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Metroixer posted:Are there any books that can help someone who may be defined as music retarded to help get into learning how to make this kind of music? Synthesizer Basics has some good info on basic sound design and how synthesizers work. The Dance Music Manual is a useful guide to building tracks in specific styles (house, trance, drum & bass, etc.)
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trill rear end posted:
drat this poo poo is awesome! do you make and master all your stuff in ableton? What kind of plugins are you using? Also, how do you get that really high sounding synth in the background to sound... well, like it's in the background?
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Mar 18, 2010 10:45
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Well, I've tried to use Reason. Somehow, the interface just dosen't click for me. It seems very.. limiting, for me, personally. I've been thinking of trying out Cubase? Is the piano roll any good on it? How many good plugins does it have?
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Mar 18, 2010 14:53
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GbrushTwood posted:drat this poo poo is awesome! do you make and master all your stuff in ableton? What kind of plugins are you using? Also, how do you get that really high sounding synth in the background to sound... well, like it's in the background? yeah this is all in ableton. I use massive for all synths and camel phat for a lil sub boost. the high sounding synth is just massive doing a square saw with lfo on the pitch. Its got a little bit of reverb on it and its sidechained. The sidechaining has a lot to do with the "background" sound.
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Mar 18, 2010 15:21
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Exadus posted:Well, I've tried to use Reason. Somehow, the interface just dosen't click for me. It seems very.. limiting, for me, personally. It has a midi editor (thats piano roll to you) thats been improved and developed continually since the late 80's - and they invented the VST platform. You do not buy cubase for its plugins, even though it has all the standard ones. The ones that stand out are: Effects: Reverence - A very decent, but cpu hungry reverb unit Quadrafuzz - A multiband distortion unit. Amp Simulator - A sort of cut-down version of guitar rig/amplitube that does the job GEC-30 - A 30 band graphic EQ Bitcrusher - Its.. A bit crusher. Stereo Enhancer - A decent Stereo Width expander Instruments: Groove Agent One - A drum sample player with everything you'd expect. Halion One - A cut down version sample player of Halion. These will compete with whats in the plugin market in general. The rest can easily be considered as afterthoughts. The built in channel EQ cuts nicely but boosts sorta harshly. You can easily get by with this toolset alone. There are a couple of synths, but they are nothing special. Quincy Smallvoice fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Mar 18, 2010 |
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Mar 18, 2010 15:29
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trill rear end posted:yeah this is all in ableton. I use massive for all synths and camel phat for a lil sub boost. the high sounding synth is just massive doing a square saw with lfo on the pitch. Its got a little bit of reverb on it and its sidechained. The sidechaining has a lot to do with the "background" sound. loving amazing man. Any advice on how to do those awesome glitched out effects on the vocals in the beginning?
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Mar 19, 2010 04:20
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GbrushTwood posted:loving amazing man. Any advice on how to do those awesome glitched out effects on the vocals in the beginning? The glitched out vocals in the beginning sound a lot like the "beat repeat" built in effect in Live, combined with some possible retriggering of the sample manually. Correct me if I'm wrong, trill rear end.
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Mar 19, 2010 05:00
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mrpeaches posted:The glitched out vocals in the beginning sound a lot like the "beat repeat" built in effect in Live, combined with some possible retriggering of the sample manually. Correct me if I'm wrong, trill rear end. effectrix 
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Mar 19, 2010 05:23
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trill rear end posted:effectrix Ahhh, in that case, GbrushTwood, check Effectrix at http://www.sugar-bytes.de/content/products/Effectrix/index.php It's a fantastic little plugin, definitely check out the demo. It's wonderful for getting all those glitchy little stutters without spergin' out on manual audio editing.
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mrpeaches posted:Ahhh, in that case, GbrushTwood, check Effectrix at http://www.sugar-bytes.de/content/products/Effectrix/index.php yeah its amazing! i have noticed some popping and clicking when automating the device on an off. so i just made its own channel where its on all the time so i dont experience that.
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oredun posted:wow, i thought it was going to be good and it took the worst direction possible. the sample was good(very pretty lights sounding) and then the drums kick in and you just lost me. I think every other measure or so, you need an extra kick drum in there. Before that last snare, you need a kick right before it. If the kicks sounds just a little bit more hip hop-y, it'd rule! You also gotta switch up the patterns more. Make your 4th snare hit a beat late or something. More variation the patterns, less plodding. A good, moody, swelling futuregarage start, but you aint ready to tour with Starkey yet!
