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PirateDentist
Mar 28, 2006

Sailing The Seven Seas Searching For Scurvy

w_hat posted:

XBMC on windows can use MPC-HC as the backend for DXVA

I know what I'm doing this weekend then.

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blankooie
Jul 21, 2009
Run Windows 7? Have very high bitrate MKV bluray rips? Mad because its taxing your CPU to 100% on all possible cores?

I have here the codec of the gods.

http://labs.divx.com/mkvwin7preview

My ION System couldn't play my 8.5mbit/sec bluray rip of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. This was a great disappointment. Both of its cores taxed to 100%, terrible frame loss, and near-garbled sound. After installing the above, CPU usage is now at about 10%. Video playback, flawless.

Cheers to divx labs :)

ub
Feb 9, 2003

no dont
Pillbug
Who here uses a wireless trackball with their HTPCs? For me it's the absolute best pointer controller for couch use since I like to do more than the odd bit of web browsing, etc...

I'm currently using an ancient Logitech Wireless TrackMan Wheel which I love to death. (corded version linked, I guess they don't even make the wireless version anymore?) The range on it however is absolute balls: the receiver needs to be no more than 6-7 feet away for it to work. Are there any other options out there? All I really want is this exact same trackball but with better range.

Fist of Fury
Dec 3, 2004

THIS TITLE CAN'T POSSIBLY BE AS OBNOXIOUS AS MY POSTS
EDIT: Solved, thanks!

Fist of Fury fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Nov 15, 2009

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004

Fist of Fury posted:

EDIT: Solved, thanks!

What problem did you have? If you left up the original problem and edited in the solution, other people can learn :)

Fist of Fury
Dec 3, 2004

THIS TITLE CAN'T POSSIBLY BE AS OBNOXIOUS AS MY POSTS

Legdiian posted:

What problem did you have? If you left up the original problem and edited in the solution, other people can learn :)

It turned out that I was experiencing a 100% pure networking issue, trying to serve media from an OS X desktop mac to a Win 7 HTPC computer. As many of you may know, XP <--> Mac file sharing works beautifully, but Win7 <--> Mac is pretty dubious. My fix was to "downgrade to Windows XP," which is kind of a cheat, but seems to have gotten the job done. I really like Win 7, but I'm concerned about overloading the hardware of the aging HTPC equipment *anyway*, so that's kind of where I am on this. :)

blankooie
Jul 21, 2009
Yes, their is a significant problem with SMB between win7/vista and OS X. However, there is a mild fix but its a bit late for that now. Basically its just changing some Windows security policies and a few registry entries that got it to work for me.


Oh, and it is not a problem that has been present since vista/win7. It is a problem with OS X that has been present since leopard/snowleopard.

PopeOnARope
Jul 23, 2007

Hey! Quit touching my junk!
Hey guys. I'm looking for a decent, cheap tuner that works with 7 x64 and NTSC/ATSC tuners. I've seen and can get KWorld units locally, but honestly, gently caress them.

What are my options here? I just want to watch cable TV on my PC with my GF, maybe play my old consoles.

dweebgal
Aug 1, 2004
I'm thinking of gutting and rebuilding my old desktop PC to use as an HTPC.

What I would ideally like to be able to do are these two things, and hopefully someone can tell me if they are possible:

1. Save all my iTunes music on the HTPC hard drive and point itunes at that folder from my macbook (I'd rather not duplicate my collection across two machines if possible)

2. Be able to see the hard drive of the HTPC from my macbook so I can tell torrents etc to download there, or at the very least, move them across once they're downloaded.

blankooie
Jul 21, 2009

PopeOnARope posted:

Hey guys. I'm looking for a decent, cheap tuner that works with 7 x64 and NTSC/ATSC tuners. I've seen and can get KWorld units locally, but honestly, gently caress them.

What are my options here? I just want to watch cable TV on my PC with my GF, maybe play my old consoles.

