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Yakattak: Dec 17, 2009; I am Grumpypuss
>:3

Haquer posted:

I'm guilty of using nondescript variables, but only in situations like so:
code:
for (int i = 0; i < MAX; i++)
Which can lead to bad code, but I still catch myself doing it.

But it's funny that he asked you why you had descriptive variable names. I've yet to have somebody ask me that.

That's fairly reasonable as long as it's in a loop, as you rarely ever need to know what that variable is, usually because it's scope is only within the loop. I don't use i however, I use count, because I seem to always miss i when reading code.

# ? Jan 1, 2010 01:01

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# ? May 14, 2024 17:13

Dijkstracula: Mar 18, 2003; You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

Yakattak posted:

That's fairly reasonable as long as it's in a loop, as you rarely ever need to know what that variable is, usually because it's scope is only within the loop. I don't use i however, I use count, because I seem to always miss i when reading code.

What do you do when you have to use a nested loop?

(please don't say "count2" :v:

)

# ? Jan 1, 2010 01:26

Yakattak: Dec 17, 2009; I am Grumpypuss
>:3

Dijkstracula posted:

What do you do when you have to use a nested loop?

(please don't say "count2" )

Valid point sir, I've actually, never come across such a situation, but I would probably come up with a meaningful count variable, or suffice to i/a/x/y/z/n you know, the usuals. :smuggo:

# ? Jan 1, 2010 01:30

RussianManiac: Dec 27, 2005; by Ozmaugh

dis astranagant posted:

Implementing a switch with a for case loop uattack is an int assigned in a loop a couple lines above this, by the way.

[code]
stuff

You could just not use a for or switch but just divide each case into a subroutine and call them sequentially from somewhere?

# ? Jan 1, 2010 01:32

dis astranagant: Dec 14, 2006

RussianManiac posted:

You could just not use a for or switch but just divide each case into a subroutine and call them sequentially from somewhere?

It's not even a sequence. It checks uattack for every possible value it can take, then checks if the player isn't in a form that can do that and sets up the attack if possible. It's a roundabout way of running a switch on uattack.

dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jan 1, 2010

# ? Jan 1, 2010 02:07

chips: Dec 25, 2004; Mein Führer! I can walk!

tombom posted:

I'm sure this has been posted somewhere around here before, but I haven't seen it.
Spectate Swamp Desktop Search It kind of speaks for itself. He posts a lot and it seems he writes code like this professionally.

SpectateSwamp posted:

Keep going with your Search. The big players in desktop search just don't get it. What sorta works for billions of web pages doesn't when matched up against SSDS. And random is key. If you had tons of family pictures you'd realize the importance. If you had thousands of video clips you would know. I sometimes forget that few, if any of you have or use video to the degree that I do. I probably keep more notes that the rest of you too. Because it's easy for me. SSDS allows me to backup 1 folder and have all my valuable data secure. With secure data. I don't worry about anything.

SSDS code may be not so perfect when it comes to coding standards. But as some of us know, that doesn't matter an iota. If it isn't broke don't fix it. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. So many of the old adages hold true here. Sharing your imperfect source is brave of you. Good going.

I don't know the full context of this, but he seems hilarious. A search engine that returns random results? How useful

# ? Jan 1, 2010 16:07

RussianManiac: Dec 27, 2005; by Ozmaugh

SpectateSwamp posted:

If you are in a non-sharing environment. (no copies allowed) Then keep even more notes at home (and
email those to the office) use a digital camera or camcorder to secure the other info you need. Or have
a more gutsy co-worker do the copies for you.

http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/t/13917.aspx?PageIndex=1

lol

# ? Jan 1, 2010 21:56

Dijkstracula: Mar 18, 2003; You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

RussianManiac posted:

http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/t/13917.aspx?PageIndex=1

lol

holy crap, this guy is evidentially a legend http://thestupidestmanonearth.com/

# ? Jan 1, 2010 21:58

chips: Dec 25, 2004; Mein Führer! I can walk!

