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My new job gives me hardly any free time to practice modeling, working at a proper studio sucks  Here's what I'm working on at the moment, I was in a barren patch of inspiration so I thought I'd have a go at the old CG standby. I guess I'm trying to do it less of a cliche way but yes, it's the most unoriginal thing ever to model. Sue me. Everything is WIP, the legs are a bit wacky now that I look at it 
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Dude that totally rocks as always. Where dis you learn anatomy I really want to get better at it!
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Jan 30, 2010 09:24
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brian encino man posted:Dude that totally rocks as always. Where dis you learn anatomy I really want to get better at it! What he said! sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Jan 30, 2010 |
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Here's something I've been working on for the past couple days. We're (hopefully) going to be providing some frames to this guy that buys islands and builds/rents villas out for obscene amounts of money, in the $4500 USD/night 3 night minimum range. Lots of modeling left, and a proper water shader with some interaction with the sand, but it's moving along. Finally made a displacement map out of modeled stone masonry, works a lot quicker than the old rocks & blobmesh overkill. Click here for the full 1200x640 image. edit: Thanks for ruining the page with a first reply masterpiece, eoin you jerk. One thing that has always bothered me about orc models is the cleanliness of the navel tie. I've always imagined they, as a primitive race, wouldn't have the most skillfully done belly buttons. Nitpicky, I know, but really I have nothing else to complain about, looks great! Handiklap fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Jan 30, 2010 |
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Jan 30, 2010 14:40
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Handiklap posted:Here's something I've been working on for the past couple days. I'm trying to not give you comments on poo poo you're already planning to do, but really spend some time on the water/beach interaction (use a camera projected image which you made in photoshop if you have to) because thats going to make or break the image. It's got potential to be an awesome image.
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Jan 30, 2010 15:34
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cubicle gangster posted:I'm trying to not give you comments on poo poo you're already planning to do, but really spend some time on the water/beach interaction (use a camera projected image which you made in photoshop if you have to) because thats going to make or break the image. No, by all means. Reinforcement of plans is just the same to me. It's a bit tough being the only 3d guy at a company, with everyone drooling over your rushed, admittedly half-baked attempts at visualization. Hard to get a feel for what's really working and what's just "oh wow a 3d tree! It's got leaves and everything, totally cool, handiklap". I'm going to grade and smooth that slope a bit more, and the water will be modeled with the leading edge rolling over and foaming. A few well-placed falloffs on the sand for diffuse and reflection/glossiness and it should be a lot more convincing.
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Jan 30, 2010 15:55
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Handiklap posted:Here's something I've been working on for the past couple days. We're (hopefully) going to be providing some frames to this guy that buys islands and builds/rents villas out for obscene amounts of money, in the $4500 USD/night 3 night minimum range. Lots of modeling left, and a proper water shader with some interaction with the sand, but it's moving along. Finally made a displacement map out of modeled stone masonry, works a lot quicker than the old rocks & blobmesh overkill. I know next to nothing about 3d and your job, but can I ask what's going on int he sky? It look like a black version of the northern lights, only pixely and in a tropical island. Maybe I just don't know what its supposed to be, but for me thats really distracting when looking at the image.
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Jan 30, 2010 23:59
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That would be a lighting or reflection environment image I'm guessing. The final sky will be comped in or replaced at a later time. Brian Encino Man: Anatomy is about observation and learning the purpose of each muscle group and how it relates to bone structures and fatty areas that lie underneath/on top of it. I've just picked it up by practicing and making a lot of lovely models. If you go back through this thread you'll probably find some pretty ordinary anatomy by me. It's something you never finish learning though, like everything 
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Jan 31, 2010 01:10
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Pretty amazing sculpt Eoin.
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Jan 31, 2010 01:32
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EoinCannon posted:cliche Cliches are awesome when done well, your's is awesome. On the other hand I spent a few hours the other day rigging a dogs junk. Good times.
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Jan 31, 2010 01:45
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Well, I haven't posted in this thread in approximately 6000 years. Glad to be back! Here's a model I'm working on in Max, made for a short film. It's not textured yet -- that's what I'm hoping to do today. Animating the drat thing turned out to be a huge bitch, since I couldn't quite get an IK solution working. I ended up using Reactor.  Feedback would be much appreciated!
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Jan 31, 2010 03:24
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drat, I've forgotten how long it takes to texture something nicely. Granted I've been following a tutorial on hard surface texturing to try and get some better-looking results than usual though. I've textured the counterweights for the meantime:  There are pretty much only wide shots of this thing which is why I'm not putting in a huge amount of detail in those little crevice bits. I'd be keen on trying something procedural to help it along though. UVW unwrap is not one of my strengths so I'm learning with this one as I go. 
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Jan 31, 2010 12:50
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It looks nice so far. Sometimes you've just got to spend the time with texturing to get it looking good. You could reuse textures and use procedurals on lots of the little bits to speed it up I reckon.
