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squidgee posted:i've never really noticed that big of a hit between complex and complex pro, honestly. Pro sounds great though -- it gets rid of a lot of the smearing of transients and the occasional digital noise. My PC is pretty beefy, so I never gave it a second thought, but I'll try complex on my laptop, in case I need to save some juice.
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Having two problems... When I am recording in Ableton through my Shure SM58 I am hearing (quietly) the metronome in the background. Any way to get rid of this? Also, I'm having lag with my mic and the playback. I've adjusted the latency, I tried to load the Driver Error Compensation Live Set, but I'm getting a "failed to resolve link" error. Any ideas? Thanks guys!
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Sups posted:Having two problems... If you mute your headphones/monitors, does it still record the metronome? If it doesn't then you're just getting bleed. The best solution to this is to use in ear monitors (ie Shure SCL2 - SCL5) as they produce 0 bleed. There's also a *small* chance that if you use unbalanced microphone cables and your headphone/speaker cables run near your mic cable, you could theoretically get some interference. This is most likely not what is happening. quote:Also, I'm having lag with my mic and the playback. I've adjusted the latency, I tried to load the Driver Error Compensation Live Set, but I'm getting a "failed to resolve link" error. Lag in your monitoring or lag in the recording itself?
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RivensBitch posted:If you mute your headphones/monitors, does it still record the metronome? If it doesn't then you're just getting bleed. The best solution to this is to use in ear monitors (ie Shure SCL2 - SCL5) as they produce 0 bleed. Is there any way to reduce bleed? I test it and it seems you are correct. As far as lag, when I hit the drum/note my headphones produce the sound afterward, which makes it really weird to stay in time.
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Turn down the "Buffer Size" setting in the Audio tab of Preferences to about 128 to get rid of the lag. It will make your CPU work harder though. For the bleed, like RivensBitch said, get headphones that don't leak as much sound or just turn down the volume in your headphones when you're recording with a mic. Usually a little bleed isn't going to be noticeable in the full mix, but if it is, cheap headphones or blasting the volume are often to blame. In any case, cranking your headphones can hurt your hearing just like any other set of speakers.
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I'm doing sound design and teching for a drama production, and there's a scene with an earthquake. I want to make an instrument that I can play because the rumbles and the climax of the quake are dependent on the actors, so I would like to control the "intensity." Any ideas? I'll probably start with carving some pink noise low freq for the sub to rumble and change the volume through the scene, but how can I make it less "whirring" and more exciting/rumbling? I did this similarly with another scene in the production, where there was an angel appearance and I needed to create kind of ambience underneath it all, but it couldn't really have a set time limit because of subtle differences within the performance each time, so what i did for that was group together a few angelic sounding pads and played some notes that sounded holy enough and worked well together, made different lengths of loops so that each pad would be constantly changing in relation to the other loops.
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Maybe a resonator at a low frequency would help get that ground shaking effect. I'm not sure how you'd set it up though.
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Sometimes my grouped tracks don't produce any audio and I have to restart my session. The tracks within the group are routed to the group master and then that is routed out to the Master fader...but the meters on the group fader don't show any audio, yet the tracks within all show meters fine. What up?
