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RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

Killin_Like_Bronson posted:

I received this link in an email from a friend. I hope it counts, because some of the content is pretty good.

http://www.skinnymojo.com/sodahate/sodahate.php

Religious Right Wingers/Racists.

This is a gold mine I want to quote so many of these.

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VROOM VROOM: Jun 8, 2005

Murkyhumor posted:

I don't think i've seen this one posted.

"This thing that I am telling you a guy said is NOT second-hand"
Nice.

# ? Jan 18, 2010 18:02

Listerine: Jan 5, 2005; Exquisite Corpse

Not an email, but a friend recently posted a history of the Iraq invasion that included the fact that Saddam posed an immediate threat to the US after 9/11. Now I don't remember feeling that at all- I remember all the "smoking gun mushroom cloud" bullshit but I didn't buy that then, and I thought that it was pretty common knowledge now that there was no link to Al-Qaeda and Saddam had no WMDs, so I'm honestly befuddled to hear anyone at this point claim that Iraq was an "immediate threat". The only thing I can think of is that there must be some email still circulating supporting this claim. Is this sort of thing still being passed around?

# ? Jan 19, 2010 09:22

EnsGDT: Nov 9, 2004; ~boop boop beep motherfucker~

my dad posted:

Dear EnsGDT,

Your mother and I were out shopping the other day and I got arrested at the hardware store!

Your mother told me to find a black and decker.

Love,

Your father

At least my dad put his own spin on it before he forwarded it to me :smith:

# ? Jan 19, 2010 09:26

crime fighting hog: Jun 29, 2006; I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

EnsGDT posted:

At least my dad put his own spin on it before he forwarded it to me

I don't get it. Does he mean he punched a black person or am I really slow

# ? Jan 19, 2010 16:45

Vilerat: May 11, 2002

crime fighting hog posted:

I don't get it. Does he mean he punched a black person or am I really slow

It's a racial joke that is a play on words of the brand "Black and Decker" rephrased to mean "find a Black and Deck her (punch)".

It seems pretty cut/dry to me but you asked v :shobon:

# ? Jan 19, 2010 17:41

Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Listerine posted:

Not an email, but a friend recently posted a history of the Iraq invasion that included the fact that Saddam posed an immediate threat to the US after 9/11. Now I don't remember feeling that at all- I remember all the "smoking gun mushroom cloud" bullshit but I didn't buy that then, and I thought that it was pretty common knowledge now that there was no link to Al-Qaeda and Saddam had no WMDs, so I'm honestly befuddled to hear anyone at this point claim that Iraq was an "immediate threat". The only thing I can think of is that there must be some email still circulating supporting this claim. Is this sort of thing still being passed around?

I'm picturing GWB sitting at home, playing bejewelled, and every once in a while shooting off an email chain to this effect.

# ? Jan 19, 2010 18:26

Strudel Man: May 19, 2003; ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

EnsGDT posted:

At least my dad put his own spin on it before he forwarded it to me

Oh, come on, that's kind of funny. It might refer to race, but it's just a play on words, and not mean-spirited.

# ? Jan 19, 2010 19:36

crime fighting hog: Jun 29, 2006; I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

Vilerat posted:

It's a racial joke that is a play on words of the brand "Black and Decker" rephrased to mean "find a Black and Deck her (punch)".

It seems pretty cut/dry to me but you asked vv

I must need a break because that's exactly what I thought but was wondering if it was supposed to be more complex than that. I'm overthinking this poo poo

# ? Jan 19, 2010 19:55

Tesla Insanely Coil: Jul 23, 2006; Ask me why I'm not squatting.

Listerine posted:

Not an email, but a friend recently posted a history of the Iraq invasion that included the fact that Saddam posed an immediate threat to the US after 9/11. Now I don't remember feeling that at all- I remember all the "smoking gun mushroom cloud" bullshit but I didn't buy that then, and I thought that it was pretty common knowledge now that there was no link to Al-Qaeda and Saddam had no WMDs, so I'm honestly befuddled to hear anyone at this point claim that Iraq was an "immediate threat". The only thing I can think of is that there must be some email still circulating supporting this claim. Is this sort of thing still being passed around?

