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SentinelXS
Aug 30, 2009

Why don't you make like a tree, and FUCK OFF?

Rhyno posted:

Yup. That is a homemade Wrangler top.

Looks almost like a Landrover Defender.

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Clamwacker
Feb 12, 2007

It is now time to rock out with your cock out. BEGIN!

giundy posted:

The fuel gauge in my CJ doesn't work. I'm not surprised, but thinking back a few months when I first bought the Jeep it would go to full. After tearing into the gauge and seeing its burnt up, it seems my temp gauge may be in the same boat. Both gauges work as they temp gets higher, or the fuel level lower the resistance lowers. A short will then cause the gauge to burn out, putting me in my current situation. My temp gauge goes up to hot as soon as the engine starts, which would be another sign there is a short somewhere.

From here, do I replace the OEM gauge with another crappy one likely to break or go aftermarket and add another hole in the dash. The old fuel gauge will just always sit at empty.

There is a wiring bulkhead thing behind the dash (a CJ-5 owner was telling me about mine the other day, I have similar problems with my fuel/temp gauges), and a common cause of these issues is that the connections in this bulkhead get dirty or corroded.

In my case, the temp gauge slams back and forth between min and max, occasionally reading what appears to be a correct temperature, and the fuel gauge never goes below half a tank, but when full it goes well past the full mark.

I haven't torn into mine yet to find the thing, but it's supposedly under the panel that goes between the back of the hood and the windshield, so I'm guessing the dash has to come out.

This CJ-5 owner told me that once he cleaned all the connections and reseated all the wires, his gauge problems have vanished.

Gavitron
Sep 11, 2001

One of the downsides of being special is that you feel out of place wherever you go.
Pillbug
I almost put this in the cellphone thread, but it's a jeep thing.

I saw this guy while out driving last week, and snapped a couple pics as I passed him on the Port Mann Bridge:


Click here for the full 800x600 image.


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incredibull
Sep 7, 2008

GENERIC
I don't know he's probably pretty dry with the bikini top on, unless a gust hits him from behind.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Can I get a bit of help with a price check? My friend is enamored with Cherokees and has found a decent candidate.

2000 XJ
automatic with Command-Trac
stock everything
101k miles
new brakes, fluids, serpentine belt, shocks, exhaust
very little rust for a New England car
no apparent issues

The seller wants $4200. I'd say that's a fair price. I've tried to read through here and also some of the Jeep sites for buying guides (they tend to be not very informative). Is there anything about the 2000 year that is a standout issue? It's pretty late in the cycle and I assume that helps.

fordham
Oct 5, 2002

Your argument is invalid.
Exciting Lemon

kimbo305 posted:

Can I get a bit of help with a price check? My friend is enamored with Cherokees and has found a decent candidate.

2000 XJ
automatic with Command-Trac
stock everything
101k miles
new brakes, fluids, serpentine belt, shocks, exhaust
very little rust for a New England car
no apparent issues

The seller wants $4200. I'd say that's a fair price. I've tried to read through here and also some of the Jeep sites for buying guides (they tend to be not very informative). Is there anything about the 2000 year that is a standout issue? It's pretty late in the cycle and I assume that helps.

Mine has been great. Same old Jeep issues - A/C, some electronics (windows :argh:), But a solid truck.

Philip J Fry
Apr 25, 2007

go outside and have a blast
The only major thing with 00-01 Cherokees is that some have the 0331 head castings which are prone to cracking.

Slow is Fast
Dec 25, 2006

Apparently the tweeters in WJ's are known for blowing out on all of them. To the point where some guy started a website selling JUST the tweeters.

http://www.jeeptweeter.com/

I bought a replacement pair of the cheapo's to throw in. They sound alright, but gently caress was it easy. Pop off the panel, 4 screws, two clips. Put it back together, done. I wish my car was that easy.

If you've got a WJ with blown tweeters and actually give a poo poo, replacing them is stupid simple.

Dividend Special
Jul 24, 2007

by Fistgrrl

Philip J Fry posted:

The only major thing with 00-01 Cherokees is that some have the 0331 head castings which are prone to cracking.

I need to know more about this specific head castings being prone to cracking thing. I drive a '98 XJ. Will it be affected by this problem? What years were these heads defective? I can't find any solid info on it.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Philip J Fry posted:

The only major thing with 00-01 Cherokees is that some have the 0331 head castings which are prone to cracking.

