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Okay so I was talking to the program director of the digital audio arts degree I'm enrolled in about possibly utilizing Ableton Live 8 as the back-bone of the program as opposed to Ditigal Performer, Pro Tools and Max-MSP standalone. He said he's not too familiar with Ableton as a whole but is aware that Max for Live just came out, which sort of intrigued him a little bit but still he would prefer to work with Pro Tools and DP because "I don't know what kind of capability Live has for 5.1 or better surround sound applications in the real world and in our new surround sound studio." I can understand his point of view; he's familiar with Pro Tools and Digital Performer as surround sound compatible DAWs and he knows that he can use them in the new surround sound oriented studio being built on-site (this is at the University of Lethbridge.) It's the Digital Audio Arts program's first year of implementation so there's a lot of opportunity to shape the future of the course RIGHT NOW, and most of the students enrolled right now would love to see something more than Pro Tools and DP, which is why I'm trying to push for the school to purchase Ableton Live 8 w/ Max for Live licenses. After having watched the Beatles "Love" Cirque du Soleil/Gavin Whitely Ableton video and read the zoominfo article Rkelly posted I think I might have enough fodder to strongly present my case to the professor, but I'm wondering if there's anything else you guys might know about surround sound or other ground-breaking live applications of Ableton (that PT or DP might lack) in the real world that I could use to strengthen my argument. I tried to show one of the other professors some videos of Daft Punk's Alive 2007 tour but perhaps because of my raging fanboyism he didn't seem to grasp the role of Live as being anything revolutionary. So I'm appealing to you guys once again for anything I can use to influence the faculty of the department of Digital Audio Arts and Music at the UofL beyond any shadow of a doubt of the virtues of Ableton Live in a real-world setting and why they should shell out a butt-load of our tuition money to pay for a license. Examples which place emphasis on surround sound studio-like applications would be more likely to sway their opinion favourably, as the new studio being built is the program director's pride and joy - the design of it was commissioned to same man who designed Danny Elfman's personal home studio (though his name eludes me and google isn't really helping...), so the program director has understandably been grinning ear-to-ear every day since construction began. I'm worried though that his pride may temporarily be blinding him from external student input, which is why I need a strong case to present or risk being brushed off entirely. XYZAB fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Dec 23, 2009 |
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colonp posted:What does Max/MSP have that Max for Live doesn't? I consider myself a very capable internet researcher and yet cannot find the answer the this question.
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colonp posted:What does Max/MSP have that Max for Live doesn't? Jitter? Maybe? It seems pretty full-featured to me...
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Dec 23, 2009 06:20
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Re: Max 4 Live, http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/11/24/max-for-live-comes-with-some-strings-attached-for-creators/
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Dec 23, 2009 12:26
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Yeah reading that article has more or less convinced me to forget buying max by itself. It would be nice to be able to release my patches to work with the MAX standalone, but can't I just copy and paste my M4L patches into a 30-day max trial to do this?
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Dec 23, 2009 17:42
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If you do that, tell me how you like it. I've been wanting to purchase Max for years (sooo over PD), but just could never justify it. That pricepoint is much more appealing.
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Alright I'm having an issue with my Liveset. The last time I played out dblue Glitch crashed Live. This is obviously unacceptable but now Live crashes every time I try to remove an instance of Glitch from my set. I can't save. Any ideas how I can get rid of it? edit: Just tried it one more time using rightclick delete instead of the delete key and it worked. What the gently caress. Problem solved I guess. Dopo fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Dec 23, 2009 |
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Dec 23, 2009 21:52
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I'm just trying out the demo of Ableton Live and it's so much fun. I'm not a DJ or a professional musician, but I sometimes make music for student films of my friends and also just like to record myself playing the electric guitar and keyboard and then mix it together. This seems so easy with Ableton, it's incredible. Now, getting the Live version or the Suite would blow the bank at the moment, for a hobby like this, so what exactly is missing from the Intro version? Also, are the 7GB of loops, instruments and beats worth the extra $30 of the boxed version? EDIT: I just found an online reseller near me that sells the boxed version at the same price as the download version on Ableton's website 
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colonp fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Dec 24, 2009 16:09
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colonp posted:Intro vs 8. What's a scene? A scene is a set of clips that are aligned horizontally in set view. If you look on the master track, there are play buttons on each row, and if you engage it, it will begin to play the corresponding clips in that horizontal row.
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colonp fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Dec 24, 2009 16:22
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colonp posted:Intro vs 8. What's a scene?  Sucks that Intro doesn't support video import  What do they mean by "External Instrument/Audio Effect devices (which are not supported as well)?
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Dec 24, 2009 17:26
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FLX posted:Thanks External refers to real instruments captured via microphone or if you were to plug in a guitar to your audio interface, for example. External effects would be the same...rack mounted effects units. Tangible things.
