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2ndclasscitizen posted:That green Corolla(?) with the speedway spoiler is amazing. It's an E30 with a small block Ford, the 302i 
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Contraband posted:It's an E30 with a small block Ford, the 302i I loving love Lemons.
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Mar 8, 2010 19:41
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DropShadow posted:So they think it was malicious? They think he was trying to block the pass, ie overly aggressive driving. Apparently Jay banned the whole team. The team captain(only one without black flags) can drive on another team if he isn't captain and it isn't this maxima. edit: point of interest, that is basically a mirror image of the wreck that killed dale earnhardt. oxbrain fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Mar 8, 2010 |
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Mar 8, 2010 22:29
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How frequent are black flags?
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Mar 8, 2010 22:31
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Ziploc posted:How frequent are black flags? Don't they hand out hundreds per event?
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Mar 8, 2010 23:09
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Ziploc posted:How frequent are black flags? At thunderhill they were very common, 571 flags over ~150 cars. Only one team had none, most had one, I got three*, I think some teams were over 10. The maxima team was near the top of the list. *In my defense, I'm stupid and a bad driver.
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Mar 8, 2010 23:10
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He unbelted and dropped onto his head. Couldn't have helped. A common error when upside down. I've even seen upside down drivers, with their hands hanging above their heads, wave around looking for the harness release. They finally realize where it *really* is, then *still* drop themselves on their heads. Brain overrides gravity vector nearly always, at least the first time.
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Mar 9, 2010 00:15
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oxbrain posted:edit: point of interest, that is basically a mirror image of the wreck that killed dale earnhardt. I thought the same, he would have benefited from a Hans or Hutchens device.
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Mar 9, 2010 03:47
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Toucan Sam posted:I thought the same, he would have benefited from a Hans or Hutchens device. I thought it was required to have a HANS device in lemons?
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Mar 9, 2010 09:31
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Blocko posted:I thought it was required to have a HANS device in lemons? HANS or neck roll. It's kinda crazy to expect every driver to drop $1,500 on a HANS device plus a HANS compatible helmet.
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Mar 9, 2010 10:05
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Contraband posted:It's an E30 with a small block Ford, the 302i AI incarnate. oxbrain posted:At thunderhill they were very common, 571 flags over ~150 cars. Only one team had none, most had one, I got three*, I think some teams were over 10. The maxima team was near the top of the list. Are they all driving flags? Or tech flags as well?
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Mar 9, 2010 11:06
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Toucan Sam posted:I thought the same, he would have benefited from a Hans or Hutchens device. HANS would have done jack poo poo with a drop on the head. quote:HANS or neck roll. It's kinda crazy to expect every driver to drop $1,500 on a HANS device plus a HANS compatible helmet. Plus to get the actual benefit out of HANS, the right harness and seats as well. On cars that cant really get much pace going, it's kinda overkill with the very low chance it will actually be needed.
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Cat Terrist posted:HANS would have done jack poo poo with a drop on the head. It wasn't the drop that did it according to one of his teammates. The doctor reviewed the video and said it was the initial collision head on into the wall. quote:Plus to get the actual benefit out of HANS, the right harness and seats as well. On cars that cant really get much pace going, it's kinda overkill with the very low chance it will actually be needed. I've owned my house for 12 years and been alive for 35. I've never had a house fire but i still make sure i have working smoke detectors. Are you saying since i never actually experienced a fire i shouldn't worry or prepare for the chance of one? Toucan Sam fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Mar 10, 2010 |
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Mar 10, 2010 03:49
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Cat Terrist posted:On cars that cant really get much pace going, it's kinda overkill with the very low chance it will actually be needed. I don't think it's as much to do with the speed of the accident as it is with the frequency of the accidents. LeMons isn't full of people who don't know how to drive - it's full of people who think they know how to drive but don't. Which is way worse.
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Mar 10, 2010 05:05
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galliumscan posted:He unbelted and dropped onto his head. Couldn't have helped. He dropped like an inch, I think he made a quick and smart exit from the car considering the intensity of the crash. There was no delay, he stopped sliding and immediatly went for the harness release, then crawled quickly out the window.
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Mar 10, 2010 05:23
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Some brown wetsuits here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkFk_eTJo5o
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Toucan Sam posted:
And a meteor might hit me on the way to a meeting tonight. Do I look worried? No, HANS is not required. It's even a fat lump of wasted money for specific and rare crashes that at low speed just isn't going to happen. On the other hand, the video showed a turd of a cage that would never pass scrutineering in it's wildest dreams here - the guy was even more lucky that thing didn't keep rolling, the cage would have collapsed. A cage helps in ALL crashes. gently caress spending on HANS, I'll dump every single cent on the cage and be safe in a far bigger variety of crashes. Especially in reference to Contraband's point. Cage up. Put in the best seat. Decent harness and maybe a head donut.
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Mar 10, 2010 08:14
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The problem was the wall impact, which a hans would have buffered. The car was traveling at a very high rate of speed. It didn't keep rolling, which several Lemons cars have done without ill effects. Just because those cars are mainly shitbox racers doesn't mean they don't have violent collisions. Ever see Dale Earnhardt crash? He has a cage bar named after him and he still managed to die even with a state of the art cage and a head donut.
