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BigKOfJustice posted:As for the cast steering knuckles being an issue.... I generally agree with you, but I wonder if your cast knuckles are made of the same poo poo that the H2's cast knuckles are composed of. Since H1's have a military pedegree, I'd imagine the materials would be held to higher standards. Cast steel and ductile cast iron(like what the H2 is made of) look similar, but the cast steel unit will be much more impact resistant than the iron piece. <edit> According to this SAE .pdf, the type of material used in the H2's lower arm was first used in the IRS of the Mustang Cobra in 1999, so I'm guessing the H1 uses cast steel. http://www.intermet.com/resource/images_resource/2000-01-1290.pdf JnnyThndrs fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Nov 21, 2009 |
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Dr. Awesome MD posted:The man who did this is replacing his internals with a obscenely expensive PAR gearset Early Nissan SE-Rs have the same problem, and people have broken those PAR gearsets. The case flexes and spreads the gears apart, that's what kills them.
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Prelude Gundam posted:I know this is old and lacks enough photos to make up for the amount of text, but it's still relevant I think. That knuckle piece is upside down JnnyThndrs posted:I generally agree with you, but I wonder if your cast knuckles are made of the same poo poo that the H2's cast knuckles are composed of. Since H1's have a military pedegree, I'd imagine the materials would be held to higher standards. I'm no engineer, or metallurgist, but I would think that the use of cast iron in any type of automotive application besides and engine block or head let alone a high stress suspension part, especially on a "heavy duty" type vehicle is truly, automotive insanity.
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ab0z posted:Probably these pictures are just geared toward a different crowd. Boooooooo Also lookin' at that dump truck, it's almost cute. Like a puppy who skidded out on the ice.
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BigKOfJustice posted:Before anyone yells at me for white knighting the H2, it has it's flaws, and I think it's a porker [other than width, it's longer and taller than my h1, they hide it with black body cladding on the rockers and roof line ]. The H3 with the adventure package [front and rear eaton lockers] I like though. Most of the dumb H2 poo poo online is due to operator error, not so much the truck. I sat in an H2 once at an auto show. It has the worst visibility of basically any vehicle I've ever been in, and I've sat in the cockpit of a space shuttle. I literally could not see anything less than two feet tall within maybe 5 feet of the car in any direction -- absolutely the best way to run over toddlers. I also believe it has less usable interior space than my 1997 Escort station wagon. It was just a thoroughly unpleasant experience.
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ab0z posted:Probably these pictures are just geared toward a different crowd. What a mesh
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scapulataf posted:I'm no engineer, or metallurgist, but I would think that the use of cast iron in any type of automotive application besides and engine block or head let alone a high stress suspension part, especially on a "heavy duty" type vehicle is truly, automotive insanity. Cast iron comes in many types, from the ancient sort of grey iron found in old coal-burning stoves(the poo poo you can break chunks off with a light tap from a claw hammer), to high-nodular iron that works pretty well in crankshafts, all the way to heat-treated tempered ductile iron, which is fairly strong. But yeah, none of is nearly as impact resistant as a good cast steel.
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orange lime posted:I sat in an H2 once at an auto show. It has the worst visibility of basically any vehicle I've ever been in, and I've sat in the cockpit of a space shuttle. I literally could not see anything less than two feet tall within maybe 5 feet of the car in any direction -- absolutely the best way to run over toddlers. I also believe it has less usable interior space than my 1997 Escort station wagon. It was just a thoroughly unpleasant experience. Same here. I was shocked how such a huge vehicle could be so cramped. I tried the h3 too. I say tried because just getting in i bashed my knee into the side of the dashboard. The MINI coopers? much roomier 
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DELETED posted:What a mesh Your comedy is apawling
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mafoose posted:Early Nissan SE-Rs have the same problem, and people have broken those PAR gearsets. The case flexes and spreads the gears apart, that's what kills them. Pfffttt... even machined inserts can't save the G-series from the flex.  The only saviour is the almighty Camry transmission. As lame as that sounds.
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Hypnolobster posted:Your comedy is apawling Don't try to shift the focus of the conversation
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ab0z posted:Don't try to shift the focus of the conversation
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InitialDave posted:You're just clutching at straws now. These puns really grind my gears.
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PurpleFender posted:These puns really grind my gears. I thought people had some pretty good splines, personally.
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JnnyThndrs posted:I thought people had some pretty good splines, personally.
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InitialDave posted:I'm sorry, but I fail to see how that has any bearing on the matter? You all need to shut the fork up.
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IOwnCalculus posted:I'm pretty sure that was a joke about how many pickup truck owners will just throw another 500lb of crap in the bed of their truck that's already got 2000lb in it and is barely rated for that. Some people just flat out ignore any ratings what so ever. There is a Prius floating around where I live that was towing a beat up camary down the highway at a painfully slow speed. There is a video of some mudding hole were a jeep got stuck and they called the site's tow truck to help pull it out. 90's era F150 tow truck ended up bending in half.
