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I can't speak to the battery life vs. other phones but I recently bought a Razr V3c to use on pageplus (Verizon network) and unless my research has failed I think I ended up with about the best value plan around (<40 for the phone, 30/mo--they have an unlimited option for 40/mo). Either way I would suggest looking at eBay to get a phone.
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I own a Razr v3 but thanks to work have had to carry a Blackberry Curve 8320 around the last year and a half. It's chunky and clunky and crashes way too often. I've been looking at some of the newer smartphones like Droid, Nexus, Pre and Pixi. I was hoping that one of them would be able to sync consistently with Exchange 2003 but I've been reading nothing but complaints about painful workarounds to get any of them to behave. I've also read that build quality on the Palm devices is pretty bad, especially the sliding keyboard on the Pre. Exchange would be my critical app if I'm going to try to escape using this Blackberry. After that for personal choices I'd like to have navigation software but from the Palm thread it sounds like Pre and Pixi can barely run google maps without hacks to increase CPU speed. I suspect I'm looking for something that doesn't exist.
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Dick Trauma posted:I own a Razr v3 but thanks to work have had to carry a Blackberry Curve 8320 around the last year and a half. It's chunky and clunky and crashes way too often. I'm guessing you are on Verizon. The people I have helped with Palm on Exchange have found the main problem to be that it will get push on the regular inbox fine, but other folders you need to manually update (which sucks when most Exchange people have tons of folders from what I can tell). Otherwise the Palm Pre plus on Verizon actually should be decent build wise, most problems were with early Sprint models. For Android I would just research more. Someone just posted this question in Android apps thread, so check that out, i think most people pay slightly extra and use Touchdown or Moxy Mail. The Droid will do what you are looking for otherwise if you need it now, if not Nexus 1 and HTC Incredible are also good bets.
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Dick Trauma posted:I own a Razr v3 but thanks to work have had to carry a Blackberry Curve 8320 around the last year and a half. It's chunky and clunky and crashes way too often. the Plus models ATT and Verizon have worked out most of the build quality poo poo, and you get extra storage and memory as a bonus. Exchange on my Sprint Pre works great, and I even use GAO with my ISPs Google Apps account in addition to my Exchange account at work. Yeah, Google Maps sucks pretty bad on the Pre. Its outdated, and it looks like Sprint Navigation doesn't even use Google Navigation (you think they would, since they include it in their unlim data plans). I believe they just use VZNav on Verizon for the Pre Plus. I don't know if Android phones other than the Droid get to use Google Navigation. So yeah, based on that you might want to get a Droid or hold out for a snapdragon based (N1 if you can afford buying outright, Desire if not) android phone.
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Duckman2008 posted:Yeah, but VZ unlimited internet is expensive ($30 for smartphones, i guess the same for feature phones).
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A CRUNK BIRD posted:I think I've decided to stick with Verizon but just pay my parents for unlimited texts and data on my line. I'm pretty sure that works out to ten bucks cheaper than what I'd pay with sprint, and I remember reading that I can change my contract whenever, removing or adding features. But my only concern is that I'd kind of want a smartphone, so what happens if something comes up and I can no longer afford the data plan? They shut off the phone? Do they give options for a replacement or would I pay retail/have to go back to my old crappy phone? Yeah, you can't go down on the data plan, so you either put a different nonsmartphone on it, or you could suspend your acct for a month or two (usually only pay $8-10 a month) to get your finances back together. Sprint and TMobile are really good working with you on payments, not sure about Verizon.
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Country/Provider: USA / Currently on Sprint Current contract status: 2 phones, one out of contract the other expires May 2010 Budget (phone/plan): Currently spending 129.99 for both phones + TEP on both and -22% Employee discount. Looking for something lower than $90/month Features I know I want: Hard keyboard Android (I think, mostly because I want to see if google voice can save me money) ------- My wife and I want to shave money off of our monthly bill. Our cellphone bill also includes a modem, but my company reimburses me for that. When everything is coupled together, our cell phone bill is more expensive than any other utility, which is retarded. I use data, but not a lot. I have 1500 minutes but my wife and I combined rarely go over 500 minutes, and most of our calling is mobile to mobile. We do send shitloads of texts, and she uses a crapton of data. Apparently t-mobile has a 15-20% student discount, so that might be viable, but that ends up costing just about as much as what I'm paying now. I'm tempted to run revol, but I don't think they've got an android phone with a keyboard.
