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Wouldn't Vampiro burst into flames, being a vampire and all? And I really don't think that holy water would do much for the two dudes in grease makeup, either. Oh wait, WCW
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 08:42 |
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Gavok posted:Speaking of Vampiro, I seem to recall a plan to do a PPV on December 31, 1999 called New Year's Evil that would have featured the Demon dropping Vampiro and ICP into a pool of holy water, which would have turned them face. They should have made it a pool of sanctified Faygo.
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 08:48 |
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I think they were going to give away a million dollars at that show too
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 09:15 |
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Gavok posted:the Demon Speaking of stupid WCW stuff... They barely used The Demon, and I'm pretty sure they spent a shitload of money on his costume/entrance attire (didn't he have some kind of coffin he came out of or something?), which was part of a contract with KISS, which I'm sure was also a shitload of money. You would have thought they'd try to get some mileage out of him, but if I remember right, at the time they were pretty much only using him because KISS's contract forced them to.
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 13:07 |
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Suben posted:I really have no clue why but at the time Vampiro was one of my favorite guys. I think it was mainly a combination of the corpse paint, using the Michinoku Driver and his awesome theme. It's sad. I still have my CAW of Vampiro on my copy of Wrestlemania 2000. X-Sgt. Zypygski posted:*Regarding Demon:*
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 14:01 |
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LightsGameraAction posted:They should have made it a pool of sanctified Faygo.
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 14:05 |
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god, I'd forgotten about ICP. It says an awful lot, and nothing good, that Insane Clown Posse managed to wrestle for each of the big 3 companies.
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 14:17 |
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Lamuella posted:god, I'd forgotten about ICP. It says an awful lot, and nothing good, that Insane Clown Posse managed to wrestle for each of the big 3 companies. And TNA, and ROH, and have their own promotion. How the hell does that happen?
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 14:22 |
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They're giant wrestling nerds who had infamy among the same target audience of the Attitude Era and work cheap! And their sins in the wrestling world are forgiven because of Strangle-Mania.
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 15:28 |
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Oh god. That cage match was probably the worst match I've ever seen. It was worse than Nowitski/Gayda vs. Bradshaw/Trish. It was worse than any reverse battle royale that TNA has ever had. It was worse than Giant Gonzalez vs. Undertaker. Dr. Death CHECKS the door to see if it will open by swinging it wide open, then he walks all the way to the other side of the ring to throw Jerry Only through the ring. The camera work is absolutely hideous, as is the announcing. Nobody is excited about the finish of the match at all, much less a non-wrestling celebrity beating Steve Williams.
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 16:03 |
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"Throughout the show, they (the NWO) were torturing Bret Hart. Nash was torturing Hart and in the background you could hear the director wrapping up the scene. The final scene saw Hart coming out with a pipe while covered in makeup to make it appear he'd been beaten up on. It was the same makeup they used for Arn Anderson, totally exposing that angle. Hart challenged the NWO guys to come out. Nash & Jarrett came out with bats. Then it got really silly. Hart was in a stand-off with Nash and Jarrett forever because Funk & Anderson arrived so late. Apparently live it was obvious Hart & Nash were having a hard time not laughing because the timing was so screwed up. Funk came out with a flaming branding iron and Anderson with a bucket of water. Anderson threw the bucket of water on Hart, with the idea that the makeup would run. The makeup didn't run, but the announcers had to sell that it did." - The Wrestling Observer Newsletter: January 24, 2000. That has to be my favorite quote from the link in the OP. The absurdity of that paragraph is astounding. Wrestling in the 90's gave us some of the best television and the worst.
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 16:45 |
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LividLiquid posted:He was one of my faves at the time, too. Sadly, I would go on to learn what a loving douchebag the guy is. He earned himself something of a primadonna reputation, then I read Jericho's book and pretty much lost the last shred of respect I had for the dude. Well, he was incredibly (maybe still is?) popular in Mexico so he probably figured he could act like he was a bigshot in WCW.
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 18:43 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2ze0BGU3q8&feature=related Important points of note here: After realizing someone is legitimately hurt, rookie Mark Jindrak immediately goes for the pin to stop the match. Rey Mysterio continues to wrestle. After the bell sounds, Sanders and O'Haire continue to stand in the corner while Jindrak is getting beat up on, like a glitched video game. Mark Madden is awful Edit: I retract my complaints once I realized that it was an elimination match. The WTF factor remains. KitsonGT fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Feb 3, 2010 |
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MrBling posted:Well, he was incredibly (maybe still is?) popular in Mexico so he probably figured he could act like he was a bigshot in WCW. Maybe so. From what I heard, he was much better behaved in WSX.