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Kotaru posted:Some people just flat out ignore any ratings what so ever. There is a Prius floating around where I live that was towing a beat up camary down the highway at a painfully slow speed. Or like when I had a trailer hitch put on my Geo Tracker and I pulled 54 of those landscaping blocks (the ones used to make walls where each level of the wall is reset back from the level below) home on one trip, and 40 40# bags of top soil home from Lowe's on another, on my 4x8 trailer, the one rated for I think 1000 or maybe less pounds? I think those blocks were 30ish pounds each. Oh here we go: http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=12233-215-110601211&lpage=none different color but yeah 25 pounds each. Stopping was FUN! Luckily I only had to pull it 3 and a half miles. I probably wore at least a year maybe more, worth of clutch off because I had to slip it so hard to even take off at all. Rev to 3000 and slowly let the clutch out to get it to roll. Wish I had pictures, but it was 5 or 6 years ago.
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What better way to find out your load limits than to just pile on poo poo until the rear tires rub on the wheelwells? This is the preferred loading method for all compact pickups. Bonus points if you can get the shackles to flip.
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INTERNETRACECAR posted:You all need to shut the fork up. I think it's cool that their thoughts are all synchro'd up.
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Elviscat posted:I think it's cool that their thoughts are all synchro'd up.
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Kotaru posted:Some people just flat out ignore any ratings what so ever. There is a Prius floating around where I live that was towing a beat up camary down the highway at a painfully slow speed. And technically, I think it was destroyed by the other truck pulling on the front of it.
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InitialDave posted:Now that's pretty brassy. I'd baulk at saying something like that. OK, I think we've all had enough fun crashing around these doglegs in this discussion.
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MrChips posted:OK, I think we've all had enough fun crashing around these doglegs in this discussion. Yeah, I'm bushed.
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JnnyThndrs posted:Yeah, I'm bushed. Man, everyone just has to strut their stuff today, don't they? And to think I was expecting a muffled tone in this thread.
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lazer_chicken posted:Man, everyone just has to strut their stuff today, don't they? And to think I was expecting a muffled tone in this thread. I just idled in here and heard all this odd mechanical banter....
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Doctor Bud posted:I just idled in here and heard all this odd mechanical banter.... Ah, I apologize. I shouldn't let my emotions get torqued so quickly.
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This thread is wrecked. 
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incredibull posted:What better way to find out your load limits than to just pile on poo poo until the rear tires rub on the wheelwells? This is the preferred loading method for all compact pickups. Bonus points if you can get the shackles to flip. I was surprised that I didn't even get halfway to the bump stops when I completely filled my bed to the rails with wood this summer. We packed it tightly, too. If you're rubbing, you're probably at double your payload rating.
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Skyssx posted:I was surprised that I didn't even get halfway to the bump stops when I completely filled my bed to the rails with wood this summer. We packed it tightly, too. If you're rubbing, you're probably at double your payload rating. I stalled for about a minute looking for the pun here.
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He he payload rating I get it.
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Previa_fun posted:I stalled for about a minute looking for the pun here. Fang does puns better than anyone else on SA. I get overloaded.
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Shut the gently caress up. Gearbox.
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Adiabatic posted:Shut the gently caress up. Gearbox. I know this guy IRL, he's this funny all the time.
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Skyssx posted:I was surprised that I didn't even get halfway to the bump stops when I completely filled my bed to the rails with wood this summer. We packed it tightly, too. If you're rubbing, you're probably at double your payload rating. I dunno about that , i put 1040kg into a 98 hilux. The rear axle is rated for 1750kg but the wheels were only 1.5 inches away from scrubbing on the wheel wells. Hummer H2's are TINY inside at least the one i sat in. Plastic interior, cheap seats and i had more space in my lovely mitsubishi magna.
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A few years ago, a friend's father decided to show off his shiny F150 (this would be about a 2000 or 2001). He picked up the gravel to go under the rear deck. The second bucket-load into the bed didn't compress the springs at all, just the tires.
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ExecuDork posted:A few years ago, a friend's father decided to show off his shiny F150 (this would be about a 2000 or 2001). He picked up the gravel to go under the rear deck. The second bucket-load into the bed didn't compress the springs at all, just the tires. I remember flooring contractor guys sending their underlings to my store with their F150s. The would take maybe one pallet max of tiles to bottom out. it was a trip watching the truck slowly. bottom. out. then watch the sidewalls start to flatten. Just one load of tile would do it. my buddy's 2500 cummins wouldnt even touch the bumps. Proper truck that was. Gears 
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Aliass posted:I dunno about that , i put 1040kg into a 98 hilux. The rear axle is rated for 1750kg but the wheels were only 1.5 inches away from scrubbing on the wheel wells. Guessing this is the rating as the truck hits the scales, not "in the bed".
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Krakkles posted:Guessing this is the rating as the truck hits the scales, not "in the bed". Yeah i guessed that when the sidewalls touched the ground :S. Bout the same time an old bloke asked me if id ever seen leaf springs go the wrong way round.
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pacheco posted:Kinda like this but in reverse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh835unue5w From the latest episode of Mythbusters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjZFWY2SLGI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUkXDA2dtfQ I think this one is even better than the pancake. Perfect split down the middle, including the engine block.
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