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Citizen Rat posted:Okay, if you were going to create a cd that was sort of a musical education of hip-hop through the past 30 or so years, what would you include? I'm trying to do this for my father and then I discovered that my own education in this genre is just completely lacking. help? Well if you want to go from early stuff, you'll need some Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, Nas, N.W.A. etc and including some good modern stuff like Aesop Rock
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Hennergy posted:Well if you want to go from early stuff, you'll need some Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, Nas, N.W.A. etc and including some good modern stuff like Aesop Rock ♪ ♫ one of these things is not like the other ♫ ♪ All good, but Nas/NWA/Tribe: "early stuff"? Some albums that haven't got a mention, but are canon: Rakim - Paid In Full EPMD - Strictly Business Eric B & Rakim - Follow the Leader BDP - Criminal Minded (yeah, someone already said KRS but his solo stuff is still eehhhh compared to BDP) Run DMC - S/T There's also the ton of other way-early guys the don't diverge into queen city only 12s: Treacherous 3, Whodini, Doug Fresh, DJ Red Alert, Kurtis Blow, MC Shan, Marley Marl, etc.
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Feb 14, 2010 03:12
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Actually, I take that back. Rap may have been around long enough that a lot of people collapse the early period together. Do I call Sex Packets "old school" now?
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Feb 14, 2010 03:16
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So the other day a song came up on my iPod's shuffle that I never listened to because I wrote the album off when I heard the first half of it due to the band being terrible. Except for this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os6eK-aZT1M which I really only like for the sexy verses, the bridge gets a little lame. So recommend me sexy songs that sound good the whole way through. EDIT: WTF totally wrong link
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Feb 14, 2010 05:41
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JehovahsWetness posted:♪ ♫ one of these things is not like the other ♫ ♪ Yeah, my error. I guess you could probably call Public Enemy 'early' in this age. It was more in comparison to stuff like Aesop Rock or whatever
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Feb 14, 2010 05:52
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Yeah, I know a lot of what I would consider 'newer' stuff and I guess some mid-aged rap (though, god, don't tell them that) but really early work is kinda a blur for me. I'm mostly looking for specific songs. The songs that made the entire genre do an about shift or are really emblematic. I know what I like (oh lol) but I'm not good on the history of the genre and what is considered to be the really big important songs. So mostly I've been throwing in what I really love but that's not the same as giving him a good grounding of what the genre has done, where its been, and where its going. What I've got is (alphabetic right now, probably go back and do it by release date): Aesop Rock, Ayatollah, BDP, Cut Chemist, Fugees, Jedi Mind Tricks, Lauryn Hill, Mos Def (lots of Mos Def), Nas, Rakim, Talib Kweli, Tribe Called Quest, The Roots This list probably says more about my own taste (I like clever & political/social critique) than it does about anything about the genre. Edit: Also thinking about throwing in some french stuff given that I currently have this raging crush on Keny Arkana Citizen Rat fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Feb 14, 2010 |
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Feb 14, 2010 16:04
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I have been asleep at the wheel for a while but Ive been inspired by Luvstep. This may may be a retarded general question but what have been some of the best (preferably free) hiphop/breaks/dub mixtapes released in the last yearish.
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Feb 14, 2010 18:24
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Citizen Rat posted:Yeah, I know a lot of what I would consider 'newer' stuff and I guess some mid-aged rap (though, god, don't tell them that) but really early work is kinda a blur for me. If you are looking for non-english speaking performers then Peter Fox and Fettes Brot are two pretty good German acts. Anime_Otaku fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Feb 14, 2010 |
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Feb 14, 2010 18:36
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I've been getting into 80's hardcore a lot recently, what are some good contemporary hardcore acts? I only really know Gallows (urgh) and hosed Up from the past 5 years.
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Thanks for the post-hardcore recommendations guys, most of them are pretty good. Now I'm going to ask for something completely different. I've never been big into pop or club type music. I'm looking for recommendations of club remixes of popular songs. I've been listening to United States of Pop 2009, and am loving the hell out of it. But that's really as far as my experience goes with that type of music. I've also been trying to get into some rap. Again, I really don't have any experience with the genre. But I love Hypnotize by Biggie Smalls if that's any help.