TV Wonder 650. Available in USB and PCI flavors.

emuporium
Aug 20, 2004
Sacrilicious
Anyone have an Nvidia 8500GT on windows 7 by chance? It worked great with the limited dxva support in xp for a long time, but when I tried 7 with dxva mode (in Windows Media Player or mpc-hc) it briefly plays fine (smooth, low cpu) then consistently crashes the video driver.

The exception to this is if the video is played in full screen with Media Center, or using the D3DFullscreen option in mpc-hc. While this works, I do like having the option of having the video in a window to move around. I have since replaced the card in my htpc with an ati card that works just as it should, placing the 8500 in my main computer, where the same problems occur. I assume the card is just a dud but was wondering if there was some little known underlying problem with this particular model or driver.

The error occurred in fresh installs of win7 64 and 32 on my htpc, and an existing 64 bit installation on my main computer (replacing a 7800gtx). I don't game on this computer at the moment so I figured I'd replace my noisy gtx for the time being.

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Lazy Eye posted:

I said this before about ASUS's Ion board, the AT3N7A-I. The replacement never arrived and after calling, they said they are out of the quiet fans. I'm thinking they never bothered to fix the noise issue as promised. Looks like I'll be rigging something up on my own because it sounds there's a server in my living room.

I put this on my Asus Ion board and it works pretty well. Definitely quieter than stock:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185055&Tpk=SY124020L

Only problem is that it doesn't report fan speed so the board errors out on startup. Cools just as well as the stock fan (I have a fullsize case with a 120mm fan right above the board, so YMMV).

Craptin Mypants
Sep 6, 2009
want an HTPC, first time building, here is what I am thinking, any advice or changes you would make?

MOBO
ASUS P5N7A-VM LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 9300/nForce 730i HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131348

CASE
Antec Black Aluminum / Steel Fusion Remote Black Micro ATX Media Center / HTPC Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129054

TUNER
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 Dual TV Tuner / Encoder 1229 PCI-Express x1 Interface - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116037

PSU
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003

PROCESSOR
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 Yorkfield 2.66GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80580Q8400 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115057

OPTICAL
LG Black 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-ROM SATA Internal Combo LG Blu-ray Reader & 16X LightScribe DVD±R DVD Burner - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136162

RAM
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996580 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146726

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Green WD15EADS 1.5TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136351

Price comes out to $933 including instant and mail-in rebates. Planning on running win7 on it. Thanks in advance for the help.

Lazy Eye
Sep 5, 2003

powderific posted:

I put this on my Asus Ion board and it works pretty well. Definitely quieter than stock:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185055&Tpk=SY124020L

Only problem is that it doesn't report fan speed so the board errors out on startup. Cools just as well as the stock fan (I have a fullsize case with a 120mm fan right above the board, so YMMV).

I ended up getting this 80mm case fan and made a duct out of duct tape to get some air flowing over it. The fan was a lot louder than you'd expect an eXtreme Silent fan to be, so I swapped the pins in the molex adapter to run off of 5v instead of 12. That helped tons and now I believe the loudest component is the hard disk.

I have the same problem with the error, but it boots anyway, so no biggie. My GPU temps are under 50C even when decoding blu-ray, so I think it's ready to go.

SynMoo
Dec 4, 2006

Not sure about finances, but that CPU is going to be overkill. You could easily get away with a Duo.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I'm selling my old HTPC if anyone's interested
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3229496

The Aphasian
Mar 8, 2007

Psychotropic Hops


Prerelease of Flash 10.1 (hardware acceleration) is available.

http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

Just note that this is basically a beta, but for those with stuttering fullscreen hulu/youtube, it may be a godsend.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

The Aphasian posted:

Prerelease of Flash 10.1 (hardware acceleration) is available.

http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

Just note that this is basically a beta, but for those with stuttering fullscreen hulu/youtube, it may be a godsend.

Anandtech has already done some testing including some ION results.