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Jan 31, 2010 21:39
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EoinCannon posted:It looks nice so far. Sometimes you've just got to spend the time with texturing to get it looking good. You could reuse textures and use procedurals on lots of the little bits to speed it up I reckon. Thanks! Yeah, that seems wise to me. When I get some downtime in the next couple of days I'm gonna do quick renders for each shot to figure out how much detail is required, and then do the rest of the texturing accordingly. A friend of mine was telling me that in this music video they used procedurals for everything except for little details that got close to camera. In a way the VFX in it is a little bit dated, but other than that I guess it works.
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Feb 1, 2010 05:07
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Could someone tell me if it's possible to render only an Ambient Occlusion pass out of Cinema 4D? Like without it having to render all the other shaders and stuff.
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Feb 1, 2010 23:20
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FLX posted:Could someone tell me if it's possible to render only an Ambient Occlusion pass out of Cinema 4D? Like without it having to render all the other shaders and stuff. I have absolutely zero experience with C4D, but in a lot of other applications there's a rendering option for an override material, which would be applied to all objects at render time, without the need to assign it manually or reassign materials afterwards.
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Feb 2, 2010 03:59
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Speaking of C4D, are there any really good tutorials out there for this thing? I can find a lot of tool-specific stuff, but no project tutorials(modeling a character from scratch, etc). I already know how to model and render and all the other good stuff in Maya and Max, I just like learning a new program with a really comprehensive tutorial that helps me find all the tools I know by heart in other apps. C4D is actually pretty fun to use compared to most other 3D programs and I want to get into it deeper.
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Feb 2, 2010 05:25
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Sigma-X posted:Retopo after making a high-res sculpt is the way pretty much everyone does it, especially for characters. I have one question- after looking at some tutorials and such online, as I understand it, the workflow is: 1) Model base mesh 2) Import into sculpting program, sculpt high res details 3) Make retopologized mesh with proper edge flow etc. 4) Apply displacement map calculated from high res mesh and original model to retopologized model How do you ensure that the displacement map will be correctly applied? I imagine that the retopologized mesh will not have the same UVs as the original model which was used to generate the displacement map, so how do you ensure that everything lines up properly? For instance in this video by Wayne Robson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP9_frQw5Dw He applies the displacement map to the retopologized mesh and then has to fix some errors with the displacement. I imagine after he generates a new, accurate map for use with the retopologized mesh during rendering. In his video the displacement map applies pretty nicely despite having to do a few fixes, but I imagine that that wouldn't necessarily be the case every time depending on how much the model changes between the base mesh and the retopo, and I think that I'm missing a step. Thanks in advance for any info.
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You make UVs for the retopologized mesh, then caculate the normal map or displacement map from the difference between that and the sculpt. Xnormal is a good tool for this but I think Topogun also generates normal maps too. sigma 6 fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Feb 3, 2010 |
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I've been doing some slapcomps with the still-not-finished derrick to see how it's looking with the footage: Hmmm. I think this is gonna be a pretty big job. I'll need to do a better shadow pass too. Part of the challenge is that a lot of my footage alternates between overcast and sunny weather (in fact the plate for the shot above was very sunny with a blue sky & hard shadows) so I'm gonna grade everything to look overcast and then do the CG from there, I guess. And yeah, I know it's a totally unlikely place for an oil derrick to be, but that's part of the idea 
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Feb 3, 2010 18:52
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schmuckfeatures posted: I'm happy to find out the background is a plate. I was about to be pissed that you beat me to the punch posting an ocean/foam shader. Still needs some work, but I'm pretty happy with it so far. 
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schmuckfeatures posted:I've been doing some slapcomps with the still-not-finished derrick to see how it's looking with the footage: To my completely trained eye, this looks near photo-realistic, and I imagine you'll fix that parts later that stood out to me (the black space beneath the derrick for one, I would think it would have been filled with sand at some point).
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Handiklap posted:
Nice, that looks pretty good. I'm hoping I won't have to make any CG ocean or foam -- I tried to get enough plates so that I'd be able to do the ocean entirely through compositing, since water tends to be such a bitch to do convincingly. quote:To my completely trained eye, this looks near photo-realistic, and I imagine you'll fix that parts later that stood out to me (the black space beneath the derrick for one, I would think it would have been filled with sand at some point). Thanks dude. Yeah, the shadows definitely need work and that little recessed area underneath the derrick has definitely gotta go. Gonna do some more work at this over the weekend.
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I finally got myself Zbrush, so I thought I'd open it up and give it a whirl. I ended up creating this thing:   I'm pretty proud since this is the first time I've ever done anything like this, and I've never even been able to draw either. Edit:   Petey Piranha anyone? Jewel fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Feb 6, 2010 |
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Feb 6, 2010 03:43
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I started zbrush just recently too, this is my 4th or so try with messing around in the program. I really enjoy it so far. His lips are a little weird, but I like how it came out. me trying to fiddle with the textures :I 
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Feb 7, 2010 08:24
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Does anyone know anywhere in the UK that could build a 3D model from a 3D file? Probably with a 5 axis mill or similar? I have to build something for my final year project and places are after £20k and stupid poo poo. Any goons in the industry? Could really do with some help here.