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Feb 15, 2010 13:25
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Surfer Rosa Parks posted:I've been getting into 80's hardcore a lot recently, what are some good contemporary hardcore acts? I only really know Gallows (urgh) and hosed Up from the past 5 years. Brutal Knights (toronto based comedy-hardcore) Career Suicide (also from toronto, 80s style hxc) DSB (crazy japanese hardcore)
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Surfer Rosa Parks posted:I've been getting into 80's hardcore a lot recently, what are some good contemporary hardcore acts? I only really know Gallows (urgh) and hosed Up from the past 5 years. about 3ish years ago there was a huge explosion of 80's revivalist bands. Try: Government Warning School Jerks Life Trap Cloak/Dagger Social Circkle Double Negative Chronic Seizure As for just good hardcore bands, seconding Muy Picante and adding: Vicious Cycle (bouncy, jangle-y hardcore sounds vaguely like Hidden World era hosed Up) Regulations (sounds a lot like Brutal Knights imho) Sinking Ships (super melodic hardcore) Ceremony (there are some haters, but Violence Violence rules imho) Failures (noisy super fast hardcore, almost on the verge of black metal and grind) SQRM (Flipper had sex with Black Flag and pooped out the angriest child I've ever heard) Tell me what you like and I can give you some more recs. BTW, I think Sinking Ships is the only band on this list not playing shows anymore.
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So after Since I Been Loving You (Zep) and Red House (Hendrix) came on back to back earlier today I've been in the mood for some classic, rolling blues-rock tracks. Who might I look at to find whole albums of that style of slow long-play blues? I'm already pretty familiar with bands like Zeppelin, Hendrix, Cream, John Mayall, etc. Perhaps a bit more 'under-the-radar' types? e: I also like Yardbirds if that helps 
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Feb 15, 2010 18:23
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Funyon posted:Thanks for the post-hardcore recommendations guys, most of them are pretty good. Check these out, I guarantee if you went out to a 'dance nite' at a typical club in the US you'd hear a couple if not all of these tracks: Ke$ha - Tik Tok (Fred Falke Club Remix) Lady Gaga - Bad Romance (Chew Fu remix) David Guetta feat. Akon - Sexy Bitch (Chuckie remix) Black Eyed Peas - Meet Me Halfway (Richard Vission remix) Shakira feat Kid Cudi - Did It Again (Benny Benassi remix) Rihanna - Russian Roulette (Tony Moran & Warren Rigg Club Remix) David Guetta feat Estelle - One Love (Avicii remix) Cheryl Cole feat Will.i.am - 3 Words (Steve Angello remix) As for rap, see if you like Tupac, Snoop Dogg, Nas, Dr. Dre and KRS-One. kundalini rinsing fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Feb 15, 2010 |
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Feb 15, 2010 19:42
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Electromax posted:So after Since I Been Loving You (Zep) and Red House (Hendrix) came on back to back earlier today I've been in the mood for some classic, rolling blues-rock tracks. Who might I look at to find whole albums of that style of slow long-play blues? I'm already pretty familiar with bands like Zeppelin, Hendrix, Cream, John Mayall, etc. Perhaps a bit more 'under-the-radar' types? Blue Cheer and Sir Lord Baltimore are two semi-under the radar hard blues rock bands from that era that rock hard. Both of them are usually tossed into the "proto-metal" classification along with Zep, Cream, and Hendrix.
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I've fallen hard for prog/alt rock the past few years, but I fear I've run out of bands. Thus far I have greatly enjoyed most everything by The Mars Volta, Porcupine Tree, Karmakanic, Pink Floyd, and In the Court of the Crimson King, but not much of King Crimson's other work. I haven't been able to find another band I could get into for months. Any suggestions?
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Full Circle posted:I've fallen hard for prog/alt rock the past few years, but I fear I've run out of bands. Thus far I have greatly enjoyed most everything by The Mars Volta, Porcupine Tree, Karmakanic, Pink Floyd, and In the Court of the Crimson King, but not much of King Crimson's other work. I haven't been able to find another band I could get into for months. Any suggestions? Check out Yes, Hawkwind, Gentle Giant and Emerson, Lake & Palmer
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etard knievel posted:Check out Yes, Hawkwind, Gentle Giant and Emerson, Lake & Palmer Sorry, I should have mentioned I'm just not a fan of the majority of those older artists, Pink Floyd and King Crimson being the outstanding exceptions. I just can't seem to get over the dated synth noises they use, as superficial as that may be. I'm largely looking for more modern work.
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Feb 15, 2010 22:02
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Muy Picante rear end posted:Brutal Knights (toronto based comedy-hardcore) baberaham lincoln posted:about 3ish years ago there was a huge explosion of 80's revivalist bands. Try: These are both great, exactly what I'm looking for. Been slogging through that list all afternoon, favorites so far are probably Government Warning, Career Suicide and Sinking Ships. Got anything a bit...sludgier? I've been on a Bad Brains kick, so more heavy stuff like that would be awesome.