After positive proof came out that there was no link between Saddam, 9/11, or WMDS, a certain segment of the population became even more convinced that there was really a link. It's an interesting phenomenon though I would think that these people would've moved on to a different subject by now.

# ? Jan 21, 2010 23:37

dphrag: May 20, 2006; Ooga Booga Goo

Yeah, good old belief perseverance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief_perseverance#Persistence_of_discredited_beliefs

I always find the psych experiment where they tell people one set of information, then a week later tell them it was completely false (it was), and then a week later ask the people to answer some questions, and it always turns up that some people still believe the first thing they are told.

I think this is why religion targets the young.

# ? Jan 22, 2010 10:15

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

dphrag posted:

I think this is why religion targets the young.

You're making an assumption that the leaders of religions are pushing false information on people they KNOW is false rather than honestly believing it.

# ? Jan 22, 2010 13:56

LorneReams: Jun 27, 2003; I'm bizarre

RagnarokAngel posted:

You're making an assumption that the leaders of religions are pushing false information on people they KNOW is false rather than honestly believing it.

I think that's a fair assumption. The higher ups of any organization usually do not believe that same dogma as the underlings. At that point it becomes about power.

# ? Jan 22, 2010 14:38

dphrag: May 20, 2006; Ooga Booga Goo

RagnarokAngel posted:

You're making an assumption that the leaders of religions are pushing false information on people they KNOW is false rather than honestly believing it.

Actually, I wasn't making that assumption at all. If the top adherents do truely believe, they still want to "spread the word" most effectively by getting in before the youth are "poisoned" by other ideas.

They may not be purposefully taking advantage of belief perseverance.

# ? Jan 22, 2010 17:01

Strudel Man: May 19, 2003; ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

LorneReams posted:

I think that's a fair assumption. The higher ups of any organization usually do not believe that same dogma as the underlings. At that point it becomes about power.

Do you have any evidence supporting this being the case in religious institutions?

# ? Jan 23, 2010 04:05

Erin Esurance Waifu: Sep 28, 2006

quote:

You know it has been said there is nothing new under the sun, this is further proof! RECENT VIRGINIA CHURC H SERVICE

STIMULUS SERMON

Genesis 47:13-27

I would love to give the Pastor of this predominantly black church in
Virginia a hug and a high five. This guy is obviously a leader
Perhaps we should each decide who our
real leader is....It is amazing to see that very little has
changed in 4,000 years.
---------------------------------------------------
Good morning, brothers and sisters; it's always a delight to see
the pews crowded on Sunday morning, and so eager to get into
God's Word. Turn with me in your Bibles, if you will to the 47th
chapter of Genesis, we'll begin our reading at verse 13, and go
through verse 27.
Brother Ray, would you stand and read that great passage for us?
....(reading)....
Thank you for that fine reading, Brother Ray... So we see that
economic hard times fell upon Egypt , and the people turned to
the government of Pharaoh to deal with this for them. And Pharaoh
nationalized the grain harvest, and placed the grain in great storehouses
that he had built.

So the people brought their money to Pharaoh, like a
great tax increase, and gave it all to him willingly in return for grain. And
this went on until their money ran out, and they were hungry again.
So when they went to Pharaoh after that, they brought their
livestock -their cattle, their horses, their sheep, and their donkey -
to barter for grain, and verse 17 says that only took them through
the end of that year..

But the famine wasn't over, was it? So the next year, the people
came before Pharaoh and admitted they had nothing left, except
their land and their own lives. "There is nothing left in the sight
of my lord but our bodies and our land. Why should we die before
your eyes, both we and our land? Buy us and our land for food,
and we with our land will be servants to Pharaoh." So they
surrendered their homes, their land, and their real estate to
Pharaoh's government, and then sold themselves into slavery
to him, in return for grain.

What can we learn from this, brothers
and sisters?

That turning to the government instead of to God to be our provider
in hard times only leads to slavery? Yes. That the only reason
government wants to be our provider is to also become our master?
Yes.

