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xezton posted:Have any movies come out recently that were mostly non-cg?
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xezton posted:I agree. But I worry that in this day and age doing something like that would be pretty difficult, given how used to CGI the industry has become. The Dark Knight used a lotta old school methods, such as models and sets, then fixed it up with CGI. I'm not totally against CGI, I just don't want the movie to look like The Mummy or something.
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YourEvilTw1n posted:With you on this. I really hope they stick with the classic puppets and composites, using CGI to fill in the gaps and clean it up, rather than just CGI. Exactly. The original Star Wars trilogy is a perfect example of the use of puppets and composites. Jurassic Park as well. Classic special effects with CGI clean up would by my ideal compromise. (Btw, I was watching the special features for Jurassic Park and it's really shown me how far we've come with special effects)
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# ? Feb 24, 2010 19:35 |
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LOTR has less CG in it than most people think. Pretty much only characters and animals are pure CG, buildings and structures are models touched up with a few CG bits here and there. Even the flooding of Isengard was largely done with models and the digital orcs and ents were composited in later.
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haveblue posted:LOTR has less CG in it than most people think. Pretty much only characters and animals are pure CG, buildings and structures are models touched up with a few CG bits here and there. Even the flooding of Isengard was largely done with models and the digital orcs and ents were composited in later. Fine with any of this. I just don't want Ghostbusters 3 to look like I Am Legend, iRobot, Legion, or any of the other summer filler movies with the same cartoonish CGI.
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YourEvilTw1n posted:With you on this. I really hope they stick with the classic puppets and composites, using CGI to fill in the gaps and clean it up, rather than just CGI. drat straight. But the way the industry is nowadays, it might just be cheaper to do everything on a computer and call it a day. Personally, I lost hope when Indy 4 came out. Spielberg swore up and down that they'd stick to "old school" stunts and camerawork, and use minimal CG. He obviously changed his mind once he started working on it. My bastion of hope is Bill Murray. Considering his disappointment with Ghostbusters II, if he goes through with making this it must mean the script is funny enough, and doesn't go overboard with ridiculous special effects.
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# ? Feb 24, 2010 21:35 |
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gently caress. Yes.
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# ? Feb 27, 2010 00:02 |
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Just throwing this in here: From: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dalbyspook/4381639787/
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YourEvilTw1n posted:Just throwing this in here: I feel like I should understand this movie poster (??) way more than I actually do in reality.
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# ? Mar 1, 2010 17:05 |
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vladimir posted:I feel like I should understand this movie poster (??) way more than I actually do in reality. (look at the lights)
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# ? Mar 1, 2010 17:11 |
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YourEvilTw1n posted:
There...are...four...lights!
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# ? Mar 1, 2010 22:00 |
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Oh good Lord that was obscure. I don't feel so bad now, though I'm not sure I belong in the same ranks as obvious die-hards that picked up on that immediately.
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# ? Mar 1, 2010 22:41 |
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vladimir posted:Oh good Lord that was obscure. I don't feel so bad now, though I'm not sure I belong in the same ranks as obvious die-hards that picked up on that immediately.
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I don't know who else caught Bill Murray on Letterman tonight. I watched on the off chance that he'd get a Ghostbusters III question, and, well, http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44129 He confirms the whole idea of killing him off, and according to him they found a way to do it, but he still seems to doubt the thing will actually get made (he also doesn't seem the least bit enthused about it). Judging by the way he talks about it (specifically the "crazy talk" comment), it also seems to confirm what I've kind of thought all along - that telling Aykroyd/Ramis/whoever that he'll come back if he was a ghost was his way of saying "I really don't want to do this", not because he seriously thought it was a good idea. At this point, I really hope this thing doesn't collapse. My balls will be blue for a very long time. Cdishwalla fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Mar 2, 2010 |
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Cdishwalla posted:I don't know who else caught Bill Murray on Letterman tonight. I watched on the off chance that he'd get a Ghostbusters III question, and, well, http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44129 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7US7PU6tidM
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Cdishwalla posted:I don't know who else caught Bill Murray on Letterman tonight. I watched on the off chance that he'd get a Ghostbusters III question, and, well, http://www.aintitcool.com/node/44129 "Well... technically."
