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HBK vs Undertaker was the best, with HBK vs Angle second. The Angle match might have been number 1 if HBK didn't spend 12 hours in the ankle lock before finally submitting Never seen HBK/Jericho, I should track it down sometime
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HBK/Taker is first and then the match with Angle. I would put the ladder match with Razor next for being such a historical match.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:How many of those matches were the best of the show? Almost all of them. Or if they weren't the best, they were really, really good and you could still have arguments about whether or not they were best.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Almost all of them. Or if they weren't the best, they were really, really good and you could still have arguments about whether or not they were best. So it sounds like he may be Mr. WrestleMania, then.
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Dec 4, 2009 19:47
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Rusty Shackelford posted:So it sounds like he may be Mr. WrestleMania, then. Right, he's not the best because he wins, he's the best because HE'LL TAKE YOU TO THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN, JOHN CENA.
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Dec 4, 2009 19:49
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2 questions: First, when does a clothesline become a lariat, and second, was Shane Douglas ever really considered a good wrestler?
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:2 questions: First, when does a clothesline become a lariat? This is the sort of distinction that only a real wrestling basement grognard is usually going to make. The difference is, in a lariat, you bend your arm forward at the elbow when you hit. In a clothesline, you don't. "Lariat" also sounds cooler than "Clothesline." Those are literally the only two differences. It's a clothesline.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:2 questions: First, when does a clothesline become a lariat, and second, was Shane Douglas ever really considered a good wrestler?  LARIATOOOOO! Can't answer your second, as that time in ECW was when I was totally into WWF 100%!
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:2 questions: First, when does a clothesline become a lariat, and second, was Shane Douglas ever really considered a good wrestler? Back in the day, the difference was how you held your arm. A lariat, or a lasso is flexible, and loose. It bends. A clothesline, on the other hand, is straight, and if you run into it, it's tight. It's interchangable, nowadays.
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Dec 4, 2009 21:34
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I just assume that America calls it a "clothesline", while Japan calls it a "LAAARIATOOO~~". The same reason why America calls it a "Vertical Suplex", Japan calls it a "Brainbuster."
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Dec 4, 2009 21:41
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:2 questions: First, when does a clothesline become a lariat, and second, was Shane Douglas ever really considered a good wrestler? In his first WWF run and his WCW run where he teamed with Ricky Steamboat, a lot of people saw Shane as one of the young guys who would someday be on top. He definitely had a lot of potential and his matches with Steamboat definitely protected him. I don't know if he was "good" but he definitely had potential.
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Dec 4, 2009 21:43
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:2 questions: First, when does a clothesline become a lariat Pretty much what everyone's been saying. A lariat is bendable and usually consists of the guy actually throwing his arm around his opponent as he does it. Clothesline is just running straight at a dude with a straight arm. JBL's Clothesline From Hell is actually a lariat, and a drat good one at that.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:2 questions: First, when does a clothesline become a lariat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Iyul69NjbA
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CM Junk posted:JBL's Clothesline From Hell is actually a lariat, and a drat good one at that. I was gonna mention the same thing with JBL - every time he does that lariat, it looks like a dude's head is gonna come off. loving love that move, if you look close you can see when someone does a "lariat", their forearm almost wraps around the opponent's neck (not so much the case with a regular clothesline).
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Something that also makes it a lariat is if you do a gay little flip thing in the ropes beforehand, Nigel.
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Going back to HBK at WM, for me it is a tie between 25 and 19. 25 for obvious reasons, and I thought the feud and especially the prematch promo video at 19 was one of the best ever, competing with 2008's.... Jericho vs Michaels?!?! It is like the two feuds are connected somehow...
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You have the WMXXIV match to thank for the HBK/Jericho feud last year 
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projecthalaxy posted:Going back to HBK at WM, for me it is a tie between 25 and 19. 25 for obvious reasons, and I thought the feud and especially the prematch promo video at 19 was one of the best ever, competing with 2008's.... Jericho vs Michaels?!?! It is like the two feuds are connected somehow... Screw that, WM21's promo was the best build promo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHfnVt3hS2g "...I won a gold medal...! And people are talking to me about some guy named Shawn Michaels gliding down from the rafters and putting on a wrestling clinic that year..." Matlock fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Dec 5, 2009 |
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Matlock posted:Screw that, WM21's promo was the best build promo. Ahem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMqcA3wiKG0
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Respectfully disagree. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9m2zNdxm44
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This question comes in the form of a picture Click here for the full 1246x349 image. So?