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KitsonGT posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2ze0BGU3q8&feature=related The next night the match was restarted on Nitro at the point it finished. The reason for this was the finish had been written to get one wrestler specifically over and they felt that it must be aired somehow. The wrestler? Tygress
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# ? Feb 3, 2010 23:43 |
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I can't believe it took everyone involved so long to realize that Orndorff was hurt and for the match to be stopped. That's not normal "WCW is dumb" stuff, that's how the gently caress are you a wrestler material. For reference, here's the DDT Digest coverage of the event, which (I think) was live. http://ddtdigest.com/updates/2000093p.htm
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 00:41 |
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Rodney the Piper posted:
"ddtdigest posted:Douglas says Kidman will join Orndorff in the hospital.
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 01:39 |
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Von Dozier posted:Shane Douglas and "classy" don't belong in the same sentence. *resists making Dean Douglas joke*
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 02:00 |
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I guess you could say Douglas managed to be on Target with that joke
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 03:44 |
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I've made Target jokes too, and I still find them funny, but it's kind of a shame that we laugh at people who move on with their lives after wrestling.
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 05:26 |
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LividLiquid posted:I've made Target jokes too, and I still find them funny, but it's kind of a shame that we laugh at people who move on with their lives after wrestling. Shane Douglas spotted
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 05:40 |
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gently caress YOU, FLAIR! I COULD'VE BEEN BIGGER THAN THE ROCK!
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 05:55 |
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Guys I was supposed to go to bed two hours ago and have been up reading the OP and then that link to the funny WON quotes. Sorry I'm sure this has been expressed a million times and I will read the entire thread tomorrow, but I just had to say right now this WON link might seriously be the hardest I've ever laughed in my entire life. Several times I have been loving crying here.
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 10:00 |
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MyStereoHasMono posted:Guys I was supposed to go to bed two hours ago and have been up reading the OP and then that link to the funny WON quotes. I've been debating posting this since it is so large, but it is now posted online and maybe seeing Dave tear apart WCW can get a few more people to subscribe. Here is his review of Halloween Havoc 92 which was hilarious and kind of sad at the same time. If people enjoy this stuff, SUBSCRIBE! It is 9.99 per month for the Observer, Figure 4 Weekly, tons of audio shows, a huge archive of audio, a huge archive of Figure 4 Weekly newsletters, an archive of 4 years of Observers, and a back issue from 92 (going into 1993 with the debut of Raw) every week. https://www.f4wonline.com ~! Dave Meltzer's Wrestling Observer Newsletter posted:WCW is in a state of systematic destruction. Real wrestling talent is being exchanged with talent that doesn't have the experience or seasoning, or in some cases, even the talent, to hang in a major league operation. It doesn't appear to be a concern as long as the new talent seems willing to work cheaper than the experienced talent, or simply has a relative in high places. Even that wouldn't necessarily be so bad if the company was going on course with a viable new direction and needed fresh new talent and had the leadership that will teach and groom the newcomers into being legitimate talent. Unfortunately, that also isn't the case. The "old stale" talent gets more response than the "fresh new" talent. In 1993, WCW looks to be falling to the level of the last few years of the AWA, both in terms of talent, product quality and overall interest. This note in particular cracked me up. quote:A fan at ringside was wearing a WBF tank top when the show started, but the shirt mysteriously turned into a WCW crew shirt. Good to see paranoia about clothing being worn by fans isn't limited to those at Titan Sports.
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 10:09 |
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quote:Austin is technically and athletically very good but his weakness when it comes to charisma was apparent in such a long match. Dave Meltzer everyone!
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 14:03 |
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That's hilarious.
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 14:24 |
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I was watching The Rise and Fall of WCW, and Goldberg said he found out about his championship match with Hogan when he was watching the episode of Thunder that was on a few days before that Nitro. Goldberg was saying how they should've build the feud, and gotten a huge PPV number. But that was Bischoff for you, always wanting to make sure that Nitro beat Raw in the ratings for one week.