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Dec 24, 2009 17:43
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k0konutz posted:External refers to real instruments captured via microphone or if you were to plug in a guitar to your audio interface, for example. EDIT /\ /\ /\ So those "devices" aren't real devices, but "Ableton Software Devices"?
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Dec 24, 2009 18:59
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RivensBitch posted:Yeah reading that article has more or less convinced me to forget buying max by itself. It would be nice to be able to release my patches to work with the MAX standalone, but can't I just copy and paste my M4L patches into a 30-day max trial to do this? Are you eligible for a student discount for Max? Getting it and the MaxForLive crossgrade is only 50 bucks more than buying only MaxForLive.
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Radical Cut posted:Are you eligible for a student discount for Max? Getting it and the MaxForLive crossgrade is only 50 bucks more than buying only MaxForLive. I am not a student. I sent in my wife's student ID from beautician college and the folks at cycling74 laughed at me. True story.
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I have a dumb question. I just ordered an APC40 and I'm currently stationed in Iraq. Will I have to buy a voltage converter to keep from frying the drat thing?
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Vanmani 2 pages ago posted:The APC40 comes with a switching power adapter that switches from 100V-240V. I am using one I imported from the US fine over here in Australia, just by using a $1 US to AUS plug adapter. Should be fine unless they use a voltage outside of the range 100-240.
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Vanmani posted:Should be fine unless they use a voltage outside of the range 100-240. Haha yeah I just noticed that post from two pages ago. Great thread.
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Radical Cut posted:Are you eligible for a student discount for Max? Getting it and the MaxForLive crossgrade is only 50 bucks more than buying only MaxForLive.
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CHRISTS FOR SALE posted:Does that work? That makes Max/MSP/Jitter and Max For Live total about $350.00, right? I just want to make sure before I order anything that I'm not gonna have to buy essentially two licenses to use Max... It does, it's what I did. Buy Max first, and use the license code you're given to get the discount for Max For Live.
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Got another question concerning Ableton Intro. I found a USB-MIDI Keyboard controller that comes with Ableton Live Lite (which is even more basic than Intro) at a good price. On the Ableton website it says that Ableton Live LE users get a free copy of Intro (scroll down a bit to the black banner), but I wasn't able to figure out if LE == Lite. Has anybody tried this with their Lite copy?
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Thank God for this:quote:Dear Ableton users, http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=132761
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Free Live 8 update? Aren't all Live updates free?
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Yes, the important part is not "free Live 8 update", it's that they will "suspend all development towards new features" until the various bugs are sorted out.
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...wait, they're charging for the free update?
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Motherf... Just recorded 2 mixes in Ableton live. The sound in was crystal clear, except when I was done and played it back. Crackling noises all over. Tried the exact same setup in Soundforge and voila, no crackles. Anybody know the cause of this?
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ShoodZ posted:Motherf... I have that problem sometimes when I use my POD X3 as an external USB soundcard. Rebooting fixes the problem for me.
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Beginner question regarding djing / performance with ableton.. Ive been using my a soundcard jack for cue output when playing with my home desktop pc.. if i want to setup and play with my laptop whats the best solution for cue output? A recording interface? Or would obtaining a mixer be better.. how do they interface with ableton? Im currently using a midi keyboard with controls to cue crossfade etc thanks
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You can do it however you want. With a box with two outputs (really, just rca and a headphone), you can crossfade in ableton. With a box with 2 or more stereo outs, you can run it to a mixer and do you cueing and crossfading on the mixer. Its really what you want to do. The cheaper route would obviously be to mix in Ableton.
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ManoliIsFat posted:You can do it however you want. With a box with two outputs (really, just rca and a headphone), you can crossfade in ableton. With a box with 2 or more stereo outs, you can run it to a mixer and do you cueing and crossfading on the mixer. Its really what you want to do. The cheaper route would obviously be to mix in Ableton. Speaking of, has anyone played with this yet? http://www.jr.com/m--audio-mixer-audio-interface/pe/MIM_NRV10/
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Got a quick super-newbie question here as well: I tried to automate the "Device On" parameter of a reverb, which worked fine until I must have clicked something wrong and now "Device On" is greyed out and the automation doesn't do anything. What did I do and how can I revert it back?
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i want to map certain buttons on my midi controllers to play specific notes/chords on the piano roll. do I have to make a separate midi clip for each desired note/chord and trigger them that way, or is there a way to map buttons directly to notes?
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FLX posted:Got a quick super-newbie question here as well: hit f10 if you tweak a parameter that is automated, it'll basically override the automation and go into manual mode, hitting f10 will revert everything to whats scripted
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mezzir posted:hit f10 there is also a little button next to the transport bar that says "revert to arrangement"
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