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Toasticle
Jul 18, 2003

Hay guys, out this Rape
No more from my rightwing boss.

Last tuesday he asked me, as a "diehard Obama supporter" if I was dissapointed with him yet. I said somewhat but probably not for the reasons you think I should be and started to explain why I think for example the current HC bill was looking like poo poo but he cut me off.

Wednesday morning I got fired.

Merry Christmas!

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sheri
Dec 30, 2002

Toasticle posted:

No more from my rightwing boss.

Last tuesday he asked me, as a "diehard Obama supporter" if I was dissapointed with him yet. I said somewhat but probably not for the reasons you think I should be and started to explain why I think for example the current HC bill was looking like poo poo but he cut me off.

Wednesday morning I got fired.

Merry Christmas!


Are you serious? Do you think it was directly related to your conversation with him, or are there other factors? Holy crap that sucks.

Toasticle
Jul 18, 2003

Hay guys, out this Rape
He is a hardcore birther who is stocking up on shotgun ammo for the upcoming race/class war led by the "socialist commie friend of the family" who is illegally in the whitehouse. Plus his 81 year old bladder has been failing him, had some growth removed and its been 6 months of bleeding and incontinance so he's been extra cranky. Also keep in mind I am his only employee so the business is gone along with the 75-100k a year he was getting for doing nothing but sitting at home staring at the millions in his various accounts and buying gold coins while Rush blared in the background.

Talking to the one son he has not yet written off (but still cut out of his will) since said son will now have to keep in touch in case he does die off, he told me about when he was 14 and special ordered a custom 10-speed with the almost 1000 he saved for years only to find his father had drained his bank account of money to help start his new business. The other son he refuses to speak to for the crimes of driving his jaguar without permission (He was not insured!) and wearing his alligator skin belt without permission. I hope there was more but he stopped talking about it because the subject was making him angry.

So yeah I'm pretty sure it was related.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

quote:

Please see image of Barrack and Michelle Obama, who seem to be saluting backwards. You will note that pin on lapel, wedding rings, and buttons on his jacket all appear in line with the picture not being photoshopped.

As you can probably guess it is photoshopped.

Why do conservatives not get yet that if he was a stealth socialist kenyan muslim he would have been busted a year ago with all these "signs"?

Cognac McCarthy
Oct 5, 2008

It's a man's game, but boys will play

jackpot posted:

Those 200,000 civilians were but a drop in the bucket compared to the number that would have died without the bombs - and I for one am still humbly waiting for a simple "thank you."
Assuming you're not kidding, your post is extraordinarily misleading. It's wrong to assume that the Japanese wouldn't have surrendered when there were attempts to bring it about already before the bombs were dropped. Also, the conventional bombing campaign already underway was extraordinarily effective, killing over a hundred thousand civilians in one night in one case. Check out this book for a good detailed discussion on it:
http://www.amazon.com/History-Wars-Enola-Battles-American/dp/080504387X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260230405&sr=8-1

But to say they should thank us is pretty disgusting. War sucks, nobody should thank anyone else for nuking their cities, sorry brah. :911:

Maarak
May 23, 2007

"Go for it!"

Toasticle posted:

No more from my rightwing boss.

Last tuesday he asked me, as a "diehard Obama supporter" if I was dissapointed with him yet. I said somewhat but probably not for the reasons you think I should be and started to explain why I think for example the current HC bill was looking like poo poo but he cut me off.

Wednesday morning I got fired.

Merry Christmas!

A totally legal firing as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

http://www.slate.com/id/2067578/

Cognac McCarthy
Oct 5, 2008

It's a man's game, but boys will play

It's trickier than that, though, because when the Supreme Court has addressed what a Protected class of citizen is, specifically with regards to political views, it's been in reference to what's been perceived as a dangerous political view, or one that directly threatens the government or national security. I'm sure there would be a strong case that having conventional political views is hardly justification for being fired.

Of course, he'd have a hell of a time proving that's why he was fired, so it's not like a court case is ever going to happen.

Toasticle
Jul 18, 2003

Hay guys, out this Rape
I live in a "right to work" state so I don't think any of that matters.

sheri
Dec 30, 2002

Toasticle posted:

I live in a "right to work" state so I don't think any of that matters.