But look how that passage ends, brothers and sisters! Thus Israel
settled in the land of Egypt , in the land of Goshen .. And they gained
possessions in it, and were fruitful and multiplied greatly." God
provided for His people, just as He always has! They didn't end up
giving all their possessions to government, no, it says they gained
possessions! But I also tell you a great truth today, and an ominous
one.

We see the same thing happening today - the government today
wants to "share the wealth "once again, to take it from us and redistribute
it back to us. It wants to take control of healthcare, just as it has taken
control of education, and ration it back to us, and when government
rations it, then government decides who gets it, and how much, and
what kind. And if we go along with it, and do it willingly, then we will
wind up no differently than the people of Egypt did four thousand years
ago - as slaves to the government, and as slaves to our leaders.

What Mr. Obama's government is doing now is no different from what
Pharaoh's government did then, and it will end the same. And a lot of
people like to call Mr. Obama a "Messiah," don't they? Is he a Messiah?
A savior? Didn't the Egyptians say, after Pharaoh made them his slaves,
"You have saved our lives; may it please my lord, we will be servants to Pharaoh"?
Well, I tell you this -

I know the Messiah; the Messiah is a friend of mine;
and Mr. Obama is no Messiah! No, brothers and sisters,
if Mr. Obama is a character from the Bible, then he is Pharaoh.

Bow with me in prayer, if you will.
Lord, You alone are worthy to be served, and we rely on You, and You alone.
We confess that the government is not our deliverer, and never rightly will be.
We read in the eighth chapter of 1 Samuel, when Samuel warned the people
of what a ruler would do, where it says "And in that day you will cry out
because of your king, whom you have chosen for yourselves, but
the LORD will not answer you in that day."

And Lord, we acknowledge
that day has come. We cry out to you because of the ruler that we have
chosen for ourselves as a nation. Lord, we pray for this nation. We pray
for revival, and we pray for deliverance from those who would be our masters.

Give us hearts to seek You and hands to serve You, and protect Your people
from the atrocities of Pharaoh's government.
In God We Trust...
****************************************************************
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Have a nice day.

# ? Jan 23, 2010 05:29

ducttape: Mar 1, 2008

1) Loved how it left out the fact that all the transactions were handled by Joseph, who was supposedly Gods go to guy for that generation.

2) Again, if memory serves, all that surplus came from Pharaoh instituting a heavy tax during the seven years of plenty

# ? Jan 23, 2010 05:49

Erin Esurance Waifu: Sep 28, 2006

It's basically one of the most egregious emails I have ever received and it absolutely baffles me that people even bother to make up this crap. I'm working on a refutation right now but I've almost given up hope. When the Iraq War started my mother started getting emails about a "prophecy" in the Qur'an of a eagle attacking "the land between the Tigris and the Euphrates". I whipped out my copy and showed her the surah listed in the email didn't even exist, to which she replied, "Maybe your copy is just organized differently." Not to mention the weirdness involved with a bunch of christian women talking about how the Iraq War was the fulfillment of islamic prophecy.

# ? Jan 23, 2010 05:57

Deteriorata: Feb 6, 2005

ducttape posted:

1) Loved how it left out the fact that all the transactions were handled by Joseph, who was supposedly Gods go to guy for that generation.

2) Again, if memory serves, all that surplus came from Pharaoh instituting a heavy tax during the seven years of plenty

And the idea to store the excess grain came to Joseph in a dream sent by God. The thrust of the story is that the resulting famine forced Joseph's family to seek help, were then reunited with their lost brother, and the line of the Patriarchs then could be continued.

"What you intended for evil, God used for good" is the summation of the entire story. This email is offensive at quite a number of levels.

Deteriorata fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Jan 23, 2010

# ? Jan 23, 2010 17:22

De Nomolos: Jan 17, 2007; TV rots your brain like it's crack cocaine

This link came to me via a spam address I check once every 3 months:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=UZkvkLmkYVg

I refuse to think that production quality of this caliber will win elections.

# ? Jan 23, 2010 20:22

Mornacale: Dec 19, 2007; n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates

RightHonourableHolt posted:

This link came to me via a spam address I check once every 3 months:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=UZkvkLmkYVg

I refuse to think that production quality of this caliber will win elections.

