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Z3n posted:About 10% speedo error is standard on pretty much all motorcycles. Is there any way to fix that? I dunno if it's correct, but I primarily use my speedo to determine when I should switch gears. Are tachometers off as well? Also that would explain why my bike feels slower then my car, even though I'm driving the same speed most of the time.
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OGS-Remix posted:Is there any way to fix that? I dunno if it's correct, but I primarily use my speedo to determine when I should switch gears. Are tachometers off as well? A common cheap fix is to install a small digital bicycle computer. It will read from a magnet mounted on the front wheel or brake rotor, and give you a much more accurate reading as long as its set up properly. Here's a way-in-depth guide on ninja250.org.
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Nov 3, 2009 15:22
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OGS-Remix posted:Is there any way to fix that? I dunno if it's correct, but I primarily use my speedo to determine when I should switch gears. Are tachometers off as well? Switch to a 120/70 profile front tire (if stock is a 120/60). Besides that, no way to actually fix the gauge, you'll adjust to it. Or you can go the bicycle speedo route.
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-Inu- posted:Also, you could always consider the "sport touring" options that Kawi/Yamaha offer; ZZR600/YZF600R. The ZZR is the exact same bike performance wise as the '03 ZX6R so it is a full on supersport, but it's decently more comfortable and cheaper to insure than your standard supersport. I priced insurance on a ZZR and it was double what my 250 is, which is quite a bit cheaper than what a CBR600 would have been, but it's going to vary heavily person to person. I'd at least give it a look if you truly want a bigger bike though. Minor correction, the 2005-2007? ZZR600 is the same bike as the 1998-2002 ZX6R. "Methusulah" posted:I'm thinking an 08+ 250 or an ex500. I saw a super-bitchen-sweet r6 at the yamaha dealer that's actually the mechanics', has the goofy fender eliminated and is priced to own (6k) but then Z3n mentioned earlier about being comfortable on a bike, and I realize I'm not. cornering still gives me some trouble, and I'd like to stay on a 250, at least until i'm 25 and insurance goes down a bit." The DRZ400SM is similar in power to a Ninja 250, but it produces more torque, so it's a lot quicker off the line. While the 250 is making 16 HP at 7000 rpm, the DRZ is making 33 (it's peak). I haven't ridden the 250, but the DRZ out handles my '02 ZX6R. It's a real confidence builder in the corners, as it's suspension is able to eat up rough surfaces that will have you reaching for the front brake on a sport bike. With only 5 gears, and no fairing it's not as good as the 250 on the highway. The windblast over 70mph is uncomfortable, and it starts to wobble at 90 before topping out just over 100.  Click here for the full 1200x800 image. Caption: Some guy on SMJ.
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Nov 6, 2009 03:51
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Methusulah posted:Oh, and the bike in the back of the first picture was from another kid my age (21) that hit a guard rail on the same road I was on just a week later. He was killed That's an 05-07 ZZR.
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Zool posted:The DRZ400SM is similar in power to a Ninja 250, but it produces more torque, so it's a lot quicker off the line. While the 250 is making 16 HP at 7000 rpm, the DRZ is making 33 (it's peak). I haven't ridden the 250, but the DRZ out handles my '02 ZX6R. It's a real confidence builder in the corners, as it's suspension is able to eat up rough surfaces that will have you reaching for the front brake on a sport bike. The DRZ is an excellent beginners bike. Having ridden ex250 and drz, the power is fine and more importantly it's a very comfortable seating position and feels very stable although I've not ridden it faster than 30mph. Being 6'5" it's a great fit. Unfortunately they tend to go for around the same as an sv650 which I'd probably prefer.
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Nov 6, 2009 17:33
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Does anyone have any experience with re-valving the front shocks on the new gen 250Rs? I'd specifically like information about good aftermarket solutions. I'm getting tired of the front of the bike doing its best submarine impression whenever I even think about using the brakes. The drat thing will bottom out when I hit the brakes just walking the bike.
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Nov 6, 2009 21:06
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frozenphil posted:Does anyone have any experience with re-valving the front shocks on the new gen 250Rs? I'd specifically like information about good aftermarket solutions. I'm getting tired of the front of the bike doing its best submarine impression whenever I even think about using the brakes. The drat thing will bottom out when I hit the brakes just walking the bike. You need to respring them. Valving adjustments will depend on you and your riding style...if they're damping rod forks I'd look into racetech emulators, there's no "revalving" of a damping rod fork.
