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...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
I watched them in order, which made me appreciate the ones that were a bit more out there (like Live and Let Die or You Only Live Twice), but aside from a throwaway line or two there's not really much you miss by watching them out of order.

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Yannick_B
Oct 11, 2007

twistedmentat posted:

He's a clone.

He's a Time Lord.

Binowru
Feb 15, 2007

I never set out to be weird. It was always other people who called me weird.

Nuke Goes KABOOM posted:

James Bond is just a code name.

I would hope so. What kind of spy goes around telling everyone his name?

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005

Yannick_B posted:

He's a Time Lord.

He's either a Time Lord or a Dread Pirate Roberts.

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Binowru posted:

I would hope so. What kind of spy goes around telling everyone his name?

Bond. James Bond.

Howards Bellend
Aug 25, 2007

If there was continuity in Bond he'd have to be, what, in his seventies by now? At least that...

qntm
Jun 17, 2009

Howards Bellend posted:

If there was continuity in Bond he'd have to be, what, in his seventies by now? At least that...

I actually posed a friend of mine the challenge of fitting all of the original 20 Bond movies into a single continuity short enough to fit inside the lifetime of one guy. He politely declined, though.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Howards Bellend posted:

If there was continuity in Bond he'd have to be, what, in his seventies by now? At least that...

Not to mention dying of cirrhosis/lung cancer and bedridden from all the physical activity wearing his body out prematurely. Not to mention bankrupt from paying child support to 500 random women who tracked him down after he knocked them up (unless part of the benefit of being James Bond is shooting blanks in bed)

Ytadel
Feb 20, 2006

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qntm posted:

I actually posed a friend of mine the challenge of fitting all of the original 20 Bond movies into a single continuity short enough to fit inside the lifetime of one guy. He politely declined, though.

I'm reasonably sure that the only date that actually appears onscreen is 1969 (the date of Bond's wife's death on a tombstone in For Your Eyes Only), so if you reaaaallly wanted to you could pretend that the first six movies all take place in like 1968 and 1969 and Bond was like 30 at the beginning. But there's some alluding-to-9/11 dialogue in Die Another Day about how "the world changed while you were away," so it's hard to place Die Another Day anywhere except 2002, so even with that obscene stretching at the beginning, you still have a Bond in his early 60s.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
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Ytadel posted:

I'm reasonably sure that the only date that actually appears onscreen is 1969 (the date of Bond's wife's death on a tombstone in For Your Eyes Only), so if you reaaaallly wanted to you could pretend that the first six movies all take place in like 1968 and 1969 and Bond was like 30 at the beginning. But there's some alluding-to-9/11 dialogue in Die Another Day about how "the world changed while you were away," so it's hard to place Die Another Day anywhere except 2002, so even with that obscene stretching at the beginning, you still have a Bond in his early 60s.

Don't they make it pretty clear that all the Brosnan movies are after the Cold War ended?

Jim Bont
Apr 29, 2008

You were supposed to take those out of the deck.
Yeah, in Goldeneye it's made pretty clear that the Cold War's over.

What's interesting is that (correct me if I'm wrong) throughout the entire series the Soviets are never portrayed as the villains. You have rogue generals who happen to be Russian in a couple of the films but they're acting of their own volition. With the Moore films you even had Gogol who was basically an ally.

However in the Connery films the producers didn't bat an eyelid in portraying the Chinese as behind two of the villains' plots (Goldfinger & You Only Live Twice), the latter if carried through would have ended in nuclear war.

Ytadel
Feb 20, 2006

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walkenator posted:

What's interesting is that (correct me if I'm wrong) throughout the entire series the Soviets are never portrayed as the villains. You have rogue generals who happen to be Russian in a couple of the films but they're acting of their own volition. With the Moore films you even had Gogol who was basically an ally.

In For Your Eyes Only the British and the Russians are competing to try to get the ATAC, a submarine wake tracking device, and the villains are kind of working for Gogol (he doesn't condone or endorse any of their actions, but has an agreement to buy it from them). But at the end when Gogol arrives to collect it Bond throws it off a cliff and dashes it to pieces ("That's détente, comrade. You don't have it; I don't have it.") and Gogol stops his henchman from killing Bond and instead gives an understanding smile and gets back in his copter and flies off.

And yes, as you mention, there is General Orlov in Octopussy but he's a crazy rogue so he doesn't count.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

walkenator posted:

Yeah, in Goldeneye it's made pretty clear that the Cold War's over.