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For one reason or another, Brain Killer's demo sounds to me like a bit of Bad Brains worship. Honestly, it's pretty hard to find modern bands who sound a lot like Bad Brains (I'm thinking ROIR Sessions here). That's kind of what makes BB's so special. I'm sure someone else will be able to answer this question better than me, but I've got nothing at the moment. EDIT: Confine's demo was one of my favorite releases of 2009, it reminds me of a more raw/sludgy Career Suicide. Also, it's a free DL from the band! http://www.side-two.com/downloads.html baberaham lincoln fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Feb 15, 2010 |
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Feb 15, 2010 22:58
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Soylent Heliotrope posted:
Yep when it comes to music Cardiacs is pretty much all you need  while we're on the subject though, also check out William D Drake and Tim Smith's solo stuff and related projects!
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Feb 15, 2010 23:16
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baberaham lincoln posted:
Blue Cheer's first album Vincebus Eruptum and the compilation Good Times are so Hard to Find are good starter albums and you can get Sir Lord Baltimore's first two albums on one disc. There are more bands like these in this thread. Some might be more psychedelic or heavier than what you're looking for but you might like them.
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baberaham lincoln posted:For one reason or another, Brain Killer's demo sounds to me like a bit of Bad Brains worship. Honestly, it's pretty hard to find modern bands who sound a lot like Bad Brains (I'm thinking ROIR Sessions here). That's kind of what makes BB's so special. I'm sure someone else will be able to answer this question better than me, but I've got nothing at the moment. Eh, no biggie, there's already plenty of material there to keep me busy for a while. And that Confine demo is probably the best so far so yeah, Thanks!
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http://www.youtube.com/disco Last.fm with videos I guess. And I'll leave this here for everyone to enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e53-FEGtzlw
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mezzir posted:While you've mentioned Mark Ronson, Versions by him was loving fantastic, twas all covers of pop songs, and most that I can remember had fantastic horn riffs (never checked but given his previous work I always assumed it was with The Dap-Kings as well). And again on this trail, check out Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings. Listening to them its really really disorienting to realize that they're a current band. Here you are my friend: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3231048. This is actually a Chromeo thread we had a while back. It mentions a few artists that sound like them. The only artists I didn't see that you might want to try is Tommy Sparks or the Scissor Sisters.
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baberaham lincoln posted:Blue Cheer and Sir Lord Baltimore are two semi-under the radar hard blues rock bands from that era that rock hard. Both of them are usually tossed into the "proto-metal" classification along with Zep, Cream, and Hendrix. Way Past Cool! posted:Blue Cheer's first album Vincebus Eruptum and the compilation Good Times are so Hard to Find are good starter albums and you can get Sir Lord Baltimore's first two albums on one disc. There are more bands like these in this thread. Some might be more psychedelic or heavier than what you're looking for but you might like them. Thanks guys. Sir Lord Baltimore has sounded like a good start so far!
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Electromax posted:So after Since I Been Loving You (Zep) and Red House (Hendrix) came on back to back earlier today I've been in the mood for some classic, rolling blues-rock tracks. Who might I look at to find whole albums of that style of slow long-play blues? I'm already pretty familiar with bands like Zeppelin, Hendrix, Cream, John Mayall, etc. Perhaps a bit more 'under-the-radar' types? Check out King Hobo and Kamchatka. The latter is a little heavier than the two artists you mentioned, but King Hobo I think is one of the best blues-rock band to come out over the past few years even if they were formed mostly for jokey fun.
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Full Circle posted:Sorry, I should have mentioned I'm just not a fan of the majority of those older artists, Pink Floyd and King Crimson being the outstanding exceptions. I just can't seem to get over the dated synth noises they use, as superficial as that may be. I'm largely looking for more modern work. Try "Jaga Jazzist - One armed bandit". Draws inspiration from the likes of Zappa, King Crimson and Phillip Glass. One of my favorite records in 2010. Also, I would recommend that you got into the Zeuhl genre, within prog, for loads of new and interesting things. Magma, Samla Mammas Manna and Univers Zero are good starters.
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Full Circle posted:I've fallen hard for prog/alt rock the past few years, but I fear I've run out of bands. Thus far I have greatly enjoyed most everything by The Mars Volta, Porcupine Tree, Karmakanic, Pink Floyd, and In the Court of the Crimson King, but not much of King Crimson's other work. I haven't been able to find another band I could get into for months. Any suggestions? Ever heard of math rock? It's like Prog Rock's more experimental cousin. Try out Tera Melos and Hella. Hella's drummer (Zach Hill) has actually collaborated with The Mars Volta before.
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I'm really liking Jaga Jazzist so far, thanks for the suggestions!
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I'm looking for any type of African/Latin/Middle Eastern music that is heavily displaced from Western Music. Basically, anything that would sound neat to someone who isn't familiar with it. It would help if the music gave a sense of immersion in the culture, if that makes any sense. These are pretty well-known examples but: Fela Kuti, Buena Vista Social Club, etc
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OrganicRobot posted:I'm looking for any type of African/Latin/Middle Eastern music that is heavily displaced from Western Music. Basically, anything that would sound neat to someone who isn't familiar with it. It would help if the music gave a sense of immersion in the culture, if that makes any sense.