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My dad has a ~$500/year "computer related items" bonus through his work (government job) that he's used in the past to help me buy a wacom tablet and my sister's university laptop. It's that time of year again so he's been shopping around looking for A) a new desktop PC for himself to replace his old one, or B) a Macbook that I can use to mobilize my MIDI guitar rig. He came home today after having been around to a few stores and presented me with an offer - he's willing to use that ~$500 to buy the following (I think it's refurbished?) Macbook for me: 13.3" Apple Macbook (not a Pro) Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 (2.0ghz) 2gb ram 120gb hard-drive OSX 10.4 2xUSB; 1xFirewire 400 Now, in my own little world I was going to wait until mid-January to see how much money I'll get from student loans and then sell a guitar or two to try and afford a ~$1300 Macbook Pro. What I want to know from you guys is whether or not the 2.0ghz Macbook in question will suffice for operating in a live situation with minimal latency a Firewire Audio Interface (MOTU most likely) into Live 7.0 to do the following with my Roland GK-3/Axon AX-50 guitar controller combo: A) Operate soft-synths such as NI Massive B) Trigger samples I've loaded into drum-rack or any other similar trigger-operated function. C) Flawlessly handle up to two simultaneous line inputs in a live situation which I'd like the potential to D) digitally process (albiet not heavily) and output to a PA. Should I just accept his offer and work within my means once I have it, or hold out a little bit and try to afford something on my own which will be only marginally better? I have a Mac Pro so by no means will I need to use the laptop for applications which require immense amounts of raw processing power, its only purpose is to be the central-hub of a mobile Ableton rig operating projects I'll have made on and transferred from my Mac Pro. How far could I push that laptop performance-wise on-the-fly? Also I'm thinking if I need something faster in the future I can make a decent amount of coin by re-selling it anyway, but what I really want is some informed opinion from you guys first. Thanks. 
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having only used ableton for 2 days on my macbook (2.4ghz core duo 2, 2gb ram) i'd say take the laptop man. take the laptop and run.
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I have that same spec'd out Macbook and have zero issues with Ableton and my external firewire soundcard. It'll handle live performances perfectly fine so definitely go for it since it's not worth the extra $$$ just to get a pro if this is your main concern.
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Might want to upgrade the ram but that's like $80, other than that it should be fine.
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K cool thanks guys, I'll tell him later today. 
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If you haven't seen this yet, brace yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI
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Yoozer posted:If you haven't seen this yet, brace yourself. 0_0 holy poo poo
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Yoozer posted:If you haven't seen this yet, brace yourself. Jesus. That's really impressive.
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Yoozer posted:If you haven't seen this yet, brace yourself. 0_o
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That guy is a god at ableton live. I wish i was that loving fast. This makes me want to pass out. That sample for the breakdown is the loving cut.
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That's a really humbling video ps: posting from the 15" macbook pro that my wife gave me for my birthday, cannot stress how important it is that you beg borrow and steal to get one yourself. RivensBitch fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Dec 18, 2009 |
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Yoozer posted:If you haven't seen this yet, brace yourself. I mean yes that was incredible, but the rage against the machine sample was what absolutely blew my mind, I just didn't loving see that coming and sounding so got drat cool.
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RivensBitch posted:That's a really humbling video I keep begging my rear end off for a new unibody macbook pro. I was always a pc guy but its just pure class for being onstage and I really want the glass touchpad. Any windows 7 support for the multitouch pad? Also my production partner I am opening a studio with uses logic and ableton rewired. We are planning on composition, editing in live 8, and mix down in logic. He has a nice intel mac with 4gb of ram and firewire. I thought about just grabbing that generation mac, but the new ones are sex. Rkelly fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Dec 18, 2009 |
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I'm running VMWARE with spaces, so I have win7 64bit running on one space with winxp running in another, and then Ableton running in leopard and it works pretty smooth. Touchpad works fine in all of them.
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RivensBitch posted:I'm running VMWARE with spaces, so I have win7 64bit running on one space with winxp running in another, and then Ableton running in leopard and it works pretty smooth. Touchpad works fine in all of them. poo poo, did you add more RAM or something? My macbook pro can't even handle a Windows XP Vmware and Snow Leopard OS by itself, let alone Live.
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I had Live 8 installed, then I bought a launchpad. When I go to MIDI Sync in Preferences in Live 8.0.1, the launchpad doesn't show up under the "control surface" drop-down menu. Only other devices (that I don't have) show up. The launchpad does show up in the input and output drop-downs though. The MIDI track in indicator flashes when I press buttons on the launchpad, but the launchpad doesn't light up (unless I run automap) Any ideas how I can use the launchpad with my existing install? I don't want to use the version it came with because I'd be limited to 8 tracks. Also, do I need to have automap running while using it with Live or is that just for other programs?
