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Your comparing apples to oranges and i dont know how you dont see that. Look motorsport shouldn't be a side show whore for corporations and thats all I'm saying. Sure you need sponsors and money to run it, but I cant help feel that this sport was created completely and entirely for the single purpose of selling energy drinks etc. Preoptopus fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jan 2, 2010 |
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Preoptopus posted:You're comparing apples to oranges and i dont know how you dont see that. See what you want to see. I enjoy the limited, canned exposure rally gets via the X Games.
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im not trying to be a dick man, i just dont see how the exposure from the x games will bring WRC to the states. But i suppose i cant argue with your personal enjoyment, im just venting my opinion. content http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54cbY6zXdGc
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Preoptopus posted:i'm not trying to be a dick man, i just don't see how the exposure from the x games will bring WRC to the states. But i suppose i can't argue with your personal enjoyment, i'm just venting my opinion. Ken Block and Pastrana have never been as good as Pat Richard or Antoine L'estage up in Canada. I bet you've never even heard of the latter. Why is that? Good marketing. Ken might have a chance at driving at a couple stages of the WRC next year. That's incredible exposure for the WRC to the US audience, considering that he could have never made it there from a skill standpoint alone. It's not just Block's driving that got rally put on TV. It's the whole package through which they reach the audience -- the crazy youtube videos, the stunts, the massive marketing and sponsorship money, and finally just enough results to back it all up.
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Preoptopus posted:This has no heart or soul. Its just a giant loving billboard for random sponcers who have nothing to do with any sort of motorsport. Its no longer man and machine vs mother nature, its home depot vs monster energy. I have to agree. The image of American rallying is the usual XXXTREEEEEM SPORTS angle, which might appeal to the younger demographic, but is a turn off for a heading-toward-40 guy like me. But I can tolerate it if they would present the sport as racing rather than a stunt show. I can deal with the massive ad exposure, but crap like that Ken Block acid trip-style video is likely just some buddy of Ken Block jerking off all over the footage. It's hard to take it seriously. Travis Pastrana's jump was pretty cool, but aside from doing it in a rally car, I don't see how it really exposed any body to rally. Sure, a bunch of people googled his name before and after the event, but how many will it draw into the sport? Manny: I grabbed Dirt 2 earlier this week and it's definitely a fun game, but again, XXXXTREEEEEEME! It doesn't have to be Rallisport Challenge to be an awesome rally game, but it definitely could've been toned down a little bit. Also, this thread is just making me die to get into rallycross. I've been wanting to do it forever, but just have never really had the time or resources. But I think I'll have both of those just in time for my alleged mid-life crisis, so here's to hoping! 
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Preoptopus posted:Your comparing apples to oranges and i dont know how you dont see that. Yea man I totally agree. When did race cars become rolling billboards? I wish we could go back to the Group C days when cars weren't just huge rolling ads for companies, like this:  I mean really some of the most notable race cars in the world never had marketing on them, it's like one day a few years ago I woke up and there were just these huge MONSTER ENERGY stickers and poo poo. What drivers use monster energy drinks. I don't know man I never ever saw Ferrari putting on sponsorships that have nothing to do with motorsports:  Then you go back to the Group B days when the cars were cars and men were men and did you see these huge corporate sponsorships from companies whose products didn't involve cars? No!  In conclusion are you loving retarded, Preoptopus? Do you ever look at racing history before raging against the giant conspiracy machine thats ruining your racing for you? Events have been giant marketing tools forever, this isn't anything new. Special stages like that have existed for a long time in rally and in rally cross too. It's appeal is not sitting outside for several hours to see a car pound by for 5 seconds. Are the cars not racing? Are they not driving the same course? Does the faster driver not win? Are they not applying techniques required to drive as fast as possible through dirt? Complaining its watered down is like saying WRC sucks because it's not a pure rally like Paris-Dakar; it's inside a stadium, who gives a gently caress? I mean, gently caress, they don't even need co-drivers. Ari Vatanen didn't use one on his world record pikes peak climb so I guess that isn't real rally either. Muffinpox fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jan 2, 2010 |
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For what it's worth his jump is much more impressive in GTA2 vision. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d83_1262454545 blambert fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Jan 2, 2010 |
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Preoptopus posted:This has no heart or soul. Its just a giant loving billboard for random sponcers who have nothing to do with any sort of motorsport. Its no longer man and machine vs mother nature, its home depot vs monster energy. And just when were you declared guardian of rallying? Have you looked at a real WRC round lately at all these random sponsotrs who have nothing to do with the sport? X-Games is simply put a US bent on Euro rallycross mixed in with a super special. What the gently caress is wrong with that? Nothing, that's what. It's what's been happening for 40 years so why the hell are you so bent by this point and giggle? Frankly it is exactly the exposure the sport needs to grow and it has grown as a result and I love it. These guys are prepared to tip cash in, then also go to the WRC as well next year. In other words, Pastrana and Block love the sport more than you do, get out on weekends to real rally events and understand the sport more than you do. And if Block wants to backflip a rally car, then gently caress it, I'm first in line to watch that poo poo. All the insane poo poo they have been doing in rally cars has risen the profile of the sport quite nicely and I'm all for it.