Kreeblah
May 17, 2004

INSERT QUACK TO CONTINUE


Taco Defender
It seems to be Windows-only for now:

Adobe posted:

In Flash Player 10.1, H.264 hardware acceleration is not supported under Linux and Mac OS. Linux currently lacks a developed standard API that supports H.264 hardware video decoding, and Mac OS X does not expose access to the required APIs. We will continue to evaluate adding the feature to Linux and Mac OS in future releases.

So much for accelerated streaming on my XBMC system. :sigh:

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Kreeblah posted:

It seems to be Windows-only for now:


So much for accelerated streaming on my XBMC system. :sigh:

So, XBMC gets GPU acceleration on Linux, and Flash gets GPU acceleration on Windows.
Welp

blankooie
Jul 21, 2009
I've sent the money for the keyboard. I was SOO tempted to get the headphones too, but I think I might end up with a nice pair of Sennheisers around Christmas time.

Shipping info and all that is in the paypal email.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

blankooie posted:

I've sent the money for the keyboard. I was SOO tempted to get the headphones too, but I think I might end up with a nice pair of Sennheisers around Christmas time.

Shipping info and all that is in the paypal email.

lol, you replied in the wrong thread but I'll get it shipped out tomorrow morning ;)

blankooie
Jul 21, 2009

BorderPatrol posted:

lol, you replied in the wrong thread but I'll get it shipped out tomorrow morning ;)

Haha oops. I had both windows open. I just woke up after a long night and I'm sort of :psyduck: at the moment.

for content: Does anyone know if you can use the normal ATI Tv Wonder 650 USB with a Mac if you use the Mac drivers? I don't think there is any difference between the Mac version. Its the drivers that are impossible to find though. The ATI site returns nothing on drivers :(

blankooie fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Nov 17, 2009

SaintofKillers
Jul 22, 2003
The most merciful thing in the world . . . is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. - H.P. Lovecraft
Yeah, the 10.1 beta release has made hulu run very smoothly on my Asrock 330. This is under Windows 7.

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.

Craptin Mypants posted:

want an HTPC, first time building, here is what I am thinking, any advice or changes you would make?

MOBO
ASUS P5N7A-VM LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 9300/nForce 730i HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131348

CASE
Antec Black Aluminum / Steel Fusion Remote Black Micro ATX Media Center / HTPC Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129054

TUNER
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 Dual TV Tuner / Encoder 1229 PCI-Express x1 Interface - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815116037

PSU
CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX 450W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003

PROCESSOR
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 Yorkfield 2.66GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80580Q8400 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115057

OPTICAL
LG Black 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-ROM SATA Internal Combo LG Blu-ray Reader & 16X LightScribe DVD±R DVD Burner - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136162

RAM
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996580 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146726

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Green WD15EADS 1.5TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136351

Price comes out to $933 including instant and mail-in rebates. Planning on running win7 on it. Thanks in advance for the help.

I'm late, but honestly there's no reason at all to spend $1000 on an HTPC if all you're doing is media playback.

An athlon X2 240, 785g (or 8200) motherboard, and 2G of ram will work just as well and not cost nearly that much. Even if you've got an Intel hardon (which you shouldn't), something like an e7200 + a 9200 motherboard would cost way less and still be perfectly capable.

Also, a ~300w PSU will easily power a system with integrated graphics.

Legdiian
Jul 14, 2004

Crackbone posted:

I'm late, but honestly there's no reason at all to spend $1000 on an HTPC if all you're doing is media playback.

I'm also late but wanted to agree with this. I spent almost $800 on my htpc thinking I was going to use it for gaming and things like that. Now I have an $800 htpc that I just use to run XBMC Live. Pretty sure I'd get the same functionality out of any of the $300~ pre-made htpc companies are offering.

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.

Legdiian posted:

I'm also late but wanted to agree with this. I spent almost $800 on my htpc thinking I was going to use it for gaming and things like that. Now I have an $800 htpc that I just use to run XBMC Live. Pretty sure I'd get the same functionality out of any of the $300~ pre-made htpc companies are offering.