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Mar 10, 2010 09:20
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2ndclasscitizen posted:Some brown wetsuits here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkFk_eTJo5o Hahahah listen to the bogan at 0:44 in the background.
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Mar 10, 2010 10:49
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Toucan Sam posted:The problem was the wall impact, which a hans would have buffered. The car was traveling at a very high rate of speed. It didn't keep rolling, which several Lemons cars have done without ill effects. Just because those cars are mainly shitbox racers doesn't mean they don't have violent collisions. Ever see Dale Earnhardt crash? He has a cage bar named after him and he still managed to die even with a state of the art cage and a head donut. Despite squeals to the contrary, I'm pretty sure the "failed" (definatly loose) safety belt had a lot more to do with his death and given the other load of bones he broke, that's a safe assumption. And with HANS REQUIRING a compatible harness to work, a failure of a harness would then be possibly worse. HANS moreover has it's own set of problems in a crash, that are also shared with a harness - the pressure on the ribs is greatly enhanced and leads to in the case of Paul Radisich in Australia, a badly broken sternum and ribs in an overwise injury free crash. And also in a head on belt into a wall, the brain is stopped suddenly, like all the other organs are. With a Leatt device, the head is slowed before stopping, not jerked to a stop when it gets to the end of the tethers as in HANS. HANS is not the safety angel it's made out to be and as I stated before, I'd rather see the money put to real primary safety first. Especially when I see an obviously crap cage. And rewatching the video in question, the roof hit his head when the cage deformed. That's not exactly good.
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Mar 10, 2010 23:46
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Toucan Sam posted:Ever see Dale Earnhardt crash? He has a cage bar named after him and he still managed to die even with a state of the art cage and a head donut. The fucker loosened his belts so he could look around in order to block so the team he owned could finish 1-2, it's literally the worst kept secret in NASCAR. Nothing would have kept him alive in that instance.
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-Spiffy- posted:Hahahah listen to the bogan at 0:44 in the background. I just listened and the sound drops to silence there. Did they edit it out? What was it?
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quadpus posted:I just listened and the sound drops to silence there. Did they edit it out? What was it? Its just before it cuts out and he's cheering "Whoo! Yeah, thats the poo poo!"
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Mar 11, 2010 01:32
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDdsB7aZ-bo&feature=channel He wants $3200. If I had the money I would be at his door with the asking price and a hug in a heartbeat 
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Cat Terrist posted:HANS is not the safety angel it's made out to be and as I stated before, I'd rather see the money put to real primary safety first. Especially when I see an obviously crap cage. I definitely agree with that, especially considering you are involved in what i consider the most dangerous form of motorsports. I've never seen a wreck harder than i see in rally racing and you guys walk away for the most part.
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Mar 11, 2010 06:33
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Audi RS5 testing on the 'ring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyQYg_euZrA
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Mar 11, 2010 09:41
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Out of curiosity, is there a correct technique for releasing your harness while upside down?
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Mar 11, 2010 12:36
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This will have to go without description because I don't want to ruin the suprise: http://www.kladblog.com/embed_flv.asp?id=media.kladblog.com/media/201003/fietser.flv
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Mar 11, 2010 15:14
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So between this and AI images were posting death on film now?
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Mar 11, 2010 15:19
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Well. It is pretty insane, and there's a car involved...
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I love this one, I just wish there were more context, like: Was it on purpose? What was the aftermath? http://www.break.com/index/crazy-driver-jumps-over-roundabout.html
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Mar 11, 2010 19:39
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XK posted:I love this one, I just wish there were more context, like: Was it on purpose? What was the aftermath? I can't imagine anyone would do that on purpose without the car being a really REALLY serious rally machine or a total falling apart pile of junk, and it didn't really seem like either from what little you could see of it. That being the case, I can't imagine the aftermath was anything other than carnage.
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Mar 11, 2010 20:24
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Sirveaux posted:This will have to go without description because I don't want to ruin the suprise: gently caress off. That's not awesome you twat
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Mar 11, 2010 20:46
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Sirveaux posted:This will have to go without description because I don't want to ruin the suprise: What the gently caress is wrong with you?
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Boat posted:I can't imagine anyone would do that on purpose without the car being a really REALLY serious rally machine or a total falling apart pile of junk, and it didn't really seem like either from what little you could see of it. Could've been a stolen car on a joyride.
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Mar 11, 2010 21:55
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XK posted:Could've been a stolen car on a joyride. or a drunk
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Ola posted:Out of curiosity, is there a correct technique for releasing your harness while upside down? My biggest issue with that is that he was in the middle of the track and he undid his harness and jumped out right away. I'd like to think I would have at least tried to wait until someone came and helped me out, at least to be sure that the track was clear and no car was going to come around and smoke me.
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I will literally do a lot for this car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U49oU7B-W84&feature=related And to pull up to the lights in this would be fantastic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hNJgsy14Rw&feature=related
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D C posted:My biggest issue with that is that he was in the middle of the track and he undid his harness and jumped out right away.
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XK posted:I love this one, I just wish there were more context, like: Was it on purpose? What was the aftermath? How does this happen? It didn't seem like the brown car was swerving, so why didn't he just move out of the way?
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