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Cat Terrist posted:Have you looked at a real WRC round lately at all these random sponsors who have nothing to do with the sport?
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Cat Terrist posted:In other words, Pastrana and Block love the sport more than you do, get out on weekends to real rally events and understand the sport more than you do. Whatever man. Rally in the X games is loving boring, wattered down, slow, show offy at best, and not something i ever want to watch or be a part of. So if you like that poo poo, fuckin watch it, great. Il be youtubing Finnish amature rallys instead because I think thats where the heart of the sport is. I was on here to share an opinion, and was respectful about it. But saying that Pastrana and Block love the sport more than I do has to be one of the most childish assumptions I've ever herd. Just because they have the time, and money to spend on that more than I do doesnt mean they love it more. Im a fan of rally, hill climbs, dakar etc.. Anyone of us could get into a car which we dont own, charge it down a mapped out planned out ramp at a calculated speed and hop some watter. Yea its cool. But its not sport. If you want flying cars id rather watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl2UUunlI2Q Anyway, im sorry if i upset anyone with my novice idiotic opinion on a matter i obvioulsy know knothing about Lets just move on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZk7-Fi3BHQ&feature=related Preoptopus fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jan 3, 2010 |
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Preoptopus posted:Whatever man. Rally in the X games is loving boring, wattered down, slow, show offy at best, and not something i ever want to watch or be a part of. So if you like that poo poo, fuckin watch it, great. Il be youtubing Finnish amature rallys instead because I think thats where the heart of the sport is. I was on here to share an opinion, and was respectful about it. But saying that Pastrana and Block love the sport more than I do has to be one of the most childish assumptions I've ever herd. Just because they have the time, and money to spend on that more than I do doesnt mean they love it more. Im a fan of rally, hill climbs, dakar etc.. Anyone of us could get into a car which we dont own, charge it down a mapped out planned out ramp at a calculated speed and hop some watter. Yea its cool. But its not sport. You really don't know poo poo about US rally do you? Instead of watching finnish amateur rally, why don't you watch a video of what Ken and Travis do 99% of the time in their cars when not at the X-games events. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLzEl_0FgK8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ySmUIyhU3E&feature=related Muffinpox fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Jan 3, 2010 |
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Muffinpox posted:You really don't know poo poo about US rally do you? He usually does this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPz7qPAxxxc
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Preoptopus posted:Whatever man. Rally in the X games is loving boring, wattered down, slow, show offy at best, and not something i ever want to watch or be a part of. So if you like that poo poo, fuckin watch it, great. Il be youtubing Finnish amature rallys instead because I think thats where the heart of the sport is. I was on here to share an opinion, and was respectful about it. But saying that Pastrana and Block love the sport more than I do has to be one of the most childish assumptions I've ever herd. Just because they have the time, and money to spend on that more than I do doesnt mean they love it more. Im a fan of rally, hill climbs, dakar etc.. Anyone of us could get into a car which we dont own, charge it down a mapped out planned out ramp at a calculated speed and hop some watter. Yea its cool. But its not sport. Did I just watch the same video as you? Nothing about the xgames rally was boring, watered down, or slow. Was there something in the video that I missed? I was just entertained by 90 minutes of rally cars racing.