Right now, those tiny media boxes that Acer/Dell/Popcorn Hour are putting out are pretty compelling, assuming you're not trying to use them as a regular computer. The only reason my full size box is still around is the promise of a true HD-Cable PVR solution that's supposed to be available early next year. And even then I'd guess there will be a external box/usb solution eventually.

Fnord
Apr 20, 2001
WHAT

Crackbone posted:

Right now, those tiny media boxes that Acer/Dell/Popcorn Hour are putting out are pretty compelling, assuming you're not trying to use them as a regular computer. The only reason my full size box is still around is the promise of a true HD-Cable PVR solution that's supposed to be available early next year. And even then I'd guess there will be a external box/usb solution eventually.

From what I have heard of the new cable card decoders all of the work is done on card so you still won't need a beefy computer. Hard drive bandwidth will be the biggest issue when you are trying to record 4 programs at a time.

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.

Fnord posted:

From what I have heard of the new cable card decoders all of the work is done on card so you still won't need a beefy computer. Hard drive bandwidth will be the biggest issue when you are trying to record 4 programs at a time.

Size. I don't think they'll have a form factor that will fit into these "nano-atx" cases, for lack of a better form factor description. I'm sure they'll come around eventually, but I'd guess they'll come after fullsize PCI cards.

blankooie
Jul 21, 2009

Fnord posted:

From what I have heard of the new cable card decoders all of the work is done on card so you still won't need a beefy computer. Hard drive bandwidth will be the biggest issue when you are trying to record 4 programs at a time.

I imagine with these they would improvise simple solutions to that, like recording to two different hard drives.

In my HTPC I have 2xWD 1TB Black edition drives. I'd highly recommend them for HTPCs, the speed really is quite good. 32mb cache really helps. They have a 2TB drive also, with 64mb cache. Delayed writes, no more!

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



dweebgal posted:

I'm thinking of gutting and rebuilding my old desktop PC to use as an HTPC.

What I would ideally like to be able to do are these two things, and hopefully someone can tell me if they are possible:

1. Save all my iTunes music on the HTPC hard drive and point itunes at that folder from my macbook (I'd rather not duplicate my collection across two machines if possible)

Under linux, I run firefly media server: http://www.fireflymediaserver.org/

I simply point it at a partition that contains all my music, and it shares it on the network via daap, which is the protocol itunes uses for shared libraries. I also make the partition available as a network share, should I need to copy the files or tag them or whatever

quote:

2. Be able to see the hard drive of the HTPC from my macbook so I can tell torrents etc to download there, or at the very least, move them across once they're downloaded.

I do this with a combination of rtorrent and samba (watch directory, which I can place torrent files, and rtorrent running on the HTPC picks up the files directly

vanilla slimfast
Dec 6, 2006

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome



Fnord posted:

From what I have heard of the new cable card decoders all of the work is done on card so you still won't need a beefy computer. Hard drive bandwidth will be the biggest issue when you are trying to record 4 programs at a time.

This is really no different than QAM/ATSC capture. The data is already digital, so it's just a matter of capture. I/O throughput matters more than CPU in this case.

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.

vanilla slimfast posted:

This is really no different than QAM/ATSC capture. The data is already digital, so it's just a matter of capture. I/O throughput matters more than CPU in this case.

Early testers on the new Ceton cards said 4 streams recorded runs into disk i/o way before anything else, and overall it's not a problem.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

I'm seeing a lot of guides for what hardware to put together, but i'm not seeing anything for what cables I need to get to hook up my PC to my HDTV. I bought a DVI to HDMI cable, so I have the video part covered, but what about sound? If I want to play sound through my TV's speakers (so I assume a cable from my soundcard to my t.v.?), what do I need to get?

blankooie
Jul 21, 2009

I said come in! posted:

I'm seeing a lot of guides for what hardware to put together, but i'm not seeing anything for what cables I need to get to hook up my PC to my HDTV. I bought a DVI to HDMI cable, so I have the video part covered, but what about sound? If I want to play sound through my TV's speakers (so I assume a cable from my soundcard to my t.v.?), what do I need to get?