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Scipio posted:Country/Provider: USA / Currently on Sprint Only way i know of to get lower than that is to drop data. Sprint does not offer an option on the newer plans to have data/calling but no texting, so while GVoice is cool, it won't save you money on sprint. There also is no lesser plan than 1500 anytime minutes. So basically, for both TMobile and Sprint, what you are paying is about as low as you can go for a 2 smartphone data plan on any carrier (ATT and VZ are both usually more). Never heard of Revol, but they look a lot like old school cricket, so I would not expect an amazing Android phone and it looks like they are just city to city, which sucks.
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Anyone have any experience with a Samsung Impression? My friend is selling his for really cheap ($50), and it seems like a no-brainer to upgrade from my old rear end w810i. I'm not going to have data on the phone, i would just like something a little nicer for texting.
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dreesemonkey posted:Anyone have any experience with a Samsung Impression? My friend is selling his for really cheap ($50), and it seems like a no-brainer to upgrade from my old rear end w810i. For that price its a good buy.
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So considering my crappy dumbphone I've owned for almost 5 years now is literally falling apart, I've decided to jump on the smartphone bandwagon. I'm in Europe (Austria, specifically) and I've got a plan I'm satisfied with and want to buy a free phone (probably from Amazon, not that it matters though), so carrier / plan specifics are not an issue. Basically, I've narrowed the selection down to the following candidates: HTC Desire Motorola Milestone (Droid) HTC EVO Google Nexus One HTC HD2 Now I've pretty much ruled out the HD2 what with people saying WinMo is pretty much dead these days, though if someone can give me some good arguments to get the HD2 over any of the other phones in that list I'd be happy to hear them! As for the Android phones; So far, the Desire seems to be the phone of choice for me right now. It runs with Android 2.1 (though so do all the others, including the Milestone as of recently?), is in the medium price range and seems to do pretty much everything I want. My main questions are: What exactly does the Nexus One do that the Desire doesn't? The Nexus One is a fair bit more expensive than the Desire, doesn't have the Sense UI (and I can use the default Android UI the Nexus one has on the Desire as it is) and I've heard conflicting reports of being forced to import one from the US if I want a free one, allthough Amazon.de appears to sell it  As for the Milestone, it seems that spec-wise it's worse than the Desire (also no Sense UI), but it is cheaper by about a hundred bucks. That said, I don't really think I will need the keyboard and I'm not a big fan of moving mechancial parts on phones (I do expect to use the phone I will buy now for at least 3 or 4 years) so that's not exactly a selling point for me either. One thing I've noticed is that the Milestone, Nexus One and probably the Evo, once it's released, seem to be the most popular phones, so I figured it would probably be a good idea to go with those, if only for the sake of apps, mods, etc. HTC in particular has an insane selection of Android phones, most of which seem to have faded into oblivion when compared to the Milestone and Nexus One. I'm afraid the same might happen to the Desire. Is this a legitimate concern? Provided the Desire runs on the same version of Android as the other phones (which is the case right now, but it might not stay that way, obviously), can't I basically use anything written for the Nexus One or Milestone on the Desire aswell? And as for the EVO; The release is still a few months away and I'd really like to get a new phone within the next 2 weeks or so (mostly because I really need one what with my old one falling apart) and I'd generally rather not buy a first generation phone with new technology. Also it's probably gonna be quite a bit more expensive than the Desire. Well, sorry for the long post, but I'd really appreciate your guys opinions on this  tl;dr: - What advantages of the Milestone (Droid) or Nexus One over the Desire am I missing (are there even any?) - Is it worth waiting for the EVO if I'm considering buying a Desire or N1 and want a new phone rather sooner than later?
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I don't think you will see the HTC EVO in Europe, the phone is a Sprint exclusive in the US as a CDMA WiMax phone, so unless they make a GSM version (possible, just have not yet seen anything) you're poo poo out of luck. N1 is very similar specks wise to the EVO, so I would just recommend that.