Well, if it was a protected class, it would matter. Being in a right to work state doesn't mean you can be fired for being pregnant, or black, or any other such characteristic of a protected class.

Cognac McCarthy
Oct 5, 2008

It's a man's game, but boys will play

sheri posted:

Well, if it was a protected class, it would matter. Being in a right to work state doesn't mean you can be fired for being pregnant, or black, or any other such characteristic of a protected class.
I think he means that he's in a state where political views are a protected class, so the story about the radical leftist fired for his job doesn't apply to him. Which would likely be the case anyway, since your views are not of a stated opposition to your job or the US itself.

Toasticle
Jul 18, 2003

Hay guys, out this Rape
Sorry I'm a retard, meant at-will not right to work state. When you can be fired for no cause it's that much harder trying to prove you were fired for the wrong cause.

Plus to be honest I'm half relieved. There is a limit for listening to daily venom filled rants like that before it really does start to affect you.

chesh
Apr 19, 2004

That was terrible.

Toasticle posted:

Sorry I'm a retard, meant at-will not right to work state. When you can be fired for no cause it's that much harder trying to prove you were fired for the wrong cause.

Plus to be honest I'm half relieved. There is a limit for listening to daily venom filled rants like that before it really does start to affect you.

Yeah, but wasn't that limit "pay check?" I don't think he can fire you for your political belief's alone.

jackpot
Aug 31, 2004

First cousin to the Black Rabbit himself. Such was Woundwort's monument...and perhaps it would not have displeased him.<

Davish Krail posted:

Assuming you're not kidding,
Let me stop you right there.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

Toasticle posted:

He is a hardcore birther who is stocking up on shotgun ammo for the upcoming race/class war led by the "socialist commie friend of the family" who is illegally in the whitehouse.

Why did you not record everything and get paid? If my direct started saying stuff like that, I would be unfireable as long as he was around.

Cognac McCarthy
Oct 5, 2008

It's a man's game, but boys will play

jackpot posted:

Let me stop you right there.
Okay, well, thank you for reassuring me then. Although I do know people who basically say that and it's, well, depressing is the only word I can think of to describe it.

Toasticle
Jul 18, 2003

Hay guys, out this Rape

LorneReams posted:

Why did you not record everything and get paid? If my direct started saying stuff like that, I would be unfireable as long as he was around.

Who would I play it to? He's the owner.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

Toasticle posted:

Who would I play it to? He's the owner.

You play it to him and imply you are too nice a guy to file a wrongful termination suit.

Tesla Insanely Coil
Jul 23, 2006

Ask me why I'm not squatting.
If this has been posted before, it's been a while.



HIGH SCHOOL --1959 vs. 2009

quote:

Scenario 1:
Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.
1959 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2009 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario 2:
Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.
1959 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2009 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both
Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.


Scenario 3:
Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.
1959 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2009 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD.. The school gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario 4:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.

1959 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.
2009 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to
foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.


Scenario 5:
Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1959 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock..
2009 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations.. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario 6:
Pedro fails high school English.
1959 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.
2009 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum.. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario 7:
Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed..
1959 - Ants die.
2009 -ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents --and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario 8:
Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1959 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005
Because beating the poo poo out of your kids with a belt should be a protected right, drat it.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
Ah the 1950s - completely idyllic "Leave It to Beaver" land where nothing bad ever happened!

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xwYBBpHg1I

1959 Bel Air vs 2009 Malibu. The 2009 car kicks the 59's rear end.

Not surprisingly the comments section is made up of the folks who wrote that e-mail. They just can't believe that the 'classic' cars of their youth may have actually sucked in a lot of ways.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Funny how a lot of those 1959 sceanarios break down when you stop assuming the kid is white. Probably just a coincedence.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Funny how a lot of those 1959 sceanarios break down when you stop assuming the kid is white. Probably just a coincedence.
http://www.cjimagazine.com/content/view/222/530/

quote:

The deadliest school massacre in American history took place in Bath, Michigan. Andrew Kehoe, a school board member who was upset about a property tax levied to build the school, used explosives to kill himself and 45 people, most of them children in the second through sixth grades. The year was 1927.