Is it some or all came with it from the factory? I looked at a few articles online, and it's not clear to me if any head stamped 0331 is a problematic 0331.

fordham
Oct 5, 2002

Your argument is invalid.
Exciting Lemon

kimbo305 posted:

Is it some or all came with it from the factory? I looked at a few articles online, and it's not clear to me if any head stamped 0331 is a problematic 0331.

I would love to know more about this as well.

incredibull
Sep 7, 2008

GENERIC

Dividend Special posted:

I need to know more about this specific head castings being prone to cracking thing. I drive a '98 XJ. Will it be affected by this problem? What years were these heads defective? I can't find any solid info on it.

They started showing up around late '99. Not all fail, in fact from what I've seen most won't, but those that do crack right about in the very center of the head between cyl 3/4 exh valves. It was a casting problem, not a design problem, and therefore not all 0331 heads are destined for failure.

There are tons of threads about this problem on all of the Jeep sites. Just Google it and you'll have days worth of reading.

Gavitron
Sep 11, 2001

One of the downsides of being special is that you feel out of place wherever you go.
Pillbug

incredibull posted:

I don't know he's probably pretty dry with the bikini top on, unless a gust hits him from behind.

If you see the first pic, the road spray & rainfall combined should have made him a literal wetback. not to mention his interior etc. I'm still coming to terms with the perpetually soaked carpets from leaking, I can't imagine willfully flooding mine.

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Gavitron posted:

If you see the first pic, the road spray & rainfall combined should have made him a literal wetback. not to mention his interior etc. I'm still coming to terms with the perpetually soaked carpets from leaking, I can't imagine willfully flooding mine.

I dunno, I've driven convertibles on the freeway with the top down in the rain and as long as you have the windows up you don't get wet at all.

Now, when you stop ...

incredibull
Sep 7, 2008

GENERIC
I've driven in some pretty heavy rain on the freeway in my TJ with only the top and doors on, no back windows. I never got any road spray into the cab, which I guess is odd considering how much of it I get when the top is on in the rain.

presidentnixon
Sep 12, 2005

No, the other Nixon.
I'm thinking about picking up an 85 Cherokee (2.8L 5spd) on the cheap. I haven't driven it yet, but the seller says that it makes "quite a bit of noise" in all gears but 4th. He says its a bad bearing that is on "the back of the input, (female) and the (male) end of the main shaft".

I can probably manage a fluid change, or a straight up transmission swap, but is this bearing serviceable? Does this make sense to anyone? It's a super low price, which is why I'm tempted...

incredibull
Sep 7, 2008

GENERIC
The 2.8 was awful, so unless you plan to swap in a 3.4, I'd just stay the hell away from it and find a 4.0. Even 2.5 would be better.

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

incredibull posted:

The 2.8 was awful, so unless you plan to swap in a 3.4, I'd just stay the hell away from it and find a 4.0. Even 2.5 would be better.

Seriously, listen to this man. I've had one and it's HORRIBLE.

herbaceous backson
Mar 10, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
I've been looking for a nice YJ for a good while now, and ran across this:





Clean unmolested YJs are getting harder and harder to find, which is why I'm inclined to jump on it.

It's a 4.2L, 5 speed, 89k miles.

Is $3900 a good price for this? Is the 4.2l as bulletproof as the 4.0?

herbaceous backson fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Jan 20, 2010

Steiler Drep
Nov 30, 2004
what?

a handful of dust posted:

Is $3900 a good price for this? Is the 4.2l as bulletproof as the 4.0?

Supposedly they are, but just recently I've started having problems with mine (random shutoffs, extraordinarily low economy, unstable motor). I sent my car to be checked by a CJ specialist. Also remember they have more torque @ lower RPMs, but nevertheless less power/speed. These aren't fast cars at all, so keep that in mind (which I'm sure you already know). I'm looking into the 4.0 head swap, giving me a ~50hp increase and a ~17% increase in economy, so if it's anything is all good, except the moving to injection part and probably messing out on that.

Tossed_Salad_Man
Feb 19, 2002

You Gon' Get Raped.

Steiler Drep posted:

Supposedly they are, but just recently I've started having problems with mine (random shutoffs, extraordinarily low economy, unstable motor). I sent my car to be checked by a CJ specialist. Also remember they have more torque @ lower RPMs, but nevertheless less power/speed. These aren't fast cars at all, so keep that in mind (which I'm sure you already know). I'm looking into the 4.0 head swap, giving me a ~50hp increase and a ~17% increase in economy, so if it's anything is all good, except the moving to injection part and probably messing out on that.