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Duckman2008 posted:I don't think you will see the HTC EVO in Europe, the phone is a Sprint exclusive in the US as a CDMA WiMax phone, so unless they make a GSM version (possible, just have not yet seen anything) you're poo poo out of luck. Yeah, with all the hype about the EVO, I kinda overlooked the fact that it's going to be a US CDMA phone only for now  I guess that leaves me with either the N1 or the Desire. So far I'm kinda looking at the Desire because it seems to be around 200 € less than the N1 and I really haven't found anything that the N1 can do better than the Desire, other than the fact that the N1 will probably be prone to more frequent updates what with the default Android UI and that HTC might be kind of slow with regards to updating Sense. Allthough from what I gathered I could just use the default Android UI which the N1 uses with the Desire anyway; Is this correct?
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Through work I've been given the option of: - Motorola Milestone (Canada) - Blackberry Curve, possibly tour. - iPhone We use Telus as our provide. I need the phone for email, messaging and of course phone calls, as well as GPS (I do a lot of traveling). What would you do in a similar situation? I like the idea of the iPhone (I own a touch and love it), but have heard that for texting/email/calling they arent anywhere near the Blackberry.
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dodatron posted:Through work I've been given the option of: Milestone with Android all the way, get the best of both worlds.
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Burning Mustache posted:tl;dr: Get the Desire. The N1 is a very nice device, but it's not worth the price premium. The Milestone has a hardware keyboard, but an awful one at that. dodatron posted:Through work I've been given the option of: For the love of god, do not get a BlackBerry. That set aside, the iPhone and Milestone are both very good. The Milestone's keyboard is awful coming from a BlackBerry user but try to get adjusted to it. I'd get the Milestone seeing as you do have Google Maps Navigation and if you use Gmail which you should, it's very good at that too. Just remember that there are alternate keyboard input options on Android such as HTC_IME (iPhone-like keyboard) and Swype if you despise the Milestone's soft keyboard.
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I recently moved to a new apartment and I get zero reception there. Same with work. It's gotten to the point where I have to walk 2 blocks to make a phone call from either location and it's driving me crazy. (This is with an iPhone 2G which I purchased a few days after launch). While I loathe AT&T with the fury of a thousand suns, I really, really like the iPhone platform and have a lot "invested" in it in terms of apps and workflow with my music projects. Still, the overall lack of signal is getting ridiculous and starting to affect my work and personal life when I can only make calls about 20% of the time. So, a few questions: 1. Do newer models have better reception? Like, would a 3GS get actual bars? 2. Assuming the answer to my first question is "gently caress no," should I just tough it out and wait for the 4G sometime in June (probably)? I really don't want to do this, but then again I also don't want to buy a new phone so close to a likely revision. 3. Are there any comparable phones (such as the Nexus One) that can talk to iTunes (besides the Pre), or will I have to get an iPod for my music and stuff? I'm not opposed to this necessarily--I'm just curious what other people use for music on their non-Jesusphones.
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Godzilla07 posted:Get the Desire. The N1 is a very nice device, but it's not worth the price premium. The Milestone has a hardware keyboard, but an awful one at that. It will be running my work email, which is not gmail, and will be used primarily for work related activities. How does it handle normal outlook style email (and that includes syncing dates etc)? Why the massive hate on the blackberry? Im not that knowledgeable about all this, but it seems like it would be ideal for text/email/calls/bbm.
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Mandals posted:I recently moved to a new apartment and I get zero reception there. Same with work. It's gotten to the point where I have to walk 2 blocks to make a phone call from either location and it's driving me crazy. (This is with an iPhone 2G which I purchased a few days after launch). Call up the cancellation department and see if they'll give you a MicroCell for free/cheap in order to keep you as a customer.
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SamDabbers posted:Call up the cancellation department and see if they'll give you a MicroCell for free/cheap in order to keep you as a customer. Thats not a bad idea, but I'd need one for work, too, which makes it not ideal. I may give them a call though and complain abut my phone and see what they say. Maybe they'll give me a deal on a 3Gs or let me try one or something.
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dodatron posted:It will be running my work email, which is not gmail, and will be used primarily for work related activities. How does it handle normal outlook style email (and that includes syncing dates etc)? You may want to look into a 3rd party outlook app (touchdown and moxier mail are popular), but android does fairly well from the reviews i see.