In Houston, Texas—1959—Paul Orgeron, approached a teacher at Poe Elementary School and detonated a suitcase bomb, killing six people, including himself and his own son. Just seven years later in Austin, Texas—August 1, 1966—Charles Whitman, a mentally unstable ex-marine, murdered his mother and his wife, then climbed University of Texas at Austin’s 27-floor tower with an arsenal of weapons and barricaded himself in the observation deck. He shot and killed 15 people on the campus below, wounding 31 before police stormed the observation deck and shot him numerous times.

Kids these days just don't got any appreciation for how to massacre schoolkids like they used to.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Armyman25 posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xwYBBpHg1I

1959 Bel Air vs 2009 Malibu. The 2009 car kicks the 59's rear end.

Not surprisingly the comments section is made up of the folks who wrote that e-mail. They just can't believe that the 'classic' cars of their youth may have actually sucked in a lot of ways.

I also love the WELL BACK THEN PEOPLE WERE CAREFUL DRIVERS SO WE DIDNT NEED THEM!

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Funny how a lot of those 1959 sceanarios break down when you stop assuming the kid is white. Probably just a coincedence.

I think my favorite is the one about how 2 kids fight and become best friends what kind of Hollywood bullshit is that?

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Tesla Insanely Coil posted:

If this has been posted before, it's been a while.



HIGH SCHOOL --1959 vs. 2009

The best part about this? The people that read this and nod in agreement are the ones that are making the phone calls and lawsuits.

Vilerat
May 11, 2002

quote:

Is there something wrong with our system?


You have two families: "John Legal" and "Juan Illegal". Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California .

John Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Juan Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

Ready? Now pay attention...

John Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $ 1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; John Legal now has
$31,231.00.

Juan Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Juan Illegal pays no taxes. Juan Illegal now has $31,200.00.

John Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. John Legal now has $24,031.00.

Juan Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Juan Illegal still has $31,200.00.

John Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. John Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. John Legal now has $18,031.00.

Juan Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Juan Illegal still has $31,200.00.

John Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. John Legal now has $9,631.00.

Juan Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Juan Illegal uses the $500.00 per month for rent, or $6,000.00 per year. Juan Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.

John Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. John Legal now has $7,231.00.

Juan Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and! still has $31,200.00.

John Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.

Juan Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities,
gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.

John Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Juan Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

John Legal's and Juan Illegal's children both attend the same school. John Legal pays for his children's lunches while Juan Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Juan Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. John Legal's children go home.

John Legal and Juan Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but John paid for them and Juan did not pay.

Do you get it, now?

If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens...

You are part of the problem!

It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!



Reminder: Don't forget to pay your taxes...20 million Illegal Aliens are depending on you.

:argh:

jackpot
Aug 31, 2004

First cousin to the Black Rabbit himself. Such was Woundwort's monument...and perhaps it would not have displeased him.<

Vilerat posted:

John Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Juan Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".
:lol::lol:
What they don't specify and hope you don't notice is that John is paid per hour, Juan is paid per week.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre
It's always Juan's fault, not the company that is paying him of course! This poo poo is all in a vacuum dontcha know!

jackpot
Aug 31, 2004

First cousin to the Black Rabbit himself. Such was Woundwort's monument...and perhaps it would not have displeased him.<
This is starting to pop up in places, might as well try and nip it in the bud if any of you folks know about it. I can't find anything about it on google except for a few thousand SAVE R TROOPS posts, and common sense tells me that if this many assholes support these guys they're probably guilty as hell of something really terrible.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=202645581802&ref=nf

quote:

I stand for Freedom and Democracy! Asking our soldiers to lay down their lives to defend our freedoms, capture and bring terrorist to justice. Yet now there are calls to prosecute them after doing so, which not only underlies their better judgment, but jeopardizes the National Security of our Country, its interests and abilities to conduct successful missions abroad. Prosecuting our soldiers in cases like this is UNPATRIOTIC! Make your voice be heard, invite others, join this group to show your support for those in the armed services! Thanks and God Bless.

