mean the DSC unit hasn't failed. There's no external signal that would cause the brakes to lock on your car- later cars yes, but not an e46. You have either a bad computer or a bad hydraulic unit, with the computer being the far more likely culprit. I can't direct you to any e30 aftermarket tools. I've only reset one e30 airbag light, and that was with the factory tool. I can't remember whether it was a 90, 91 or 92. I honestly don't work on very many e30s other than my own. If you have any specific questions about what Progman or DIS can do, I'll do my best to answer as I'm very familiar with the software. I have no personal experience using Carsoft or any other aftermarket computer products.
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Pilsner posted:You can't beat the power of the V8 though. It's basically a matter of whether or not you want to pay a little extra and risk a few extra risks of problems, for more fun and power.
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The m60b40 (4.0L) was introduced to e34s in 1993 in the US.
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Pilsner posted:
I don't disagree with what you are saying, but the E34 M50 525 and the E39 double vanos M52 are completely different animals. While the latter doesn't have the torques of the V8 it is a very smooth livable powerband.
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Just bought a '92 325i with about a million miles on it. I might have to post a thread as I go through the cleanup. But one question first, where is the fuel filter located on these early E36s? I think I read somewhere that it's not in the usual location behind a panel under the engine compartment. One other question, is it normal for these cars to have a clutch safety switch? I can start the car up in gear regardless of whether or not the clutch is engaged. revmoo fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Nov 12, 2009 |
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Am literally a gnat's bollock-hair away from purchasing a mid-90's E36 320i for my first car (UK) - I would like to run it by you guys first though, do you have any particularly strong thoughts?
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Since I haven't posted it in a while: CONTENT FROM EARLIER IN THE THREAD: --------------------------------------------- Sterndotstern posted:My rule of thumb when considering any used BMW, especially E36s is: tack on no less than $1500 for parts to refresh the car post purchase. http://edgemotorworks.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=55 Sterndotstern posted:
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revmoo posted:Just bought a '92 325i with about a million miles on it. I might have to post a thread as I go through the cleanup. Forward of where it's located on later cars. Around the steering column area. Have fun.
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Forward of where it's located on later cars. Around the steering column area. Have fun. Can't wait. Tried repairing my OBC today, and failed. It's got the dead pixel issue where the screen ribbon detaches from the board. Should I get another 11-button unit or should I upgrade to the 18 button? Is it worth it?
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revmoo posted:Should I get another 11-button unit or should I upgrade to the 18 button? Is it worth it? I have this same issue with mine. As a follow-up, does the 18-button unit even have the same connecting harness?
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Sterndotstern posted:Since I haven't posted it in a while: Thanks Stern, appreciated. Is a 320 a better choice than the 316/318 as I've been told? (being an I6 that's less likely to have been ragged by teenage knob-heads) Southern Heel fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Nov 12, 2009 |
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revmoo posted:Just bought a '92 325i with about a million miles on it. I might have to post a thread as I go through the cleanup. High five, high mile '92 325i buddy! Mine doesn't have a clutch interlock either. Having the non-vanos engine is cool, they seem to be more reliable than the vanos versions. Keep in mind that the early '92s have a unique front strut design so if you want to upgrade the suspension at all you'll have to hunt down '92 specific parts or convert to the later strut mounts and struts. I've kept mine stock other than poly bushings all around and new ball joints and sway bar ends. How's your interior?
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NitroSpazzz posted:We decided to make today BMW Day and collected all the 3's in the driveway for some group shots. Very worthy of a Roundel or Bimmer magazine entry if not already there. SPORK08 posted:In the not so distant future I plan to replace my trusty beat to poo poo 95 civic with an E39 540 wagon. I don't want to spend more than 10k. An E39 is only an inch or two more roomy inside than an E46, have very few of them available, and have less sources for replacement parts, and the parts will most likely, cost more. I am guessing that the V8 is the real draw here for you. It also carries with it significantly more potential repair costs as well along with I am guessing around 15MPG. Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Nov 12, 2009 |
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Keyser S0ze posted:Very worthy of a Roundel or Bimmer magazine entry if not already there. since the e46 and e39 share a lot of parts and share engines, they cost the exact same to maintain (if the engines are both m52/54) and the availability of the parts is exactly the same also. You're not going to find either in the junkyard yet and spares will cost the same for either at a dealer or parts store.