Also doing a TFI ignition upgrade will increase performance. If you want it in an easy to buy kit you can go here: http://www.crtperformance.com/html/the__juicebox_.html.

Also with this kit you should do a nutter bypass. This was probably the best upgrade I made on my old YJ.

more info: http://www.crtperformance.com/html/the__juicebox_.html

You can buy the components separately for around 50 bucks or so, but this kit comes with a neat bracket for the new coil.

nullfox
Aug 19, 2008
I expect all kinds of poo poo for this, so flame to your hearts content.

That 2004 Grand Cherokee I bought? Yea, its loving miserable. Short story is, I let myself get talked into a car that was too small for me, and now im loving miserable trying to drive it. The only thing I can do at this point is find something else, trade it in, take the negative equity and tack it onto my loan - at this point, im ok with that, the price I pay for letting myself get talked into something.

Now comes the fun part - Anyone got any suggestions on larger SUV's that I might actually fit into? I'd like to find something that is still off road capable, but that seems to be more difficult to find.

On my list to look is a Chevy Tahoe, Toyota Sequoia, FJ Cruiser (The looks take some getting used to) and even an Xterra.

So goons, what are your thoughts?

P.S. Anyone looked a Jeep Commander, does it have anymore room up front, or is it all in the rear end end?

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

a handful of dust posted:

I've been looking for a nice YJ for a good while now, and ran across this:





Clean unmolested YJs are getting harder and harder to find, which is why I'm inclined to jump on it.

It's a 4.2L, 5 speed, 89k miles.

Is $3900 a good price for this? Is the 4.2l as bulletproof as the 4.0?

drat, that thing looks amazing. Usually they've been molested and modified to hell and back by now. Not sure if the price is good or not, but I'd be very interested.

Steiler Drep
Nov 30, 2004
what?

Tossed_Salad_Man posted:

Also doing a TFI ignition upgrade will increase performance. If you want it in an easy to buy kit you can go here: http://www.crtperformance.com/html/the__juicebox_.html.

Also with this kit you should do a nutter bypass. This was probably the best upgrade I made on my old YJ.

more info: http://www.crtperformance.com/html/the__juicebox_.html

You can buy the components separately for around 50 bucks or so, but this kit comes with a neat bracket for the new coil.

Got mine checked out and apparently the spark cables were poo poo. It was running like it was a 4banger, so the mechanic is changing the ignition I'm guessing to something like what you are indicating it and he promises +100 mpg plus better performance on my car. He also criticizes the Weber carburetor on my car and states I should install the original Ford one (which got lost with the last owner), which I somehow agree with him as the weber air filter is WAY too small for a motor as big as this, but there's nothing but good reviews on it stating it gets better mileage and power. Mech says it's all but that, and in fact since it's pulling so much air through that small filter it's also going to pull in lots of dirt and in fact gently caress poo poo up. Who should I believe here?

Also, never got this sorted out. I'm planning on the 4.0L head conversion (this is like the 5th time I post this) to do it in about 2-3 months. There's a '87-'90 head and a '91-'99 head. Which should I get, is the fuel injection conversion necessary, and if it is, how involved is it (as in, what should I get and how much can I gently caress this up)?

Big K of Justice
Nov 27, 2005

Anyone seen my ball joints?

WildFoxMedia posted:

I expect all kinds of poo poo for this, so flame to your hearts content.


I'd check out the Jeep Commander, or maybe a 4 door Jeep JK. I had a friend that was going to buy a older Wrangler and he found the JK much more roomier than the previous generation of wrangler.

Since you are listing full size domestive SUV's, I'd consider adding any Hummer product to your list of vehicles to check out, Full size SUV's are right up their alley. Depending on model year they all have eaton e-locking differentials, some with front and rear standard [adventure package] along with standard skid plates and very good OEM slope performance, good approach and departure angles and come well equipped even though 95% of owners never go over anything more challenging than a speed bump.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

WildFoxMedia posted:

I expect all kinds of poo poo for this, so flame to your hearts content.


We all make mistakes man.

Molten Llama
Sep 20, 2006

WildFoxMedia posted:

P.S. Anyone looked a Jeep Commander, does it have anymore room up front, or is it all in the rear end end?