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Feb 8, 2010 00:31
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Your best option is to have it printed in plastic. Prices range anywhere from $20-$50/square inch. Just search around for "3D Printer Service" or if there's a major art school in the area sometimes the students have access to them and you can pay them a little less.
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Feb 8, 2010 02:55
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A5H posted:Does anyone know anywhere in the UK that could build a 3D model from a 3D file? Probably with a 5 axis mill or similar? Teesside University up here in Boro have a 3d printer. Only problem is the price rises stupidly quickly the bigger your model gets and you can't seem to have colour unless you want to pay thousands. Incidentally, my newest folio piece.  Click here for the full 1224x950 image.
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Are the gears just straight normal mapped or did you bake just an AO pass onto it? They look like they're all molded together which doesn't look right. I would add some color variation and mess with the specular to make the gears more anistropic looking. It almost looks self illuminated and if you're going for that kind of look you may as well paint in the gears to give them more of a layered effect.
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Aliginge posted:
TaDaa! an 841 polygon low poly cube!
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I like the colours and the render and everything, but can we get a wireframe? I think that looks way too high poly for what it is, especially considering you're using a normal map. Also a 2048 texture seems a little excessive. Don't worry these are always the same issues everyone starting out has, but let's try and get it a bit more efficient.
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ceebee posted:Are the gears just straight normal mapped or did you bake just an AO pass onto it? They look like they're all molded together which doesn't look right. I would add some color variation and mess with the specular to make the gears more anistropic looking. It almost looks self illuminated and if you're going for that kind of look you may as well paint in the gears to give them more of a layered effect. Normal mapped with AO and a few modelled gears for some extra depth. Since the extra depth isn't really showing I may as well remove those modelled gears and stick with just a normalled surface then.  brian encino man posted:I like the colours and the render and everything, but can we get a wireframe? I think that looks way too high poly for what it is, especially considering you're using a normal map. Also a 2048 texture seems a little excessive. Don't worry these are always the same issues everyone starting out has, but let's try and get it a bit more efficient.
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Feb 8, 2010 13:02
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ceebee posted:Your best option is to have it printed in plastic. Prices range anywhere from $20-$50/square inch. Just search around for "3D Printer Service" or if there's a major art school in the area sometimes the students have access to them and you can pay them a little less. Yeah I don't think this would be feasible for the size I'm looking at. I have to do a car in about 1/4 scale. So just about a metre in length. My uni have a 3D mill, but only 10 people a year can use it, and since I don't know any of the technicians, I missed out on getting to do it that way. Also Aliginge, I'm from Boro, how strange. Doing a auto design degree down in Coventry though.
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vray distributed rendering is awesome. seeing a frame buffer with 60-something buckets in it is a thing of beauty.
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A5H posted:Yeah I don't think this would be feasible for the size I'm looking at. I have to do a car in about 1/4 scale. So just about a metre in length. You have to, and the uni wont provide it? Thats really loving weird, they cant expect to throw something like that down and expect you to cough up a 20k bill in your final year. At that size, it wont be cheap anywhere. Have you spoke to the higher ups? only letting 10 people use a machine each year which is essential for a final project is a total joke, you need to bring that up. cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Feb 8, 2010 |
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cubicle gangster posted:You have to, and the uni wont provide it? Thats really loving weird, they cant expect to throw something like that down and expect you to cough up a 20k bill in your final year. At that size, it wont be cheap anywhere. They just say that if I can't afford it I should just work in clay instead. It seems unfair, but that's life I guess. Some people that did placements at Jaguar and the like just have the company they worked for build it. It also blows my mind that there are students that cough up 20k for a model. What the hell.
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Aliginge posted:Teesside University up here in Boro have a 3d printer. Only problem is the price rises stupidly quickly the bigger your model gets and you can't seem to have colour unless you want to pay thousands. Your screen doesn't look to be of laptop proportions (16:10 or whatever, it looks closer to 11:10 or something). All the gears on the top are the same material, spotless, and otherwise completely undifferentiated. Make them subtly different shades, or altogether different materials, or at least cut and paste each gear out and rotate the "kind of not really brass" material you're using so the fine details don't all go in the same direction. Overall your textures look rather blurry for 2048x2048. Run a sharpen filter over it at the very least. and yeah, 841 tris is an awful lot for something that is nearly a perfect box. Even with the feet and the wood bars on the top I can't see this getting that high.
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A5H posted:It also blows my mind that there are students that cough up 20k for a model. What the hell. And I thought the couple hundred my old college use to require students to spend to professionally bind a large artbook/portfolio of their work for graduation was ridiculous. No offense or anything but usually the models you make in college sort of suck and after you have a professional job for 3 months you look back at your old work in horror. I couldn't imagine spending 20k on anything I modeled in college. I don't have anything now that I'd be willing to fork that much over.
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A5H posted:Yeah I don't think this would be feasible for the size I'm looking at. I have to do a car in about 1/4 scale. So just about a metre in length. Hah that's where I am. Sorry mate..
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