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Who Gotch Ya posted:I had Live 8 installed, then I bought a launchpad. You need to update Live: http://www.ableton.com/latest_versions And no you don't need automap.
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Cool, thanks. I'll update.
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dookie posted:poo poo, did you add more RAM or something? My macbook pro can't even handle a Windows XP Vmware and Snow Leopard OS by itself, let alone Live. It's actually stock with 4GB, but I'm running leopard, not snow leopard. Wont be upgrading for a while (even though the MBP came with the SL install disk), right now everything is super stable.
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Yeah, don't, Live 8 has been unstable as gently caress on Snow Leopard. I had to reinstall them both at the same time so I didn't think about possible issues between them but it's been really horrible, like crashing multiple times a session. I think 8.1 may have fixed some of those issues, but so far 8 has crashed as many times in one week as versions 5, 6, and 7 crashed total. It hasn't happened while playing in front of other people, which is good, but it's kind of scary nonetheless.
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Live 8 hasn't been too unstable for me at all on Snow Leopard. The only thing would be the grouped tracks sometimes not outputting any audio that I mentioned in a previous post...my guess now is that it's because of SL since I haven't heard of anyone else having the issue and I take it SL users are in the minority of Live PHRESH BEAT MAKERS. I'm glad I didn't know how unstable it was on SL, because I used it for a musical drama production last night to launch songs and ambience and sound fx. It worked well! Cirque De Soleil also uses Ableton for their shows, I'm curious to find out how
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k0konutz posted:Live 8 hasn't been too unstable for me at all on Snow Leopard. The only thing would be the grouped tracks sometimes not outputting any audio that I mentioned in a previous post...my guess now is that it's because of SL since I haven't heard of anyone else having the issue and I take it SL users are in the minority of Live PHRESH BEAT MAKERS. Google gavin whitley for a while. He uses a couple korg micro controls and 2 rain pc's and a tascam gigastudio lol. He is the only guy with the stems from all the beatles masters and he has that poo poo as clips in ableton. Those clips are worth the same as the royal crown jewels.
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Rkelly posted:Google gavin whitley for a while. He uses a couple korg micro controls and 2 rain pc's and a tascam gigastudio lol. He is the only guy with the stems from all the beatles masters and he has that poo poo as clips in ableton. Your search - "gavin whitley" korg - did not match any documents. Your search - "gavin whitley" ableton - did not match any documents.
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'gavin whitley cirque' will do it. This is a fairly informative video interview: http://www.culturecatch.com/videos/beatles.m4v
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chief touching you posted:Your search - "gavin whitley" korg - did not match any documents. The third link on google your quotes are loving you over smarty pants. http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Whiteley_Gavin_1099561399.aspx in case your just lazy Gavin Whiteley and Cirque du Soleil give the Beatles a reality-bending, spectacular treatment ... "After [Beatles producer] Sir George Martin signed on, it was decided that the show would exclusively use the recorded music of the Beatles from the tapes at Abbey Road," says Gavin Whiteley, the veteran keyboardist and sound technician who holds the position of Music Playback Engineer for LOVE."I was chosen because they knew that they would need someone who would have the knowledge and skill of a musician, but the experience of an audio engineer. "LOVE's musical directors are George Martin and [his son] Giles Martin," Gavin continues. ... The Martins continued working up until the show opened, transferring the files to Gavin as they were completed."I captured the tracks from Pro Tools running at 96kHz, 24 bits," he says. ... Gavin constructed his system so GigaStudio is triggered by Realtime Music Solutions Sinfonia, a Linux-based MIDI file playback program normally used for Broadway-type shows."It's a very fast system and it offers some very handy tools for manipulating the tempo of MIDI files and creating customized vamps and loops," he says."So we use that tool to play back standard MIDI files that I built in [Apple] Logic.I can navigate the show very easily in Sinfonia, using it to play back the samples coming out of GigaStudio." To