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Hello all, I was looking into getting new phone + service but I am kind of a newbie when it comes to these things, getting a phone is way more complicated than I thought. Country/Provider: USA, currently on at&t, but looking to get off - to any other provider Current contract status: probably about a year left? some places offer to cover the early termination fee. Budget (phone/plan): looking to spend about 150-200/mo for 4 lines, with data plans, please let me know how feasible/impossible this is. Features I know I want: I'm looking to get smartphone(s) with android. I don't know how feasible any of this is within my asking price range, but I've heard of people cutting pretty sick deals, and I'm going to go to a t mobile store right now to explore my options with the nexus one! any help is appreciated 
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Klint posted:Hello all, I was looking into getting new phone + service but I am kind of a newbie when it comes to these things, getting a phone is way more complicated than I thought. If you can wait a little while longer, get Sprint EPRP with 4 Evos. You'll be able to get 1600 minutes, unlimited data and texts with some more goodies for all 4 lines for $135 I believe. This is what I'm doing. Google will not let you buy a subsidized N1 on a family plan, period. You would have to pay the full $529 to get the N1. Don't switch to Sprint for Android right now because the Moment and Hero are outdated, last-gen hardware.
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Country/Provider: USA/Verizon Current contract status:expires in July - according to the website I'm eligible to upgrade but it'd require 1- or 2-year contracts for any kind of discounts. Budget (phone/plan): Paying approx. $55 now for 450 min and unlimited Verizon/500 other text msgs. Would like to keep things under $100 a month. Features I know I want: I have an old-rear end Motorola W385 and I'm ready to upgrade to a smartphone. I want to text, email, use google maps, facebook, twitter, all that crap. My question is do I wait my contract out through July and go get an iPhone with AT&T or upgrade to one of the Droid phones with Verizon? The iPhone is more tempting right now mainly because Apple's interfaces seem so not-clunky and more intuitive - a friend had both phones to check them out, and while he has an Apple bias the iPhone did seem a lot simpler and fluid to use. I use iTunes for music right now, too, so that'd be nice to have. And AT&T is GSM, right? I'm planning on some traveling next year and I don't want to deal with lame intl. phone issues. Verizon - killer phone coverage for my current phone, I wouldn't have to wait to switch plans. But are the Droids as smooth and easy as the iPhones?
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I'm looking for a thin, sleek, stylish phone for verizon. I don't care about anything beyond making calls and texting, I just want something that isn't a bulky swiss-army-knife type of phone. Any recommendations?
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Kinkajou posted:I'm looking for a thin, sleek, stylish phone for verizon. I don't care about anything beyond making calls and texting, I just want something that isn't a bulky swiss-army-knife type of phone. Any recommendations? Its old at this point, but I have always been a fan of the Moto W755. No full keypad, but most full keypad phones require internet on Verizon now (lame). Also, they do have that really thin nokia (music buttons on the front), and for just calling and texting that would do the trick.
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I'm looking for something in the neighborhood of $500 give or take $50. I would like the following: -A large high-quality screen for watching videos and crap -A good quality camera preferably 8MP but willing to settle for 5 -Support for a variety of audio and video formats, not just MP4 and MP3 or whatever -Wifi and GPS -Full HTML browser and email support Things I'm uncertain about: -Not sure if I need a touchscreen -Not sure if I need a physical keyboard (slide out or something) -What kind of OS is a good choice Phones I've considered and like: Sony Xperia 2, Motorola Milestone, a crapload of Samsungs (i8910, Tocco, Jet, Innov8) and LG's (GC900, Renoir, Arena). Notably the LG's and Samsungs are priced considerably cheaper than the Sony and Motorola and the only thing they seem to lack is a physical keyboard which I'm not certain I absolutely need. Help me goons!
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Mr.48 posted:I'm looking for something in the neighborhood of $500 give or take $50. You live in the US? Nexus 1 so far is a good bet.
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Mr.48 posted:I'm looking for something in the neighborhood of $500 give or take $50. Wait for the Sprint EVO 4G this June. If you must get a phone right now, get the Nexus One.
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Mr.48 posted:I'm looking for something in the neighborhood of $500 give or take $50. Do you live in the US? It doesn't really sound like you are, but wait for the HTC Evo 4G on Sprint. If you can't wait, go with the Nexus One right now. If you're Canadian, go with the N1. It's the best device that you'll get. Android, iPhone OS and webOS are the 3 modern OSes right now. I'd go with Android. The other phones you mentioned save the Milestone are running Symbian, Windows Mobile or some dumbphone OS that sucks. Those OSes all suck. Android is going to be the big competitor to the iPhone. Symbian's touch interface is a joke and classical WM is dead.