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 16:12 |
The Hogan/Goldberg match was always intended to be a dark match for the crowd in attendance. Various sources have said that the idea was pitched by Hogan as a means to show him as the top draw of the company at one of their biggest gates and also to get him over as a company man who was willing to put over Goldberg, all be it in a manner not shown on TV. About a week before the Georgia Dome match Bischoff made the decision to make the match the focus of the show. In his book he says that that nitro was more important than any PPV because of the number of Turner executives that would be in attendence so he wanted it to have the feel of being the biggest card of the year. When Hogan found out he was unhappy, but had already pledged to put Goldberg over in a non title match. So this was one occasion where it looked like someone had out played him at the political game. It's rumoured that he had the final laugh as he managed to get a verbal agreement that when the time came for someone to end the streak it would be him. How true this was is anyones guess as when it came down to it the Streak was ended by Kevin Nash who was the biggest backstage rival of Hogan. The event drew a big gate. Nitro won the ratings battle. Goldberg went over both Scott Hall and Hogan in the same night giving him the world title. All was well. However from that point on Goldberg and the world title was booked as an afterthought to the big story of the NWO break up. His title defences rarely went on last and he was actually given a number of PPV's off. The ratings boost of that weeks show faded away by the next week. More importantly looking back at ticket sales for that show, there was no reason to make the match a world title match. A week before the show even happened it was sold out. Bischoff retcons this as saying that sales had stagnated and that the title match helped put attendance over the edge. Of course ticket sales had stagnated: there were no more tickets to sell. The show drew good ratings but as many commentators have pointed out there was lost revenue from the potential of a PPV match between Goldberg and Hogan. Considering the two never met in any match on PPV it can only be seen as a missed opportunity.
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 16:38 |
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I've always ranked hogan/goldberg along with hogan/Austin as the two biggest ppv moneymakers that could have been done in a company but never were. At least in the last decade or so
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FishBulb posted:Dave Meltzer everyone! Oh come on, you can't blame him. Austin was bland as gently caress back then.
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 17:59 |
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oldpainless posted:I've always ranked hogan/goldberg along with hogan/Austin as the two biggest ppv moneymakers that could have been done in a company but never were. At least in the last decade or so This is probably true, but Hogan/Austin was discussed at one point and allegedly neither man wanted to job to the other (Hogan because he doesn't job for anybody, and Austin probably because Hogan poo poo all over him in WCW).
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 18:03 |
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Pneub posted:Oh come on, you can't blame him. Austin was bland as gently caress back then. don't be mean to poor Dave Meltzer! It's a funny quote now with the the lense of history to look at it through...
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 18:06 |
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I don't think Hogan and Austin could work a good match, although I -would- like to see Austin kick the poo poo out of Hogan. They're really emblems of two different eras and seeing Austin hit by the big boot, I imagine he'd laugh, crack a beer and open a can of whup-rear end. IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMNIT!
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Golden Bee posted:I don't think Hogan and Austin could work a good match, although I -would- like to see Austin kick the poo poo out of Hogan. They're really emblems of two different eras and seeing Austin hit by the big boot, I imagine he'd laugh, crack a beer and open a can of whup-rear end. And then Cena Attitude Adjust's the icon of the Attitude Era. RAPADOO FUCKER!
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 20:26 |
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oldpainless posted:I've always ranked hogan/goldberg along with hogan/Austin as the two biggest ppv moneymakers that could have been done in a company but never were. At least in the last decade or so What's the constant in both those scenarios, BROTHER? TNA is sitting on a goldmine, JACK! Hogan/Hogan, biggest moneymaker of all-time, DUDE!
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 20:37 |
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FishBulb posted:don't be mean to poor Dave Meltzer! Lot's of good stuff in F4W back issues.
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# ? Feb 4, 2010 21:06 |
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FishBulb posted:don't be mean to poor Dave Meltzer! So you... thought Stunning Steve was charismatic?
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# ? Feb 5, 2010 00:50 |
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Pneub posted:So you... thought Stunning Steve was charismatic? In promos and skits, and certain matches I would say he was. But definitely not all the time, and Pillman definitely brought more of the charisma when they teamed.
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# ? Feb 5, 2010 01:16 |
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Pneub posted:So you... thought Stunning Steve was charismatic? He was no Ringmaster.
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# ? Feb 5, 2010 01:21 |
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Pneub posted:So you... thought Stunning Steve was charismatic? don't be mean to poor Dave Meltzer! It's a funny quote now with the the lense of history to look at it through... If it was Scott Keith or something you wouldn't even take a second to bag on the quote, its a funny quote. FishBulb fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Feb 5, 2010 |
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