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The A-Team Van posted:This question comes in the form of a picture Tripleh is the strongest one there is
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Matlock posted:Tripleh is the strongest one there is Obviously Boby Lashley.
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But BATISTA has the biggest picture
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The A-Team Van posted:But BATISTA has the biggest picture I think he may be trying to skew the voting....
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The A-Team Van posted:But BATISTA has the biggest picture John Cena lifted up the World's Strongest Man and FUed him a while ago, ergo Cena became the World's Strongest Man while Henry can only claim to be the world's soggiest man now.
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Serious question: So Lashley was just in really good shape, Batista is a bodybuilder, and Lé Trip is a cripple. Is Cena anywhere near as strong as Mark Henry?
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Pneub posted:Is Cena anywhere near as strong as Mark Henry? Cena's pretty strong, for a guy 150 pounds less than Mark Henry.
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Chilly McFreeze posted:Cena's pretty strong, for a guy 150 pounds less than Mark Henry. Oh with out a doubt. That's why I don't have any problem at all with the FU. The fucker overshoots Hogan's inflating Silverdome number with an overhead throw on at least a yearly basis.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:was Shane Douglas ever really considered a good wrestler? In his eyes he is the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be. Right now he is just considered an okay Target manager. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Dec 5, 2009 |
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Shawn Michaels is Mr. Wrestlemania because so many of those matches are rewatchable epic classics, while many Undertaker WM matches were Undertaker vs Big Jobber.
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AsInHowe posted:Shawn Michaels is Mr. Wrestlemania because so many of those matches are rewatchable epic classics, while many Undertaker WM matches were Undertaker vs Big Jobber. Oh would you stop. Quit trying to manipulate the the numbers in HBK's favor. He has a Wrestlemania losing record 15 years wide.
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Both Michaels and Taker have a wealth of great WM matches to their names. In Taker's case, most have been in the latter years of his career: X-8: Awesome XIX: OK whatever, he was supposed to tag with Nathan Jones XX: He came back as the Deadman with Paul Bearer. You can't hate that. 21: Awesome 22: Carried Mark Henry to a good casket match 23: Awesome XXIV: loving awesome 25: Holy loving poo poo He had some bad ones, sure, but who cares?
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Writer Cath posted:Ahem. It's like they had wigs for everybody and JBL threatened to rape the costume department if they even tried to get one on him. And I assume Benoit just looked at them like this: 
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Pneub posted:Is Cena anywhere near as strong as Mark Henry?
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I've seen a couple pictures now of Umaga hanging out with Edge and Shane Helms and Matt Hardy. I guess Edge and Matt are okay with each other now?
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I was watching tapes of ECW around the time Shane Douglas made waves and IMO he was NOT a "good wrestler". I viewed him much as I would a guy like ... maybe how HHH circa-2009 would look to a new WWE viewer. There were stories (mostly ECW promos) about him being one of the greats, but for all I could see he was slower in the ring and worse on the mic (NWA belt promo arguably excepted) than the other guys in the company. He might have been hot poo poo earlier than that, but AFAIK who the gently caress was watching him? TL posted:I've seen a couple pictures now of Umaga hanging out with Edge and Shane Helms and Matt Hardy. I guess Edge and Matt are okay with each other now? Pretty sure they buried the hatchet once Edge threw Lita to the curb.
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petewhitley posted:I was watching tapes of ECW around the time Shane Douglas made waves and IMO he was NOT a "good wrestler". I viewed him much as I would a guy like ... maybe how HHH circa-2009 would look to a new WWE viewer. There were stories (mostly ECW promos) about him being one of the greats, but for all I could see he was slower in the ring and worse on the mic (NWA belt promo arguably excepted) than the other guys in the company. 10 PRINT "MY rear end!" 20 PRINT "gently caress DICK FLAIR" 30 IF MATCH THEN BELLY-TO-BELLY_SUPLEX 40 GOTO 10 Pretty much all he did, with ok promos, but at the time and with Paul E. it was something different. quote:Pretty sure they buried the hatchet once Edge threw Lita to the curb. I wouldn't say that, but Edge is a bigger star, his coworker, and has the same group of friends, so what the gently caress is Matt really gonna do? He already got fired once.
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WeaselWeaz posted:I wouldn't say that, but Edge is a bigger star, his coworker, and has the same group of friends, so what the gently caress is Matt really gonna do? He already got fired once. Not only that, but unless you're a big gay baby, you get over stuff like that. They don't have to be friends, but they can work together.
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Free Market Gravy posted:but unless you're a big gay baby
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