What's interesting is that (correct me if I'm wrong) throughout the entire series the Soviets are never portrayed as the villains. You have rogue generals who happen to be Russian in a couple of the films but they're acting of their own volition. With the Moore films you even had Gogol who was basically an ally.

However in the Connery films the producers didn't bat an eyelid in portraying the Chinese as behind two of the villains' plots (Goldfinger & You Only Live Twice), the latter if carried through would have ended in nuclear war.

Pretty much. In most of the novels, SMERSH was the bad guys and as such, were the de facto Russian force. But I think it was Broocoli and Saltzman who decided against out-and-out using the Russians, and instead ended up expanding SPECTRE's role in the movies.

Action Andy
Feb 5, 2007

Out From Animals
where does this fit into the James Bond continuity then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwFn-VaV1NM

Tatrakrad
May 14, 2007

I cited my sources and all he said was, "owned owned owned owned owned"
Did people not like Ghost Writer enough to warrant it having its own thread?

Ytadel
Feb 20, 2006

More Action! More Excitement! More Adventure!

Tatrakrad posted:

Did people not like Ghost Writer enough to warrant it having its own thread?

I didn't like it much. None of the performances were particularly good outside of Olivia Williams, the political message was laughably heavyhanded, and the ending was bizarre.

Gyver
Jun 24, 2005

My entire life has been full of wrong choices.

Encryptic posted:

(unless part of the benefit of being James Bond is shooting blanks in bed)

He's shooting blanks because of the ball beating he received from Le Chiffre in Casino Royale.

Rake Arms
Sep 15, 2007

It's just not the same without widescreen.
Doesn't Bond actually have an illegitimate half-Japanese son?

Dr_Amazing
Apr 15, 2006

It's a long story

Tatrakrad posted:

Did people not like Ghost Writer enough to warrant it having its own thread?

Should I assume you aren't talking about the mid 90s children's show?

Satch
Mar 2, 2007

Hecho en Mexico

Dr_Amazing posted:

Should I assume you aren't talking about the mid 90s children's show?

The new Polznski picture. But they both touch children, just in different ways.

Doppelganger
Oct 11, 2002

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger

Rake Arms posted:

Doesn't Bond actually have an illegitimate half-Japanese son?
You're thinking of this man.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Rake Arms posted:

Doesn't Bond actually have an illegitimate half-Japanese son?

(If you haven't read "You Only Live Twice" or "The Man with the Golden Gun", here be spoilers)

No. That was all faked by Kissy because she wanted to keep him as her husband or something. I don't quite remember, but the kid wasn't his.

LDJohnson
Jan 17, 2004
It's my first day.

Rake Arms posted:

Doesn't Bond actually have an illegitimate half-Japanese son?

Doesn't look Japanese to me.

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Rake Arms
Sep 15, 2007

It's just not the same without widescreen.

LDJohnson posted:

Doesn't look Japanese to me.



That's his nephew :colbert:

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


LDJohnson posted:

Doesn't look Japanese to me.



Wasn't the point of the character that he was Bond's nephew? Despite the name.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
Maybe James had a brother names James as well?

Butthole Prince
Nov 19, 2004

She said that she was working for the ABC News / It was as much of the alphabet as she knew how to use.
Does anyone know AMC speeds up songs in movies?

I first noticed it the other week when they had a Forrest Gump marathon, and many of the songs (e.g. "Free Bird") were noticeably sped up.

The other day, Pulp Fiction was on and "Son of a Preacher Man" was sped up.

What's the deal with that?

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Toilet Rascal

Butthole Prince posted:

Does anyone know AMC speeds up songs in movies?

I first noticed it the other week when they had a Forrest Gump marathon, and many of the songs (e.g. "Free Bird") were noticeably sped up.

The other day, Pulp Fiction was on and "Son of a Preacher Man" was sped up.

What's the deal with that?

It's a new technique for time compression. Rather than cut off a few contiguous seconds at a specific moment, you can have a computer cut single frames from all over the place, then speed up the audio so that it still synchs up to the action.

penismightier
Dec 6, 2005

What the hell, I'll just eat some trash.

haveblue posted:

It's a new technique for time compression. Rather than cut off a few contiguous seconds at a specific moment, you can have a computer cut single frames from all over the place, then speed up the audio so that it still synchs up to the action.

HAHAHAHAHAH gently caress TV so hard.

Also, Forrest Gump is like the worst major motion picture of the 90s.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

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penismightier posted:

HAHAHAHAHAH gently caress TV so hard.