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# ? Mar 2, 2010 11:07 |
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I've always just thought that Murray told them that because he reasoned there was no way they'd ever actually do it. I mean maybe that idea could work, but I really can't think of a way to kill off Venkman without the film being a downer. I'm sure if they turn in a genuinely good script then Murray will think "Oh ok that's cool I'll do it", but by all accounts he was burned so badly with GBII that it'll be a surprise to see him come back.
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DrVenkman posted:I've always just thought that Murray told them that because he reasoned there was no way they'd ever actually do it. I mean maybe that idea could work, but I really can't think of a way to kill off Venkman without the film being a downer. Come on, the guy did Garfield 1 and 2! Can't he just suck it up?
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YourEvilTw1n posted:Come on, the guy did Garfield 1 and 2! Can't he just suck it up? Probably for the same reason he did the video game, easy money to do some voice work in the studio.
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# ? Mar 2, 2010 16:14 |
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What exactly happened during GB2 that left such a bad taste in Murray's mouth?
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# ? Mar 2, 2010 17:25 |
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Eyre Kneed posted:What exactly happened during GB2 that left such a bad taste in Murray's mouth? He's just not happy with the final product. He still talks about the first 45 minutes of Ghostbusters being some of the best comedy ever produced. In his mind, the sequel got taken over the effects guys and lost the original fun. He has a quote somewhere saying he had "2 scenes" in the movie.
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Eyre Kneed posted:What exactly happened during GB2 that left such a bad taste in Murray's mouth? Apart from it being a completely unneeded retread of the first film Murray said that the special effects people got a say in the script, so the emphasis became effects over character and comedy etc. I imagine under those conditions there's a lack of freedom there which Murray probably found hard to work with.
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If GB3 does get made, they're just going to have to do it without Murray. He's either going to decline to be in it, or phone it in as a ghost. He has absolutely no faith in the project and is only working against its fruition. Explain away his absence by saying he got married to Dana and retired somewhere nice with her and Oscar. I know a lot of fans would scream BLASPHEMY! at the mere suggestion that Aykroyd, Ramis and Hudson should go ahead with GB3 without Murray, but let's face it, it's not going to get made with him playing any kind of proper role.
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# ? Mar 2, 2010 17:59 |
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Yeah, I don't have very high hopes for Ghostbusters III, as much as I'd love to. At least the game was pretty awesome.
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toxick posted:He's either going to decline to be in it, or phone it in as a ghost. egon_beeblebrox posted:At least the game was pretty awesome. He totally phoned it in for the game too, even though he says he enjoyed doing it. He actually sounds like he's nodding off to sleep at some points. I remember Murray saying a while back (before talk of the all-CG movie, or the video game) that he would "appear" in a third movie, but he could only be on set for something like three days. That, of course would amount to little more than a cameo. If he doesn't want to play ball, they should just take him up on that. Have him living somewhere with Dana for most of the movie, then appear at the end to crack a few jokes and help save the day. Better than killing him off and/or having him as a ghost, and better than a completely Murray-less movie. Cdishwalla fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Mar 2, 2010 |
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Seriously, it was cool that they got Bill Murray to do the voice, but he was most definitely NOT playing Peter Venkman in the game. There were precisely zero instances of his 'COME ON' Bill Murray voice. Just him reading some lines and being passive-agressively a dick to the player.
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# ? Mar 3, 2010 01:22 |
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I think Venkman was always just Murray more-or-less playing himself, and the problem with his performance in the game is that he's still doing just that; you have the voice and personality of an almost-60-year-old man coming out of a digital representation of the same guy in his thirties. He probably didn't even re-watch Ghostbusters to get a feel for the character, because Venkman came so naturally to him back in the day. Just comparing Bill's first appearance on Letterman to his more recent interviews shows how much more manic and lively he was in the '80s. More than anything I was shocked at how quiet his lines in the game were, but when I think about it that's how Murray sounds in a lot of his movies nowadays. He probably did enjoy the recording sessions but forgot that he was playing a younger version of himself. Dan Aykroyd, on the other hand, judging by his Crystal Head Vodka promo videos and his 'Unplugged on UFOs' documentary, has only gotten more like Ray Stantz. It really would not surprise me if he actually opened an 'occult books' store.