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Godzilla07 posted:Do you live in the US? It doesn't really sound like you are, but wait for the HTC Evo 4G on Sprint. If you can't wait, go with the Nexus One right now. I'm in Canada but I'm willing to wait for the Evo 4G to become available in an unlocked form (planning to get a windmobile plan) but the question is the price, with all its awesome features it sounds like it will be priced out of my range.
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Mr.48 posted:I'm in Canada but I'm willing to wait for the Evo 4G to become available in an unlocked form (planning to get a windmobile plan) but the question is the price, with all its awesome features it sounds like it will be priced out of my range. The Evo 4G is CDMA. It won't work on Wind. If you're planning to use Wind, go for the T-Mobile US version of the Nexus One. The T-Mobile Nexus One will work on Wind 3G because they use the same bands for 3G. Don't worry about not being able to use it with Wind, it'll work fine because the N1 is an unlocked phone.
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Godzilla07 posted:The Evo 4G is CDMA. It won't work on Wind. If you're planning to use Wind, go for the T-Mobile US version of the Nexus One. The T-Mobile Nexus One will work on Wind 3G because they use the same bands for 3G. Don't worry about not being able to use it with Wind, it'll work fine because the N1 is an unlocked phone. Well I'm not dead set on Wind, but they do seem to have the highest value plans at the moment.
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Currently in the US on Verizon, roughly 6 months into my contract using a poo poo-rear end BlackBerry Storm (first gen) that I'm fed up with. At the time it seemed a good deal since it was free and I was overly willing to listen to reports of patches and the like, but I'm tired of the damned thing. I want a real smartphone with good web browsing and apps that also won't freak out if I forget to take out the battery to reset the damned thing. Anyway, being that I'm stuck with Verizon and wouldn't want to switch anyway (terrible AT&T coverage in my area), I'm pretty settled on an Android phone. I'm looking to stay in the $350-400 range and though the Droid seemed a no-brainer for me, but with the Nexus One coming soon I'm wondering if I should wait and pony up a bit extra. Basically, is the Nexus One substantially better than the Droid, and if so, how? Better enough to go 1.25 times above my desired price point? And if so, is there an exact date for Verizon rollout? edit: on a semi-related note for my own curiosity, is there any capability to sync iCal on a MacBook with Android? Does it function well enough as a media player that I'd be able to replace my iPod touch? The Illusive Man fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Apr 4, 2010 |
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Nerd Watch posted:Currently in the US on Verizon, roughly 6 months into my contract using a poo poo-rear end BlackBerry Storm (first gen) that I'm fed up with. At the time it seemed a good deal since it was free and I was overly willing to listen to reports of patches and the like, but I'm tired of the damned thing. I want a real smartphone with good web browsing and apps that also won't freak out if I forget to take out the battery to reset the damned thing. The Droid is a drat good phone. The keyboard is kinda mediocre on it, plus there are some very good software keyboards so you will be getting some extra bulk. The N1 isn't that much better to me. You can do a sync with Google Calendar and then set up iCal to sync with Google Calendar. This is what I do with my BlackBerry and will be doing when I get the Evo. Desktop sync is nice, but I can't be arsed to plug my phone into the desktop every night. The stock Android music player is garbage, but there are better third-party alternatives. It won't be as nice as your iPod touch but it'll certainly be acceptable.
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Country/Provider: USA/Verizon Current contract status: Just expired Budget: Looking to spend under $150 for a phone. I am paying way to much for what I use. I am looking to go prepaid. Probably T-mobile I usually send less then 50 texts a month and usually use less than 3 hours total talk time per month. Features I know I want: I am looking for an unlocked GSM phone with a qwerty keyboard that can also play mp3s etc. I might also be interested in suggestions for phones that will work with boost mobile ( not sure its possible to get unlocked phones for them)
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Country/Provider: Canada/Rogers Contract Status: None Budget: $300. $400 for something REALLY good. I'm looking for a new smartphone. Something with a decent screen size (preferably touch screen, but not necessarily) and a full QWERTY keyboard. My current one is Windows Mobile and I don't really have experience with any other smartphone OSes. I read about Windows 7 Phone, is that worth waiting for? Also, a decent camera would be a nice bonus, especially something with variable focus.
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Share Bear posted:Is there a phone which just does text/calls and is not a piece of garbage and works on either Tmobile or AT&T? $150 with or without contract? The Gravity 2 on TMobile seems pretty solid, my g/f has the first gravity and its solid for that stuff.
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