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Farts Domino posted:I wouldn't call Fela heavily displaced from Western music given the James Brown influence, but there are numerous compilations on B-Music or Sublime Frequencies such as Shadow Music of Thailand and Sound of Wonder, perhaps Roots of Chicha on Barbes records too, that while influenced by Western music, still sound very unique but aren't as inaccessible as, say, Koto music. Wow, thanks for the quick reply! I knew that Fela and all that wasn't too displaced, but it's about as exotic as my music gets in terms of geography. Checking out the Thailand and Chicha now.
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It's great that you want to learn more about music outside of continental North America and Western Europe but you seem misguided. It's as if you're saying "hey internet, I want a grab bag of the most exotic musical souvenirs you have," which is a shallow, touristy way to approach it. And like Farts Domino said, your examples aren't really heavily displaced from western music anyway. Anyway I posted this two pages ago when someone asked for a Buena Vista Social Club rec. Way Past Cool! posted:Afro-Cuban All Stars, Tito Puente, Orquesta Riverside, Eddie Palmieri, Mongo Santamaria. In broad terms you're looking for Cuban/Afro-Cuban music but in particular you might want to look for the genres son and salsa.
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Way Past Cool! posted:It's great that you want to learn more about music outside of continental North America and Western Europe but you seem misguided. It's as if you're saying "hey internet, I want a grab bag of the most exotic musical souvenirs you have," which is a shallow, touristy way to approach it. With something as wide as "non-Western music" I have really no way of asking other than in a touristy manner. I suppose it is similar to a foreigner asking for some "Western Music", which, in a sense, boils down an entire culture's music into one term, and I'm not meaning to do that. How would you suggest I narrow down what I'm looking for, and how can I not seem touristy about it?
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Aside from social connotations of exotification, whichever way gets you to a certain point sounds good and with more understanding of the music the reasons for appreciation will solidify. It's not like OrganicRobot's seeking out African music and really meaning the Lion King soundtrack (as has happened here before). I don't think there's really much wrong for seeking out totally different sounds or even wanting to musically explore the world, and the question is asked in a pretty "I'll take whatever you got" sorta way.
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Farts Domino posted:I don't think there's really much wrong for seeking out totally different sounds or even wanting to musically explore the world, and the question is asked in a pretty "I'll take whatever you got" sorta way. Like I said, I don't fault him for wanting to learn about non-western music, it's the way he asked about it that struck me as tourism. He did name specific artists which was good, and could be addressed within the scope of this thread. OrganicRobot posted:How would you suggest I narrow down what I'm looking for, and how can I not seem touristy about it? Well it was an incredibly broad request and you seemed to lump unrelated things together. Maybe you could try asking for resources (online, print, etc.) that give a general overview of various musical styles throughout the world. Read through that and find specific artists or genres that interests you and then come back for recommendations (like you already did with Fela and BVSC). That way you can focus your search and better know what you actually want. Admittedly I don't know of a good resource for this myself, but other posters might.
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A lot of world music purists would scoff at this but maybe it would help to pick up some sort of Putumayo compilation or other broad-ranged album that has information about which countries / cultures the songs come from, and then ask for recs along those certain lines? Just that asking basically for reccomendations for 'non-white music' is almost as broad a 'genre' as asking for 'music with singing in it'.
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Lately I've really been digging The Flaming Lips, Black Moth Super Rainbow, Shpongle, Yndi Halda, chill bands that are more poignant (well at least for me anyway) that I can listen to with other people and while tripping. This is strange because my true nature is in grindcore and death metal, so this concept of relaxed music is very foreign to me. I especially love the song Do You Realize?? By the lips, this is one of the coolest songs I have ever heard! If anyone has any recommendations for music similar to these bands (any of them, I realize the list I provided is somewhat erratic) it would be much appreciated. The rcommendation thread has never failed me you guys know what the gently caress is up haha!
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For stuff like Black Moth: Tobacco - hosed Up Friends (Tobacco is a member of BMSR and thus sounds like BMSR) Flying Lotus - Los Angels Toro Y Moi - Causers of This Lotus Plaza - The floodlight collective Truman Peyote - Light-Lightning (sounds more like Animal Collective, but I think you might enjoy it, the song Fishscraps owns) MillionYoung - Sunndreamm EP I could probably do better than this, but this is all that's coming to mind. I'll let you know if I can find more BMSR-ish stuff. EDIT: holy poo poo how could I forget Octopus Project. Get the Octopus Project/BMSR split and go from there, most of their stuff is good. Also, The Books - Lemon of Pink. Super super super trippy album. baberaham lincoln fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Feb 19, 2010 |
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