Also, Forrest Gump is like the worst major motion picture of the 90s.

That's such ridiculous hyperbole it goes past even being funny.

penismightier
Dec 6, 2005

What the hell, I'll just eat some trash.

the Bunt posted:

That's such ridiculous hyperbole it goes past even being funny.

There's a good number of movies I don't like that others do, and for the most part I can understand the appeal of them - but I legitimately cannot understand how anybody can like Forrest Gump even a little bit. I hate it as much as anything I've ever seen and, except for the soundtrack and the effects, I think it's totally without any sort of merit at all.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

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You've got to elaborate. I'm not a huge fan of the movie and think it's pretty overrated all in all but it's one movie I just never imagined someone loathing to that extent. It's worse than Titanic? Armageddon? Star Wars? The Lost World? Pretty Woman? Mrs. Doubtfire? Flintstones?

edit: I feel this way about Fight Club, actually. I hate hate hate HATE Fight Club.

the Bunt fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Mar 23, 2010

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005

the Bunt posted:

You've got to elaborate. I'm not a huge fan of the movie and think it's pretty overrated all in all but it's one movie I just never imagined someone loathing to that extent. It's worse than Titanic? Armageddon? Star Wars? The Lost World? Pretty Woman? Mrs. Doubtfire? Flintstones?

edit: I feel this way about Fight Club, actually. I hate hate hate HATE Fight Club.
What about Kazaam? or Barb Wire?

penismightier
Dec 6, 2005

What the hell, I'll just eat some trash.

the Bunt posted:

You've got to elaborate. I'm not a huge fan of the movie and think it's pretty overrated all in all but it's one movie I just never imagined someone loathing to that extent. It's worse than Titanic? Armageddon? Star Wars? The Lost World? Pretty Woman? Mrs. Doubtfire? Flintstones?

Titanic is a very good film which gets a little hokey at times, but is more than saved by the solid acting, beautiful set design, and fantastic direction of the sinking climax. I like Armageddon the way I like old Fantastic Four comics- it's a witty and decent action movie. The Lost World had Jeff Goldblum and some solid suspenseful scenes, pretty lovely overall but not unberable. Pretty Woman and Mrs. Doubtfire are not my style, but decent examples of their genres. The Flintstones had that sweet John Goodman action.

Forrest Gump is like a feature-length version of that scene in Dumb and Dumber when he makes the most annoying sound ever. Tom Hanks, who I usually like, was so terrible that I get embarrassed watching him in it. Jenny is a wasted, useless character. Bubba is pretty dull. Gary Sinise is solid.

Ninja Gamer
Nov 3, 2004

Through howling winds and pouring rain, all evil shall fear The Hurricane!
This could be a thread in itself: "Why you hate movies that others love".

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Ninja Gamer posted:

This could be a thread in itself: "Why you hate movies that others love".

"Unloving the Loved"?

Schlitzkrieg Bop
Sep 19, 2005

haveblue posted:

It's a new technique for time compression. Rather than cut off a few contiguous seconds at a specific moment, you can have a computer cut single frames from all over the place, then speed up the audio so that it still synchs up to the action.

It's not really that new. I know TBS and TNT were doing it in the mid-90s at the very least. I think it was slightly controversial back then so they added a disclaimer at the start of the film (where they normally tell you it's been edited for content, etc.) that it has been time compressed. Oddly, they also sometimes said the movie had been "Time Expanded", though I'm not sure how that works unless they just meant they stuck an assload of commercials into it. I'm pretty sure basically any TV channel that airs movies does stuff like this so that they can make the movies fit into a neat schedule. It was even fairly common on home video I think, back before DVD when there were real time constraints on VHS and laserdisc.

Schlitzkrieg Bop fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Mar 23, 2010

Sizzlechest
May 7, 2007
The Lifetime Network sometimes airs Goodfellas, but they compress all the scenes without Lorraine Bracco, so it makes it look like the movie is all about her.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole

Ninja Gamer posted:

This could be a thread in itself: "Why you hate movies that others love".

I can't count the number of times we've had that thread, or variations of it.

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...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

haveblue posted:

It's a new technique for time compression. Rather than cut off a few contiguous seconds at a specific moment, you can have a computer cut single frames from all over the place, then speed up the audio so that it still synchs up to the action.

If you use a media player like VLC player or KMPlayer on the PC these actually have this feature built-in. More than a few times I've hit a key by mistake and launched everything into Benny Hill-o-vision.

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