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Mar 19, 2010 16:49
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mrpeaches posted:Ahhh, in that case, GbrushTwood, check Effectrix at http://www.sugar-bytes.de/content/products/Effectrix/index.php Sugar Bytes ARTILLERY 2 also a sweet plugin (Assign glitchy effects to keys to trigger in real time)
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Mar 19, 2010 17:24
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so i decided this afternoon that i really like bass still needs a whole lot of polish, and im still not sure about everything that ISNT the bass or drum line, but any comments are welcome. im mostly looking for advice on how to tighten up the bassline and make it more.... punchy... i guess.
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Mar 19, 2010 19:16
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Sounds like a really stupid question I know, but how should I start along the path of being able to work out what melodies should follow and what notes are in key with the rest of the song other than by working it out through trial and error?
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Minotaurus Rex posted:Sounds like a really stupid question I know, but how should I start along the path of being able to work out what melodies should follow and what notes are in key with the rest of the song other than by working it out through trial and error? If I'm understanding your question, it sounds like you should go read up on some basic music theory, to get a sense for how scales and chords and constructed, how key signatures work, and what the circle of fifths is all about. musictheory.net has some good basic lessons, and the Ravenspiral Guide to Music Theory (it's a free download) also has some good info
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Mar 19, 2010 19:37
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I picked up Music Theory for Dummies and it's been pretty nice so far. The Ravenspiral guide is really nice but I like having the paper book on my desk that I can flip through if I get stuck on a scale.
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Mar 19, 2010 19:41
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Mar 19, 2010 19:45
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Psychedelic posted:Sugar Bytes ARTILLERY 2 You can do this with effectrix as well. I like it better than artillery for midi assigned effect sequences. You can do a lot with a sequenced group of effects bound to a midi note. Both programs are go to for my live performances.
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I've skimmed through this thread, and I have a couple questions: 1) I got drunk last week and started tinkering around in FL (I know, I know). I don't really want to make full-length songs per se (it would be nice, but being a basement producer isn't my highest aspiration). I just like goofing off and making loops and samples that sound good. Am I alone in this? What are some free VSTs that make some spacy, otherworldly or otherwise unique sounds? 2) While the songs are retarded on a lyrical level, I'm really attracted to the soft ethereal bass(?) hits in songs like This Is Why I'm Hot or Day 'N' Nite. How can I achieve this and tinker with it in FL? 3) Is there a piece of software, preferably free, that's maybe not as exhaustive as a full-fledged suite but offers me the opportunity to craft simple beats and modify them in real-time, essentially something that would allow me to create my own evolving techno mix? I'm sorry if these questions don't quite live up to the professional pitch of the thread, but I really am enjoying learning about this poo poo, and maybe someday my drunk-time hobby could become something more.
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The chords reminded me of a turtle for some reason, and I just saw Alice and Wonderland, so here ya go: http://soundcloud.com/lowbo/mock-turtle I am really loving proud of this song. I think it's by far the best thing I've ever made.
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Merkin Muffley posted:so i decided this afternoon that i really like bass That bass is awesome as hell. I liked the intro too, but I think the lead synth should sound a bit less... raw for lack of a better word. It's just a bit too piercing and I feel it detracts from the bass a bit too much. The composition is sweet though, I love the arpeggios.
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Well, I purchased a book on music theory and song-writin'. Got partway through the first couple chapters -- pretty informative -- and then crafted an ambient beat my wife described as creepy. Oh well...it'll come together soon.
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bad movie knight posted:What are some free VSTs that make some spacy, otherworldly or otherwise unique sounds? Crystal is pretty good at doing evolving soundscape-y stuff. Sun Ra is fun for just dialing up different ambient noises.
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h_double posted:Crystal is pretty good at doing evolving soundscape-y stuff.
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Merkin Muffley posted:so i decided this afternoon that i really like bass This is such a useless question... but how did you make bass like that? I guess what I mean is what did you start with and how much did you do to it to get the end result.
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bad movie knight posted:Thanks, I'll give those a whirl tonight! Tweakbench Field is pretty interesting too, it's a collection of field recordings- you can just let them play as they are or go nuts with EQ and effects to make something more spacey/weird.