"Proud Black Conservative"

# ? Jan 23, 2010 21:04

chesh: Apr 19, 2004; That was terrible.

Wiles posted:

It's basically one of the most egregious emails I have ever received and it absolutely baffles me that people even bother to make up this crap. I'm working on a refutation right now but I've almost given up hope. When the Iraq War started my mother started getting emails about a "prophecy" in the Qur'an of a eagle attacking "the land between the Tigris and the Euphrates". I whipped out my copy and showed her the surah listed in the email didn't even exist, to which she replied, "Maybe your copy is just organized differently." Not to mention the weirdness involved with a bunch of christian women talking about how the Iraq War was the fulfillment of islamic prophecy.

I have received that e-mail before. It's pretty horrible, and was the last time my step-grandma sent anything to me, since I replied to her entire list with a snopes beatdown.

# ? Jan 23, 2010 21:35

LorneReams: Jun 27, 2003; I'm bizarre

Strudel Man posted:

Do you have any evidence supporting this being the case in religious institutions?

The best example would be the extent of the covering up for religious sex offenders.

# ? Jan 25, 2010 14:58

RUM HAM: Sep 25, 2009

About the recent SCOTUS decision:

Crazy Righty posted:

In a nutshell....

1. The constitution says no governmental limits on speech - this is aimed squarely at political speech

2. Congress already passed a bunch of laws saying that if you are a corporation and you want to back a certain candidate, you have to follow certain guidelines, which aren't really laid out clearly. This definitely CAN be worked on.... See More

3. The overall effect of the proposed legislation is, if you are a corporation and you want to run a political ad, you have to ask the government what you can and can't do, since the rules are basically whatever the federal elections committee think they should be

4. The supreme court said that this practice is unconstitutional and knocked it down

Basically, the supreme court said that the federal government can't require anyone engaging in political speech to ask for permission first.

All your bullet points can be dismissed by simply a lack of support from the other side. Votes/contributions aren't always 50/50.

I disagree w/ Newt Gingrich simply due to the fact that this would essentially steal away a persons right to keep his or her vote private.

Here's another angle to chew on.... Say they did pass this legislation & limit all businesses campaign spending/advertising... Couldn't a company such as GE (aka NBC, aka official Obama cheerleaders aka biggest beneficiary to Cap & Trade) just flex their major media muscles & spin the news to primarily 1 side to make a potential president become elected? Oh yeah, they already do that... Well then, how would you stop that? I know! We can just censor the media too so both sides get equal airtime! It's a perfect solution. All we need to do is silence the people first then do the same to the media. What can go wrong?

I don't see how university educated twenty-somethings can think this way.

# ? Jan 25, 2010 21:36

the tingler: Jul 15, 2009

Islamic law taking over Europe:

quote:

Geert Wilders is a Dutch Member of
Parliament.

In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: who lost Europe?'

Here is the speech of Geert Wilders, Chairman, Party for Freedom, the Netherlands, at the Four Seasons, New York, introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem.

Dear friends,

Thank you very much for inviting me. I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.

First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem.

The Europe you know is changing. You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.

All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.

In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.

Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore,
whore'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.

In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.

In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan.

Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World WarII. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now.

Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British
Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.

The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.

Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus.

I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies; they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.

Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.

The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission'.

Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran.
The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad,
frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia. Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

The war against Israel is not a war against Israel. It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel, Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at
night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.

Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam.

They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel, they can get everything. So-called journalists
volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'. In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60
percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a danger greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem.

Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My
generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives.
All throughout Europe, American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply do not have
the right to do so.

We have to take the necessary action now to stop this Islamic stupidity from destroying the free world that we know.
Please take the time to read and understand what
is written here, Please send it to every free person that you know, it is so very important.