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Nov 9, 2009 04:11
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Welp, today my clutch lever feels very loose and it looks like there is some slack in the cable. Is there any way I can tighten it up a bit to drive home from work or do I need to bring more tools and fix it here? Also, I think unrelated, but becoming annoying, is that I get inconsistent power at the low middle of the RPM range, right around 5 - 7k it comes in and out. Low and high RPMs seem fine. I'm pretty sure it developed recently, but I may be noticing it more as my riding style changes. I'm pretty new, and I want to learn how to fix my own bike, but I haven't encountered or worked with either of these things before. Any thoughts 250 guru goons? Oh and one more thing, any suggestions on good places to find other riders in Austin?
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Nov 17, 2009 00:56
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Assuming you own a classic 250 http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Adjusting_the_clutch_cable
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Nov 17, 2009 00:58
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blugu64 posted:Assuming you own a classic 250 Perfect, I should have known they would have something. Thanks!
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Resource posted:Also, I think unrelated, but becoming annoying, is that I get inconsistent power at the low middle of the RPM range, right around 5 - 7k it comes in and out. Low and high RPMs seem fine. I'm pretty sure it developed recently, but I may be noticing it more as my riding style changes. You'll need to peruse here; specifically here and here.
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Nov 17, 2009 03:25
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Well the clutch cable adjustment sure was easy, but this jetting thing seems to be quite an undertaking. I guess I can hold off on finding people to ride with until I get these things sorted out. Is it likely that the settings for the jetting got off or is it more likely the cold weather or something? I guess what I was hoping to know is, will I need to recalibrate the jetting again once it's warmer outside? If it'll work fine when it warms up I could just wait ("winter" in Texas is pretty short) but if it's still going to be a problem I might as well try to fix it now. In any case, thanks again for pointing me in the right direction.
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Nov 17, 2009 17:06
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If you've already heard by now I've crashed my bike posted on the last page (it's in the crash thread, let's keep it there) I need to know how to remove my left handlebar on the 2009 model? And also how to remove the left control box thingy. I've already started pulling it apart and have all of the plastics off but no matter how hard I try I can't loose the hex screws keeping that handlebar on.
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Nov 18, 2009 02:45
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Resource posted:Well the clutch cable adjustment sure was easy, but this jetting thing seems to be quite an undertaking. I guess I can hold off on finding people to ride with until I get these things sorted out. Welcome to carburetion! There's a reason the world has moved on to fuel injection. A better answer is, it depends. You can get it pretty close for all seasons with some futzing, but to get it right you need to adjust it for each season. Once you set it you'll more than likely be fine since you live in Texas. The carbs are set wrong from the factory in order to pass emissions standards; they are really lean in the RPM range that gets tested, 4k to 7k RPM.
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Nov 18, 2009 03:56
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Argh! Now I have a stripped hex screw on my handlebar.  Going after work to get an EasyOut set :/
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Nov 19, 2009 16:35
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My buddy bought a 250R a while ago and I brought it home from the dealer for him. It's tough when you get beat off the line by an SUV that didn't even know you wanted to race. That, and the bike won't do clutchless upshifts. After riding this bike once I no longer recommend it as a starter bike.
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Nov 22, 2009 04:35
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Shibaku posted:My buddy bought a 250R a while ago and I brought it home from the dealer for him. It's tough when you get beat off the line by an SUV that didn't even know you wanted to race. Sounds like it's either not running right or rider error
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Nov 22, 2009 05:06
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Shibaku posted:My buddy bought a 250R a while ago and I brought it home from the dealer for him. It's tough when you get beat off the line by an SUV that didn't even know you wanted to race. I'm sorry that you purchased a lemon, don't know how to ride, and or live in an area inhabited solely by people who drive modified SUVs. 
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Nov 22, 2009 20:29
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frozenphil posted:I'm sorry that you purchased a lemon, don't know how to ride, and or live in an area inhabited solely by people who drive modified SUVs. Hey maybe his town has lots of Cayenne Turbo S'.
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Nov 22, 2009 20:58
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Shibaku posted:My buddy bought a 250R a while ago and I brought it home from the dealer for him. It's tough when you get beat off the line by an SUV that didn't even know you wanted to race. If he doesn't want it, I've got a 100 bucks and 2 pounds of pork chops with his name on it!
