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Jerusalem posted:I'm pretty sure that Chyna and Jericho had a match and later that night appeared in a Rumble as well. It was a triple threat with hardcore holly and I think he was in the Rumble too.
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Curtis of Nigeria posted:Or PORN, in the case of NWO's theme. You can do that now on DVD trading sites all over the internet. I'd never buy a season set from WWE until they figure out a way to keep all of the original music, stop censoring their product, stop taking out Benoit, and stop blurring their logo. Are they still editing blood out on old shows and beeping out swear words? If so, An anthology of ECW PPVs produced by WWE sounds like an abomination.
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Feb 2, 2010 22:05
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MassRayPer posted:Basically. He knew his window for doing MMA was closing. He also knew PRIDE was paying well in Japan and didn't want to do the WWE schedule much longer. So he left and went to Japan announced he was going to be fighting for PRIDE in a Superfight at the second show of the 2000 GP. Another question: what were people's opinion of him during his WWE tenure?
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Feb 2, 2010 22:06
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Super Ninja Fish posted:You can do that now on DVD trading sites all over the internet. I'd never buy a season set from WWE until they figure out a way to keep all of the original music, stop censoring their product, stop taking out Benoit, and stop blurring their logo. Are they still editing blood out on old shows and beeping out swear words? If so, An anthology of ECW PPVs produced by WWE sounds like an abomination. They just recently stopped editing Benoit out of matches and documentaries(as of 2008 I think) and they now only censor the Attitude logo, the other, older WWF logos remain uncensored. I had no idea they edited blood out though, on what sets? I have the HiaC set and ECW's most violent matches DVD and they're both pretty graphic and uncut. Alright, here's a nagging question I've had for a while related to all of this: The lawsuit between the WWE and the WWF for use of the name "WWF"... why/how did Vince not win it?
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Feb 2, 2010 22:26
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LightsGameraAction posted:They just recently stopped editing Benoit out of matches and documentaries(as of 2008 I think) and they now only censor the Attitude logo, the other, older WWF logos remain uncensored. Part of the agreement between Vince and the World Wildlife Fund was that European marketing would use the full World Wrestling Federation name instead of just the WWF. When the Attitude Era hit and Vince started using WWF a lot more (especially with wwf.com), the World Wildlife Fund hit them with a lawsuit as it violated the agreement.
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Feb 2, 2010 22:37
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AsInHowe posted:Part of the agreement between Vince and the World Wildlife Fund was that European marketing would use the full World Wrestling Federation name instead of just the WWF. When the Attitude Era hit and Vince started using WWF a lot more (especially with wwf.com), the World Wildlife Fund hit them with a lawsuit as it violated the agreement. No, it was that they agreed that wrestling could keep the old block style WWF logo and couldn't change it. They changed it to the scratch logo and lost the lawsuit over the use of WWF, but only outside of the US. They changed the company's name to make everything easier.
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Feb 2, 2010 22:40
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Karmine posted:It was a triple threat with hardcore holly and I think he was in the Rumble too. That was 2000, The New Age Outlaws and The Acolytes were in the Rumble after a tag title match as well.
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Feb 2, 2010 22:46
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Bearnt! posted:With Miz & MVP facing each other at the Rumble and then each being in the actual Rumble match itself it got me thinking what other times has this happened? In 2007, there was a Hardys vs MNM tag match to start the show, and then later on, both the Hardys and Johnny Nitro were in the Rumble match.
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Feb 2, 2010 22:48
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ColeM posted:Another question: what were people's opinion of him during his WWE tenure? Decent to good inside the ring. Awkward with promos, to put it mildly. Seemed to have a genetic predisposition to internal bleeding. Had a Botchamania moment with his kayfabe sister. Seemed more comfortable as a heel than as a face.
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Feb 2, 2010 23:00
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LightsGameraAction posted:They just recently stopped editing Benoit out of matches and documentaries(as of 2008 I think) and they now only censor the Attitude logo, the other, older WWF logos remain uncensored. I've heard that they were turning all shots of blood black and white for the 24/7 channel. I don't know if they done it yet with any DVD releases. I especially remember reading that they did it to the Austin/Rock match from Wrestlemania X7 because that sounded particularly awful. http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?showtopic=94528&st=30
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At the Royal Rumble, what was the music Layla/Piggy James came out to? I've heard it before but I don't know where from.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Foley has also said that his Cactus Jack theme in WWF was a porno theme. I saw that. Or at least something pornographic with his WWF theme, if not necessarily the one he saw. Ruined the mood but inspired me to kill the time allotted with his match vs. Sting at Beach Blast.
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reality_groove posted:At the Royal Rumble, what was the music Layla/Piggy James came out to? I've heard it before but I don't know where from. It was the same music they used for Fake Rosie.
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Feb 3, 2010 00:35
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Bearnt! posted:Also when was the last time Raw got bumped for the Westminster Dog Show/Tennis/something else? And why did they do this in the first place when Raw is the longest running weekly episodic show in history!
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Feb 3, 2010 01:16
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LividLiquid posted:Contractual obligations. Now when it happens, Raw just moves to Sci-Fi for the night. And Raw isn't the longest running weekly episodic show. That's just a lie they tell themselves and advertisers. What is?