It's been a while since I've been in a WJ, but it seems to me that both the XK (Commander) and WK (05+ Grand Cherokee) have more front driver legroom than the older models did. On the downside the ignition's dash-mount and the center stack angles are kind of claustrophobic for your right leg, but I manage to comfortably cram all 6'7" of me into both current vehicles.

If girth is an issue as well as legroom, you can skip right over the current Jeep lineup. It's probably the coziest it's been. In that case I'd definitely run with the Hummer suggestion. Or even a pickup if you're not set on an SUV.

nullfox
Aug 19, 2008
Thanks guys, those were all helpful and re-assuring suggestions.

I hadn't thought about a Hummer - I guess I got hung up on the "BRA!" effect many of them seem to have.

I quiet the like Commander's - I've heard they are just supposed to be a larger Grand Cherokee, but Edmunds seems to give it more poo poo then a Grand Cherokee talking about cheap interior materials, MPG, etc. Are they really that much different?

Also, no love for FJ Cruisers? I know they are kind of different looking, but they aren't any more radical looking then an H2 IMO.

nullfox fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Jan 21, 2010

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

WildFoxMedia posted:

Also, no love for FJ Cruisers? I know they are kind of different looking, but they aren't any more radical looking then an H2 IMO.

When you said you wanted a larger SUV, were you looking for one that only seats 4? Is it just room up front for the driver that you need?

giundy
Dec 10, 2005

WildFoxMedia posted:

Thanks guys, those were all helpful and re-assuring suggestions.

I hadn't thought about a Hummer - I guess I got hung up on the "BRA!" effect many of them seem to have.

I quiet the like Commander's - I've heard they are just supposed to be a larger Grand Cherokee, but Edmunds seems to give it more poo poo then a Grand Cherokee talking about cheap interior materials, MPG, etc. Are they really that much different?

Also, no love for FJ Cruisers? I know they are kind of different looking, but they aren't any more radical looking then an H2 IMO.

How loving big are you?

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
At 6'2, the jk jeeps have a lot of leg room in the front.

nullfox
Aug 19, 2008

giundy posted:

How loving big are you?

6'4", 42/44 waist, size 14 feet

nullfox
Aug 19, 2008

kimbo305 posted:

When you said you wanted a larger SUV, were you looking for one that only seats 4? Is it just room up front for the driver that you need?

Seating for 4 is fine. Usually it is myself, my girlfriend and our dog. I dont carry more then 2 people around all that often, but I usually have stuff in the back, etc.

Edit: Yes, I realize I should have edited my other post instead of replying again.

Slack3r
Feb 20, 2004

fordham posted:

If you have no records you should change every drop of oil in the thing.

Engine
Transmission
Front Diff
Rear Diff
Transfer Case

Use only Mopar in the automatic tranny! It's expensive but necessary Not sure about the transfer case, but I used mopar there too.

I drain and fill my transmission every 30k. At 90k I had it flushed and the filter changed out, pan resealed with silicon (not a pre-formed gasket - those tend to have issues). This advice is from a Jeep mechanic for >20 years (and he owns a '91 XJ himself). When I do the full tranny service I had them do the diffs + transfer case too.

Does anyone ever change their power steering fluid?


Do NOT use the Mopar tranny fluid in the AW4. It will cause it to slip and overheat causing possible damage. Drain the Mopar fluid and replace with Dex/Merc III. As stated before, the AW4 is NOT a Mopar tranny. Its a Toyota and uses plain old Dex/Merc ATF.

Yes, I change my PS fluid too. :)

Veeb0rg
Jul 24, 2001

THIS CONVERSATION IS NONPRODUCTIVE!

Slack3r posted:

Do NOT use the Mopar tranny fluid in the AW4. It will cause it to slip and overheat causing possible damage. Drain the Mopar fluid and replace with Dex/Merc III. As stated before, the AW4 is NOT a Mopar tranny. Its a Toyota and uses plain old Dex/Merc ATF.

Yes, I change my PS fluid too. :)

Techincally the AW4 is an Allison transmission, they provide transmissions for many different vehicle manufacturers.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Veeb0rg posted:

Techincally the AW4 is an Allison transmission, they provide transmissions for many different vehicle manufacturers.