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Nov 22, 2009 21:36
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Methusulah posted:If he doesn't want it, I've got a 100 bucks and 2 pounds of pork chops with his name on it! Shoot, I'll trade him a bike with over twice the displacement, and cheaper to insure.
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Nov 22, 2009 23:42
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Shibaku posted:My buddy bought a 250R a while ago and I brought it home from the dealer for him. It's tough when you get beat off the line by an SUV that didn't even know you wanted to race. I've gotten really bored every time I've ridden my friend's '08. I'm 6'3, my knees are above the tank, it feels like a little toy. I love the idea of a high revving, small displacement Motorcycle, but to me it just felt underpowered. Even compared to my DR350, which is really saying something.
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Nov 23, 2009 05:44
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Chill_Bebop posted:I've gotten really bored every time I've ridden my friend's '08. I'm 6'3, my knees are above the tank, it feels like a little toy. Were you shifting before 11k RPM?
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sectoidman posted:Were you shifting before 11k RPM? I rode it "Energetically" meaning I revved the piss out of it, and at all points in the powerband it just felt woefully slow and underpowered. Quiet, too. Hell if i'm at 11k then gently caress I want to hear my engine.
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250s aren't fast compared to other motorcycles. Their real gain is in the light weight and general flickability/fun factor of riding one. No other bike lets you get pinned and work the gearbox like that without very, very illegal stuff. Your DR will absolutely feel faster, due to gearing and the low end that a single's gonna have. And gearboxes can take a few thousand miles to wear in, but a modern bike is going to take a different touch on clutchless shifting from an older bike or a dirtbike. Z3n fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Nov 23, 2009 |
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Shibaku posted:My buddy bought a 250R a while ago and I brought it home from the dealer for him. It's tough when you get beat off the line by an SUV that didn't even know you wanted to race. So not only are you trying to race cars on the street but you're trying to shift without the clutch, on a bike you don't own, new from the dealership 
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Chill_Bebop posted:I rode it "Energetically" meaning I revved the piss out of it, and at all points in the powerband it just felt woefully slow and underpowered. Quiet, too. Hell if i'm at 11k then gently caress I want to hear my engine. You need to see a specialist about your deafness if you can't hear a 250 at 11k RPM. I can hear mine just fine at any RPM, even with my full face helmet and ear plugs. I guess I'm not into the whole squid/stunter/harley scene where a bike is too quiet if it doesn't inspire the local citizenry to enact laws regulating my exhaust's decibel output.
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frozenphil posted:You need to see a specialist about your deafness if you can't hear a 250 at 11k RPM. I can hear mine just fine at any RPM, even with my full face helmet and ear plugs. I guess I'm not into the whole squid/stunter/harley scene where a bike is too quiet if it doesn't inspire the local citizenry to enact laws regulating my exhaust's decibel output. So you don't rev up your bike to get a big grin on your face? All I'm saying is that the 250 seemed really slow to rev and even when it got up there, didn't really seem like the engine was screaming too loud.
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Chill_Bebop posted:So you don't rev up your bike to get a big grin on your face? All I'm saying is that the 250 seemed really slow to rev and even when it got up there, didn't really seem like the engine was screaming too loud. I'm pretty much never under 8k RPM when I'm on my bike; usually over 10k. I've never had a problem with the bike being slow to rev because I know to keep the bike in its powerband or else suffer the consequences of riding a 250. Why do you want the engine to "scream loud"? It's a tiny parallel twin for god's sake, not a v8 or something that sounds good when revved up. Do you have a desire to piss off everyone around you or do you just not like keeping your hearing?
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I know this is the thread for ninja love, and by god, you better love a ninja if you post here, but I think the guy's just saying he doesn't like the tenor of the engine noise. For instance, maybe he thinks it sounds like a sewing machine. HIS WORDS NOT MINE (what a bastard). But that doesn't automatically make him a fag. Or even bikeurious. Just like the mere fact that having a powerful thing throbbing between my legs doesn't mean I secretly wish I was a woman. I do, it's just that that doesn't have anything to do with it.
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Chill_Bebop posted:So you don't rev up your bike to get a big grin on your face? All I'm saying is that the 250 seemed really slow to rev and even when it got up there, didn't really seem like the engine was screaming too loud. Are you sure it wasn't having some sort of mechanical issue? Because you should be able to hear a stock 250 without any issue at 250, it's gonna feel like it's about to explode and be screaming away even with the stock exhaust. It sounds like there's some kind of problem with the bike.