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Jagtpanther posted:Is a 320 a better choice Undoubtedly, especially in the later (94-98) cars. You'll be surfing on waves of torque with the inherent smoothness of a I6 without suffering terribly at the petrol pump.
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flublandDrussiavelt posted:since the e46 and e39 share a lot of parts and share engines, they cost the exact same to maintain (if the engines are both m52/54) and the availability of the parts is exactly the same also. You're not going to find either in the junkyard yet and spares will cost the same for either at a dealer or parts store. Undoubtedly that is true for a 325/525 328/528 engine parts. I am going based on the posts I see over at Bimmerfest - I see posts suggesting that the V8 seems to have more maintenance and labor costs involved. In other "availability" terms there are a shitload more E46 325iT's for sale out there than 525/540/528iT's, especially 540's - so the chances of getting the color/transmission/etc that you want will be quite a bit higher with an E46 . Would you recommend a 540iT over a well sorted 525iT or even an older 528iT given the OP's budget concerns?
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McMadCow posted:I have this same issue with mine. As a follow-up, does the 18-button unit even have the same connecting harness? I, too, had the same problem but with my 18 button unit. It was replaced by the previous owner - basically new when I got the car in 2006 - and completely unreadable a couple months ago, having loving failed again. Rather than buy a new lovely BMW part (they seem unable / unwilling to fix this issue, even after it has been well known all these years) for a billion dollars, I sent it out to a guy in Germany who repairs them in some magic way so that they don't go bad again. He claims not a single one has come back after 9 years of doing this, and has many glowing reviews online. I got it back last month, and it works and looks like it's brand new. Total cost to me was about 138 euros, incl shipping from Germany - MUCH cheaper than a new MID from BMW. Turnaround time was somewhere between 3 - 4 weeks. No clue if the harness is the same as the 11 button though. Black88GTA fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Nov 13, 2009 |
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Whitey Ford posted:
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Keyser S0ze posted:Undoubtedly that is true for a 325/525 328/528 engine parts. I am going based on the posts I see over at Bimmerfest - I see posts suggesting that the V8 seems to have more maintenance and labor costs involved. In other "availability" terms there are a shitload more E46 325iT's for sale out there than 525/540/528iT's, especially 540's - so the chances of getting the color/transmission/etc that you want will be quite a bit higher with an E46 . edit: i mean replaced as often or worry about spontaneous failure
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Keyser S0ze posted:An E39 is only an inch or two more roomy inside than an E46 Really? I was thinking my next step up would be an E39, either a M5 if I can afford it or a 530i if I can't, post-facelift. Obviously the M5 would be a notable difference from my 325i, but would the lower model? Also, from the teaser Top Gear just posted:  That's right, the big 7 takes on the test track against it's Mercedes competition. wolrah fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Nov 13, 2009 |
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wolrah posted:Really? I was thinking my next step up would be an E39, either a M5 if I can afford it or a 530i if I can't, post-facelift. Obviously the M5 would be a notable difference from my 325i, but would the lower-end model? I can't tell, is that the V12 one?
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Pimpsolo posted:Diagnostic computer stuff I'm going to give this a shot. I don't have any problems to fix with it, but it would be really cool just to make it work. I'll let you know what I find out. EDIT: Okay well the software part was trivially easy and seems to be working correctly. I'll try hacking together a cable for it and see if I can actually make it work. Only thing I'm really interested in is GT1/DIS whatever. EDIT2: Well this thing is way too awesome for words. Pretty much every piece of technical info possible for every BMW car, computer diagnostics, coding, resets, personalization, etc. If every other manufacturer doesn't use something like this, they are thoroughly retarded. There's also some interesting information on here about their warranty procedure and stuff too. Like the fact that if you have one blown shock on your 325i, they will only replace the bad one. If that happens on an M car, they replace both even if the other is good. Lowclock fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Nov 14, 2009 |
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