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The A-Team Van posted:Did I just watch the same video as you? Nothing about the xgames rally was boring, watered down, or slow. Was there something in the video that I missed? I was just entertained by 90 minutes of rally cars racing.
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wolrah posted:I watched it live, there was enough room to stop if things had gone as planned, but Travis said in the post-jump interview that the landing area was practically ice due to condensation. Ice? In Long Beach, California? Or did he just mean it was wet and therefore slick?
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`Nemesis posted:Ice? In Long Beach, California? Or did he just mean it was wet and therefore slick? I was assuming so. IIRC he had to get up to nearly 100 MPH, so even in the dry it would have been a tight stop.
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he only had 150ft from the bottom of the ramp, was going 92, was on gravel tires, and the ramp was wet. plus you see the skid marks started quite a bit after the bottom. It takes the average sports car about 120 feet to stop from 60 on dry pavement.
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Preoptopus posted:noises This is why good audio is important. Who knew so pedestrian rally cars could sound so evil and untamed?
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Someone loan me $70k so I can pick one of these up from Ford. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxhUFCooEwg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MdAcIQYJ6c
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Hah, the Youtube still shot in the first is "Do not attempt on your own." Then why would I buy it?
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kimbo305 posted:Hah, the Youtube still shot in the first is "Do not attempt on your own." Considering only about a half dozen of the 50 made actually got raced, it, unfortunately, accurately describes the owner's group. They're all museum pieces in some collectors closet who's hoping to make millions in 20 years while forgetting that race cars that have no VIN, and therefore no chance of ever being road legal, are only valuable if they have a racing pedigree.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_F7QrR4Ur8 This thing just blows my mind.
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wolrah posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_F7QrR4Ur8 Thats nuts. I love it.
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Dustin Hoffman shows off a Volkswagen...guess where the engine is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwwvOIhSwKw I stumbled upon it randomly and for some odd reason, the charm of it makes me want to go back in time to buy...whatever that is.
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http://vimeo.com/8570435 The still at the end is the best.
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Seeing as how I have seen other R/C planes here, I think this should be here. Kickass 1/6th scale F-16 that does everything it seems... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKN2s7tFBQA
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I'm told this is old but I havn't seen it before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IojZCT9yXE Also related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzC6yU6DhkY
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Really? Really? I mean my god, I heard about this hilarious game called Zero Wing.
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I've been riding the internet since day dot so I'll wear any criticism but I guess its one of those things I have never seen before. Statistically unlikely but possible.
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-Spiffy- posted:I've been riding the internet since day dot so I'll wear any criticism but I guess its one of those things I have never seen before. The song on the arab bike drift was still popular and being played on the radio when that video was made. About 7-8 years ago.
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Eccentric Dutchmen racing extremely hard in 50-year-old vintage cars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdXksOeFes 2:30 of pure entertainment. Be sure to turn the sound on. Possibly posted this before, but gently caress it, the value/minute proposition is unbeatable. Sterndotstern fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Jan 8, 2010 |
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There can only be one!!!!!!!!!! Also, 1.50 is epic.
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Ughh Ohh. I hate to see the disclaimer Mercedes is going to have with this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49HdqtWHEoo
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_firehawk posted:Ughh Ohh. I hate to see the disclaimer Mercedes is going to have with this one. The way the doors come up at the end is great. The A-Team van is back! http://www.getthebigpicture.net/blog/2010/1/8/first-trailer-for-the-a-team.html
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Sterndotstern posted:Eccentric Dutchmen racing extremely hard in 50-year-old vintage cars: Argggh gently caress, why does it have to end just before they get to the next corner three abreast.
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Tentacle Party posted:Argggh gently caress, why does it have to end just before they get to the next corner three abreast. I know. It just became like a Forza3 "first corner" with goons racing. Who'll be the sucker that lets up?
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Tentacle Party posted:Argggh gently caress, why does it have to end just before they get to the next corner three abreast. Because that was the last lap, and they crossed the finish line?
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