control Sinfonia and trigger samples in GigaStudio, advance to another song, or otherwise cue sections of the show, Gavin uses MIDI controller keyboards; at the time of the interview, he employed an Edirol PCR-M50 as his primary MIDI controller, backed up by a Korg microKontrol, though he plans to upgrade to twin Korg Kontrol 49s.Among other features he likes, the Korgs "have faders, MIDI sliders that I use to control the volume of my 5.1 [surround system]. ... "I trigger sections of the music and whole songs," says Gavin, describing his nightly role in the production."Sometimes I cue off the stage manager, sometimes off the response of the audience.There are ambient mikes in the house that I use to listen for applause before I move on to certain sections of the show. "Ultimately, the acts are played out in the same order," says Gavin. ... "One of the key features that makes LOVE different from other Cirque shows is the consistent use of SMPTE time code," Gavin explains. ... With the show scheduled to run for at least ten years, Gavin and his team need a thoroughly reliable computer playback system â€" and insurance, in case something goes wrong."GigaStudio is great for streaming multiple tracks of audio, but it's a very demanding program, since it works on the kernel level of a PC," says Gavin of his workhorse application. ... "To put it in a greater context, today there are five Cirque shows in Las Vegas," says Gavin. ... "The only part of the show the music that was not recorded in the '60s is the strings section accompaniment to ‘While My Guitar Gently Weeps,'" says Gavin. ... "All the drum sounds are taken from the Abbey Road recordings," Gavin continues."Sometimes there are drum sounds from other songs that are laid on top. ‘Octupus' Garden' uses drum beats from ‘Lovely Rita,' for example." Gavin more than appreciates just how sweet his gig is. ... "I haven't actually seen the Mirage vault where they keep their money, but I've been told that the vault that stores the Rain computers and the audio files of the original Beatles multitrack tapes is actually more secure," says Gavin."The monetary value of those files, I've been told, is equal to the Royal Crown Jewels.We have the sole copy of the audio tracks of the Beatles recordings, which have never been heard on their own before.I've heard that there are people out there who would pay great sums of money for that." Why store such precious cargo?"What the audience hears in the show and on the album is a finished product, but to create that mix, some of the building blocks are soloed individual tracks right off the Beatles masters," explains Gavin. Here is some more sir. Gavin Whiteley (Las Vegas, NV) Gavin Whiteley is a sound engineer and music technology consultant, Music Playback Engineer for The Beatles LOVE, and resident Ableton Trainer for Cirque du Soleil in Las Vegas. He designs, configures and programs music systems with Ableton Live for such large-scale productions as Cirque du Soleil's Wintuk, CRISS ANGEL Believe, and The Beatles LOVE. As a keyboardist, mixing engineer and experienced Live user, he brings musical training, audio production expertise and live performance experience to his clients and students. Gavin earned his Master of Music in Sound Recording in 1998 at McGill University, where he studied under George Massenburg. He has recently worked with producers Sir George Martin and Giles Martin, sound designer Jonathan Deans, and film composer Eric Serra. Gavin is the first Ableton Certified Trainer in Las Vegas, has taught at UNLV, and provides training on Live to Cirque du Soleil shows in Las Vegas and elsewhere. He is fluent in English and French. Gavin is available for small group classes, customized one-on-one training, and on-site or remote consultation.
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Rkelly posted:The third link on google your quotes are loving you over smarty pants.
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TylerK posted:I think it has less to do with the quotes than it does you giving the guy's last name as Whitley instead of Whitely. There are two e's: Gavin Whiteley 
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Ha! I even screwed up my counter-correction. This is a sign that that dude needs to change his name for the benefit of everyone else.
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Rkelly posted:The third link on google your quotes are loving you over smarty pants. Actually, I think you spelled the name wrong in your original post.
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Gah... I'm so torn. I've worked in Max/MSP a lot and I love the environment. Should I buy Max 5, or should I buy the upgrade from Live 7 to Live 8 with Max 4 Live? Someone please make this decision for me I'm dying here
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