# ? Jan 25, 2010 21:42

dphrag: May 20, 2006; Ooga Booga Goo

burritonegro posted:

Islamic law taking over Europe:

Geert Wilders is a Dutch Member of

Nice timing, news just came out buddy is now being prosecuted for inciting hatred and discrimination.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7842344.stm

# ? Jan 26, 2010 00:14

Zwabu: Aug 7, 2006

Someone please explain what tanks, fighter jets, and ships Middle Eastern Muslims are going to conquer and occupy the West with?

Has anyone worked a solution to this out in Age of Empire or Civilization? Does it involve creating Wonders of the World or something?

# ? Jan 26, 2010 00:57

ducttape: Mar 1, 2008

Zwabu posted:

Someone please explain what tanks, fighter jets, and ships Middle Eastern Muslims are going to conquer and occupy the West with?

Has anyone worked a solution to this out in Age of Empire or Civilization? Does it involve creating Wonders of the World or something?

THEY keep moving here, and in 50 years will outnumber US. In all that time, THEIR hatred of US and OUR WAYS will be passed down from generation to generation (despite having an inferior culture, they manage to achieve unswerving respect and loyalty from their children), until they strike, and kill all of US.

# ? Jan 26, 2010 01:57

Zwabu: Aug 7, 2006

ducttape posted:

THEY keep moving here, and in 50 years will outnumber US. In all that time, THEIR hatred of US and OUR WAYS will be passed down from generation to generation (despite having an inferior culture, they manage to achieve unswerving respect and loyalty from their children), until they strike, and kill all of US.

Diabolical and foolproof. Welp, pack it up Americailures

# ? Jan 26, 2010 02:01

Turing sex machine: Dec 14, 2008; I want to have
your robot-babies

quote:

The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.

Why the hell would Muslims be offended by the Holocaust? They were neither the victims nor the perpetrators.

# ? Jan 26, 2010 02:24

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

Turing sex machine posted:

Why the hell would Muslims be offended by the Holocaust? They were neither the victims nor the perpetrators.

The President of Iran denies the Holocaust THEREFORE all Muslims are offended by it.

# ? Jan 26, 2010 02:33

Cryosleep: Jun 6, 2003; Time's UP!

Posted by my insane right wing conservative republican family on facebook (I'm Holly):

Daniel ***** "WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Press 1 for English. Press 2 to disconnect until you learn to speak English. And remember only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, JESUS CHRIST and the AMERICAN SOLIDER. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom. If you agree... copy and paste in your status."
Sat at 6:34pm �
Gene ****** and 3 others like this.

Holly ******
WTF.
Sat at 8:21pm �

Jenifer **********
You know, all the rest of the people in the world know more than one language, often 3 or more. :-)
Yesterday at 11:59am

Gene ********
So jenifer, that means they don't need the #2 option anyway. To be sure, one of the ones they know is the one they have to use where they live...
Yesterday at 5:46pm

Holly ********
How's that xenophobia working out for ya?
Yesterday at 9:25pm �

Gene ********
Holly, Isn't Xenophobia "fear of foreigners"?

Asking immigrants, either legal or Illegal, to learn english would seem to be more of a "lack" of fear.

Historically, learning to speak English was a REQUIREMENT for immigration. Why should it be different today?

Not teaching English to immigrant children, at home or at school is child abuse IMHO... since it puts these children at a disadvantage for the rest of their lives, at least to the extent that they live in this country.
Today at 12:27am

Jenifer ***********
The only natives of this continent were the ones the US Government
stole from, forced from their homes, took away their children and
almost exterminated with guns and biological warfare (smallpox contaminated blankets).
Today at 12:35am

Gene **********
Actually Jenifer, there was no private ownership of land in this country before the settlers arrived. Territory was taken by force in wars between tribes.

And the tribes didn't live in homes, they lived in camps in what we would call today "tents". Their home was where they made camp.

There were atrocities on both sides, and it is sad. I have of course heard of the smallpox/blanket thing, it's possible that it's true... but there's zero proof of it one way or the other.
Today at 1:02am

Holly *********
I stand by my comment
7 hours ago �

Gene **********
So Holly, is Charlie Daniels, with his hit country song Press one for English, a Xenophobe as well?