If the video card supports it, it might be able to run sound through that HDMI cable. Others you are going to need a 3.5mm to RCA cable, or a optical cable if your TV and system have outputs/inputs

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

blankooie posted:

If the video card supports it, it might be able to run sound through that HDMI cable. Others you are going to need a 3.5mm to RCA cable, or a optical cable if your TV and system have outputs/inputs

I just saw the stickied FAQ and am reading that right now, but it looks like i'll want this; http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021804&p_id=665&seq=1&format=2

I have a Nvidia GTX 260, so I don't think I am covered by what you are talking about. This is all very new to me.

Horn
Jun 18, 2004

Penetration is the key to success
College Slice
I'm having a bit of a problem with the HDMI audio and my Zotac GeForce 9300 HDMI. I've tried a bunch of drivers from nvidia but the only way I get audio over hdmi to work is if I use the drivers from the CD that came with the board. This wouldn't be a huge problem except I can't upgrade the video drivers and the new ones have better controls for fixing under/overscan (and the worry that I'll lose the driver CD at some point).

Does anyone else have this board and is successfully using updated drivers? I'm running XP 32 bit.

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


blankooie posted:

TV Wonder 650. Available in USB and PCI flavors.
Just picked up one of these yesterday, the USB kind, and it failed miserably. Got the latest drivers, Windows 7 drivers version 9.11 (don't ask me how I found them, their site is a bevy of unhelpfulness) and it improved, which is to say it worked for approximately one channel change then never displayed anything again. Got everything from no signal errors to low bitrate errors, but needless to say Windows Media Center just would not work with it no matter how much I juggled drivers and setup. Everything appears to install perfectly, but nothing ever works. This is not an old crudded up system either, it's a freshly built one on a new empty C drive, and I have a cheapo ATSC USB stick that I got off a Woot or something that works just perfectly. Going to have to go back to the store today, return it and chip in the extra bucks for a Hauppauge.

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.

Horn posted:

I'm having a bit of a problem with the HDMI audio and my Zotac GeForce 9300 HDMI. I've tried a bunch of drivers from nvidia but the only way I get audio over hdmi to work is if I use the drivers from the CD that came with the board. This wouldn't be a huge problem except I can't upgrade the video drivers and the new ones have better controls for fixing under/overscan (and the worry that I'll lose the driver CD at some point).

Does anyone else have this board and is successfully using updated drivers? I'm running XP 32 bit.

I believe there is a separate "nvidia HDMI audio" driver that is not included with the Geforce drivers. See if you can find and install it. In my install, for example, I have both an HDMI audio device and Nvidia HDMI audio device, and I have to set the Nvidia one as default to get it to work.

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blankooie
Jul 21, 2009

CrashCat posted:

Just picked up one of these yesterday, the USB kind, and it failed miserably. Got the latest drivers, Windows 7 drivers version 9.11 (don't ask me how I found them, their site is a bevy of unhelpfulness) and it improved, which is to say it worked for approximately one channel change then never displayed anything again. Got everything from no signal errors to low bitrate errors, but needless to say Windows Media Center just would not work with it no matter how much I juggled drivers and setup. Everything appears to install perfectly, but nothing ever works. This is not an old crudded up system either, it's a freshly built one on a new empty C drive, and I have a cheapo ATSC USB stick that I got off a Woot or something that works just perfectly. Going to have to go back to the store today, return it and chip in the extra bucks for a Hauppauge.


Huh? Thats strange. I run my 650 USB 24/7. Only needs reset every once in a while due to the low-bitrate error (reset consist of unpluggin the unit and plugging it back in)

Did you get some branded unit or the ATI one? I don't think there is a difference between them but you never know.

edit: I'm using the vista drivers on win7 since I couldn't find the win7 drivers. I am going to look again and see if they cause problems.

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