AW4 = Aisin Warner = Borg Warner

from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Aisin_transmissions

quote:

Aisin automatic transmissions are manufactured by Aisin Seiki and Aisin AW, formerly known as Aisin-Warner, and which was established in 1969 as a joint venture between Aisin Seiki and BorgWarner. The joint venture terminated in 1987. While Aisin Seiki manufactures a variety of automotive components including automatic transmissions for heavy duty vehicle applications, Aisin AW manufactures automatic transmissions for light vehicle applications, including Hybrid Electric Vehicle powertrains, as well as NAV Radio.

As of 2005, Aisin AW surpassed General Motors Powertrain Division as the largest producer of automatic transmissions in the world, producing 4.9 million units, with a market share of 16.4% of the global market for automatics.[citation needed] Toyota Motor Corporation and Aisin Seiki are the two major shareholders of Aisin AW, with 51.9% and 42% respectively.[citation needed] Aisin AW, which was set up to be the sole source of RWD automatic transmissions to Toyota, subsequently developed FWD/AWD automatic transmissions. Aisin, as one of the major Toyota group suppliers, shares many designs and development activities with Toyota. See Toyota A transmission for a complete list of Toyota/Aisin models. Aisin AW supplies automatic transmissions to 35 automotive manufacturers around the world,[citation needed] virtually every major OEM. These include General Motors, Ford, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Porsche, Audi, VW, Volvo, Hyundai among others.[citation needed]

T35
T35TB/T37TB
T65/T66
Velvet Drive
450-43LE — 4-speed longitudinal
50-40LE/50-42LE — 4-speed transverse
60-40LE — 4-speed transverse
Aisin AF23 transmission — 5-speed transverse
55-50SN/RE5F22A/AF33-5 — 5-speed transverse
TF-60SN - 6-speed transverse
AW-4 (Used in XJ Jeep Cherokee and early ZJ Grand Cherokee) 4-speed longitudinal
AS68RC (2007- Dodge Ram 3500/4500/5500 Cab Chassis) 6-speed longitudinal
Aisin T-030 transmission — Hybrid Electric Planetary (Hybrid Escape)
Aisin T-031 transmission — Hybrid Electric Planetary (Hybrid Escape)
Aisin T-100 transmission — Hybrid Electric Planetary (Lexus GS450h)
Aisin B-600 transmission. 6-speed longitudinal (Hyundai Genesis 3.8)

jonathan fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Jan 21, 2010

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

WildFoxMedia posted:

6'4", 42/44 waist, size 14 feet

I guess that extra 2" makes a world of difference. I'm 6'2" and feel okay in my WJ. Either that or you have some seriously long legs. :( Sorry it didn't work out.

I've sat in a Commander in the dealer and they seem more roomy than the Grand Cherokees. I guess you should find one on a lot somewhere and try it out.

grnberet2b
Aug 12, 2008

WildFoxMedia posted:

FJ Cruiser (The looks take some getting used to)

My mom owns an FJ and totally loves it. Can't give you an evaluation of space - she's ~5'2", and I'm 5'6" (genes :argh:). I'm typically smacking my knees on the dash under the wheel when I drive it, but that's more attributed to an inherent need to avoid her rage from moving her seat at all.

Odd quirks that may not be so odd to people other than me:

Manual transmission is full-time 4WD ONLY
Reverse on the manual is left and up, not right and down

I don't mind driving her FJ on occasion, but I much prefer my TJ. When I get in the FJ, I feel pretty disconnected from the road.

Tacos Al Pastor
Jun 20, 2003

grnberet2b posted:

My mom owns an FJ and totally loves it. Can't give you an evaluation of space - she's ~5'2", and I'm 5'6" (genes :argh:). I'm typically smacking my knees on the dash under the wheel when I drive it, but that's more attributed to an inherent need to avoid her rage from moving her seat at all.

Odd quirks that may not be so odd to people other than me:

Manual transmission is full-time 4WD ONLY
Reverse on the manual is left and up, not right and down

I don't mind driving her FJ on occasion, but I much prefer my TJ. When I get in the FJ, I feel pretty disconnected from the road.

Does this mean that you can still shift to 4 high or 4 low? If not, yeah that's not cool.

The thing I didnt like about the FJ is the horrible visibility out the rear and over the hood, something that you definitely want in a 4WD vehicle.

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Veeb0rg
Jul 24, 2001

THIS CONVERSATION IS NONPRODUCTIVE!

jonathan posted:

AW4 = Aisin Warner = Borg Warner

oops, I knew it started with an A..

Veeb0rg fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jan 21, 2010

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