Here he has a screencast that explains how to set up the Visual Basic 5.0 project for SSDS

Rather than just distributing the VB project files.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7589648200316339053

chips fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jan 1, 2010

# ? Jan 1, 2010 22:55

spiritual bypass: Feb 19, 2008; Grimey Drawer

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# ? Jan 1, 2010 23:49

RussianManiac: Dec 27, 2005; by Ozmaugh

lol. I like the fact of how self-confident he sounds thinking himself to be some turbo productive computer genious, yet still programs in VB.

# ? Jan 1, 2010 23:52

Dijkstracula: Mar 18, 2003; You can't spell 'vector field' without me, Professor!

He's like Hexadecimal's creepy uncle.

# ? Jan 1, 2010 23:53

RussianManiac: Dec 27, 2005; by Ozmaugh

Dijkstracula posted:

He's like Hexadecimal's creepy uncle.

At least hexadecimal used Java

# ? Jan 1, 2010 23:57

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

RussianManiac posted:

At least hexadecimal used Java

I wonder how you know this :v:

# ? Jan 2, 2010 01:44

nbv4: Aug 21, 2002; by Duchess Gummybuns

RussianManiac posted:

lol. I like the fact of how self-confident he sounds thinking himself to be some turbo productive computer genious, yet still programs in VB.

he's the King REoL of the computer programming world

# ? Jan 2, 2010 04:00

Sam.: Jan 1, 2009; "I thought we had something, Shepard. Something real."

Dijkstracula posted:

holy crap, this guy is evidentially a legend http://thestupidestmanonearth.com/

haha seriously

# ? Jan 2, 2010 04:36

duck monster: Dec 15, 2004

Dijkstracula posted:

holy crap, this guy is evidentially a legend http://thestupidestmanonearth.com/

http://telusplanet.net/public/stonedan/source.txt

This code is spectacular. I haven't seen a GOSUB in decades, outside of old engineering scripts to drive RS232 poo poo around in qbasic (open "com1:" as #1,9600,blah,blah")

edit: Ahaha this is schizophrenic as hell. I don't know if anyone here ever stumbled on the "Kyoon" threads in LF. Kyoon was a paranoid schizophrenic dude , aka "The end times prophet", who managed to stumble into LF and was quickly adopted as the forum crazy-person mascot. This guys like the computer-programmer version of kyoon.

duck monster fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Jan 2, 2010

# ? Jan 2, 2010 05:25

tripwire: Nov 19, 2004; _{ghost flow}

tef posted:

I wonder how you know this

# ? Jan 2, 2010 06:03

Plorkyeran: Mar 22, 2007; To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

It's nice to see that his insanity isn't limited to programming.

# ? Jan 2, 2010 06:34

RussianManiac: Dec 27, 2005; by Ozmaugh

Plorkyeran posted:

It's nice to see that his insanity isn't limited to programming.

It is a self-reaffirming thing to read reply to that thread and realize that i'm not the only one who can't understand what the gently caress hes talking about.

# ? Jan 2, 2010 06:36

tripwire: Nov 19, 2004; _{ghost flow}

Whats so complicated :confused:

# ? Jan 2, 2010 06:45

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

Isn't numbering boxes on a flowchart a COBOL thing? Because numbers are much more readable than named functions or some such nonsense.

# ? Jan 2, 2010 13:16

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

Zombywuf posted:

Isn't numbering boxes on a flowchart a COBOL thing? Because numbers are much more readable than named functions or some such nonsense.

Those are line numbers

# ? Jan 2, 2010 13:30

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

tef posted:

Those are line numbers

13627C?

# ? Jan 2, 2010 13:32

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

Zombywuf posted:

13627C?

from the above source:

code:

line_13627:
    If (tt = 0 Or tt > line_len + over_lap) And Mid(aaa, line_len - 1, 1) = " " Then tt = line_len - 1
    If (tt = 0 Or tt > line_len + over_lap) And Mid(aaa, line_len - 2, 1) = " " Then tt = line_len - 2
    If (tt = 0 Or tt > line_len + over_lap) And Mid(aaa, line_len - 3, 1) = " " Then tt = line_len - 3
    If (tt = 0 Or tt > line_len + over_lap) And Mid(aaa, line_len - 4, 1) = " " Then tt = line_len - 4
line_13627a:
    If tt = 0 Then GoTo line_13628
line_13627b:
    If tt > line_len + over_lap Then GoTo line_13628
line_13627c:
    array_aaa(array_pos) = " " + Left(aaa, tt - 1) + " "
    array_ooo(array_pos) = " " + Left(ooo, tt - 1) + " "
    aaa = Mid(aaa, tt)
    ooo = Mid(ooo, tt)
    xxx = Mid(xxx, tt)  'january 21 2001
    GoTo line_13620