Political views should not matter, Liberal, Conservative,Democrat, Republican, this is about the protection of the United States of America...we are all directly affected one way or the other. I have seen a lot of "Obama" blame, while I agree I wish he would do more & voice outrage...he does not hold the actual power to stop the entire Navy Affairs & Prosecution process set in place. We need to remember the real issue here; Terrorist know all too well that we are a society hell bent on sensational media stories & hypersensitivity to political correctness...we have laws in place that in fact grant these Terrorist additional tools and resources...they are using this exposure against us, and our soldiers suffer for it...at the same time this completely alters a soldiers judgment while in combat: when they hear about prosecutions like this they hesitate in situations. Our very government trains soldiers to fight a hostile threats with deadly force. We are seeing increased numbers of soldiers who hesitate this training/reaction in fear of actions like this. When our laws are being used against us by the very terrorist we capture...it becomes a problem...there are many great impacts this case has. This case does not warrant reasonable evidence to support the prosecution of these SEALs, and it should not have even been an issue. If the prisoner was in fact beaten (which he only claims to have been punched twice) he would have more noticeable inflictions/signs of abuse (ie bloodied eyes, bruises, fractures etc). More than likely this Terrorist didn't go lightly when the SEALs went to extract him...and chances are he was hit (which doesn't violate any law) but he is now using our legal processes against us. How far are we going to go...there is a fine line...and I believe this case is absolutely WRONG!

:phoneline::phoneline:

Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges.

Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber," told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.

Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official statement, and assault.

Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction of performance of duty and making a false official statement.

Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an additional charge of impediment of an investigation.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

I think it's the false statements that are the reason those guys are getting in so much trouble, not the actual roughing up of a detainee. They lied to get out of a little bit of trouble and now find themselves in a lot more. I can't find the original news story though so I'm going off of memory. Isn't that from right before thanksgiving?

Edit: From Foxnews http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576646,00.html Those guys are in trouble because they tried to lie about it. Also, looks like they rejected an offer of nonjudicial punishment which caps the potential penalties pretty drat low.

HashtagGirlboss fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Dec 9, 2009

Vilerat
May 11, 2002

jackpot posted:

:lol::lol:
What they don't specify and hope you don't notice is that John is paid per hour, Juan is paid per week.

And don't let Illegal immigrants not being eligible for welfare get in the way of a good hateful email.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Vilerat posted:

And don't let Illegal immigrants not being eligible for welfare get in the way of a good hateful email.

Yeah, it's pretty amazing how the illegal immigrants with no SSN or the like are able to get free dental, healthcare, and so many other services. Their kids will probably get stuff, but not them.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

Taerkar posted:

Yeah, it's pretty amazing how the illegal immigrants with no SSN or the like are able to get free dental, healthcare, and so many other services. Their kids will probably get stuff, but not them.

My finacee grew up in the south west and she tells me it's common knowledge. Literally everyone believes this. I'm sure it's true to a point (if you are bleeding out I'm sure the ER will not turn you away), but I don't think they are getting a real good social deal here.

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out
Whoa, I dunno about you guys but being an illegal sounds pretty sweet.

CT2049
Jul 24, 2007

crime fighting hog posted:

Whoa, I dunno about you guys but being an illegal sounds pretty sweet.

My dad's huge on Lou Dobbs and brings up all these points. I told him if it's all true why doesn't he just renounce his citizenship and stay here illegally, since it seems like illegals get it way better than citizens.

Then he told me to stop being such a jackass.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Juan Illegal - Can be forced to do any dangerous, demeaning, or otherwise lovely job that the construction industry wants. With zero recourse of his own for injuries or exposure to hazardous materials. Routinely underpaid and threatened with deportation if he complains.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

CT2049 posted:

My dad's huge on Lou Dobbs and brings up all these points. I told him if it's all true why doesn't he just renounce his citizenship and stay here illegally, since it seems like illegals get it way better than citizens.

Then he told me to stop being such a jackass.

Hahaha that's actually a pretty good comeback.

Hobnob
Feb 23, 2006

Ursa Adorandum

crime fighting hog posted:

Whoa, I dunno about you guys but being an illegal sounds pretty sweet.
Yeah, I don't know why John Legal doesn't just drop his health insurance, since he can get all that free full medical and dental work done by clinics.

dphrag
May 20, 2006
Ooga Booga Goo
Or for that matter, just work under the table.

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Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

We'll all live like kings! Illegal, under the table kings!

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