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reality_groove posted:We need to make a list of things wrestlers claim to have innovated.It would be a very long list. A lot of it would be Hogan. Hulk Hogan invented wrestling 
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List of some stuff I can think of wrestlers inventing or popularizing: Ray Stevens - The over the ropes flip bump used by Flair and Slaughter, similar to Mr. Perfect and HBK's. Harley Race - Falling headbutt (not from the ropes) Dynamite Kid - Diving headbutt (from the ropes) Superstar Billy Graham - First big steroid user Riki Chosu - Scorpion Deathlock apsouthern posted:In Bret Hart's autobiography (thanks Cletus42o) Bret claims he invented hitting the turnbuckle chest first (something I always associated with Chris Benoit personally, not having watched many Hart matches). This may be true. It's difficult to say that anyone invented anything, but Bret was the first I remember doing that. However, you could also say that King Kong Bundy did it too, although he used it as an offensive move. Writer Cath posted:Hulk Hogan invented wrestling Hogan invented working the crowd, promos, Vince McMahon training.
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Two that stand out for me are the Flair Flop and 'Playing Ricky Morton', as the Rock 'n Roll Express basically wrote the book on how tag matches go in North America.
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Was HBK the first to take turnbuckle bumps by flipping up them and then back down? How about skinning the cat?
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Fairly sure Flair did that bump before HBK and I'm pretty sure skinning the cat was done by other wrestlers prior to Michaels. Steamboat is the first that immediately springs to mind.
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When you guys talk about the Bret Hart turnbuckle bump, do you mean when he goes for the bulldog, and his opponent reverses it by throwing him sternum first into the corner? I would find it hard to believe that no one did that until Bret started wrestling.
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Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:When you guys talk about the Bret Hart turnbuckle bump, do you mean when he goes for the bulldog, and his opponent reverses it by throwing him sternum first into the corner? I would find it hard to believe that no one did that until Bret started wrestling. No, I distinctly remember matches where he would be Irish Whipped into the turnbuckle, and instead of of turning and "landing" on his back, he just runs full speed into the turnbuckle, sternum first.
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Perdido posted:Fairly sure Flair did that bump before HBK and I'm pretty sure skinning the cat was done by other wrestlers prior to Michaels. Steamboat is the first that immediately springs to mind. Flair's was always over the corner and onto the apron (until he started loving it up with age and just sort of flopping wherever). HBK's, which he may or may not have invented, involved the flip back down to land on his feet and get clotheslined/big booted/sprayed with red mist. Justin Credible did the same but put his own spin on it in that he made you not give a poo poo.
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Perdido posted:Fairly sure Flair did that bump before HBK and I'm pretty sure skinning the cat was done by other wrestlers prior to Michaels. Steamboat is the first that immediately springs to mind. Pretty sure Don Leo Jonathan used to skin the cat on occasion. Also, didn't Jake invent the DDT?
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Undertaker going Old School
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Hockles posted:No, I distinctly remember matches where he would be Irish Whipped into the turnbuckle, and instead of of turning and "landing" on his back, he just runs full speed into the turnbuckle, sternum first. Yeah, that's what I meant when I asked the question originally. It just seemed unlikely that something so basic would be unknown before Hart, but I suppose it's possible. The only thing I can add to this conversation is that the Hurracanrana was created by a 43 year old wrestler called Daniel Garcia while he was playing a luchador called Huracán Ramírez in a series of Mexican films... (at least according to Wikipedia)
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The A-Team Van posted:Undertaker going Old School Was invented by Don Jardine, the guy who trained Undertaker. :colbertx2:
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FoodStampBrown posted:Pretty sure Don Leo Jonathan used to skin the cat on occasion. Also, didn't Jake invent the DDT? I didn't say Steamboat invented it, just that I recalled him doing it, is all. 
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We have Cena's 5 knuckle shuffle. Before that was THE WORM (also, people's elbow). Hogan used to pose before hitting the big leg sometimes (didn't he?) Who was the earliest person people remember doing silly dances before moves while their opponents had to lay there not doing anything?
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Captain Strange posted:Hogan used to pose before hitting the big leg sometimes (didn't he?) Yeah but Hogan posed before like all of his moves so I don't know if this counts.
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Captain Strange posted:Who was the earliest person people remember doing silly dances before moves while their opponents had to lay there not doing anything? Do top rope moves count?
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FoodStampBrown posted:Pretty sure Don Leo Jonathan used to skin the cat on occasion. Also, didn't Jake invent the DDT? The DDT had been used a few years before Jake got started in the business.
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MassRayPer posted:The DDT had been used a few years before Jake got started in the business. Indeed, but in my opinion Jake the Snake sure as hell perfected it.
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Jake the Snake invented covering a guy in snakes after he beat them. (I think.)
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Jake the Sanem invented the donkey punch
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Rockfish posted:Jake the Sanem invented the donkey punch I thought that was Mongo McMichael when he starred in Blazing Saddles?
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That was Alex Karras punching a horse. I refuse to accept that joke
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CM Junk posted:That was Alex Karras punching a horse. I refuse to accept that joke I apologise, I had no idea that he was actually a pro-wrestler at one point. I guess you learn something new everyday...