# ? Jan 2, 2010 13:35

Zombywuf: Mar 29, 2008

Haha

That is Basic and COBOL, together at last.

# ? Jan 2, 2010 13:49

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

And anyway, isn't the point of a flowchart to describe the logic flow of the program, not to format the actual code in a weird way?

'Ah yes, array_aaa(array_pos)="y"+left(aa,tt-1)+"y"'

# ? Jan 2, 2010 15:30

GROVER CURES HOUSE: Aug 26, 2007; Go on...

This man is genuinely schizophrenic.

Kyooncode. :parrot:

# ? Jan 2, 2010 16:13

TOO SCSI FOR MY CAT: Oct 12, 2008; this is what happens when you take UI design away from engineers and give it to a bunch of hipster art student "designers"

Broken Knees Club posted:

This man is genuinely schizophrenic.

Kyooncode.

kyoode

# ? Jan 2, 2010 18:56

RussianManiac: Dec 27, 2005; by Ozmaugh

tef posted:

from the above source:

code:

line_13627:
    If (tt = 0 Or tt > line_len + over_lap) And Mid(aaa, line_len - 1, 1) = " " Then tt = line_len - 1
    If (tt = 0 Or tt > line_len + over_lap) And Mid(aaa, line_len - 2, 1) = " " Then tt = line_len - 2
    If (tt = 0 Or tt > line_len + over_lap) And Mid(aaa, line_len - 3, 1) = " " Then tt = line_len - 3
    If (tt = 0 Or tt > line_len + over_lap) And Mid(aaa, line_len - 4, 1) = " " Then tt = line_len - 4
line_13627a:
    If tt = 0 Then GoTo line_13628
line_13627b:
    If tt > line_len + over_lap Then GoTo line_13628
line_13627c:
    array_aaa(array_pos) = " " + Left(aaa, tt - 1) + " "
    array_ooo(array_pos) = " " + Left(ooo, tt - 1) + " "
    aaa = Mid(aaa, tt)
    ooo = Mid(ooo, tt)
    xxx = Mid(xxx, tt)  'january 21 2001
    GoTo line_13620

Does VB have nested if statements? Why does he repeat same condition 4 times?

EDIT: Well they do seem to have a side effect, but drat it, it seems like there would be a much much better way to do same poo poo.

# ? Jan 2, 2010 21:11

nbv4: Aug 21, 2002; by Duchess Gummybuns

RussianManiac posted:

Does VB have nested if statements? Why does he repeat same condition 4 times?

EDIT: Well they do seem to have a side effect, but drat it, it seems like there would be a much much better way to do same poo poo.

maybe he doesn't realize you can have multiple statements in one "Then" clause?

# ? Jan 2, 2010 23:24

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

tef posted:

code:

line_13627:
    If (tt = 0 Or tt > line_len + over_lap) And Mid(aaa, line_len - 1, 1) = " " Then tt = line_len - 1

does vb use '=' for both assignment and equality‽

# ? Jan 3, 2010 01:38

Sprawl: Nov 21, 2005; I'm a huge retarded sperglord who can't spell, but Starfleet Dental would still take me and I love them for it!

fritz posted:

does vb use '=' for both assignment and equality‽

Yes you do but you can't assign values in an Condition area but the after "Then" part does assign a value. I can't even imagine using code that looked like that its painful.

# ? Jan 3, 2010 01:40

spiritual bypass: Feb 19, 2008; Grimey Drawer

I usually get a good chuckle by looking at the code that some affiliates think my employer should place on their websites. For some reason, in addition to the horror that is tracking pixels, they like to include JavaScript that generates tracking pixels. I found this in one today and was sincerely confused

code:

document.write('<i' + 'mg height="1" width="1" border="0" ' + 'src="' + url + '&ifr' + 'ame=0"' + ' />');
document.write('</ifr' + 'ame>');

Why would a programmer go out of his way to do extra concatenations on a string that have no effect?