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TheCosmicMuffet posted:I know this is the thread for ninja love, and by god, you better love a ninja if you post here, but I think the guy's just saying he doesn't like the tenor of the engine noise. For instance, maybe he thinks it sounds like a sewing machine. HIS WORDS NOT MINE (what a bastard). But that doesn't automatically make him a fag. Or even bikeurious. Pretty much. frozenphil is reading a little too much into what I was saying. It just did not sound like it was really at redline. I don't know any other way I can say it, but if anyone wants to make any more snap judgments on my character and riding style go ahead. I had a much different idea of Ninja 250s before I rode one and basically walked away from it thinking it was kind of boring, underpowered, and anticlimactic no matter how I rode it. I'd still recommend it to people just getting into bikes if only because its cheap, has a huge support base and is pretty tame, but I don't think its a bike I could ever enjoy riding. I'm not one of those guys who says "You'll Outgrow it get a CBR600 immediately", I just thought maybe the 250 would a somewhat slower, but revtastic little screamer, and I just walked away with a very different experience.
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Chill_Bebop posted:Pretty much. frozenphil is reading a little too much into what I was saying. It just did not sound like it was really at redline. I don't know any other way I can say it, but if anyone wants to make any more snap judgments on my character and riding style go ahead. You need to ride a 4 cylinder 250. That's what you're looking for. Or one of the 400s, but really a 4 cylinder 250 is what you want. 20k redline, little loving screamers of engines. I do agree with everything you say there though. The bikes really show their value in being forgivable, flickable, and just fun to toss around. They're not going to wow you with power or brakes or anything like that, they're just easy to ride and fun as a result.
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Z3n posted:You need to ride a 4 cylinder 250. That's what you're looking for. Or one of the 400s, but really a 4 cylinder 250 is what you want. 20k redline, little loving screamers of engines. I do agree with everything you say there though. The bikes really show their value in being forgivable, flickable, and just fun to toss around. They're not going to wow you with power or brakes or anything like that, they're just easy to ride and fun as a result. I didn't think we did, but were there any ever imported to the states? (by the manufacturer I mean)
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Z3n posted:You need to ride a 4 cylinder 250. That's what you're looking for. Or one of the 400s, but really a 4 cylinder 250 is what you want. 20k redline, little loving screamers of engines. I do agree with everything you say there though. The bikes really show their value in being forgivable, flickable, and just fun to toss around. They're not going to wow you with power or brakes or anything like that, they're just easy to ride and fun as a result. I love small displacement, multiple cylinder motors, like old European racing V8s under 3 liters, so I'd probably adore a 4 cylinder 250. It's not exactly the same thing but ever since I got rid of my CL350 I've wanted a CB 350 Four. Were the older gen ninja 250's any different aside from bodywork? I though the drivetrain was mostly the same.
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Chill_Bebop posted:I love small displacement, multiple cylinder motors, like old European racing V8s under 3 liters, so I'd probably adore a 4 cylinder 250. It's not exactly the same thing but ever since I got rid of my CL350 I've wanted a CB 350 Four. The engines in the older models are more fuel-efficient and make more horsepower (at the expense of midrange), and they have a temperature gauge instead of a fuel gauge, among other things. They also don't really have any emissions control gear other than a fuel vapor recovery system on the california bikes. The older ones also have a two-in-two exhaust which might (or might not) sound better than the new one's two-in-one.
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I will say that my 2004 sounds much louder than the few new models I've heard. I haven't ridden a new one to properly compare, but the few I've heard up close really did sound like sewing machines compared to mine.
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Chill_Bebop posted:I love small displacement, multiple cylinder motors, like old European racing V8s under 3 liters, so I'd probably adore a 4 cylinder 250. It's not exactly the same thing but ever since I got rid of my CL350 I've wanted a CB 350 Four. I had a chance to ride an old (75?) CB400 I4 recently and it was loving awesome. Highly recommended. I haven't had a chance to ride one of the new ninjas, it's possible the top end is a little more neutered than it should be. We never got the 250cc I4s. Probably because they cost only slightly less than a 600 when they came out.
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A light, fuel efficient, fairly safe, and not too loud motorcycle.. What a piece of poo poo! Seriously though, how boring can riding a motorcycle be? You're on a goddamn motorcycle!! Reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOtEQB-9tvk
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