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Oh and contrary to popular belief, Jake did NOT invent the dirty sanchez, though he was among the first to use it as a finisher, and his execution was admirable
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Didn't Toots Mondt invent most of the basic wrestling moves we see today? I know he basically wrote the manual for how to run a modern wrestling promotion.
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Did Rugged Ronny Garvin invent the police-outline stomping every inch of your unconcious opponent as he lay helpless? nobody else ever did that, right?
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Supreme Allah posted:Did Rugged Ronny Garvin invent the police-outline stomping every inch of your unconcious opponent as he lay helpless? nobody else ever did that, right? I think I remember the announcers saying Randy Orton got that from his Dad. Not sure if that's true or not, I've seen maybe four Bob Orton, Jr. matches in my life. Speaking of, is there a longer ring name than Ace Cowboy Bob Orton, Jr.?
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TL posted:I think I remember the announcers saying Randy Orton got that from his Dad. Not sure if that's true or not, I've seen maybe four Bob Orton, Jr. matches in my life. JR used to call it the "Garvin Stomp" but after awhile called it the "Orton Stomp". I don't remember anyone else ever doing it, but most of my memories of Garvin are from his feud with Greg The Hammer Valentine (which I thought was awesome).
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Jerusalem posted:JR used to call it the "Garvin Stomp" but after awhile called it the "Orton Stomp". I don't remember anyone else ever doing it, but most of my memories of Garvin are from his feud with Greg The Hammer Valentine (which I thought was awesome). Garvin even pulled out a Sharpshooter to win their Submission Match at the Royal Rumble. I loved that feud, too; for some reason I just thought Garvin's constant insults as guest ring announcer were hilarious.
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CombineThresher posted:Didn't Toots Mondt invent most of the basic wrestling moves we see today? I know he basically wrote the manual for how to run a modern wrestling promotion. He was part of The Gold Dust Trio, who began the modern form of pro wrestling and promotion that exists today. Before that, the style was more based on straight-forward grappling. However, the Gold Dust Trio did not invent working.
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Who is the Dirt Bike Kid? I heard his name being used in a list with people like Mass Transit and Mike Levy as examples of the business getting too real. Unsurprisingly, wikipedia has failed me.
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Jason Sextro posted:Garvin even pulled out a Sharpshooter to win their Submission Match at the Royal Rumble. I loved that feud, too; for some reason I just thought Garvin's constant insults as guest ring announcer were hilarious. THE HAMMER JAMMER
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projecthalaxy posted:Who is the Dirt Bike Kid? I heard his name being used in a list with people like Mass Transit and Mike Levy as examples of the business getting too real. Unsurprisingly, wikipedia has failed me. Jason Harrison. He worked a bit with ECW back in the '90s.
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projecthalaxy posted:Who is the Dirt Bike Kid? I heard his name being used in a list with people like Mass Transit and Mike Levy as examples of the business getting too real. Unsurprisingly, wikipedia has failed me. quote:On 8/9/99 Michinoku Pro’s Masked Tournament 99 took place and a first round match saw Great Sasuke take on Dirt Bike Kid http://wrestlinggonewrong.com/video/sauske_shoots_on_dbk.html Dont gently caress with The Great Sasuke.
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projecthalaxy posted:Who is the Dirt Bike Kid? I heard his name being used in a list with people like Mass Transit and Mike Levy as examples of the business getting too real. Unsurprisingly, wikipedia has failed me. Well I guess you know about http://wrestlinggonewrong.com/video/sauske_shoots_on_dbk.html which was pretty much his only noteable moment in the history of wrestling. There was an interview, which i cannot find. Basically the story on that was Sasuke was organising a masked wrestler tournament. Invited mr Dirt bike kid, who never actually wore a mask. he kicked up a fuss on this instead of you know just wearing a loving mask and took it off after his entrance. Which defeated on the points of this tournament, as once you lost you unmasked. So Sasuke kicked the poo poo out of him for loving his tournament up by being too serious in his fake fighting.
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projecthalaxy posted:Who is the Dirt Bike Kid? I heard his name being used in a list with people like Mass Transit and Mike Levy as examples of the business getting too real. Unsurprisingly, wikipedia has failed me. He is an indy wrestler who was in a masked wrestler tournament. The promoters wanted him to wrestle in a dirtbike helmet, but he didn't want to, so he took it off before the match and wrestled in a much smaller Dave mask. His opponent (who may have also been the promoter, I can't remember), The Great Sasuke, didn't like it, and proceeded to beat the everloving poo poo out of DBK, and legitimately choked him out to end the match.
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Ah, I had forgotten that this industry is unprofessional and carny ridden for a second. How silly of me.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:His opponent (who may have also been the promoter, I can't remember), The Great Sasuke, didn't like it, and proceeded to beat the everloving poo poo out of DBK, and legitimately choked him out to end the match. Sasuke was the promoter, it was for his promotion Michinoku Pro in Japan.
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Who did Delirious wrestle that hilarious match in Japan with? Where they exchange silly looking elbows for ever and ever?
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