Have you ever heard it?
2 hours ago

Holly *********
First of all, it appears the song you mention is by a duo called The Rivoli Revue, not Charlie Daniels, or so the internet tells me. The lyrics appear to be your typical right wing conservative blather, and the lyrics are more ethnocentric than xenophobic. Neither one of us are going to change the other one's mind regarding our cultural ideologies so...uh..never mind. You're right, yay nationalism.
10 minutes ago �

I give up.

# ? Jan 26, 2010 06:23

farraday: Jan 10, 2007; Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

If you want to argue with someone then do so. If you don't then don't, but half argue and then passive aggressively saying "whelp you win" is really just an annoyance.

If it's suddenly not worth arguing after 5 minutes it probably wasn't worth arguing in the first place. Save yourself the heart burn.

Certainly if you're going to try and argue with them you'd better have more up your sleeve than the frankly trite responses you came up with.

# ? Jan 26, 2010 06:43

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

farraday posted:

If you want to argue with someone then do so. If you don't then don't, but half argue and then passive aggressively saying "whelp you win" is really just an annoyance.

If it's suddenly not worth arguing after 5 minutes it probably wasn't worth arguing in the first place. Save yourself the heart burn.

Certainly if you're going to try and argue with them you'd better have more up your sleeve than the frankly trite responses you came up with.

Naw we've all been in that position. You're offended by the person's argument and jump in and realize right after its a waste of time. At least she bailed before it became a 40 page long back and forth of ad hominem and denial of facts.

RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Jan 26, 2010

# ? Jan 26, 2010 09:14

farraday: Jan 10, 2007; Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

RagnarokAngel posted:

Naw we've all been in that position. You're offended by the person's argument and jump in and realize right after its a waste of time. At least she bailed before it became a 40 page long back and forth of ad hominem and denial of facts.

Perhaps when talking in person and without the time to Marshall your thoughts, yes. However this is a written medium where you have time to check a fact and consider your words, which means posting your initial response as WTF followed by "hows that Xenophobia working out for you" are spectacularly ineffective at doing anything more than making people who already agree with you high five.

As a consequence you present yourself as a strawman and can not rebut even the painfully flawed arguments used against you because you simply take it as axiomatic that they're wrong and can not explain why.

# ? Jan 26, 2010 15:51

jackpot: Aug 31, 2004; First cousin to the Black Rabbit himself. Such was Woundwort's monument...and perhaps it would not have displeased him.<

Cryosleep posted:

Historically, learning to speak English was a REQUIREMENT for immigration.

Historically, no.

Cryosleep posted:

I have of course heard of the smallpox/blanket thing, it's possible that it's true... but there's zero proof of it one way or the other.

Hahaha Good God, she can't even admit that the U.S. did something bad 200 years ago.

# ? Jan 26, 2010 16:06

the: Jul 18, 2004; by Cowcaster

I have of course heard of the slavery thing, it's possible that it's true... but there's zero proof of it one way or the other.

# ? Jan 26, 2010 16:15

Dr. Tough: Oct 22, 2007

jackpot posted:

Historically, no.

Hahaha Good God, she can't even admit that the U.S. did something bad 200 years ago.

Actually that statement was true. Using biological warfare was discussed during the war, but it's not clear if it was actually used.

# ? Jan 26, 2010 16:35

Lemniscate Blue: Apr 21, 2006; Here we go again.

Cryosleep posted:

Posted by my insane right wing conservative republican family on facebook (I'm Holly):

Gene **********

And the tribes didn't live in homes, they lived in camps in what we would call today "tents". Their home was where they made camp.

Today at 1:02am

This is the part that cracks me up. That's true of some tribes, and of others during hunting season, but a huge percentage of Native Americans were agricultural stay-at-homes in one way or another. Iroquois League, anyone? Pacific Northwest fishing villages? Pueblo cities, for Pete's sake?

The only thing this guy knows about Native Americans is what he saw in old Warner Brothers cartoons.

# ? Jan 26, 2010 18:18

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Intel&Sebastian: Oct 20, 2002; colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

People should be set adrift for making a statement to the effect of "There's no evidence to support that because I've never bothered to look".

# ? Jan 26, 2010 18:29

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