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Ray Stantz always was Aykroyd.YourEvilTw1n posted:Just throwing this in here: Not only is this a cool, understated graphic of the proton pack, but you could also look at it as Venkman/Murray burning just a bit brighter than the other three Ghostbusters.
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Lobok posted:Ray Stantz always was Aykroyd. I was thinking that the four lights also represent the four 'Busters too. I love that poster so hard.
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YourEvilTw1n posted:I was thinking that the four lights also represent the four 'Busters too. I love that poster so hard. I've gone and sorted out a print of it from him too, because I love it MORE THAN THE REST OF YOU. It will fill the void left by my old pack, anyway: edit: apologies if I've posted that already, long thread.
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echoplex posted:Goddamn I want a pack for next halloween. Mine is made outta styrofoam.
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Rikolai posted:I think Venkman was always just Murray more-or-less playing himself, and the problem with his performance in the game is that he's still doing just that; you have the voice and personality of an almost-60-year-old man coming out of a digital representation of the same guy in his thirties. He probably didn't even re-watch Ghostbusters to get a feel for the character, because Venkman came so naturally to him back in the day. I'm pretty sure this has more to do with Bill Murray's cocaine levels and age than anything. Of course he isn't as energetic now that he's thirty years older. Few people are.
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Lobok posted:Ray Stantz always was Aykroyd. Or one of the Ghostbusters having a little more color than the others.
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# ? Mar 4, 2010 07:49 |
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HalPhilipWalker posted:Of course he isn't as energetic now that he's thirty years older. Few people are. That was my point. Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis voiced their characters in the game with as much energy as they had 30 years ago. Bill Murray forgot to voice his character as if he were 30 years younger so Venkman ended up sounding quiet and listless. It's either that or he just phoned it in, but since he says he enjoyed the recording sessions I think my theory holds some weight.
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# ? Mar 4, 2010 14:56 |
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For the Michigoons: Ernie Hudson will be at the Motor City Comicon in May.
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# ? Mar 4, 2010 17:17 |
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He sounded slurred to me. Not drunk slurred, but a sort of mushmouth like maybe he'd just gotten a few shots of novacaine for dental work. Given the sort of stance his character took in the game (sort of a "No, not this again, not doing it, no way, no how"), I'd rather just see him retire than die in the movie, no matter how they work the angle. It isn't like he didn't do it before in GB2, but the Venkman of the game really didn't seem like he gave two shits about anything until it was girl saving time. It'd be easy for Venkman to retire, likely with Dana, and pop in for a few minutes of snarky conversation and provide the key bit of information or insight to solve the problem. Better than killing him.
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# ? Mar 4, 2010 17:34 |
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Bill Murray IS Ghostbusters. The first film wouldn't work without him as the anchor. I'd rather there just not be a Ghostbusters 3 than have one without Murray or with him in an extremely reduced/indifferent role.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Bill Murray IS Ghostbusters. The first film wouldn't work without him as the anchor. I'd rather there just not be a Ghostbusters 3 than have one without Murray or with him in an extremely reduced/indifferent role. Not trying to be a dick here but why? In the old films if you remove Murray they aren't the same I'll totally give you that. But if they are looking to go in a new direction (which they should because a rehash of GB and GBII would not go over well with today's audiences) then it wouldn't be near the blow that some people are suggesting. They'd need the real scientists, Egon and Ray, to teach the new generation or whatever it was they had planned.
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# ? Mar 4, 2010 19:53 |
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They're never going to perfectly re-create the mood and energy that was in GB 1, so I like hearing that they might go in a slightly different direction.
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Ghostbusters Alignment chart... http://nextround.net/upcoming/thumbs/2010/03/18/Ghostbusters-Alignment-Chart-full.jpg
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