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Computer Jones posted:Tweakbench Field is pretty interesting too, it's a collection of field recordings- you can just let them play as they are or go nuts with EQ and effects to make something more spacey/weird. Actually, my ambient track was a single loop of four instruments, with enough randomizing effects to give it a pretty unusual, fluid and hypnotic sound. I liked it. I tried to cut an MP3 to upload as an example of my progress, but I accidentally made one that was 16 minutes long (egads!)...and then I had to go to work. If anyone's interested what a beginner with little to no music background can do with this kind of software, I'll upload it. Please be kind, but I found it encouraging, and hopefully others who are wary of dipping their toes in music production with no prior experience will find it encouraging as well. It probably wouldn't even cut the mustard for a second-rate chill compilation, but it was still vastly different from anything I'd made before. Now if I could only get away from the 808 kick... By the way, applying cracked-vinyl effects to a low-volume 808 kick produces a pretty interesting sound, and when you vocode a dampened bass through it...even better. Am I doing this right? Keanu Grieves fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Mar 20, 2010 |
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bad movie knight posted:Yeah, I was messing around with that last night. pretty much everything you manage to produce for the next 2-3 years will more than likely suck. I wish it wasnt so, but experience confirms this across the board.
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:pretty much everything you manage to produce for the next 2-3 years will more than likely suck. I wish it wasnt so, but experience confirms this across the board.
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I've got a stash of 17 music production magazines - mainly Computer Music and Music Tech, with DVDs included - that I'm considering selling through SA-Mart. Would any of you guys be interested? EDIT: Well, here they are: click here for magazines! nugget of poo fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Apr 5, 2010 |
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Mar 20, 2010 23:56
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Fearian posted:This is such a useless question... but how did you make bass like that? I guess what I mean is what did you start with and how much did you do to it to get the end result. Sounds to me like a simple square or saw waveform, played on a hella low octave with a bit of attack and release, also a gate for the stuttery bits.
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Mar 21, 2010 07:07
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brostep. needs mixing properly like heck. and probs less cliche samples  
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Mar 22, 2010 02:17
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Hi, my name is Mezzir and you might know me from such films as "I can't sing but neither can you"
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mezzir posted:Hi, my name is Mezzir and you might know me from such films as "I can't sing but neither can you" The lack of autotune was surprising. Awesome as usual.
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Two new tracks up on my Youtube page  (the first two ones in the list on the right, and neither are remixes  )http://www.youtube.com/mezzir
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bad movie knight posted:I just like goofing off and making loops and samples that sound good. Am I alone in this? quote:What are some free VSTs that make some spacy, otherworldly or otherwise unique sounds? quote:the soft ethereal bass(?) hits quote:How can I achieve this and tinker with it in FL? quote:3) Is there a piece of software, preferably free, that's maybe not as exhaustive as a full-fledged suite but offers me the opportunity to craft simple beats and modify them in real-time, essentially something that would allow me to create my own evolving techno mix? quote:I'm sorry if these questions don't quite live up to the professional pitch of the thread The best way to get up and running is - I believe - a workshop. Lots of tell, and lots of encouragement to experiment (but experiment consistently; "randomly tweaking knobs" gets you as far as randomly hitting keys and hoping a decent chord progression rolls out. Laserjet 4P fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Mar 23, 2010 |
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Yoozer posted:Ableton Live LE. Nothing comes for completely free unless you're willing to get your hands dirty with something like Jeskola Buzz or something. Or you can just use reaper.
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I do not know I should mention that until I started rendering this version I had never actually listened to the original song  edited for the more recent version with much better mixing also edited again because i deleted all of the older versions for the "final" stringless fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Mar 24, 2010 |
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Fearian posted:This is such a useless question... but how did you make bass like that? I guess what I mean is what did you start with and how much did you do to it to get the end result. its far from useless, this is the first bass sound i've made that i've been really, REALLY proud of! i used quite a few layers for the bass sound, off the top of my head i used: several saws sampled from a virus ti (some distorted a little differently from each other, and one clean), several saws from a thor in reason 4 (at least one from the analog, wavetable, and multi-oscillators), and one sine and one triangle wave for the sub bass that was sampled from somewhere i cant remember. the "performance" part is just a lot of pitch bending and midi editing, theres really nothing fancy about the stutters... there's a little bit of sidechain compression on the bass, but most of the sound comes from the pitch bending. i know its kind of a crappy description, but its late at night and i want to sleep  id be more than happy to babble on and on about it some other time though, just ask me!also, here's the almost finished version of the track  i added an outro and made a few tweaks to all the synth sounds, its still in desperate need of a proper mix and master though...
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Hey kids, I want to make music. I'd say my biggest influence would be The Presets and would love to make music along the lines of electro-house. I also dig disco and early 90s techno. Here's what I have already: * Pretty powerful computer, it can play Crysis * Audioengine 2 speakers * Plenty of space in my room I have zero experience in making music except that I really enjoy listening to it. I would also like to learn to play piano and would probably lean towards making modifications via physical knobs rather than using the mouse. My budget is $500. Where should I start? I'm a minimalist at heart so the simpler and more consolidated the set up, the better.
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