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oldpainless posted:What is? Saturday Night Live? It really depends on the definition of "episodic television program" I guess, Meet The Press wouldn't really count.
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Jerusalem posted:Saturday Night Live? in repeats for half the year, so not sure if it counts. RAW puts on original programming almost all weeks.
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Lamuella posted:in repeats for half the year, so not sure if it counts. RAW puts on original programming almost all weeks. Yeah but the descriptor is "longest running" not "most original content".
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the descriptor's also "weekly". If something is in repeats, does it count as "weekly" any more?
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Super Ninja Fish posted:I've heard that they were turning all shots of blood black and white for the 24/7 channel. I don't know if they done it yet with any DVD releases. This is changing, because Rock / Austin at X7 is the #1 match of the decade on this month's 10 Count segment on 24/7, and it's shown in all its crimson glory. (In contrast to a year or so ago, when X7 itself was on 24/7, when every other shot was in B&W.)
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Jerusalem posted:Saturday Night Live? They use some description that is basically fiction, while at the same time trying to not say that wrestling is fake.
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How is Mizanin pronounced?
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Lamuella posted:the descriptor's also "weekly". If something is in repeats, does it count as "weekly" any more? Episodes are on weekly whether they are repeats or not, the descriptor doesn't say,"Longest running year round weekly new episodic television show," because by that point they might as well start calling it,"Longest running year round weekly new episodic television show called Raw that features numerous professional wrestling matches involving different wrestlers from pre-existing scripted feuds, plots, and storylines in which wrestlers portray a villain or a hero as they follow a series of events that build tension, and culminate into a wrestling match or series of matches."
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Feb 3, 2010 02:10
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Jerusalem posted:Episodes are on weekly whether they are repeats or not, the descriptor doesn't say,"Longest running year round weekly new episodic television show," because by that point they might as well start calling it,"Longest running year round weekly new episodic television show called Raw that features numerous professional wrestling matches involving different wrestlers from pre-existing scripted feuds, plots, and storylines in which wrestlers portray a villain or a hero as they follow a series of events that build tension, and culminate into a wrestling match or series of matches." SNL isn't episodic because there is no continuity between shows. I believe WWE is using this definition of episode: "one of a number of loosely connected, but usually thematically related, scenes or stories constituting a literary work."
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Feb 3, 2010 02:11
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Jerusalem posted:Episodes are on weekly whether they are repeats or not, the descriptor doesn't say,"Longest running year round weekly new episodic television show," because by that point they might as well start calling it,"Longest running year round weekly new episodic television show called Raw that features numerous professional wrestling matches involving different wrestlers from pre-existing scripted feuds, plots, and storylines in which wrestlers portray a villain or a hero as they follow a series of events that build tension, and culminate into a wrestling match or series of matches." Pretty sure they just go with "episodic" to mean "plotlines continuing from week to week," thus putting it in a category separate from, say, Meet The Press or Dateline or The Tonight Show. Also, gently caress, beaten.
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DannoMack posted:How is Mizanin pronounced? I've always figured it to be "MIZ-uh-nin."
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DannoMack posted:How is Mizanin pronounced? Miz-anne-in
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Rusty Shackelford posted:SNL isn't episodic because there is no continuity between shows. I believe WWE is using this definition of episode: In that case, I guess that it really is America's longest running weekly episodic television show.
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Jerusalem posted:In that case, I guess that it really is America's longest running weekly episodic television show. Not really, Wrestling at the Chase lasted much longer than Raw.
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MassRayPer posted:Not really, Wrestling at the Chase lasted much longer than Raw. but was it weekly and/or episodic?
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oldpainless posted:What is? Or if you wan't something more comparable? WCW Saturday Night.
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dusty udder smoker posted:but was it weekly and/or episodic? Meet the Press has been on since 1947. Though, not really episodic I guess it is the longest running TV show.
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LividLiquid posted:Gunsmoke. WCW Saturday Night is hard to count since it changed forms so many times and changed names. But even now there are shows that have been on the air longer than Raw in Law and Order and the Simpsons, and wrestling shows the world over that were on longer, AJPW on NTV, Wrestling at the Chase, etc.
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I think they disregard things like The Simpsons and Law & Order, as those only run between 22 - 24 episodes per year. It doesn't make the Did You Know crap any less disingenuous, however.
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Feb 3, 2010 02:59
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Vince just wants a really fancy way to say "RAW has been on TV for a really loving long time. Longer than Nitro, Thunder, ECW on TNN, and Impact. Go gently caress yourselves! I'm Vince McMahon, dammit!"
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CVagts posted:Vince just wants a really fancy way to say "RAW has been on TV for a really loving long time. Longer than Nitro, Thunder, ECW on TNN, and Impact. Go gently caress yourselves! I'm Vince McMahon, dammit!" That was what Vince wrote for the Did You Know card but some egghead in marketing changed it.
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Did you know: WWE Raw is the longest WWE Raw in history?
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What was the reasoning for listing Raw and War Zone as separate shows?
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TL posted:What was the reasoning for listing Raw and War Zone as separate shows? It's to distinguish each hour in ratings. The first hour would be "raw is war" or whatever it is then the second hour would be "war zone".
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TL posted:What was the reasoning for listing Raw and War Zone as separate shows? they were able to have advertisers pay more for the 2nd hour when the big stars were on the show.
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