# ? Jan 5, 2010 23:11

BattleMaster: Aug 14, 2000

rt4 posted:

I usually get a good chuckle by looking at the code that some affiliates think my employer should place on their websites. For some reason, in addition to the horror that is tracking pixels, they like to include JavaScript that generates tracking pixels. I found this in one today and was sincerely confused
code:
document.write('<i' + 'mg height="1" width="1" border="0" ' + 'src="' + url + '&ifr' + 'ame=0"' + ' />');
document.write('</ifr' + 'ame>');
Why would a programmer go out of his way to do extra concatenations on a string that have no effect?

I think it's meant to protect it from filtering.

# ? Jan 5, 2010 23:14

RussianManiac: Dec 27, 2005; by Ozmaugh

rt4 posted:

I usually get a good chuckle by looking at the code that some affiliates think my employer should place on their websites. For some reason, in addition to the horror that is tracking pixels, they like to include JavaScript that generates tracking pixels. I found this in one today and was sincerely confused
code:
document.write('<i' + 'mg height="1" width="1" border="0" ' + 'src="' + url + '&ifr' + 'ame=0"' + ' />');
document.write('</ifr' + 'ame>');
Why would a programmer go out of his way to do extra concatenations on a string that have no effect?

Maybe its generated by something, and that something is loving up?

# ? Jan 5, 2010 23:14

Sprawl: Nov 21, 2005; I'm a huge retarded sperglord who can't spell, but Starfleet Dental would still take me and I love them for it!

rt4 posted:

I usually get a good chuckle by looking at the code that some affiliates think my employer should place on their websites. For some reason, in addition to the horror that is tracking pixels, they like to include JavaScript that generates tracking pixels. I found this in one today and was sincerely confused
code:
document.write('<i' + 'mg height="1" width="1" border="0" ' + 'src="' + url + '&ifr' + 'ame=0"' + ' />');
document.write('</ifr' + 'ame>');
Why would a programmer go out of his way to do extra concatenations on a string that have no effect?

I would venture to get around ad blockers.

# ? Jan 5, 2010 23:15

Munkeymon: Aug 14, 2003; Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.

zootm posted:

I knew a guy who did something near-identical to this (in Java) when I was at uni. I suggested the single-line version and he just kinda looked stunned, then said he'd "maybe think about doing it that way later". Oh, well.

That was amateur horror. It takes professionals to create Live Horrors

code:

function util_clearBlanks(str) {
   return util_clearAllBlanks(str,0);
}
function util_clearAllBlanks(str,intern) {
   var db, sss;
   var i,j,k;
   var out = "";

   if (str != "") {
      sss = str.toString();
      db = sss.split(" ");
      
      for (i=0; (i<db.length) && (db[i] == ""); i++) { }
      for (j=db.length-1; (j>=0) && (db[j] == ""); j--) { }
   
      //alert(db.length + " - " + i + " - " + j);
      for (k=i; k<=j; k++) {
         //alert("'" + db[k] + "'");
         if (db[k] != "") {
            if (intern != 1 && out != "") out = out + " ";
            // if (out != "") out = out + " ";
            out = out + db[k];
         }
      }
   } else {
      out = str;
   }
   
   return(out);
}

# ? Jan 5, 2010 23:52

zombienietzsche: Dec 9, 2003

Munkeymon posted:

That was amateur horror. It takes professionals to create Live Horrors

my... my god...

# ? Jan 6, 2010 00:23

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# ? May 14, 2024 17:13

Lonely Wolf: Jan 20, 2003; Will hawk false idols for heaps and heaps of dough.

Munkeymon posted:

That was amateur horror. It takes professionals to create Live Horrors

I want to quote my favorite line, but I just can't decide: they're all so bad.

Have you considered joining the rank of heroes who have come to work with a shotgun and a heart tempered in justice?

# ? Jan 6, 2010 00:41

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